Does birth control really cost

[jerryskids 6,813]

lol!!

sadly, our genetics simply won't allow that.

 

Won't allow what?

[TheNewGirl 1,496]

lol!!

sadly, our genetics simply won't allow that.

 

 

Our genetics don't allow abstinence?

 

[Little Rusty 18]

Hypocrisy

 

Demanding the government stay out of your womb and bedroom while at the same time demanding that the government pay for you birth control and abortions.

And to top it off, ....the very money that comes from those who oppose those very issues.

[gocolts 300]

Won't allow what?

Evidently peenie blames her slvttyness on genetics. Somehow, I am not surprised.

[gocolts 300]

And to top it off, ....the very money that comes from those who oppose those very issues.

It's beyond belief.

[MDC 7,461]

Goddam freaking wh0res focking everybody in town except me!

[drobeski 3,061]

It cost 9 bucks at target, once again a libturd is proven to be a liar

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/07/sandra-flukes-testimony-contradicted-by-9-birth-control-at-target/

 

 

Georgetown Law School student Sandra Fluke famously testified on Feb. 23 that contraception can cost her fellow students $3,000 over three years. But less than three miles from campus is a Target retail store that sells monthly birth control pill packs to consumers whose insurance plans do not cover contraception. The cost? Just $9.

 

For law students who choose to use contraception for those three years, that would mean spending $324, CNS News reported. That’s a far cry from what Fluke testified it would cost.

[Reality 3,121]

It cost 9 bucks at target, once again a libturd is proven to be a liar

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/07/sandra-flukes-testimony-contradicted-by-9-birth-control-at-target/

 

 

Georgetown Law School student Sandra Fluke famously testified on Feb. 23 that contraception can cost her fellow students $3,000 over three years. But less than three miles from campus is a Target retail store that sells monthly birth control pill packs to consumers whose insurance plans do not cover contraception. The cost? Just $9.

 

For law students who choose to use contraception for those three years, that would mean spending $324, CNS News reported. That’s a far cry from what Fluke testified it would cost.

 

Do you ever get tired of winning?

[drobeski 3,061]

Do you ever get tired of winning?

Nahhh

[peenie 1,915]

philly wrote:

If you can't afford birth control don't have sex, you stupid motherfockers.

 

i responded that our genetics simply won't allow that.

 

Won't allow what?

 

what i meant was that our genetic make-up influences sex drive, not our finances.

the desire for sex will out weigh the desire to wait until we are financially stable.

[peenie 1,915]

But less than three miles from campus is a Target retail store that sells monthly birth control pill packs to consumers whose insurance plans do not cover contraception. The cost? Just $9.

 

For law students who choose to use contraception for those three years, that would mean spending $324, CNS News reported. That’s a far cry from what Fluke testified it would cost.

 

how many targets do you find in the ghetto??

that may be an option for that particular town, but consider rural areas and urban areas where those discounts are not available.

[phillybear 366]

philly wrote:

 

 

i responded that our genetics simply won't allow that.

 

 

 

what i meant was that our genetic make-up influences sex drive, not our finances.

the desire for sex will out weigh the desire to wait until we are financially stable.

 

peenie, that is nutty. You are advocating the legalization of rape because our desire for sex will outweigh our desire to stay out of jail. Caveman stuff.

 

Irresponsible people have sex without birth control, irresponsible people have sex when they are not financially stable. This is not an entitlement. If you can't afford to do the time of child support, don't do the crime of sex.

[phillybear 366]

peenie, that is nutty. You are advocating the legalization of rape because our desire for sex will outweigh our desire to stay out of jail. Caveman stuff.

 

Irresponsible people have sex without birth control, irresponsible people have sex when they are not financially stable. This is not an entitlement. If you can't afford to do the time of child support, don't do the crime of sex.

 

And another thing, the easy, free access to high quality pron all over the interwebs has contributed greatly to making dating less attractive and marriage nearly unpalatable to many men in today's world. That is the greatest and cheapest birth control of all.

[peenie 1,915]

peenie, that is nutty. You are advocating the legalization of rape because our desire for sex will outweigh our desire to stay out of jail. Caveman stuff.

 

Irresponsible people have sex without birth control, irresponsible people have sex when they are not financially stable. This is not an entitlement. If you can't afford to do the time of child support, don't do the crime of sex.

 

how does rape fit into this discussion?

i don't care how YOU feel about sex, i'm telling you that birth control should be available and affordable.

if we waited until everyone was financially stable to have sex, why we'd get what we're getting now, a bunch of crinkly old women waiting until their darn 40's to procreate. this is why we've got a sht load of handicapped quadruplets running all around.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

i'm telling you that birth control should be available and affordable.

 

Why? Just because you want something you can't afford?

[phillybear 366]

how does rape fit into this discussion?

i don't care how YOU feel about sex, i'm telling you that birth control should be available and affordable.

if we waited until everyone was financially stable to have sex, why we'd get what we're getting now, a bunch of crinkly old women waiting until their darn 40's to procreate. this is why we've got a sht load of handicapped quadruplets running all around.

 

Well, if we can't control our animal urges, then you can go out and rape and use genetics as an excuse. Whoo Hoo!!!

 

So, you feel that the government, i.e. the taxpayers, should pay for your personal recreational bedroom activities. Without any regulations or strings attached. O...Kay.....I think the government should give me access to play golf for free.

 

And personal responsibility be damned. It's all about having a good time and pooping out some kids that the government can pay for when they are young and the government can pay for when they are in jail or playing Xbox on their widescreens while unemployment checks are coming in like clockwork. That's selfish, I mean, really, really, really selfish.

[peenie 1,915]

Why? Just because you want something you can't afford?

 

recliner, i suggest you re-read this thread because the benefits of having affordable available birth control has already been stated, over and over.

also, i think it's terribly insulting that you go right into the conservative rhetoric that someone wants a handout.

it's disgusting.

young people who don't work should have birth control.

they don't want a handout, they don't want an unplanned pregnancy.

it is for the best of our society that birth control is inexpensive.

[peenie 1,915]

Well, if we can't control our animal urges, then you can go out and rape and use genetics as an excuse. Whoo Hoo!!!

 

So, you feel that the government, i.e. the taxpayers, should pay for your personal recreational bedroom activities. Without any regulations or strings attached. O...Kay.....I think the government should give me access to play golf for free.

 

And personal responsibility be damned. It's all about having a good time and pooping out some kids that the government can pay for when they are young and the government can pay for when they are in jail or playing Xbox on their widescreens while unemployment checks are coming in like clockwork. That's selfish, I mean, really, really, really selfish.

 

rape is not about urges or sex, it's power and control.

what it's about is NOT about is having the government pay for unwanted babies, hence providing cheap birth control.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

also, i think it's terribly insulting that you go right into the conservative rhetoric that someone wants a handout.

 

Be insulted all you want, but that is exactly what Fluke was asking for.

[DankNuggs 305]

recliner, i suggest you re-read this thread because the benefits of having affordable available birth control has already been stated, over and over.

also, i think it's terribly insulting that you go right into the conservative rhetoric that someone wants a handout.

it's disgusting.

young people who don't work should have birth control.

they don't want a handout, they don't want an unplanned pregnancy.

it is for the best of our society that birth control is inexpensive.

From a eugenics perspective this makes alot of sense, that amount of resources it takes to raise an offspring increases steadily. Reducing the number of children that parents don't put proper investment into relieves a burden from the rest of society.

 

 

It should be cheap, free it is makes sense for the insurance companies to do so... What SHOULD NOT happen is that they declare it free and mandatory, so that the insurance/drug cos can jack up the prices the gouge the taxpayers over and over again...this is the problem with healthcare, insane unchecked cost increases that just get passed down the line.

[phillybear 366]

rape is not about urges or sex, it's power and control.

what it's about is NOT about is having the government pay for unwanted babies, hence providing cheap birth control.

 

Fine. A person can want power and control and sex. But in your world, our genetics say it's OK to go ahead and rape, because sex is OK and should never have consequences and people can't control their urge to have sex. People are incapable of reason and logic and must act upon their urge to be happy. Go ahead and take heroin too, because it feels good.

 

It's about personal responsibility, not living a life of Sodom and Gomorrah. You advocate debauchery and letting innocent victims, the taxpayers, worry about the problems selfish people cause.

 

If you can't afford a kid = don't have sex. It's the easiest equation to learn. If some focking wh0re can't afford a condom, and has sex, she needs to have a basic intelligence test and psych exam to see if she should be institutionalized because she is being a danger to herself and all the people around her.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

From a eugenics perspective this makes alot of sense, that amount of resources it takes to raise an offspring increases steadily. Reducing the number of children that parents don't put proper investment into relieves a burden from the rest of society.

 

 

It should be cheap, free it is makes sense for the insurance companies to do so... What SHOULD NOT happen is that they declare it free and mandatory, so that the insurance/drug cos can jack up the prices the gouge the taxpayers over and over again...this is the problem with healthcare, insane unchecked cost increases that just get passed down the line.

 

We have a fundamental problem with healthcare that goes beyond that. The service providers are paid on you getting more care, showing up more often, staying longer. The insurance companies are trying to keep the costs of that down and limiting things.

 

However, neither side is really incented to make people well and keep them healthy.

[DankNuggs 305]

Be insulted all you want, but that is exactly what Fluke was asking for.

poor people already get the handout, so the whole preventing poor ghetto babies is somewhat moot. Its the people a step above who may have a $10 copay a month for it, or might not have it covered and have to pay $100 a month... the people paying $100 should have it included in their plan as approved medicine and pay whatever the copay their insurance dictates... Furthermore there should be a push by the industry to bring these drugs to market cheaply for the good of all parties...

 

 

People already pay for their healthcare, they shouldn't be denied reasonability because someones bosses relgious perspective is unreasonable... However people should expect to reasonably contribute for goods and services rendered... It goes both ways... both sides in this debate want their cake and to eat it to..

[DankNuggs 305]

We have a fundamental problem with healthcare that goes beyond that. The service providers are paid on you getting more care, showing up more often, staying longer. The insurance companies are trying to keep the costs of that down and limiting things.

 

However, neither side is really incented to make people well and keep them healthy.

Agreed, the core of this HC system is rotten, which is why adding bells and whistles to a rotten structure just obscures the real issues and conversations even further.

[DankNuggs 305]

The fact that HC insurance providers and drug manufacturers are more profitable industries than the financial sector slap you across the face. They are 2 of the top 5 industries in america... Adding unchecked scope to the behemoth stops nothing.

[phillybear 366]

Great civilizations have crumbled and fell when sex without consequences became the norm.

[jerryskids 6,813]

philly wrote:

 

 

i responded that our genetics simply won't allow that.

 

 

 

what i meant was that our genetic make-up influences sex drive, not our finances.

the desire for sex will out weigh the desire to wait until we are financially stable.

What if there were a way to virtually eliminate unwanted pregnancies, and all you had to do was to not have intercourse about one week out of the month? You could still do other sexual activities. And it was free. Would that be reasonable to control?

[TheNewGirl 1,496]

The fact that HC insurance providers and drug manufacturers are more profitable industries than the financial sector slap you across the face. They are 2 of the top 5 industries in america... Adding unchecked scope to the behemoth stops nothing.

 

 

America thrives on keeping our people sick and on medications.

 

If there was any profit in everyone having their own organic farms or co-ops that they got food from, the hospitals and drug companies would go out of business. If you read the 'natural approach' to just about ANY ailment out there, it includes eating healthy and exercising...from depression to heart disease.

 

IT's too bad that the govt. is also in bed with the food industry, allowing companies like Monsanto to run everything from only allowing people to buy their genetically modified seed, and putting other famrers out of business. It's really pretty sad.

[parrot 789]

 

If there was any profit in everyone having their own organic farms or co-ops that they got food from, the hospitals and drug companies would go out of business. If you read the 'natural approach' to just about ANY ailment out there, it includes eating healthy and exercising...from depression to heart disease.

 

 

It's really sad the number of people who are reliant on statins and other drugs due to problems that could largely be controlled by eating better and getting off their fat asses for an hour a day.

[penultimatestraw 473]

It cost 9 bucks at target, once again a libturd is proven to be a liar

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/07/sandra-flukes-testimony-contradicted-by-9-birth-control-at-target/

 

 

Georgetown Law School student Sandra Fluke famously testified on Feb. 23 that contraception can cost her fellow students $3,000 over three years. But less than three miles from campus is a Target retail store that sells monthly birth control pill packs to consumers whose insurance plans do not cover contraception. The cost? Just $9.

 

For law students who choose to use contraception for those three years, that would mean spending $324, CNS News reported. That’s a far cry from what Fluke testified it would cost.

So what do those slvts do if they cannot tolerate Target's flavor of the pill? Are healthcare visits to monitor tolerance to the pill and possible side effects free at Target, too?

[penultimatestraw 473]

We have a fundamental problem with healthcare that goes beyond that. The service providers are paid on you getting more care, showing up more often, staying longer. The insurance companies are trying to keep the costs of that down and limiting things.

 

However, neither side is really incented to make people well and keep them healthy.

Shouldn't the patients have incentive to stay healthy? Are you suggesting healthcare providers are keeping you sick to maximize profits?

The fact that HC insurance providers and drug manufacturers are more profitable industries than the financial sector slap you across the face. They are 2 of the top 5 industries in america... Adding unchecked scope to the behemoth stops nothing.

Fvck, why should we want to reward people for providing healthcare? Insurers may be unnecessary middlemen, but would you prefer to pay more for a good banker or researcher developing cures for disease/suffering?

 

It's really sad the number of people who are reliant on statins and other drugs due to problems that could largely be controlled by eating better and getting off their fat asses for an hour a day.

Diet and exercise can only improve lipid levels so much, though they are supposed to be tried before drugs in many cases. But the reason for failure is usually a noncompliant patient, not the healthcare provider.

 

Also, there has never been a well designed study showing clear health benefits from an organic diet.

[nikki2200 4]

So what do those slvts do if they cannot tolerate Target's flavor of the pill? Are healthcare visits to monitor tolerance to the pill and possible side effects free at Target, too?

 

I must admit I was a little confused about this. My experience is the doctor will normally give you three months worth of pills then you have to go back before you can get the prescription for the rest of them and they check to make sure there are no side effects. You don't just go to a gyno and get a prescription for a lifetime supply of BC pills. At least not the ones I've ever been to.

 

Unless maybe you still need a prescription from a doctor, but Target only charges you $9 if your insurance doesn't cover it.

[drobeski 3,061]

So what do those slvts do if they cannot tolerate Target's flavor of the pill? Are healthcare visits to monitor tolerance to the pill and possible side effects free at Target, too?

How about ....who gives a flying fock ? This should be the least of our worries ........no ?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

So what do those slvts do if they cannot tolerate Target's flavor of the pill? Are healthcare visits to monitor tolerance to the pill and possible side effects free at Target, too?

You and this slut need to learn that there is no "right" to free stuff just cuz you think you need it free.

[MDC 7,461]

Just to re-answer the original question: Yes the pill can cost $1,000 per year.

 

Hope that helps.

[penultimatestraw 473]

How about ....who gives a flying fock ? This should be the least of our worries ........no ?

Just pointing out everyone cannot get/tolerate the pill as cheaply as you suggested, ergo, the woman didn't lie about it potentially costing $1000/yr. In fact, the average cost is in that ballpark, as I posted long ago.

 

I agree it's not the most pressing issue, but it is not the least, either, when it impacts a pretty large segment of our population.

You and this slut need to learn that there is no "right" to free stuff just cuz you think you need it free.

I never said it should be free, nor did I say women have a right to have it. HTH.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

I never said it should be free, nor did I say women have a right to have it. HTH.

Good. So you agree there is no real issue, and this is just some lefty activist slut caught up in political games by Pelosi to distract lemmings from the real issues facing the country.

 

Good to know.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Good. So you agree there is no real issue, and this is just some lefty activist slut caught up in political games by Pelosi to distract lemmings from the real issues facing the country.

 

Good to know.

Ummm, I thought you didn't make assumptions about people's intention?s/thoughts?

 

The political lemmings watch FoxNews, so at least part of your statement may be true, however.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ummm, I thought you didn't make assumptions about people's intention?s/thoughts?

 

The political lemmings watch FoxNews, so at least part of your statement may be true, however.

Wait.

 

You said there is no right to contraception, and it shouldn't be free. That's the slut's whole argument.

 

Either you agree with her or you don't.

[drobeski 3,061]

Just to re-answer the original question: Yes the pill can cost $1,000 per year.

 

Hope that helps.

Or free or 108.00