Zimmerman - Guilty of Murder or Self Defense

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Who said anything about GZ questioning anyone?

 

I was talking about cops testifying about their interviews with GZ. You have shown nothing to support your theory that is hearsay.

Look, you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the rules of evidence and so forth. I showed you what you need to know and you can't understand it. Which is fine, since you have no legal education or training. I wouldn't expect you to understand the finer points of a medical procedure either, since one needs to go to medical school for that.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Look, you have no clue what you're talking about. I showed you what you need to know and you can't understand it. Which is fine, since you have no legal education or training. I wouldn't expect you to understand the finer points of a medical procedure either, since one needs to go to medical school for that.

You have GZ questioning people, Matlock. I'm no attorney, but I don't think defendants do that.

 

As for your hearsay stuff, none of it precludes the testimony of the cops being admitted.

 

Dayum, you lose every legal discussion you get yourself into.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

You have GZ questioning people, Matlock. I'm no attorney, but I don't think defendants do that.

 

As for your hearsay stuff, none of it precludes the testimony of the cops being admitted.

 

Dayum, you lose every legal discussion you get yourself into.

Zimmerman's defense attorney would obviously do the questioning. I was referring to Zimmerman as the party to the action. Holy fock, every time I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber you go and prove me wrong.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Zimmerman's defense attorney would obviously do the questioning. I was referring to Zimmerman as the party to the action. Holy fock, every time I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber you go and prove me wrong.

Nice spin, Matlock.

 

Everyone else refers to the defense attorney doing the questioning, you refer to the defendant.

[phillybear 366]

In a fast read, I'm not seeing this. Apologies if someone else said it already:

 

 

The defense does NOT have to prove that GZ's life was in danger. Any more than the dozens of police shootings where the only justification was/is "I believed my life to be in danger." All that is necessary is to prove it is reasonable to believe that GZ could felt that his life was in danger.

 

And, if some guy is pummeling your head whilst on top of you and saying threatening things - whether you have a holstered weapon or not - doesn't change the fact that GZ could easiily have felt his life was in danger. When your head is being bashed against concrete, death by aneurysm is a reasonable possibility.

You seem reasonable and well thought out. Therefore, IGotWorms should be along any minute now to dispute your post.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

You seem reasonable and well thought out. Therefore, IGotWorms should be along any minute now to dispute your post.

Worms is a piece of work.

 

That lardass, illiterate, mumble-mouth Star Witness for the prosecution can testify for days about her phone conversation with lil Trayvon and it isn't hearsay.

 

But, if the defense calls the cops who investigated the case to testify about their conversations with GZ.....HEARSAY!

 

Funny thing is, he has no clue what a dumbass he is.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Nice spin, Matlock.

 

Everyone else refers to the defense attorney doing the questioning, you refer to the defendant.

Congratulations, your commitment to being a disruptive moron is unsurpassed. You've dedicated your very life to the cause. You've sacrificed your dignity, self respect, and family all in the name of being the bored's most accomplished troll.

 

Most people would've stopped or at least given pause when it became widely agreed-upon that you are, in fact, completely worthless as a human being. When your own wife and children left you, most people would think "what have I done to bring this pain on myself?" But not you. Never. Because that's how dedicated you are to being the most reviled poster in the history of a low rent Internet message board.

 

Good for you, I guess. It's not how I would want to define my life but I certainly can't question your commitment.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I just saw a clip, although it was on Fox so take it for what it is worth , where the prosecution called a cop and they were playing a tape of the interview she did with GZ.

 

Nobody jumped up to yell "Hearsay".

 

That's weird, cuz Worms just told us how none of those interviews would be admissible.

 

I see I have you on tilt by running circles around your complete lack of legal knowledge.

[phillybear 366]

Congratulations, your commitment to being a disruptive moron is unsurpassed. You've dedicated your very life to the cause. You've sacrificed your dignity, self respect, and family all in the name of being the bored's most accomplished troll.

 

Most people would've stopped or at least given pause when it became widely agreed-upon that you are, in fact, completely worthless as a human being. When your own wife and children left you, most people would think "what have I done to bring this pain on myself?" But not you. Never. Because that's how dedicated you are to being the most reviled poster in the history of a low rent Internet message board.

 

Good for you, I guess. It's not how I would want to define my life but I certainly can't question your commitment.

Sa-weet. I'm just going to copy and paste this and use it the next time I get into an argument with Newbie.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Worms is a piece of work.

 

That lardass, illiterate, mumble-mouth Star Witness for the prosecution can testify for days about her phone conversation with lil Trayvon and it isn't hearsay.

 

But, if the defense calls the cops who investigated the case to testify about their conversations with GZ.....HEARSAY!

 

Funny thing is, he has no clue what a dumbass he is.

I know the hearsay rules focktard. Present sense impression. Look it up, but you won't be able to understand it since you possess the intellectual curiosity of a developmentally disabled two year old.

[Mike Honcho 5,302]

I just saw a clip, although it was on Fox so take it for what it is worth , where the prosecution called a cop and they were playing a tape of the interview she did with GZ.

 

Nobody jumped up to yell "Hearsay".

 

That's weird, cuz Worms just told us how none of those interviews would be admissible.

 

I see I have you on tilt by running circles around your complete lack of legal knowledge.

 

Holy crap, you're stupid.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

I just saw a clip, although it was on Fox so take it for what it is worth , where the prosecution called a cop and they were playing a tape of the interview she did with GZ.

