Hakeem Nicks breaks foot..surgery set

[shovelheadt 72]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82951be8/article/hakeem-nicks-has-broken-bone-in-foot-surgery-set

[Vikings4ever 570]

Immediately goes to my DND list.

 

12 weeks puts him just a couple weeks ago from the regular season. If there's any setbacks, he's missing games. Not to mention if there's any lingering effects.

[jerryskids 7,195]

Twelve weeks and a screw for a 5th metatarsal sounds like a Jones fracture, which I just had the pleasure of experiencing. For me it was 6-8 weeks of no weight, then 2 weeks in a walking boot, then rehab. It should heal completely, vs. a Lis Franc which can have recurring issues. Biggest issue will be atrophy of the leg muscles, particularly the calf and muscles in the foot.

 

He might start slow for the first few weeks of the season but I would expect full strength by week 3 or so.

[420allstars 13]

FOOK!

 

I own nicks in 3 dynasty teams..

 

guess since I'm stuck with him I will just cross my fingers its only 8 weeks and he comes on strong by week 2-3ish...

[Phurfur 70]

Move Cruz up a little.

[Kent 228]

Move Cruz up a little.

 

Move him up a lot. Nicks is glass.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Story of this guy's career so far. I'd say it moves the rookie Randle up. Great opportunity for the kid.

 

Roddy, Jennings, Marshall, Welker and guys like that should be a no-brainerp picks over him due to the frequency Nicks gets hurt.

[Reality 3,134]

Officially injury prone, too bad also considering how good he is.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I'm a bit confused by this. When pins/screws are put in, the bone is strong enough to support normal weight after 3 weeks. After 6 weeks it's fully healed and at that point it becomes about strengthening the area around, waiting for pain to subside and rebuilding lost muscle tissue. Overcompensation on the other leg does happen, which is why the strengthening is so important. I'm assuming that 12 weeks is a worst-case estimate.

[sirensong 111]

I'm a bit confused by this. When pins/screws are put in, the bone is strong enough to support normal weight after 3 weeks. After 6 weeks it's fully healed and at that point it becomes about strengthening the area around, waiting for pain to subside and rebuilding lost muscle tissue. Overcompensation on the other leg does happen, which is why the strengthening is so important. I'm assuming that 12 weeks is a worst-case estimate.

 

there are other factors than simply bone integrity (the break healing). a bone is like a muscle--the less it gets worked, the less dense it becomes. Physiological stress (work) triggers osteoblastic activity, which increases bone density. this takes time. with the lack of work, the points of insertion (rough parts of the bone to which connective tissue anchors) for tendons and ligaments also atrophy, and they need to be rebuilt as well.

 

finally, the shape of the bone is significant. any deformity in the bone serves as a focus for stress, like a notch in a sword blade. a heavier bone with an irregularity is going to break more easily than a lighter bone without an irregularity, since the deformation distorts the distribution of stress.

 

your body isn't homeostatic--it is constantly adapting to your physical situation. if one part of your body falls into disuse, your regulatory system is going to take that surplus energy and distribute it to the rest of the system. net result is that the unused part is going to atrophy quickly, and it takes much longer for your body to recalibrate and rebuild what was lost.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

DND

[420allstars 13]

DND

 

DND (as your WR1)

[GreenTD 56]

This makes my decision in my keeper league much easier. AJ Green & Rob Gronkowski are no-brainers now.

[jerryskids 7,195]

I'm a bit confused by this. When pins/screws are put in, the bone is strong enough to support normal weight after 3 weeks. After 6 weeks it's fully healed and at that point it becomes about strengthening the area around, waiting for pain to subside and rebuilding lost muscle tissue. Overcompensation on the other leg does happen, which is why the strengthening is so important. I'm assuming that 12 weeks is a worst-case estimate.

It depends on the location of the break. I presumed from the timeframe that it is a Jones fracture, which is closer to the heel in a region that gets very poor blood flow. When mine happened, the doc said that if it had been an inch closer to the toe, there would have been no pin/plate and just a few weeks in a cast.

 

I'm no pro athlete, but my doc sold me on the plate (vs. normal healing) because if it doesn't heal properly, they would have to go in and rebreak the bone completely (mine was a crack, as I presume Nicks' is since it is just a screw) and the recovery would be much longer.

 

So it should heal fine, it just takes a little longer to heal and to be safe that it won't recur.

 

As a person who has had this, I don't think it is a sign of being injury prone. I did mine landing weird on the side of my foot; it is just a freak thing.

[mobb_deep 921]

As a person who has had this, I don't think it is a sign of being injury prone. I did mine landing weird on the side of my foot; it is just a freak thing.

 

Injury prone people tend to have more "freak things" happen to them. That's part of what makes the person injury prone.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

I was leaning toward keeping stafford in the 11th and graham in the 18th. Now i may be leaning back toward keeping cruz in the sixteenth instead of stafford. I have the best shot at getting the last pick this year so i have a good shot at getting stafford as my first round pick, or one of the other top 5 qbs.

 

Yeah graham and cruz it is.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I was leaning toward keeping stafford in the 11th and graham in the 18th. Now i may be leaning back toward keeping cruz in the sixteenth instead of stafford. I have the best shot at getting the last pick this year so i have a good shot at getting stafford as my first round pick, or one of the other top 5 qbs.

 

Yeah graham and cruz it is.

 

This could actually hurt Cruz a little. Opposing defenses could potentially focus on him more if Nicks is banged up. Personally I don't think it'll hurt Cruz much but I doubt it will help much either.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

This could actually hurt Cruz a little. Opposing defenses could potentially focus on him more if Nicks is banged up. Personally I don't think it'll hurt Cruz much but I doubt it will help much either.

Definitely a possibility but if you are a good receiver and especially if you have a good qb, i believe you will find a way to succeed.

[GreenTD 56]

Definitely a possibility but if you are a good receiver and especially if you have a good qb, i believe you will find a way to succeed.

 

I guess we'll get to see if Cruz is the real deal if he has to play the #1 spot right out of the gate in NY

[Giants Fan 85]

I guess we'll get to see if Cruz is the real deal if he has to play the #1 spot right out of the gate in NY

 

 

Oh, he's the real deal allright!

 

Too bad he was hurt most his rookie year. I dunno if I have ever seen anybody, adjust, like Cruz. It doesn't have to be a good throw, he finds a way to catch it. Last time a rookie WR caught 3 TDs in a preseason game? Well, his iniaitals are T and O. And Cruz, is a team player. No issues.

 

That being said ... Eli, kinda has some skills. Much like his brother, he can make anybody look good. "Make 'em go to Manningham!" ... no problem.

 

I predicted last year that Cruz would have a higher ADP than Nicks after his breakout year ... and I think this settles it. However .... Nicks is a very talented receiver, the injury is not supposed to have any lasting effects ... I wouldn't just forget about Nicks ... and now the rookie too ... we'll see. Let's watch some preseason games, and see what happens .... but Cruz .... yeah ... he's the one to have.

[polecatt 489]

I just traded him in 2 dynasty leagues this off season before this happened so I guess I dodged a bullet in a way. I hate it for him because you never know how much this could be a problem from here on out. Ahmad Bradshaw still isn't right from his foot injury. He's tough though he's played through all kinds of injuries his short career and has always been a top WR.

[GreenTD 56]

Oh, he's the real deal allright!

 

Too bad he was hurt most his rookie year. I dunno if I have ever seen anybody, adjust, like Cruz. It doesn't have to be a good throw, he finds a way to catch it. Last time a rookie WR caught 3 TDs in a preseason game? Well, his iniaitals are T and O. And Cruz, is a team player. No issues.

 

That being said ... Eli, kinda has some skills. Much like his brother, he can make anybody look good. "Make 'em go to Manningham!" ... no problem.

 

I predicted last year that Cruz would have a higher ADP than Nicks after his breakout year ... and I think this settles it. However .... Nicks is a very talented receiver, the injury is not supposed to have any lasting effects ... I wouldn't just forget about Nicks ... and now the rookie too ... we'll see. Let's watch some preseason games, and see what happens .... but Cruz .... yeah ... he's the one to have.

 

Man-crush much?

[jgcrawfish 232]

Oh, he's the real deal allright!

 

Too bad he was hurt most his rookie year. I dunno if I have ever seen anybody, adjust, like Cruz. It doesn't have to be a good throw, he finds a way to catch it. Last time a rookie WR caught 3 TDs in a preseason game? Well, his iniaitals are T and O. And Cruz, is a team player. No issues.

 

That being said ... Eli, kinda has some skills. Much like his brother, he can make anybody look good. "Make 'em go to Manningham!" ... no problem.

 

I predicted last year that Cruz would have a higher ADP than Nicks after his breakout year ... and I think this settles it. However .... Nicks is a very talented receiver, the injury is not supposed to have any lasting effects ... I wouldn't just forget about Nicks ... and now the rookie too ... we'll see. Let's watch some preseason games, and see what happens .... but Cruz .... yeah ... he's the one to have.

 

wow...are we ever honored just to have you in our board presence...oh sensei of revisionist history.

 

Cruz had the kind of year he had in part because of Nicks, and the loss of Nicks even for a short time WILL affect him. It's the same with Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace in Pittsburgh. If Wallace holdout goes extended, I'm moving Brown DOWN my draft board a bit, not UP it, because of the extra attention defenses will focus on him without the real homerun threat in the lineup. I'll have the same philosophy with Cruz.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

Oh, he's the real deal allright!

 

Too bad he was hurt most his rookie year. I dunno if I have ever seen anybody, adjust, like Cruz. It doesn't have to be a good throw, he finds a way to catch it. Last time a rookie WR caught 3 TDs in a preseason game? Well, his iniaitals are T and O. And Cruz, is a team player. No issues.

 

That being said ... Eli, kinda has some skills. Much like his brother, he can make anybody look good. "Make 'em go to Manningham!" ... no problem.

 

I predicted last year that Cruz would have a higher ADP than Nicks after his breakout year ... and I think this settles it. However .... Nicks is a very talented receiver, the injury is not supposed to have any lasting effects ... I wouldn't just forget about Nicks ... and now the rookie too ... we'll see. Let's watch some preseason games, and see what happens .... but Cruz .... yeah ... he's the one to have.

How much time did you spend searching for the thread you already posted this message in to copy paste?

[stonewall 647]

Actually, I think that this makes Nicks a great value pick....as long as he is still hobbled when pre-season and draft time arrive. Nice guy to have in your pocket down the stretch.

[Giants Fan 85]

It could be that The General doesn't want to give away too much. I mean he's a helluva secret weapon if you develop a couple guys in pre-season.

 

Coughlin is a sneaky m-fer. You can't put anything past him, within the rules. Nicks SHOULD be what Plax was and more. That was the plan.

 

Eli himself recently mentioned Dominick Hixon and Ramses Barden.

 

I gotta say, I always liked Hixon. I forgot he was on the team though. Veteran. Barden ... like Manningham, was supposed to be good but never has really been utilized.

 

I still say the steal pick .... if you want a Giant sleeper ... check out this kid:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euJG5q0yBpg

 

He's gonna have the opportunity to continue to improve. Unless he's a pre-season hero (again) ... I would expect him to get the second most carries behind Bradshaw.

[Matt Mueller 148]

It could be that The General doesn't want to give away too much. I mean he's a helluva secret weapon if you develop a couple guys in pre-season.

 

Coughlin is a sneaky m-fer. You can't put anything past him, within the rules. Nicks SHOULD be what Plax was and more. That was the plan.

 

Eli himself recently mentioned Dominick Hixon and Ramses Barden.

 

I gotta say, I always liked Hixon. I forgot he was on the team though. Veteran. Barden ... like Manningham, was supposed to be good but never has really been utilized.

 

I still say the steal pick .... if you want a Giant sleeper ... check out this kid:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euJG5q0yBpg

 

He's gonna have the opportunity to continue to improve. Unless he's a pre-season hero (again) ... I would expect him to get the second most carries behind Bradshaw.

 

You think this Scott kid and not Wilson will get the second most carries?

[420allstars 13]

You think this Scott kid and not Wilson will get the second most carries?

 

 

If scott was what GFIAP says he is why waste a high pick on Wilson?

 

Dont waste a pick on this hidden gem (scott) unless your in a 16+ team league with HUGE rosters...

[jerryskids 7,195]

It could be that The General doesn't want to give away too much. I mean he's a helluva secret weapon if you develop a couple guys in pre-season.

 

Coughlin is a sneaky m-fer. You can't put anything past him, within the rules. Nicks SHOULD be what Plax was and more. That was the plan.

 

Eli himself recently mentioned Dominick Hixon and Ramses Barden.

 

I gotta say, I always liked Hixon. I forgot he was on the team though. Veteran. Barden ... like Manningham, was supposed to be good but never has really been utilized.

 

I still say the steal pick .... if you want a Giant sleeper ... check out this kid:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euJG5q0yBpg

 

He's gonna have the opportunity to continue to improve. Unless he's a pre-season hero (again) ... I would expect him to get the second most carries behind Bradshaw.

How many years do you have to be wrong about Scott before you include him in your "miss" list?