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[KSB2424 3,174]

Wade and Lebron are TOO similar in the way they play the game. They somewhat offset each other.

I don't disagree totally, which is why I would choose to trade Wade over Bosh. I don't think it matters all that much that Wade and Lebron are similar for 45 minutes of games. I truely think the problem the Miami Heat have had in closing games (last three minutes) is what you talk about. It's not that Lebron can't close, he's done it plenty of times before, its that there was no clear disticntion on who that should be. Wade was known as a closer and the Heat were 'his' team, so LeBron often deferred. It created a weird scenario that manifested and snowballed.

 

When Boston was winning championships,even though they had three stars, Paul Peirce was the one to have the ball in his hands for the clear out with 10 seconds left. Even though Gasol and Bynum are stars we all know Kobe is getting the ball. With Wade and Lebron there was uncertainty. From the fans, coach and the players themselves.

 

Its why I blame the coaching staff. A veteran coach would have nipped that in the bud. A Phil Jackson, Popovich, or Sloan would've set expectations and TOLD the team how end of game was going to run. Not just roll the ball out there and tell the players to figure it out.

 

I'm rambling but with having two stars of similar skills like Wade*Lebron it was imperative to have a strong veteran coach to manage that. The Heat didn't have that. So either they get a coach like that or they trade Wade. One or the other.

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I love watching Lebron and Wade fail.

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I don't disagree totally, which is why I would choose to trade Wade over Bosh. I don't think it matters all that much that Wade and Lebron are similar for 45 minutes of games. I truely think the problem the Miami Heat have had in closing games (last three minutes) is what you talk about. It's not that Lebron can't close, he's done it plenty of times before, its that there was no clear disticntion on who that should be. Wade was known as a closer and the Heat were 'his' team, so LeBron often deferred. It created a weird scenario that manifested and snowballed.

 

When Boston was winning championships,even though they had three stars, Paul Peirce was the one to have the ball in his hands for the clear out with 10 seconds left. Even though Gasol and Bynum are stars we all know Kobe is getting the ball. With Wade and Lebron there was uncertainty. From the fans, coach and the players themselves.

 

Its why I blame the coaching staff. A veteran coach would have nipped that in the bud. A Phil Jackson, Popovich, Sloan would've set expectaions and TOLD the team how end of game was going to run. Not just roll the ball out there and tell the players to figure it out.

 

I'm rambling but with having two stars of similar skills like Wade*Lebron it was imperiatve to have a strong veteran coach to manage that. The Heat didn't have that. So either they get a coach like that or they trade Wade. One or the other.

 

So you think the answer is to change coaches? How many titles do they win if they change coaches? BTW, Jerry Sloan would be a train wreck there. Not because he's not a great coach. Obviously he is. But he's a control freak. That's why he and Deron Williams didn't get along. He calls all the plays, wants execution of set plays, and if you don't do it he has a fit. Lebron and Wade are high level one on one players. Their style wouldn't fit a Jerry Sloan coached team at all.

[KSB2424 3,174]

So you think the answer is to change coaches?

A team constructed like the Miami Heat needed a veteran coach that was respected and had the balls to tell the players what to do. Spolestra is and was not that kind of coach. I have no idea how much of a difference it would make, but if the Heat lose this series changing coaches would be the fist thing I would do. The second thing would be to find a legit center to battle the Hibberts, Noahs, Chandlers, etc.

 

If a year later that didn't work, then I'd blow it up and trade Wade.

 

As a Laker fan you should see first hand the difference between a Phil Jackson and a Mike Brown. Surely.

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A team constructed like the Miami Heat needed a veteran coach that was respected and had the balls to tell the players what to do. Spolestra is and was not that kind of coach. I have no idea how much of a difference it would make, but if the Heat lose this series changing coaches would be the fist thing I would do. The second thing would be to find a legit center to battle the Hibberts, Noahs, Chandlers, etc.

 

If a year later that didn't work, then I'd blow it up and trade Wade.

