edjr 6,602 Posted May 7, 2015 The show always waters down these great warriors in a fight Pssst. it's not real. shhhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 7, 2015 Pssst. it's not real. shhhhh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 7, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 1. What a focking waste of a piece like Missandei 2. I like Stannis. He will die 3. Did that Mereen head of a family dude get lucky or what? Goes from dragon food to about to be banging Danaerys in the blink of an eye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 11, 2015 I'm starting to get annoyed that even the parts where they are sticking closely to book seem to be improvised. I miss having some of the dialog being taken straight from Martin's pages. He might be a slow writer...but what he does write is well done. I never pegged myself as one of those snotty purists... but maybe I am after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted May 11, 2015 I'm starting to get annoyed that even the parts where they are sticking closely to book seem to be improvised. I miss having some of the dialog being taken straight from Martin's pages. He might be a slow writer...but what he does write is well done. I never pegged myself as one of those snotty purists... but maybe I am after all. The thing I could never figure out is why they stick to ten eps per season. There is no way to do the books justice by rushing through them so quickly. I guess if there is too much dialog they think theat people will get bored and they will lose viewers. I just wish he would get on with the book. They don't need him for the tv show, anyone can write it. there is more than enough to pull from in the books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 so the stone men grab at Tyrion's feet and he doesn't get the disease, but Stannis' daughter gets it from a teddy bear and Ser Jorah Mormont gets it under where his shirt is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 so the stone men grab at Tyrion's feet and he doesn't get the disease, but Stannis' daughter gets it from a teddy bear and Ser Jorah Mormont gets it under where his shirt is? Well Tyrion had pants and stuff on so maybe that saved him. Or he does have it and we just don't know yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 Well Tyrion had pants and stuff on so maybe that saved him. Or he does have it and we just don't know yet Jorah said "don't let them touch you" not "don't let them touch your skin" somethin' ain't right here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 Jorah said "don't let them touch you" not "don't let them touch your skin" somethin' ain't right here Well it stands to reason that your skin has to come into contact with something infected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 Well it stands to reason that your skin has to come into contact with something infected how did the little girl get it from a teddy bear? did the stone creature lift up Jorah's shirt to touch his wrist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 how did the little girl get it from a teddy bear? did the stone creature lift up Jorah's shirt to touch his wrist? I took it as Jorah's wrist was exposed and he covered it up afterward to hide the disease. The girl rubbed the doll against her face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted May 11, 2015 This is a riveting dialogue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 I took it as Jorah's wrist was exposed and he covered it up afterward to hide the disease. The girl rubbed the doll against her face Tyrion better have someone else take his boots off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 Tyrion better have someone else take his boots off. Maybe all that time in the water washed the greyscale off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 sorry to nit pick and be that guy. GOT has been so disappointing this season I will say, when Sansa saw Reek I got some serious chills, even though I knew what she was going to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 11, 2015 The thing I could never figure out is why they stick to ten eps per season. There is no way to do the books justice by rushing through them so quickly. I guess if there is too much dialog they think theat people will get bored and they will lose viewers. I just wish he would get on with the book. They don't need him for the tv show, anyone can write it. there is more than enough to pull from in the books. I'm guessing budget has a lot to do with the number of episodes. It's a HUGE ensemble cast, with multiple locations and elaborate sets.. it must cost a fortune to produce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 I'm guessing budget has a lot to do with the number of episodes. It's a HUGE ensemble cast, with multiple locations and elaborate sets.. it must cost a fortune to produce. I always wondered about that. it's not like they sell advertising, or sell tickets. HBO can only make so much from one show. They have to keep the cost down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 It's a joke that Emilia Clarke gets paid the same as Dinklage too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 11, 2015 I always wondered about that. it's not like they sell advertising, or sell tickets. HBO can only make so much from one show. They have to keep the cost down. Their shows often have much higher budgets than network shows. They make a fock ton of money off subscriptions and derivative sales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted May 11, 2015 I always wondered about that. it's not like they sell advertising, or sell tickets. HBO can only make so much from one show. They have to keep the cost down. It's also one of the top pirated shows... Regarding greyscale... the answers you seek are coming. I'm sure in the upcoming episodes more will be explained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 Their shows often have much higher budgets than network shows. They make a fock ton of money off subscriptions and derivative sales network shows maybe, not movies though. Not many network shows need CGI and all that expensive sh1t. Think of friends. They were paying those 6 focks 1 million per episode. All they needed was an apartment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted May 11, 2015 The profit margin on the Simpsons has to be through the roof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 11, 2015 I'm guessing budget has a lot to do with the number of episodes. It's a HUGE ensemble cast, with multiple locations and elaborate sets.. it must cost a fortune to produce. I don't feel like they are really "rushing through" them anyway. lf there is a problem right now, I think most people would say that there is not enough happening, rather than too much. People have come to expect big moments from this show and right now it's lagging between big moments. More episodes would only exacerbate that lag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 11, 2015 5.05 Kill The Boy No Arya, no Dorne, no King’s Landing. I’m good with that. Bork Lesnar and Podrick pass along a message to Sansa that if she is trouble, light a candle, one if by land, two if by sea. Ramsay has a nice looking broad that isn’t giving up her dream of moving up in the world without a fight. Especially since American Idol got cancelled and her options have shrunk. The wh0re introduces Sansa to Reek in the kennels, who is roughly 254 days into this episode of Naked and Afraid. In the most uncomfortable dinner scene since Athony Hopkins and Ray Liotta in Hannibal, Ramsey focks around with Reek. It was lovely to watch the former Theon apologize for murdering the Bran and Rickon Stark even though both are alive, Sansa being the only one in the room that was unaware of it, Sansa felt bad for the guy who “killed” her younger brothers. A whole kettle full of crazy. Yeah, he’s the walking dead. But don’t let Reek off the hook. He was a douchfock when he stormed Winterfell for that brief moment. Roose is going to be a father as his misshaped, bulbous wife is with child. Ramsey actually questions how his father found her wet spot. A little later, Roose does his version of the Stannis speech from last week to his child, but didn’t get a hug in return. Ramsey feels his usefulness and legacy are being threatened with a potential new heir, so Susan Boyle has become a candidate for a ride down a castle-long flight of stairs. Varys kept a network of gossipers, which I suppose Maester Aemon may have been a part of since he is getting fresh updates about the Dumb Fock of Dragons. He talks of how sad it must be to be a Targaryen alone in the world, just as Jon Snow comes into the room. Rather bold foreshadowing, as there really is no choice but acknowledge the reveal of Snow is the offspring of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, and may have a claim to the throne. I don’t know how the claims work, other than somebody yells “Claim!!” It’s been a flurry of bluntness of hints the past couple of weeks and all the talk about past events. Aemon councils Jon with “kill the boy and let the man grow”. I check the channel to make sure this isn’t Criminal Minds nor the rebooted To Catch A Predator. Jon cuts a deal with the tallest ginger in the world for an alliance with the Wildings. Jon cuts a deal with Stannis for boats, and then ramrods the whole project past the Nights Watch. Now THAT is a politician. Sam’s character has undergone quite a growth, from useless to a guy that Stannis is wringing for invaluable information about white walkers and dragon glass. The army of Stannis moves out. Grey Worm is alive. Total cop out. Missandei makes out with the guy that is missing man junk . Why bother? Drooling cripple Stephen Hawking has a bunch of kids, so there are definitely sickos out there, I suppose. The Dumb Fock of Dragons rounds up the important people in town and marches them to be eaten by dragons. One guy is immolated while Hizadr practically confesses that he is involved with the Sons of the Harpy. All men must die. Upon Missandei’s advice, Anna Nicole Smith decides she’s smaht all of the sudden and can make her own decisions. After spending a day and a half trying to lick her nose with her tongue and mouth washing pennies, Dumbnerys comes up the stupid fock idea of releasing Hizadr and promising to marry him. How did this storyline become such a wreck so fast? The Skipper and Gilligan take a three hour tour through the ruin of Valyria. Sucks to be going through alcohol withdraw. As they gaze obliviously on a runaway dragon overhead, they are ambushed by lizard ninjas dropping from the sky. I can’t begin to express my disgust as to what Jorah was thinking with this shortcut into a narrow passageway of water surrounded by cliffs with plenty of hiding spots. Safer than pirates? What did Jorah do prior to meeting the Dumb Fock of Dragons? Serve as a guide guaranteeing that he will lead you into a trap? I didn’t have to rewind to spot the stone men. As the dragon was flying around, I was looking at it as a distraction point. Sure enough, there were 4 grey men hiding in plain sight. So, this disease that turned Stannis’s daughter into a lizard, it was conveyed by an infected toy. Jorah stays don’t touch them. The rules of Fight Club are straightforward. These rules are not. As the dwarf is pulled to the depths by the a really ugly mermaid, next we see The Dink and Jorah on a beach, no sign of the boat, no sign of the river by just open sea…were was the continuity? Why did they abandon the boat? Jorah now has the disease. He and Ashy Larry can go on a world dice shooting tour. Does Tyrion have it, as he was pulled under by hands? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 11, 2015 Nice job PB. I normally don't read., actually never had read an entire one of your soliloquies, but this one I read the entire thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted May 11, 2015 I don't think she's marrying him. I think she's playing him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 12, 2015 Greyscale is like any highly contagious disease in that some people are more vulnerable than others. Even though Greyscale is like Leprosy on acid and steroids, if you come in contact with a stoneman, you are not necessarily guaranteed to contract the disease. Plus some people have Greyscale for years without knowing it, and in others it spreads like wildfire. Tyrion could have it and it will just very slowly spread. Even in the books we are not sure. Greyscale is a very critical part of the show and the books. We have only seen glimpses of the it, but many theories point to this disease becoming a pandemic and essentially wiping out most of the GOT world. The show-runners and GRRM would not have made very loud hints towards this disease being a serious problem if only one main character contracts it. BTW, I guess I am in the minority who think the showrunners are doing a fantastic job this season. I think they swung and missed a lot last season, but they are killing it this season. The reason the show seems sluggish is simply because we are in a sluggish point of the story. Everything is kind of slowly but surely setting up for the end-game. The whole season is likely setting up for the "Wars to Come" for next season. There should be several climatic moments later in the season, per usual, but now you know what it was like to slug through book 4 and the first half of book 5. However, I think the show is quite a bit more interesting than the books at this point. Again, he show-runners are doing a great job at making a rather slow stretch in the books interesting and fun to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 12, 2015 I don't think she's marrying him. I think she's playing him This is my one little quibble about this episode. She just, kind of, randomly decided to ask this dude to marry him. It is a more drawn out and believable process in the books. Essentially he keeps asking and asking, and finally in order to make peace she just says "Fock it". Yeah, Dany in Meerreen is bad, but it's necessary to see how she has to fail and fail and struggle to learn how to be a ruler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted May 12, 2015 The queen of dragons is marrying young Lionel Richie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 12, 2015 The queen of dragons is marrying young Lionel Richie. Hopefully, there won't be a Nichole Richie on the show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 12, 2015 I think Stannis Baratheon and Roose Bolton look very similar to me. I think they need to make them look more distinct from one another. I don't confuse them, but they just kind of blend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 12, 2015 I think Stannis Baratheon and Roose Bolton look very similar to me. I think they need to make them look more distinct from one another. I don't confuse them, but they just kind of blend. Yeah, well you all look that same to us too. I'm kidding peenie. Kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, well you all look that same to us too. I'm kidding peenie. Kidding. Am I just old? Don't you think they have similar story lines even? They both don't seem particularly fond of their wives or their children. Didn't Bolton give the same speech to his son that Stannis gave to his daughter last week? They are basically the same person in two different bodies....but with different story lines. Of course the Bolton dude is a wacko but if you eliminate that trait, they're the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 12, 2015 Am I just old? Don't you think they have similar story lines even? They both don't seem particularly fond of their wives or their children. Didn't Bolton give the same speech to his son that Stannis gave to his daughter last week? They are basically the same person in two different bodies....but with different story lines. Of course the Bolton dude is a wacko but if you eliminate that trait, they're the same. I guess they are kinda similar in those ways. They actually couldn't be more different though. Stannis is honorable to a fault, that's why he won't win. Honor gets you nowhere in GRRM's world. Bolton, on the other hand, has no honor. Who knows how far he might go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, well you all look that same to us too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted May 12, 2015 I think Stannis Baratheon and Roose Bolton look very similar to me. I think they need to make them look more distinct from one another. I don't confuse them, but they just kind of blend. I thought the very same thing this past episode. I know who each are, as I am a nerd of the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted May 12, 2015 Am I just old? Don't you think they have similar story lines even? They both don't seem particularly fond of their wives or their children. Didn't Bolton give the same speech to his son that Stannis gave to his daughter last week? They are basically the same person in two different bodies....but with different story lines. Of course the Bolton dude is a wacko but if you eliminate that trait, they're the same. I think of Bolton as the evil twin and Stannis as the good twin. Although they are kinda making even Bolton look sympathetic. Dude got stuck with a psychopathic son who he can't control, and who is probably going to consolidate power around his hapless father. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 12, 2015 I guess they are kinda similar in those ways. They actually couldn't be more different though. Stannis is honorable to a fault, that's why he won't win. Honor gets you nowhere in GRRM's world. Bolton, on the other hand, has no honor. Who knows how far he might go. I am trying to think if they have a similar look in the books. I think Stannis was suppose to be kind of an imposing presence, whereas Bolton is a small, meek, unassuming looking person who is very soft spoken. I have always felt like they nailed the casting for Bolton. The dude playing Stannis is nailing his personality, though. But yeah, they do have a similar pail, pasty look to them. However, definitely completely polar opposite personalities. Not too many people like their spouses in the GOT world, people of nobility marry to forge alliances and/or money, not for love or even tang. Bolton married Walda Frey because Walder offered to give his daughter's weight in gold if he were to marry one. So Bolton picked out the fattest daughter to get the most money. Ned Stark met Catelyn Tully just a few days before their wedding. Look no further than Rob Stark to see what happens when you marry who you want to marry. Like with what Dany is doing right now, she is marrying to greatly strengthen her position in Meereen and make peace with the great families. This is not a great show to watch if you are searching for fairytale love stories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites