Face Down in the Pavement 0 Posted August 21, 2011 Timmie Touchdown is heading down the Ryan Leaf road I'm afraid. As much as I like the guy, Orton is looking good and Quinn will likely come in tonight as the No. 2 playing pretty well. Wouldn't it be best for Tebow to at least consider switching to RB or Safety to minimize the distraction? I hope I'm wrong, but would appreciate your opinions, aside from what you've heard from ESPN, etc.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 988 Posted August 21, 2011 His 2nd year hasn't even started. He looked good as a starter as a rookie and he's a project QB. Future is still bright, not sure it will be with the Broncos, but still could be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 21, 2011 Safety? That's pure ignorance. Give the guy some time, it's the second week of his second season...... "it's a game where you JUMP to different conclusions" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agame 2 Posted August 21, 2011 Boy...I would hate if YOU were MY coach. Talk about not allowing any time for development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted August 21, 2011 CFL Colorado Football League? John 3-16 - - pray for my future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 21, 2011 So far Tebow has shown more as a QB than Elway et al have shown as evaluators/developers of talent. I wouldn't be so quick to write off his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted August 21, 2011 Timmie Touchdown is heading down the Ryan Leaf road I'm afraid. As much as I like the guy, Orton is looking good and Quinn will likely come in tonight as the No. 2 playing pretty well. Wouldn't it be best for Tebow to at least consider switching to RB or Safety to minimize the distraction? I hope I'm wrong, but would appreciate your opinions, aside from what you've heard from ESPN, etc.... did you come up with your username before or after this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted August 21, 2011 ESPN said a couple weeks ago that he might be the 3rd string QB and i posted it in one of the 100 Tebow threads and someone said no way in hell or something to that effect. He looks awful right now and alot of fans love him. They would probably change that if he played. Tim Tebow expressed some frustration Thursday regarding his current backup role.Tebow clearly thought the Kyle Orton trade was going down, just like everyone else. "My dream, since I was a young boy, of being a starting quarterback in the NFL seemed to be coming true," Tebow said. "Then, I felt like it was grabbed back away." Tebow admitted that the rapid change in plans may have affected him on the practice field. Now he's miles behind Orton, the clear starter. Source: Denver Post Aug 5, 9:32 AM Tim Tebow is saying his Thursday comments that the Broncos' quarterback job was "grabbed back away" from him were misinterpreted.''I don't feel like anything was taken away from me and I don't want anything given,'' he said. ''I want to work for anything I get, that's for sure. And I've always been like that.'' A predictable backtrack from Tebow, though it's unlikely the Broncos were ever all that bothered by his comments in the first place. Source: Associated Press Aug 6, 1:32 PM Tebow turned in a mixed performance after Cowboys preseason analyst Babe Laufenberg called him the most inaccurate QB he's ever seen in warmups, "throwing against air." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Face Down in the Pavement 0 Posted August 21, 2011 did you come up with your username before or after this thread? Hilarious, that was a good one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 21, 2011 ESPN said a couple weeks ago that he might be the 3rd string QB and i posted it in one of the 100 Tebow threads and someone said no way in hell or something to that effect. He looks awful right now and alot of fans love him. They would probably change that if he played. Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicewolf64 0 Posted August 22, 2011 Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating stats alone dont show decision making. everything i've heard on espn, his decision making has been terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted August 22, 2011 Cheer up Timmie, God doesn't close a door without opening a window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted August 22, 2011 stats alone dont show decision making. everything i've heard on espn, his decision making has been terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runningriot1966 6 Posted August 22, 2011 Everytime he has been given a chance he has looked pretty good. Problem is that Kyle Orton is a pretty darn good qb also. Denver should trade him to a team that needs a qb and cover some weakness that they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutdown 40 Posted August 22, 2011 Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating Joey Harrington used to put up those stat lines in preseason as well by constantly checking down to backs and TE's against preseason defenses. Admittedly I haven't seen him play much and he seems to be one of those guys that just gets it done in games, but I don't think coaches like their QB having to improvise on every play to make something happen. They want to see their QB be able to execute plays as they are drawn up for the most part. Hard to judge him after missing the offseason, because from what I understand he desperately needs to work on reading defenses and developing a consistent throwing motion but he seems to be a 2-3 year project at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted August 22, 2011 So far Tebow has shown more as a QB than Elway et al have shown as evaluators/developers of talent. I wouldn't be so quick to write off his