 

As a Laker fan you should see first hand the difference between a Phil Jackson and a Mike Brown. Surely.

 

Phil Jackson is one of the best coaches in the history of the game. Unfair comparison. Spoelstra has been with the Heat forever. He also is regarded as one of the best young coaches in the league by people far more capable of making that determination than you or I. It's not his fault Wade couldn't throw the ball in the ocean last night. It's not his fault he's been forced to play with an inferior front line for two years. You're just looking for excuses besides the obvious one - these three players don't complement each other nearly as well as they thought they would when they decided to band together.

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Here's to hoping Smeagal remains ringless for another year in the prime of his career. Won't be satisfied until somebody rings up a 4th win against the Heat. 2-1 is nothing. Bosh out helps.

 

Honestly, Detroit was really good early in his career and had many intense series against the Cavs but I was able to keep perspective and I always liked LeBron ... until he went to Miami.

[KSB2424 3,174]

And Bosh is overrated.

Not on this team he's not. He's more valuable than Wade as the Heat are currently constructed.

 

The only person who might feel more validated than the members of the Indiana Pacers after Thursday night is none other than a player from the losing side: Chris Bosh.

 

Since joining the Miami Heat in the summer of 2010, the power forward has absorbed all sorts of harsh criticism from seemingly every corner of the basketball world.

 

He's soft! He's riding the coattails of LeBron James and Dwyane Wade! He isn't qualified to be in the Big Three!

 

And yet, what's abundantly clear now is that the Heat might not go anywhere unless Bosh rescues them from this series. Since losing Bosh during Game 1, the Heat have been outscored by 22 points in Games 2 and 3 with Bosh missing in action. The Heat's offense is in disarray and the team turmoil came to a boiling point when Wade, the face of the franchise, had to be restrained from coach Erik Spoelstra on the bench on national television. All with Bosh out of the picture, nursing an abdominal strain that could keep him out for weeks.

 

Who's riding whose coattails?

 

Unfortunately for the Heat, Bosh's potential rescue isn't likely to happen anytime soon, and there's a chance he might not return in these playoffs. What Wade's meltdown and the Heat's 19-point loss Thursday underlined was the fact that the Heat desperately miss what Bosh brings to the table.

 

As a smooth-shooting power forward, Bosh functioned as the team's stabilizer and, perhaps more importantly, the scoring buffer between Wade and James. Spoelstra has insisted over the last two seasons that Bosh, not Wade or James, is the most vital player on the Heat roster. But each time the coach made that statement, the declaration was usually met with an air of mocking skepticism.

 

Bosh, the most valuable Heat player? The guy who averaged 18.0 points and 7.9 rebounds this season after averaging 24.0 and 10.8 in 2009-10? The guy who scored over 30 points just twice this season? The guy who promised in the preseason to average 10 rebounds a game this season and couldn't even average eight?

 

Yes, that guy.

 

Though often a punch line and target of ridicule, Bosh thrives in the most important play in professional basketball, the pick-and-roll. When Bosh went down, the Heat also lost one of their greatest weapons in the halfcourt: a simple screen for James or Wade to give them space to work their magic. Bosh has been replaced by non-scorers in Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony and Ronny Turiaf, and the Heat offense has never looked so clogged.

 

Bosh is often labeled as soft because of a finesse game that includes a consistently effective mid-range jumper. Among the dozens of players with at least 100 shots from 10-15 feet this season, no one shot better than Bosh's 49.5 percent conversion rate, according to Hoopdata.com. Not Dirk Nowitzki. Not Kobe Bryant. Not Kevin Durant. No one.

 

For this reason, Bosh creates a dilemma for defenders in the pick-and-roll. Leave Bosh to wall off James' or Wade's penetration? Or shade toward Bosh and make sure the league's most sure-handed mid-range shooter doesn't get an open look?

 

Watch how Roy Hibbert and David West "guard" the Heat's big men. Or better yet, watch how they sag into the paint and ignore the Heat's big men. Watch how Wade and James settle for pull-up jumpers -- the least potent weapon in their arsenals next to heaving halfcourt shots -- because multiple bodies are anchored in their way.

 

Or just listen to Hibbert.

 

"Without [bosh] in the game, I can wander a little bit more and make the paint look a little more crowded and block more shots," Hibbert said after Thursday's rout. "When he's there, I have to respect his ability."

 

To see the Bosh effect, look no further than Wade's whopping total of two shots derived from the pick-and-roll in Game 3. According to SynergySports, Wade missed both shots after a screen and they were both as a result of Hibbert's noted lack of respect for big men in red. Wade clanked a running floater over Hibbert in the third quarter because the 7-foot-2 All-Star shifted over to Wade, ignoring Turiaf. On another possession, Wade got blocked by Hibbert after the screen because Anthony was never deemed a threat as a roll man.

 

The pick-and-roll used to be Wade's bread and butter, the vehicle he road to a title in 2006. Without Bosh, it's almost useless. The Pacers can throw two on the ball and lure Wade into rolling the dice on a jump shot. The result? Wade has shot a putrid 16 percent (4-for-25) on jumpers since Pacers coach Frank Vogel had a day to game-plan for the Heat's post-Bosh offense before Game 2.

 

James has enjoyed more success than Wade in the pick-and-roll game without Bosh, but he certainly feels the effects of Bosh's absence. Because the Heat can ill-afford to play two big men without any semblance of scoring ability, James often is forced to play power forward and exhaust himself defensively on big men. James ran around like a man possessed defensively in the first half Thursday and then, predictably, trailed off after halftime.

 

There's little evidence that Bosh's skill-set has diminished since he came to Miami, only his role. Bosh has proved that he can be the scorer we knew in Toronto if he gets the touches. Consider that in Wade's nine-game absence in January this season, Bosh averaged 26 points on 59 percent shooting. He sacrificed touches when he came to Miami and did it for the goal of winning a title.

 

Spoelstra maintains that the Heat "have enough" to replace Bosh's presence. Now, Bosh can only watch while the Heat struggle to survive without him. As we're seeing now in the case of Bosh, sometimes you don't know what you have until it's gone.

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Not on this team he's not. He's more valuable than Wade as the Heat are currently constructed.

 

WTF do you think would have happened if Bosh was healthy and Lebron or Wade was injured? They can't afford to be without any of those guys, and even with all three if two out of the three don't have big games they lose. So when you take one of them out, their margin for error goes from little to none or less than none. And this is what you get.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Weren't the Heat 4-5 during the regular season without Bosh? And now we see them struggling mightily without him in the playoffs.

 

Overrated my foot.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Weren't the Heat 4-5 during the regular season without Bosh? And now we see them struggling mightily without him in the playoffs.

 

Overrated my foot.

And the Heat were like 9-1 without Wade. But with Bosh and LeBron.

 

ETA: Actually I was wrong, it wasn't 9-1 without Wade. It was 11-1.

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WTF do you think would have happened if Bosh was healthy and Lebron or Wade was injured? They can't afford to be without any of those guys, and even with all three if two out of the three don't have big games they lose. So when you take one of them out, their margin for error goes from little to none or less than none. And this is what you get.

The Heat were 11-1 without Wade. Obviously losing any key player is bad, but if you HAD to pick a player to get injured between Wade or Bosh, I'd pick Wade. The proof is in the pudding.

 

Also if any of the top two or three players on any of these teams gets hurt it significanly reduces their chances. If Westbrook gets hurt you like them to beat the Spurs? If Parker gts hurt you like them to beat the OKC? If Peirce or KG go down how you like their chances? If Bynum bums his knee they don't make it past Denver. Whats your point?

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The Heat were 9-1 without Wade. Obviously losing any key player is bad, but if you HAD to pick a player to get injured between Wade or Bosh, I'd pick Wade. The proof is in the pudding.

 

Also if any of the top two or three players on any of these teams gets hurt it significanly reduces their chances. If Westbrook gets hurt you like them to beat the Spurs? If Parker gts hurt you like them to beat the OKC? If Peirce or KG go down how you like their chances? If Bynum bums his knee they don't make it past Denver. Whats your point?

 

You're wrong. The Lakers won a title with Bynum seriously hurt. He played but in a very limited fashion. As far as the Heat record without one of their stars goes, you can throw it out the window once the playoffs start. Playoff basketball is a different animal than the regular season.

 

I'm gonna bow out of this back and forth. You keep thinking the Heat are awesome and all they need is a coach. As a Lakers fan, I got my own team issues to worry about.

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Meh. Garnett, Peirce, Ray Allen beg to differ.

If you think that Boston team was a 'Super Team' you're on crack. Were they good? Yes, very. But one title hardly makes you a super team.

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If you think that Boston team was a 'Super Team' you're on crack. Were they good? Yes, very. But one title hardly makes you a super team.

At the time the Celtics aquired KG and Allen years ago all three players were All-Stars. All three will go into the basketball Hall of Fame one day. At the time KG was one of the best players on the planet. Paul Peirce has passed Larry Bird as the Celtics all time leading scorer in that franchises history. They are all a bit older now, but several years ago that team had a BIG 3 too.

 

Which was the point of what we were talking about.

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Without Chris Bosh, and with Dwyane Wade having the worst playoff series of his career, Lebron probably feels like he is playing in Cleveland again. Saw someone say Chalmers played the role of Mo Williams last night.

 

Saw an interesting stat on ESPN today: The Heat are 3 for 19 on UNGUARDED, CATCH AND SHOOT JUMPERS this series.

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At the time the Celtics aquired KG and Allen years ago all three players were All-Stars. All three will go into the basketball Hall of Fame one day. At the time KG was one of the best players on the planet. Paul Peirce has passed Larry Bird as the Celtics all time leading scorer in that franchises history. They are all a bit older now, but several years ago that team had a BIG 3 too.

 

Which was the point of what we were talking about.

I never once then, or after, heard anyone called that Boston team the "Dream Team" or a "Super Team".

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I love watching Lebron and Wade fail.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Saw an interesting stat on ESPN today: The Heat are 3 for 19 on UNGUARDED, CATCH AND SHOOT JUMPERS this series.

You can't talk about facts and stats like that. Or else you're just making excuses for Lebron.

 

But seriously, anybody watching has to be wondering why can't bonafide NBA players like Shane Battier cannot make a wide open jump shot. I've watched most of all the games and I literally cannot remember a shot of his that went in. Lebron drives, commands a double, kicks it out to a wide open Battier in the corner and CLANG!@#!

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wow. that's KSB's favorite player. Just wow.

[KSB2424 3,174]

This is Ghey Friday right?

 

Kobe

 

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Meh. Even without Bosh, the Heat have 2 of the 5 best players in the NBA. They don't get to blame anything on the supporting cast. When your top 3 guys make almost $60m, you'll never have a supporting cast. Dirk won a title last season without any other All Star level player on his team.

 

 

Does anyone besides Wade, Lebron and the heat really think wade is a top 5 player in the NBa?

 

i used to like the guy a lot and i don't hate him or anything but his body is wearing down, he misses a lot of games and he really doesn't change a game like he used to.

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wow. that's KSB's favorite player. Just wow.

 

thats focking hilarious. the look on David Wests face is priceless

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If you think that Boston team was a 'Super Team' you're on crack. Were they good? Yes, very. But one title hardly makes you a super team.

 

 

At the time the Celtics aquired KG and Allen years ago all three players were All-Stars. All three will go into the basketball Hall of Fame one day. At the time KG was one of the best players on the planet. Paul Peirce has passed Larry Bird as the Celtics all time leading scorer in that franchises history. They are all a bit older now, but several years ago that team had a BIG 3 too.

 

Which was the point of what we were talking about.

 

 

I never once then, or after, heard anyone called that Boston team the "Dream Team" or a "Super Team".

 

 

Boston was referred to as the Big Three when they were assembled in 2007-08. There was indeed hype. It was not to the level of the Miami Heat dream Team because again, the Celtics were assembled much differently.

 

With Miami, you had a group of stars getting together as free agents and deciding to join forces in Miami. All were still young. 26 max?

 

Boston traded for Kevin Garnett, who was 30 years old and nearing the decline portion of his career. He was 3 years removed from his MVP season. He carried Minnesota on his back for 12 seasons. Ray Allen was also acquired in trade at the age of 31 from the Sonics.

 

There was much more of a good feeling regarding Bostons big three. I think to more people it felt like gritty veterans who paid their dues being brought together for validation. With Miami its much more villainous.

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Does anyone besides Wade, Lebron and the heat really think wade is a top 5 player in the NBa?

 

i used to like the guy a lot and i don't hate him or anything but his body is wearing down, he misses a lot of games and he really doesn't change a game like he used to.

 

I'd agree he dropped out of the top 5 this season, and will likely never return.

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Weren't the Heat 4-5 during the regular season without Bosh? And now we see them struggling mightily without him in the playoffs.

 

Overrated my foot.

 

People who don't understand Bosh's importance to the Heat aren't thinking about the game, just the individuals.

 

With Bosh, the Heat have a big who is a decent defender and rebounder, and a really good pick & pop player. Opposing bigs have to respect his ability to hit the 17 footer, opening up driving lanes for James and Wade. It also allows James to focus on one-on-one defense, locking in on the best scorer on the other team. Danny Granger, who is a solid NBA scorer, looked hapless when James was able to shadow him all night. Now that LeBron takes on more responsibility as a post defender and rebounder, Granger suddenly breaks out of his funk.

 

Against an Indiana team that has good depth in the frontcourt, Bosh's absence is magnified. The Pacers come at you in waves, and Miami is now much thinner at a spot where they could ill afford to lose anyone.

 

Sure, look at the individual talents and Bosh is the lesser of the three. But on that roster, with the lack of another big who commands any attention on the offensive end, he's vital.

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Does anyone besides Wade, Lebron and the heat really think wade is a top 5 player in the NBa?

 

i used to like the guy a lot and i don't hate him or anything but his body is wearing down, he misses a lot of games and he really doesn't change a game like he used to.

 

He was a top 5 player for a brief period of time, when he was a lot younger and the league was watered down.

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He was a top 5 player for a brief period of time, when he was a lot younger and the league was watered down.

 

Dwyane Wade has been a top 5 player in the NBA since about 2005 (except for the one year he missed about 30 games). If people want to say he wasn't a top 5 player this season because he missed 17 games, that's understandable. But in the 49 games he did play, I can't think of 5 guys I'd take over Wade, and that has nothing to do with him finally showing up yesterday. To me, he's the best 2 guard in the NBA, and one of the best two way players in the NBA in general.

 

By the way, the 3rd quarter Lebron and Wade had yesterday was pretty unbelievable to watch. They were unstoppable. The problem for Miami is that they may need them both to play that well in 2 out of the last 3 games to find a way to win this series.

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Dwyane Wade has been a top 5 player in the NBA since about 2005 (except for the one year he missed about 30 games). If people want to say he wasn't a top 5 player this season because he missed 17 games, that's understandable. But in the 49 games he did play, I can't think of 5 guys I'd take over Wade, and that has nothing to do with him finally showing up yesterday. To me, he's the best 2 guard in the NBA, and one of the best two way players in the NBA in general.

 

By the way, the 3rd quarter Lebron and Wade had yesterday was pretty unbelievable to watch. They were unstoppable. The problem for Miami is that they may need them both to play that well in 2 out of the last 3 games to find a way to win this series.

Boo hoo. The team's stars got together to create a dream team. They SHOULD be winning titles. Coming in second is a failed season. Winning it all is unimpressive. Why wouldn't they? They have two of the league's top three players.

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By the way, the 3rd quarter Lebron and Wade had yesterday was pretty unbelievable to watch. They were unstoppable. The problem for Miami is that they may need them both to play that well in 2 out of the last 3 games to find a way to win this series.

The one bright spot outside of LeBron and Wade yesterday was Haslem. If anybody can feel the void on the picka nd roll/pop its Haslem as he can hit a mid range jumper. It was good to see him active. He's nowhere close to Bosh, but if he can be a poor mans Bosh in the same 'role' then Miami may get out of this series alive.

[Stewburtx8 67]

Boo hoo. The team's stars got together to create a dream team. They SHOULD be winning titles. Coming in second is a failed season. Winning it all is unimpressive. Why wouldn't they? They have two of the league's top three players.

 

 

I'm not a Miami Heat fan. I'm a Sixers fan. Could care less if the Heat win or not. But Chris Bosh is hurt, and Lebron and Wade are surrounded with the worst 4th through 10th best players of any team in the playoffs. Indiana is a much better TEAM with much more size. If Miami wins this series, it will be because both Lebron and Wade played out of their minds. They did yesterday. Can they do it for 2 out of the last 3 games? That's yet to be seen...

[KSB2424 3,174]

They have two of the league's top three players.

As much as I like Wade as a player the past year or two as he's gotten older/fragile Wade isn't as good night in and night out as Kobe, Dirk, Durant and Rose. Dwight Howard is more dominant and affects basketball games more. Chris Paul may has surpassed Wade on the list as well.

 

Wade is great, but he's inconsistent and often injured. He's in the second tier of All-Stars now. I'm just saying.

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Dwyane Wade has been a top 5 player in the NBA since about 2005 (except for the one year he missed about 30 games). If people want to say he wasn't a top 5 player this season because he missed 17 games, that's understandable. But in the 49 games he did play, I can't think of 5 guys I'd take over Wade, and that has nothing to do with him finally showing up yesterday. To me, he's the best 2 guard in the NBA, and one of the best two way players in the NBA in general.

 

By the way, the 3rd quarter Lebron and Wade had yesterday was pretty unbelievable to watch. They were unstoppable. The problem for Miami is that they may need them both to play that well in 2 out of the last 3 games to find a way to win this series.

 

If I was starting a team right now, I'd pick

 

Durant

Rise

LeBron

Howard

CP

Griffin

 

All over wade, and that's thinking of it while on the sh1tter

[NewbieJr 541]

As much as I like Wade as a player the past year or two as he's gotten older/fragile Wade isn't as good night in and night out as Kobe, Dirk, Durant. Dwight Howard is more dominant and affects basketball games more. Chris Paul may has surpassed Wade on the list as well.

 

Wade is great, but he's inconsistent and often injured. He's in the second tier of All-Stars now. I'm just saying.

Wade could still carry a team ala Kobe. I'd rank Lebron #1, followed by Durant. KObe and Wade are about even, in my opinion. Dirk and Paul are way below that upper tier. Howard has some unique qualities for a big man, but he's not the scorer Wade is. And without Lebron, Wade would score much more than he does.

[KSB2424 3,174]

If I was starting a team right now, I'd pick

 

Durant

Rise

LeBron

Howard

CP

Griffin

 

All over wade, and that's thinking of it while on the sh1tter

Accorinding to Newbie Wade is top three in the leage. Of course he doesn't watch NBA basketball but I digress. When the Heat win a big game the response is "Well you got two of the best playes!@#!" When they lose a game the response is "LeBron and Wade suck, I'd take <insert 5 players over them>.

 

They just change their stance based the current state of the series.

[KSB2424 3,174]

1. Lebron

2. Durant

3. Kobe

4. Rose

5. Dirk

6. Howard

7. CP3

8. Wade

9. Carmelo

10. Pierce/Parker/Westbrook

 

[Stewburtx8 67]

As much as I like Wade as a player the past year or two as he's gotten older/fragile Wade isn't as good night in and night out as Kobe, Dirk, Durant and Rose. Dwight Howard is more dominant and affects basketball games more. Chris Paul may has surpassed Wade on the list as well.

 

Wade is great, but he's inconsistent and often injured. He's in the second tier of All-Stars now. I'm just saying.

 

 

Kobe just had his worst season since maybe 2004-2005. He finished with the worst FG% he's had since his 2nd year in the league. He finished with some of his lowest assist and steals numbers. He turned the ball over more than he has since 2004-2005, etc. He's one of the best 10 players ever, but he didn't have a very good season for him.

 

Dirk Nowitzki just had his worst season since probably his 2nd year in the league (over 10 years ago). He's one of the best 30 players ever probably, but again, didn't have a great season for him.

 

Other than Lebron, Durant, and CP3, who submitted a very good season? Kevin Love was on his way, but then he got injured as well. This is why I'd still say Dwyane Wade is a top 5 NBA player, or at least very close to it. His scoring was down, but he was his usual very efficient self, and one of the best two way players in the NBA. Obviously, his nagging injuries are starting to become a problem though.

[NewbieJr 541]

Accorinding to Newbie Wade is top three in the leage. Of course he doesn't watch NBA basketball but I digress. When the Heat win a big game the response is "Well you got two of the best playes!@#!" When they lose a game the response is "LeBron and Wade suck, I'd take <insert 5 players over them>.

 

They just change their stance based the current state of the series.

Ok sports genius. The guy who insisted Bonds was clean. LOL

 

When the three of them colluded to try to give themselves multiple rings, Lebron was the most desired free agent on the market and Wade was number two. Bosh was probably #3. They tried to take a shortcut. REmeber the 4 rings, 5 rings, 6 rings comment? They were giggling and laughing like little school girls. They were the favorites last year and failed. And they were the favorites this year. Anyone who is actually hoping they win it probably rooted for Godzilla, Apollo Creed, and Shute.

[Stewburtx8 67]

If I was starting a team right now, I'd pick

 

Durant

Rise

LeBron

Howard

CP

Griffin

 

All over wade, and that's thinking of it while on the sh1tter

 

 

I agree with you if i was STARTING a team. All of those guys are younger than Wade. I was just talking best players RIGHT NOW. I'd have a hard time keeping Wade outside my top 6 or 7 at the worst.

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Ok sports genius. The guy who insisted Bonds was clean. LOL

 

When the three of them colluded to try to give themselves multiple rings, Lebron was the most desired free agent on the market and Wade was number two. Bosh was probably #3. They tried to take a shortcut. REmeber the 4 rings, 5 rings, 6 rings comment? They were giggling and laughing like little school girls. They were the favorites last year and failed. And they were the favorites this year. Anyone who is actually hoping they win it probably rooted for Godzilla, Apollo Creed, and Shute.

A. I never insisted Bonds was clean, I merely pointed out that he (at the time) never failed a test, and was asking why is everybody so focused on him when half the league was doing roids too? Of which after the Mitchell Report I was right. Half the damn league was juicing. You live in some black and white world where you have to take a side or something on every topic.

 

B. Wade didn't leave for Free Agency he was already on the Heat.

 

C. The 4, 5, 6 rings comment was in jest. They were laughing and having a good time with it all at a Miami Heat function when they said that. But you're right, they should have been more media savvy and realized dipshits would take them literally and make a big deal out of it.

 

D. Yes they were the favorites. Then thier second most 'important' player on the team got injured. So they went from favorites to just one of the bunch now with the Bosh injury. Injuries happen, its not an excuse but it changes everything. Just like it would if Noah, or Garnett or Hibbert or Griffin or Duncan or Westbrook got hurt.