***The Official Seattle Seahawks 2013 Offseason Thread***

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

what do the intelligent Hawks fans expect from Harvin this year, fantasy wise?

[FlaHawker 24]

what do the intelligent Hawks fans expect from Harvin this year, fantasy wise?

5000 all-purpose yards, 50 TDs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't figure it out on your own, you're a lost cause...but then again, I read your predictions from last year. Yup, you are a lost cause.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

5000 all-purpose yards, 50 TDs.

 

If you can't figure it out on your own, you're a lost cause...but then again, I read your predictions from last year. Yup, you are a lost cause.

 

i asked for intelligent Hawks fans

 

also, the fact you are the only one who fell for my 'predictions' sig is both hilarious and not surprising

[FlaHawker 24]

i asked for intelligent Hawks fans

 

also, the fact you are the only one who fell for my 'predictions' sig is both hilarious and not surprising

You're lost:

 

Losers belong here

[DrG 102]

W W

Pete Carroll has given all hawks fans the same kool aid

[FlaHawker 24]

W W

Pete Carroll has given all hawks fans the same kool aid

 

Wow, you must be the witty one in the family.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

You're lost:

 

Losers belong here

 

you're so cute when you try hard.

 

 

 

back to the ? at hand. I'm curious if the intelligent Hawks fans expect Harvin to be used in similar ways as he was in Minny. Taking some handoffs out of the backfield, some return game work... He's got to stay healthy but I would expect an uptick in production with Wilson instead of Ponder.

[phillybear 366]

Pete Carroll has given all hawks fans the same kool aid

 

What the fock? Sh!t, man, we spend more time fighting each other than fans of other teams. How exactly are we all drinking the same kool aid? I over analyze and obsess over practically every decision the front office and coaching staff makes; I'm a Negative Nancy. It's a pretty diverse collection of drunks that we have here.

 

[Chasers Dawg 9]

LOL, Ain't that the truth

[FlaHawker 24]

you're so cute when you try hard.

 

 

 

back to the ? at hand. I'm curious if the intelligent Hawks fans expect Harvin to be used in similar ways as he was in Minny. Taking some handoffs out of the backfield, some return game work... He's got to stay healthy but I would expect an uptick in production with Wilson instead of Ponder.

Gee really? You think Wilson is an upgrade from Ponder? Wow! Who wouldathunkit! Let's see how will the Hawks use Harvin? Handoffs? Um yea, duh! Return work? Um yea, duh! Does Harvin have to stay healthy for an uptick in producion? Well, yea, duh! Keep the moon landing topics coming!

[Joey Gladstone 33]

If Percy stays healthy and plays 16 games, well he already knows the offense and the OC. He's already building chemistry with Wilson.

 

I'll say 1,200 receiving, 250 rushing, 8 rec Td's, 2 ru TD's, 1 punt return TD.

[FlaHawker 24]

If Percy stays healthy and plays 16 games, well he already knows the offense and the OC. He's already building chemistry with Wilson.

 

I'll say 1,200 receiving, 250 rushing, 8 rec Td's, 2 ru TD's, 1 punt return TD.

With Lynch, Turbin and Michael in the backfield, not sure he manages 250 on the ground but other than that, those numbers look about right.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

With Lynch, Turbin and Michael in the backfield, not sure he manages 250 on the ground but other than that, those numbers look about right.

 

I was just thinking that. Probably won't even crack 100.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

Gee really? You think Wilson is an upgrade from Ponder? Wow! Who wouldathunkit! Let's see how will the Hawks use Harvin? Handoffs? Um yea, duh! Return work? Um yea, duh! Does Harvin have to stay healthy for an uptick in producion? Well, yea, duh! Keep the moon landing topics coming!

 

 

it must suck to be you such negativity all the time. it's comical how easy it is to get under your skin

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

I was just thinking that. Probably won't even crack 100.

 

this was kind of my reason for asking. In Minny, it seems Harvin was asked to do more to spark some offense. Ponder sucks, and at the start of the season I know they eased ADP back in carries wise. Plus there was no good #2 WR.

 

but now in Seattle i doubt he'd be asked to rush the ball as much.

 

a lot of times as explosive WR/KR's blossom in the passing game they stop returning kicks and punts. why risk the injury? I wonder if he will continue to do so.

[FlaHawker 24]

it must suck to be you such negativity all the time. it's comical how easy it is to get under your skin

It must suck to be a hypocrite...I admit being negative to posters I can't stand. You being in the top five. So don't come in here and act all smug like you're some saint. Some guy asked for advice on his podcast the other day and you insulted him for no reason. So take your sanctimonious attitude and shove it up your arse!

[Groundhog 24]

what do the intelligent Hawks fans expect from Harvin this year, fantasy wise?

The value of Percy is it frees up space for lynch. Defenses will not be able to put eight in the box with Percy around. By the same reasoning, it does not make sense to run Percy out of the backfield. All that does is allow the defense to sag in the middle. They used him like that in minnesota because they could not trust ponder to make the deep throw.

 

Bottom line, this is still a run-heavy offense. I see Percy with something like 65-1050-6.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

It must suck to be a hypocrite...I admit being negative to posters I can't stand. You being in the top five. So don't come in here and act all smug like you're some saint. Some guy asked for advice on his podcast the other day and you insulted him for no reason. So take your sanctimonious attitude and shove it up your arse!

 

i'm usually sarcastic with outsiders who come in and promote their product. they don't post any information, just a link to their outside site. In the past Mike has deleted their threads and it's pretty common practice to rag on them.

 

still, I don't see what that has to do with you following me into every thread. you're like my shadow. If I post somewhere, I know you'll be right behind me quoting me and crying about something or making a lame attempt to mock me I make a simple, reasonable post in here and as if by magic, you appear to be a cranky little bitch. You've had your panties in a bunch for as long as I can remember you posting here.

 

but seriously, keep up the good work

[KTL 0]

Bottom line, this is still a run-heavy offense. I see Percy with something like 65-1050-6.

 

I agree.

 

He will be highly overdrafted after being good value the last couple years. Wilson will spread the ball around more than Ponder.

[Hawkfin 32]

what do the intelligent Hawks fans expect from Harvin this year, fantasy wise?

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hmmmmm,

I think Harvin does more for the team then put up stud F.F. numbers.

 

But, If I take a guess at the numbers I'll say this:

Kick return game - 3-4 TD's and among the top of the leader board in yardage. If this counts for you, then he is a stud type player in F.F.

 

Rushing - 35 carries, 180 yards, 3 TD's. Lots of gadgets.

Recieving - 75 catches, 1080 yards, 9 TD's. (Leads the team though)

 

BUT, it could be less, it could be more. He's really a wildcard. With Wilson the sky is the limit, but with our running game and all the options we have, he could also be more average and just help the team in many ways. I think Wilson is a QB like Brees, that will spread it around also. But, we'll have plans and catches for Harvin for sure.

 

-His low is 800 yards and 6 TD's, 1 rush I think.

-His high could be anywhere. Sky is the limit as he's real exiting player in how he could be used and with a good accurate QB.

 

I'd say early 3rd rounder is a good place in PPR. Desperate folks will take him in the 2nd. If you get him after the 3rd, you stole him IMO. (Risk/Reward pick)

[FlaHawker 24]

i'm usually sarcastic with outsiders who come in and promote their product.

You're a smug hypocrite. Like I said, take your sanctimonious attitude and shove it. Now GFY

[FlaHawker 24]

 

I make a simple, reasonable post in here and as if by magic, you appear to be a cranky little bitch. You've had your panties in a bunch for as long as I can remember you posting here.

 

but seriously, keep up the good work

Wow I just a read the rest of your post. You're a liar too. You took an indirect jab at me by saying what do the "intelligent" Hawks fans think. You damn well know that was an indirect shot at me. But you're a liar and pvssy who won't admit it.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

Wow I just a read the rest of your post. You're a liar too. You took an indirect jab at me by saying what do the "intelligent" Hawks fans think. You damn well know that was an indirect shot at me. But you're a liar and pvssy who won't admit it.

 

If the shoe fits...

 

Perhaps I was subconsciously guarding against the very type of response you gave...

 

Plain and simple, I said something years ago that you didn't agree with and you're still stuck on it so you follow me into unrelated threads and quote me with the sole purpose of starting shiit. Then you cry when I say something not nice to you. You should grow up and learn to let it go. And if you have such an issue with me, why follow me into unrelated threads to quote me and start ######?. why follow a person you don't like? Doesn't make much sense

[FlaHawker 24]

If the shoe fits...

 

Perhaps I was subconsciously guarding against the very type of response you gave...

 

Subconsciously??? Pvssy can't even own it.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

this was kind of my reason for asking. In Minny, it seems Harvin was asked to do more to spark some offense. Ponder sucks, and at the start of the season I know they eased ADP back in carries wise. Plus there was no good #2 WR.

 

but now in Seattle i doubt he'd be asked to rush the ball as much.

 

a lot of times as explosive WR/KR's blossom in the passing game they stop returning kicks and punts. why risk the injury? I wonder if he will continue to do so.

 

I'd like to see Tate or Michael returning kickoffs with Harvin in there occasionally during desperate situations. He's possibly the best athlete on the team, so they might as well risk him on punt returns during close games.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

Subconsciously??? Pvssy can't even own it.

 

it was a joke, sally.

 

for someone who likes to talk about hypocrisy and take issue with my ragging on a site promoter, I seem to recall you in the IBL recruitment thread for no other reason but to poke and prod Voltaire might want to take that hypocrisy high horse to heart.

 

i fully expect some sort of deflection and your continual popping into random threads to quote me

[FlaHawker 24]

it was a joke, sally.

 

for someone who likes to talk about hypocrisy and take issue with my ragging on a site promoter, I seem to recall you in the IBL recruitment thread for no other reason but to poke and prod Voltaire might want to take that hypocrisy high horse to heart.

 

i fully expect some sort of deflection and your continual popping into random threads to quote me

Oh now it was joke, mmmm k Link to me claming I don't rag other posters? This is not about me but about you posting in this thread, taking a backhanded jab at me and then trying to claim that it wasn't an insult; and this also about your hypocrisy in other threads when you insult other posters but yet claim some how that it is acceptable for you to rag others becasue some how they are "outside posters". I have seen you do it plenty of times in other threads so please don;t act like you are some how above the whole ragging of other posters thing. Like I said, take your sanctimonious attitude and cram it where the sun don't shine! If you are going to be insulting to others don't biotch and moan about me. There are a few posters on this forum (you being one) that I love to, as you say, poke and prod, but I never deny it. The funny thing is all of you do it. Go read some of the trash over at the Geek bored and tell me I am the only one who gives people a hard time. Talk Seahawks all you like but if you are going to say stupid shite, like Pete Carroll will get fired due to media pressure or you are going to give me backhanded insults, I'm going to respond.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Our little buddy Aaron Curry just officially signed with the Giants.

[FlaHawker 24]

Our little buddy Aaron Curry just officially signed with the Giants.

That name makes me cringe. He was truly terrible.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

Oh now it was joke, mmmm k Link to me claming I don't rag other posters? This is not about me but about you posting in this thread, taking a backhanded jab at me and then trying to claim that it wasn't an insult; and this also about your hypocrisy in other threads when you insult other posters but yet claim some how that it is acceptable for you to rag others becasue some how they are "outside posters". I have seen you do it plenty of times in other threads so please don;t act like you are some how above the whole ragging of other posters thing. Like I said, take your sanctimonious attitude and cram it where the sun don't shine! If you are going to be insulting to others don't biotch and moan about me. There are a few posters on this forum (you being one) that I love to, as you say, poke and prod, but I never deny it. The funny thing is all of you do it. Go read some of the trash over at the Geek bored and tell me I am the only one who gives people a hard time. Talk Seahawks all you like but if you are going to say stupid shite, like Pete Carroll will get fired due to media pressure or you are going to give me backhanded insults, I'm going to respond.

 

Dude, you really are a fuggin' idiot aren't you?

 

Now it was a joke? ummm, no. the joke was the word "subconsciously"... me asking for intelligent seahawks fans was no joke. I wouldn't expect you to be bright enough to catch that.

 

You're calling me a hypocrite and sanctimonious for no reason. See, I can play your "link to me" game too.

-Link to me claiming I don't rag on other people or am above it?

-Link to me claiming you are the only one who does?

If you're going to make stuff up, try harder.

 

See, I have nothing to bitch and moan about... When you follow me around like a lost puppy into other threads just to quote me over some old Pete Carrol ###### that still has your panties in a wad, I just laugh at you. It's cute. Look, you even mentioned it in the above post and again, have misquoted me... but you remember whatever makes you happy.

 

Back handed insults or not, you're going to respond either way because i've been under your skin for years over one comment you didn't like. When you talk about self-righteousness and hypocrisy you're basically describing yourself and i'd be pretty shocked if even the hawk homers could stand you

[FlaHawker 24]

 

Dude, you really are a fuggin' idiot aren't you?

 

Now it was a joke? ummm, no. the joke was the word "subconsciously"... me asking for intelligent seahawks fans was no joke. I wouldn't expect you to be bright enough to catch that.

 

You're calling me a hypocrite and sanctimonious for no reason. See, I can play your "link to me" game too.

-Link to me claiming I don't rag on other people or am above it?

-Link to me claiming you are the only one who does?

If you're going to make stuff up, try harder.

 

See, I have nothing to bitch and moan about... When you follow me around like a lost puppy into other threads just to quote me over some old Pete Carrol ###### that still has your panties in a wad, I just laugh at you. It's cute. Look, you even mentioned it in the above post and again, have misquoted me... but you remember whatever makes you happy.

 

Back handed insults or not, you're going to respond either way because i've been under your skin for years over one comment you didn't like. When you talk about self-righteousness and hypocrisy you're basically describing yourself and i'd be pretty shocked if even the hawk homers could stand you

For the sake of this thread this will be my last post to you regarding your BS. You're a pvssy who couldn't own the backhanded insult but instead turned this into a circus and tried to claim that it was subconscious and then that you used the word subconscious as a joke (but yet to indicate it was a joke you some how left an emoticon out that would have indicated that you were 'trying" to be funny). You and 99% of the posters who post here insult others. Like I said, stop trying to act like you don't. I at least have NEVER denied it. If I see you in another thread I sometimes drop by and take a shot at you. I enjoy doing it. Again, you say you laugh but I highly doubt it. As for whether or not anyone in this thread can stand me is irrelevant. I simply don't care. PS I never misquoted you. Pull the quote and show me I'm wrong. Unfortunately for you, you have shown yourself to be a lying pvssy. It must suck to be you. Either come back and talk about the Hawks or move back to the Jets thread. I'm done with you on this topic.

[FlaHawker 24]

Looks like a few of the rookies who were downgraded by our draft gurus stepped up on day one of Rookie Minicamps:

 

Anyway, enough about that. As for the draft picks, rookie free agents and tryout players who were actually on the field Friday afternoon, few, if any, stood out more than fifth-round pick Luke Willson, who looked every bit like the athletic tight end the Seahawks were talking about when the drafted him last month. Now granted, he was going against fellow rookies, many of whom won't be in the NFL this year, but still, Willson showed good hands and some serious speed for a 252-pound man.

"He jumped out today," Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said, going on to call Willson's play, "Probably the brightest spot," of the practice.

Also making a good first impression on Carroll were running back Christine Michael, who Carroll called, "very quick, very quick, very sudden," fullback/running back Spencer Ware, and tackle Michael Bowie."

 

 

 

Go Luke Willson!

[Kopy 559]

Looks like a few of the rookies who were downgraded by our draft gurus stepped up on day one of Rookie Minicamps:

 

 

Go Luke Willson!

Michael should look good. His talent was and is never/not the issue with him. It's his .10 cent head and not his million dollar skills that I have the problem with. And as far as Wilson goes. I've been very vocal about wanting another TE. So I'd love it if this kid can make it. Any good fortune that goes the Seahawks way, far out ways me eating some crow. But I just wouldn't be surprised if he was more of a practice squad, eventual cut kid. More than an eventual on the field contributer.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

That name makes me cringe. He was truly terrible.

i find it helps to think about what happened in the 2nd round of the 2010 draft whenever Curry enters your head. That kind of helps.

 

Also, it would be awesome if Luke Wilson outperformed his teammate at Rice, Vance McDonald. I'm sure you guys have read about the Niners moving up to draft him ahead of us.

 

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Also, I missed Scruggs destroying his knee earlier in the week. That sucks, I really think he's a player. Thank god for all the defensive line depth we acquired this offseason.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

For the sake of this thread this will be my last post to you regarding your BS. You're a pvssy who couldn't own the backhanded insult but instead turned this into a circus and tried to claim that it was subconscious and then that you used the word subconscious as a joke (but yet to indicate it was a joke you some how left an emoticon out that would have indicated that you were 'trying" to be funny). You and 99% of the posters who post here insult others. Like I said, stop trying to act like you don't. I at least have NEVER denied it. If I see you in another thread I sometimes drop by and take a shot at you. I enjoy doing it. Again, you say you laugh but I highly doubt it. As for whether or not anyone in this thread can stand me is irrelevant. I simply don't care. PS I never misquoted you. Pull the quote and show me I'm wrong. Unfortunately for you, you have shown yourself to be a lying pvssy. It must suck to be you. Either come back and talk about the Hawks or move back to the Jets thread. I'm done with you on this topic.

 

so now an emoticon needs to be attached to something to indicate a joke? ok chief, whatever you say.

 

I'll ask again, link to me acting like i don't rag on others?

 

i do laugh at you because i'm clearly still under your skin......and it shows. I wasn't even tyring to get under your skin back then but it must be easy. Death, taxes and Failhawker following me around to quote me.

 

Pull the quote and show me you're right, kid. Pull a quote and show that i'm a lying pussy. In fact, pull any quote and prove anything. You love to play that card yet you can't practice what you preach. Hypocrisy at it's finest. All you do is grasp at straws. It's funny to watch you flail away. Maybe a better nickname is Flailhawker.

 

oh, and I hope you're done with this but somehow, I doubt it. I'd love to get back to talking about the Hawks.... you know, what I was doing inj the first place before you predictably derailed it.

[WhiteWonder 2,682]

I'd like to see Tate or Michael returning kickoffs with Harvin in there occasionally during desperate situations. He's possibly the best athlete on the team, so they might as well risk him on punt returns during close games.

 

yeah, it would be nice to see Harvin out of the return game... for fantasy purposes. But I agree, when the spark is needed, they could trot him out there.

 

as someone else said, I expect Wilson to spread the ball more than Ponder was ever able to do. just trying to gauge if that would be offset by simply being on a better team with a more productive offense. 3 less targets per game may not matter of he's able to do more with the targets he does get.

[FlaHawker 24]

Also, I missed Scruggs destroying his knee earlier in the week. That sucks, I really think he's a player. Thank god for all the defensive line depth we acquired this offseason.

Yea but I still have that Falcon game in my head when Scruggs came up empty. I mean one pressure, one sack at the right moment...nevermind...

[FlaHawker 24]

Looks like Michael Bowie had a nice camp as well

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/seahawks-turn-rookie-camp-island-misfit-toys-cornerbacks-141618016.html

[Vikings4ever 539]

I'd like to see Tate or Michael returning kickoffs with Harvin in there occasionally during desperate situations. He's possibly the best athlete on the team, so they might as well risk him on punt returns during close games.

Just FYI, but Harvin wasn't used as a punt returner in Minnesota. And when the likes of Greg Camarillo returning punts, there's a reason.