career. What? Huh? The dood is a run-first QB and we know how they usually end up. Yeah, yeah, Vick - but lets see him actually win anything important. When the chips are on the table, Vick is NOT the guy you want to take the team 90 yards for the game tying TD because he wont maike it. Tebow is a COLLEGE quarterback. That means he can run around and looks good against crappy college defenses but that chit never works in the NFL. Look at Vince Young for an example of what a College QB is. Tebow isnt an NFL QB. Period. Switch him to Kicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted August 22, 2011 Who knew jt was a member of the church of tebow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted August 22, 2011 Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating Keeping throwing the ball in the dirt Timmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 519 Posted August 22, 2011 Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating Those stats are way misleading. 3 of those passes were terrible which ended drives (1 of which, had it been a decent throw would have been a touchdown instead). He had 1 interception get called back because of a penalty and took a terrible sack after holding onto the ball for approximately 1 billion seconds. I made it out to two days at training camp this year and I swear I saw him throw a ball into the dirt 8 yards in front of a receiver running a 12 yard hitch with no pressure from the D. And while that was an extreme example, he's made several throws that are mind bogglingly bad. That said, he had a touchdown called back on a penalty, threw a great deep ball last game and has all the intangibles it takes to be a quarterback in the league. Unfortunately, right now he does not have the tangibles it takes to be a quarterback in the league and he's not even close. I wouldn't rule him out in the future just because of how driven he is to succeed but I agree with an above poster who said the Broncos should trade him and help improve the team that has so many holes elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted August 22, 2011 Tebow stats this preseason 7-9, 101 yds, 113 QB rating Bottom line is Tim Tebow doesn't have the arm strength to make most NFL throws. If you roll with him as your QB, you have to limit your offense so much that it becomes woefully predictable. You know, I wish I had an NFL caliber arm too but I just don't. I've accepted that, why can't Timmie Tebow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted November 29, 2011 Due to me being out of the playoffs in all 3 of my leagues, I feel like it's time to look back at some early year posts. BUMP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blagrange 2 Posted November 29, 2011 Due to me being out of the playoffs in all 3 of my leagues, I feel like it's time to look back at some early year posts. BUMP yeah, this fun. I like the arm strength comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 29, 2011 yeah, this fun. I like the arm strength comments. Remember, it's all misleading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 29, 2011 Joey Harrington used to put up those stat lines in preseason as well by constantly checking down to backs and TE's against preseason defenses. Admittedly I haven't seen him play much and he seems to be one of those guys that just gets it done in games , but I don't think coaches like their QB having to improvise on every play to make something happen. They want to see their QB be able to execute plays as they are drawn up for the most part. Hard to judge him after missing the offseason, because from what I understand he desperately needs to work on reading defenses and developing a consistent throwing motion but he seems to be a 2-3 year project at best. Right on target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted November 30, 2011 He has the worst throwing motion in the history of the NFL. It does not work. If he was a real team player he'd realize the team would be better off with a real passing QB and he could ask to move to RB. He has no future at QB in the league. I've started him the last two weeks in fantasy. LOL. Vick hurt. Watching Tebow play QB is painful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blagrange 2 Posted November 30, 2011 He has the worst throwing motion in the history of the NFL. It does not work. If he was a real team player he'd realize the team would be better off with a real passing QB and he could ask to move to RB. He has no future at QB in the league. I've started him the last two weeks in fantasy. LOL. Vick hurt. Watching Tebow play QB is painful. Then you have not been watching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasy master 0 Posted November 30, 2011 If the Broncos win the Super Bowl with this Bible thumping Fker I swear I'll never even watch football again let alone play fantasy football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 30, 2011 If the Broncos win the Super Bowl with this Bible thumping Fker I swear I'll never even watch football again let alone play fantasy football. If the Broncos win the Super Bowl, I'm stocking up on canned goods and bottled water. The Apocalypse is upon us. You won't have to worry about watching football again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diomed1 0 Posted November 30, 2011 From a FF perspective, Tebow is an awful start. The guy is still sitting on the WW in my league and nobody will touch him. Are there people really using this guy as their starting QB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Louis Fanatic 0 Posted November 30, 2011 From a FF perspective, Tebow is an awful start. The guy is still sitting on the WW in my league and nobody will touch him. Are there people really using this guy as their starting QB? He's been a top 5 QB over the past 5 weeks in our league. How's he on the WW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 30, 2011 From a FF perspective, Tebow is an awful start. The guy is still sitting on the WW in my league and nobody will touch him. Are there people really using this guy as their starting QB? You say he is an awful start? I agree that he hasn't lit up the yardage totals as far as passing goes but if you throw in his rushing stats he does average out to be a decent start. I understand that the Vikings run defense isn't that bad but that stat is vs Rb's...Tebow adds another element. Minn will have to defend the running backs and the running Qb. Tebow has passed the ball better as of late too. He always seems to score that is for sure. I am curious to see the stats of T.Tebow vs M.Ryan who is playing @ Houston who doesn't give up a lot of yards to opposing Qb's. Tebow should have a similar or better stat line than Ryan this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 30, 2011 for what it's worth... 1 Rodgers, Aaron GB 4 116.2 29.04 2 Brees, Drew NO 3 86.9 28.98 3 Brady, Tom NE 4 105.8 26.45 4 Ryan, Matt ATL 4 95.7 23.93 5 Stafford, Matt DET 3 69.4 23.13 6 Romo, Tony DAL 4 92.3 23.06 7 Newton, Cam CAR 3 66.5 22.17 8 Rivers, Philip SD 4 86.8 21.69 9 Manning, Eli NYG 4 86.5 21.61 10 Dalton, Andy CIN 4 80.4 20.1 11 Palmer, Carson OAK 4 79.8 19.95 12 Tebow, Tim DEN 4 79.6 19.9 These are the last 4 weeks, where Tebow ranks 12th in points per game. Calling him a good start is a marginal call at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diomed1 0 Posted November 30, 2011 He's been a top 5 QB over the past 5 weeks in our league. How's he on the WW? He is not ranked that high in our scoring system, which rewards passing more than rushing. So, depending on the league, he is not a smart pick up at all, especially if you have better option on your roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted November 30, 2011 You say he is an awful start? I agree that he hasn't lit up the yardage totals as far as passing goes but if you throw in his rushing stats he does average out to be a decent start. Agreed. In the last 4 weeks Tim Tebow has 296 yds rushing. In the last 4 weeks, 11 NFL running backs have rushed for more than 296 yards. In the last 4 weeks, Tim Tebow has 2 rushing TDs. In the last 4 weeks, only 8 NFL RBs have more than 2 rushing TDs. So to me, Tebow is a borderline RB1/RB2 who also gets 10-15 passing attempts a game. The passing is just gravy. Would i rather have Rodgers or Brady? Sure. But if my options are Tebow, Freeman, or Carson Palmer (and they are), i am not afraid to roll with The Annointed One, if the matchups dictate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 30, 2011 From a FF perspective, Tebow is an awful start. The guy is still sitting on the WW in my league and nobody will touch him. Are there people really using this guy as their starting QB? What! You're in a two-team league. Right? And you may well be in third place with this kind of thinking. Look at his matchup this week. Now look at your starting QB's matchup. With just a few exceptions, it's hard to find a option that's more promising as a spot play. Unless you've got one of the Big Five, grab Mr. Tebow off the wire and plug him into your lineup this week. Caleb Hanie can probably use the time off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 30, 2011 What! You're in a two-team league. Right? And you may well be in third place with this kind of thinking. Look at his matchup this week. Now look at your starting QB's matchup. With just a few exceptions, it's hard to find a option that's more promising as a spot play. Unless you've got one of the Big Five, grab Mr. Tebow off the wire and plug him into your lineup this week. Caleb Hanie can probably use the time off. Did you even see the stats above? Tebow isn't an automatic starter, even in 12 team leagues. He's freakin 12th in pts scored in the last 4 weeks and there's no way I'm going to automatically start him over someone who ranks at the end of the top 10, maybe even with a good matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 30, 2011 If the Broncos win the Super Bowl with this Bible thumping Fker I swear I'll never even watch football again let alone play fantasy football. You're a sad, sad person. But Tim still loves you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diomed1 0 Posted November 30, 2011 What! You're in a two-team league. Right? And you may well be in third place with this kind of thinking. Look at his matchup this week. Now look at your starting QB's matchup. With just a few exceptions, it's hard to find a option that's more promising as a spot play. Unless you've got one of the Big Five, grab Mr. Tebow off the wire and plug him into your lineup this week. Caleb Hanie can probably use the time off. lol. Read my recent reply. It depends on the scoring of your league. My league rewards passing more than rushing for a QB. I am not worried about my QB situation and it's a 10 team league. Tebow is still on the wire and I don't think he will get picked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted November 30, 2011 In my league which is pretty standard scoring Tebow's scored: 25, 14, 30, 18, 16, and 17 points in his six starts. Unless you have Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, or Cam Newton on your team then Tebow can probably start for you. Or at least make you think about it. He's been rather consistent. I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. I'll tell you this much. As a Phlip Rivers owner, I'd wish I'd been starting Tebow over Rivers the past six weeks. I might have a another win under my belt from back in weeks 7 or 8 while Rivers was throwing INT's all over the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites