Game of Thrones (no spoilers)

[parrot 789]

 

It's a nice day for a RED WEDDING!

 

Looking forward to this episode, but this will be one of the few times I'm sorry I've read the books!

 

 

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

 

It's a nice day for a RED WEDDING!

 

Looking forward to this episode, but this will be one of the few times I'm sorry I've read the books!

 

 

 

As much as I : wub: the show... I agree with whoever said the books are better. Therefore, I'd rather have the show spoiled, than the other way around. I think that it might have been a better OMG moment in the book.

 

[parrot 789]

 

As much as I : wub: the show... I agree with whoever said the books are better. Therefore, I'd rather have the show spoiled, than the other way around. I think that it might have been a better OMG moment in the book.

 

Yeah, I like having read the books, just sometimes wish I could have it both ways.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Been watching some season 1 episodes. It's amazing how quick that season progressed, there is definitely a lot I didn't get/noticed that I do now. I'll go through all the episodes a couple times before next season.

[Quickolas1 80]

T-minus 2 hours until the ninth episode of the season...

 

dun duh dun.

[ArnieBragg 1]

HODOR

[drobeski 3,061]

Wowsa

[Quickolas1 80]

Wowsa

 

true dat. all worried she'd be another ugly Frey and she wasn't half bad...

[TD Ryan2 316]

Ok - initial thoughts on Ep 9:

 

Great job again, the whole ep had an ominous feel throughout. Too much was going "right" - Frey was too accepting and we know that level of agreeability isn't him.

Very clever how the Hounds conversation with Arya revolved around, "are you nervous? The closer you get to what you want, the more nervous you are that it won't happen".

The dialogue was as much aimed at the viewers as it was Arya - clever.

Kinda glad Cat is out of her misery.

Knew Rob was going and the minute Bran achieved Dany status (ie no worg can do THAT) I figured Rob was dead before the episode ended.

 

So Dany's 3 men beat all those guards and sacked the city but we didn't get to see it on screen? Weak.

 

I expect the finale to be a Wrap up - this one was the finale and the "silent" end as credits rolled was another nice touch.

 

Oh? And was the baby "Eddard" in the books too or did they throw that in to ramp up the "care" quotient a bit for the finale... Errr Ep 9.

[WhiteWonder 2,766]

 

So Dany's 3 men beat all those guards and sacked the city but we didn't get to see it on screen? Weak.

 

 

actually if you listen, they say the slave guards gave up

[TD Ryan2 316]

 

actually if you listen, they say the slave guards gave up

that's still pretty unclear - they beat a handful of guards and were then over run - so, the slave guards had them outnumbered 25-1 but gave up? I realize that's what they said, but it doesn't add up based on our last images of their situation.

[Big Blue 06 195]

I fvcking hated that this was going to happen and I was kind of hoping they'd change the story somehow, though I knew they couldn't.

 

Did Lord Frey remind anyone else of emperor palpatine or was it just me?

[WhiteWonder 2,766]

that's still pretty unclear - they beat a handful of guards and were then over run - so, the slave guards had them outnumbered 25-1 but gave up? I realize that's what they said, but it doesn't add up based on our last images of their situation.

 

i suppose. but a lot of stuff doesn't "add up" in this show. my guess, based on what we know about the characters/ situations, is that the slave guards chose dany over their slave masters.

[redtodd 7]

It's a nice day for a Red Wedding. Well done.

[OldMaid 2,130]

I fvcking hated that this was going to happen and I was kind of hoping they'd change the story somehow, though I knew they couldn't.

Did Lord Frey remind anyone else of emperor palpatine or was it just me?

 

I can't stop seeing him as the groundskeeper from Hogwart's (Harry Potter)

 

 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about tonight's episode. While I agree that it was great... after 3 seasons of anticipation for this moment, it still kinda felt like a letdown. It was SO much more intense and gruesome in my head.

[Chronic Husker 85]

I can't wait til that little Willow fock is in the show next year so I can see blood spray out his throat, too.

[TD Ryan2 316]

I can't stop seeing him as the groundskeeper from Hogwart's (Harry Potter)

 

 

 

I'm not sure how I feel about tonight's episode. While I agree that it was great... after 3 seasons of anticipation for this moment, it still kinda felt like a letdown. It was SO much more intense and gruesome in my head.

It was pretty "disturbing" - the whole episode had a twisted and wrong feel to it - and when the truth is realized, you really had a feeling of WTF! I figured Rob was dead but didn't know how it would all play out - wife, baby, mother, wolf too - and Arya nearly in the mix - Westeros now thinks the Starks are gone - BranArya are now a redo of the Targaryians. And the whole naming the baby Eddard just added salt.

[Big Blue 06 195]

I don't know how to post youtube videos any more with this new format, but this made me

 

 

[The Moz 69]

I kind of agree now that he show would of been better had I of never read the books. Knowing when all the big events happen is getting old

[TD Ryan2 316]

I kind of agree now that he show would of been better had I of never read the books. Knowing when all the big events happen is getting old

HA - I WIN - I WIN I WIN I WIN I WON!

suck on it book reading Old Maid!

[OldMaid 2,130]

It was pretty "disturbing" - the whole episode had a twisted and wrong feel to it - and when the truth is realized, you really had a feeling of WTF! I figured Rob was dead but didn't know how it would all play out - wife, baby, mother, wolf too - and Arya nearly in the mix - Westeros now thinks the Starks are gone - BranArya are now a redo of the Targaryians. And the whole naming the baby Eddard just added salt.

You asked about that earlier, didn't you? The answer is: no, it didn't quite happen that way in the books. I don't know if you want me to tell you more... as I don't know what you'd consider a spoiler for the books.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Best line of the episode:

 

Gilly: You know all that from staring at marks on paper?
Samwell: Yes.
Gilly: You're like, a wizard.

[OldMaid 2,130]

HA - I WIN - I WIN I WIN I WIN I WON!

suck on it book reading Old Maid!

You know nothing, TD Ryan.

[WahooJim 4]

My family is enjoying the show much more than I am. I agree that anyone who hasn't started the books, should wait until the show's run is over, then read them about three times each. Including the merged book 3/4 reading order recommended in a particular blog linked below. The books are so fantastic that the show has no chance to live up to them.

 

http://boiledleather.com/post/24543217702/a-proposed-a-feast-for-crows-a-dance-with-dragons

[TD Ryan2 316]

You know nothing, TD Ryan.

an independent arbiter has ruled that is it better to watch the series without reading the books.

that's what I know.

 

 

You asked about that earlier, didn't you? The answer is: no, it didn't quite happen that way in the books. I don't know if you want me to tell you more... as I don't know what you'd consider a spoiler for the books.

no, don't spoil it - I'm basking in my non-reading right now. I read a recap this morning that talked about some of the differences without rooning everything.

 

You know - I kinda' understand why a King needs a bit of Joffrey in him - Walder should have had his haid spiked the minute he talked to Robb's wife in that lecherous tone.

 

And who's this Roose Bolton guy? What do we already know about him?

[Quickolas1 80]

that's still pretty unclear - they beat a handful of guards and were then over run - so, the slave guards had them outnumbered 25-1 but gave up? I realize that's what they said, but it doesn't add up based on our last images of their situation.

 

the whole Yunkai situation in the book is different. there was no back door 3 people vs all those slave guards. Yunkai's slaves were service-people. the hired soldiers were the ones guarding Yunkai.

 

if you want to get a brief synopsis here it is. it's not a surprise type of event - more schematics - so I don't think it'd ruin or spoil anything - but if you want to read the books afterwards and see the difference on your own, then obv don't look at this:

 

there were three hired armies blocking her path to Yunkai, and Naaharis and the two be-headed captains were tri-leaders of just one of the groups. she met with leaders from all three groups. after Naaharis brought her the allegiance of the Stormcrows, there was a battle but it was outside of Yunkai and the other two groups didn't put up much of a fight (cost not worth the price) as slaves start to pour out of Yunkai... and Dany's forces really mounting with her Dothraki (there's still a bunch of them but we don't see them much in the show), the Unsullied, her dragons and the Stormcrows... and a huge group of common slaves that have followed her from Astapor because there was nothing left for them there once they were freed.

 

 

Bolton is head of house Dreadfort in the North, that owes allegiance to House Stark, and their sigil is the Flayed Man.

They have been right there with Robb since he started his war of revenge - but for increased power - not Ned.

You saw when he let Jamie go at Harrenhall - Roose's number one concern was that Tywin knew he had nothing to do with Jamie.

They are opportunistic and ruthless when it comes to their enemies... and apparently not only their enemies.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Bolton is head of house Dreadfort ... You saw when he let Jamie go at Harrenhall - Roose's number one concern was that Tywin knew he had nothing to do with Jamie.

 

BAM! thank you - that's what I was trying to remember.

[OldMaid 2,130]

an independent arbiter has ruled that is it better to watch the series without reading the books.

that's what I know.

Yeah... Moz as an independent arbiter...

I still wouldn't change my stance on reading the books first. Sure, you'll have some stuff spoiled in the show, but it just gives the whole thing so much more depth. At least for me, anyway. The books are the better medium, and I for SURE wouldn't want those ruined.

 

 

 

Also, I think maybe the "you know nothing" joke might have been lost on you...

[Quickolas1 80]

the 3rd book is so good because you had the Battle of Blackwater at the end of 2 scattering Stannis and then book 3 starts off right away with the Crows vs the Re-incarnated bodies on top of the Fist of the First Men. It wasn't off-screen. And a few whitewalkers where... (not a spoiler but difference in the books, again don't look if you want to read the difference on your own):

 

Sam uses the Obsidian/Dragonglass to kill a whitewalker in that battle and escape as opposed to later on

 

 

Then Cmdr. Mormont ends his watch, then Robb and Catelyn... and you're only halfway through... in other words...

there may be more

 

books are always better. you get to envision all this with your own imagination and draw your own conclusions... as opposed to an interpretation that leaves out half the content and the struggles going on inside so many of the character's heads.

 

poor Arya.

[parrot 789]

Yeah... Moz as an independent arbiter...

I still wouldn't change my stance on reading the books first. Sure, you'll have some stuff spoiled in the show, but it just gives the whole thing so much more depth. At least for me, anyway. The books are the better medium, and I for SURE wouldn't want those ruined.

 

 

 

Also, I think maybe the "you know nothing" joke might have been lost on you...

 

Yeah, six of one, half dozen of the other. Either the books spoil the show, or the show spoils the books. I know reading that chapter was one of the most "HOLY FOCKING !!!" moments I've ever had reading a book. I wouldn't have wanted that ruined either. You can't have it both ways.

[Quickolas1 80]

I know reading that chapter was one of the most "HOLY FOCKING ######!!!" moments I've ever had reading a book.

 

yep. because it's in your head and you've related with the characters more intimately.

 

in book 4 I got queasy, put the book down and walked away for a few minutes when... SPOILER...

 

Biter was eating Brienne's face. There's NO way that'll feel the same in a quick scene on screen.

 

[TD Ryan2 316]

I do agree that the book is deeper and more intimate - I didn't read your spoiler Quickolas - but by book 4, how can anything make you queasy or shock you?

There isn't any character in this story that I don't expect horrible things to happen to - especially if they are in any way "likeable", "good", "pure" or have found "love" or "family".

 

Really, as noted- - never read all the books so this isn't spoiler - but the following would not surprise me:

 

Arya? dead. Or at best becomes some soul-less killer roaming the land vigilante style - maybe finds that faceless assasin guy and becomes one herself (i.e. the lost queen of the north)

 

Dany? dead. Dead. Ser Jorah gets jealous of Fabio and kills her and himself.

 

Snow? dead. Returns to Ygritte to explain himself and she spears him. Or maybe he too becomes a loner vigilante wandering the North.

 

Samwell? dead. Has found love with dumb-girl so clearly they're doomed - nobody is allowed to fall in love in GOT, not without severe consequences

 

Sansa? who cares, she's been a walking corpse for 2 seasons now, and I can't blame her for it.

 

Tyrion? dead. Vengeance is finally taken on the Lannisters and Tyrion gets killed. The "good guys" rejoice but the viewers are all WTF?

 

Jamie? see Tyrion - same fate.Except somehow it's Brienne of Tarth's people that kill him as Brienne is forced to watch and "side" with her people

 

Joffrey? dead. Finally someone who deserves it dies but it's a small victory considering how many favorites we've had to lose just to get this turd down.

 

Tywin/Cersei - they're fine, depsite some false sadness over Joffrey, they know he was damaged goods and move on in their powerful, deceitful ways.

[MedStudent 56]

Would love to see Arya kill Joffrey. Maybe the hound will finish her training. The dynamic between those two interests me going forward.

 

I have no clue which way Jaime will go. Maybe the hardest character to predict.

 

Jon Snow? Is he on the run from everyone now? Maybe he will be the body that Bran works through or at least the muscle for Bran.

 

Speculation makes this series great tv. Tough luck book readers!

[TD Ryan2 316]

Maybe the hound will finish her training. The dynamic between those two interests me going forward.

 

 

Speculation makes this series great tv. Tough luck book readers!

[TD Ryan2 316]

and... The Hound is another interesting character... he's every bit "on the run" and a "loner" as Arya or Snow.

There is no going back to Lannisters for him.

There is no going back to family (The Mountain, he hates).

 

Sansa and Arya have been the only "positive" things he's ever had.

[parrot 789]

I do agree that the book is deeper and more intimate - I didn't read your spoiler Quickolas - but by book 4, how can anything make you queasy or shock you?

There isn't any character in this story that I don't expect horrible things to happen to - especially if they are in any way "likeable", "good", "pure" or have found "love" or "family".

 

Really, as noted- - never read all the books so this isn't spoiler - but the following would not surprise me:

 

Arya? dead. Or at best becomes some soul-less killer roaming the land vigilante style - maybe finds that faceless assasin guy and becomes one herself (i.e. the lost queen of the north)

 

Dany? dead. Dead. Ser Jorah gets jealous of Fabio and kills her and himself.

 

Snow? dead. Returns to Ygritte to explain himself and she spears him. Or maybe he too becomes a loner vigilante wandering the North.

 

Samwell? dead. Has found love with dumb-girl so clearly they're doomed - nobody is allowed to fall in love in GOT, not without severe consequences

 

Sansa? who cares, she's been a walking corpse for 2 seasons now, and I can't blame her for it.

 

Tyrion? dead. Vengeance is finally taken on the Lannisters and Tyrion gets killed. The "good guys" rejoice but the viewers are all WTF?

 

Jamie? see Tyrion - same fate.Except somehow it's Brienne of Tarth's people that kill him as Brienne is forced to watch and "side" with her people

 

Joffrey? dead. Finally someone who deserves it dies but it's a small victory considering how many favorites we've had to lose just to get this turd down.

 

Tywin/Cersei - they're fine, depsite some false sadness over Joffrey, they know he was damaged goods and move on in their powerful, deceitful ways.

Is it a considered a spoiler if I tell you you are right with more than one of these?

[TD Ryan2 316]

Is it a considered a spoiler if I tell you you are right with more than one of these?

no - but I am disappointed then that it's "formulaic" and I mean it like this:

 

Freud was easy, just make anything/everything about sex no matter how far reaching, ta-da! great Freudian analysis.

 

Martin is like that except just figure out the most thoroughly woven series of tragic events for a "good guy" and write it.

Kill him? no, kill his unborn child, then his wife, his dog - make his mother beg, then kill him and his mother, oh... and make the mother commit murder on some innocent girl too even though she doesn't really want that on her heaven-resume.

Sound good?

nope. let's make his kid sister watch the whole thing and escape by being kidnapped by a ruthless, deformed, murdered.

 

WINNER!

[Quickolas1 80]

Speculation makes this series great tv. Tough luck book readers!

 

sillyness. don't be jealous because we get the best of both worlds

 

we got to speculate and with a more well-rounded, woven story.

we get to see it come to life and compare it to our imaginative experience.

we don't have the "wait, who is that guy?" and get to see you guys guess and be wrong more often than not.

[parrot 789]

Speculation makes this series great tv. Tough luck book readers!

 

Where the books currently stand, there are many more characters, plotlines, and unanswered questions than with the TV show, and thus far more speculation and theories. In fact, one of the main points of speculation with book readers has been completely missed by viewers of the TV show, even though it concerns events from the past.

 

The fun part about our speculation is that no one other than Martin can ruin it for us, like we could yours with just a few words.

[drobeski 3,061]

These shows would blow if i read the books