 

Nobody jumped up to yell "Hearsay".

 

That's weird, cuz Worms just told us how none of those interviews would be admissible.

 

I see I have you on tilt by running circles around your complete lack of legal knowledge.

If introduced by the prosecution it is an admission of a party opponent. The link I gave you earlier explained all of that but, sadly, you were far too stupid to understand it.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Yeah, because it's about the trial. The jury only knows what it hears and sees at trial.

 

As for the videos, Zimmerman is probably going to have to testify to get most of those in. Reason being that the State should have an opportunity to cross-examine on his statements.

GZ interview admitted into evidence.

 

Oops!

[IGotWorms 4,059]

GZ interview admitted into evidence.

 

Oops!

Again I refer you back to my earlier post explaining the hearsay considerations, made when I stupidly thought for a second that you actually had some interest in understanding the rules of evidence. Now I realize that you are once again up to your sad, pathetic little life as a lonely retarded troll. Enjoy it. Try to focus on this rather than thinking about how your cvm dumpster of an ex wife is likely blowing a doctor for business as we type.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Again I refer you back to my earlier post explaining the hearsay considerations, made when I stupidly thought for a second that you actually had some interest in understanding the rules of evidence. Now I realize that you are once again up to your sad, pathetic little life as a lonely retarded troll. Enjoy it. Try to focus on this rather than thinking about how your cvm dumpster of an ex wife is likely blowing a doctor for business as we type.

TILT!

 

So it is your legal opinion that the prosecution will get to admit these interviews, but the defense will be prohibited from using them?

 

I think this is where your "due process" argument comes back to bite you in the ass.

[The Moz 69]

Congratulations, your commitment to being a disruptive moron is unsurpassed. You've dedicated your very life to the cause. You've sacrificed your dignity, self respect, and family all in the name of being the bored's most accomplished troll.

 

Most people would've stopped or at least given pause when it became widely agreed-upon that you are, in fact, completely worthless as a human being. When your own wife and children left you, most people would think "what have I done to bring this pain on myself?" But not you. Never. Because that's how dedicated you are to being the most reviled poster in the history of a low rent Internet message board.

 

Good for you, I guess. It's not how I would want to define my life but I certainly can't question your commitment.

While I must give points to you for creativity - several points should get taken away for Hypocrisy and simply being wrong. I would call both of you equal as far as being a "troll" .

 

RP is NOT the most reviled person on FFT that is GFIAFP or maybe Swerski an Gutterboy with HM.

 

Worms you post here A lot on the WEEKENDS - you have no kids yet you are on here during the weekend and at night - and then want to make fun of others for what you say "having no life".

 

I wouldn't say either of you is worthless maybe far too damn intense regarding the contents on a low rent message board.

 

While you do write better than RP - it does seem he backs up what he says many more time than you do - seems much of the time you give your opinion and seem to act as if it is fact. While maybe not the writer you are RP backs up a lot of what he says with links - granted not always the greatest links

 

~ You're friendly... Homicidal, grammatically challenged , Racist

[BLS 314]

Let's get back on track fellas.

[The Moz 69]

Let's get back on track fellas.

Other than Zimmerman getting off there's not much more to talk about The DA has done so badly it's no longer of aquestion of if he gets off it's whether or not it just gets diminished or not.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

While I must give points to you for creativity - several points should get taken away for Hypocrisy and simply being wrong. I would call both of you equal as far as being a "troll" .

 

RP is NOT the most reviled person on FFT that is GFIAFP or maybe Swerski an Gutterboy with HM.

 

Worms you post here A lot on the WEEKENDS - you have no kids yet you are on here during the weekend and at night - and then want to make fun of others for what you say "having no life".

 

I wouldn't say either of you is worthless maybe far too damn intense regarding the contents on a low rent message board.

 

While you do write better than RP - it does seem he backs up what he says many more time than you do - seems much of the time you give your opinion and seem to act as if it is fact. While maybe not the writer you are RP backs up a lot of what he says with links - granted not always the greatest links

 

~ You're friendly... Homicidal, grammatically challenged , Racist

 

I am in no way, shape, or form comparable to RP. But I will give you one thing--I do post here too much, especially given the level of discourse one often encounters here. I'll work on posting less as it is clearly a waste of time anyway.

[The Moz 69]

 

I'll work on posting less

:clap:

[Sho Nuff 720]

TILT!

 

So it is your legal opinion that the prosecution will get to admit these interviews, but the defense will be prohibited from using them?

 

I think this is where your "due process" argument comes back to bite you in the ass.

 

Again...you claim someone else is tilting...yet,what is happening goes right along with his post on hearsay.

That you don't seem to understand things very well in this case and keep trying to claim he is wrong and you are right is laughable.

As much as you calling him a dumbass or moron or whatever in reference to these legal issues when he has basically been schooling you on them over and over again.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

While you do write better than RP - it does seem he backs up what he says many more time than you do - seems much of the time you give your opinion and seem to act as if it is fact. While maybe not the writer you are RP backs up a lot of what he says with links - granted not always the greatest links

 

~ You're friendly... Homicidal, grammatically challenged , Racist

 

RP backs up what he says with links?

Since when?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

I am in no way, shape, or form comparable to RP. But I will give you one thing--I do post here too much, especially given the level of discourse one often encounters here. I'll work on posting less as it is clearly a waste of time anyway.

But just think, all those years and all that money spent on learning law, and RP is still teaching you stuff because of his vast all-around knowledge of everything. Soon, he'll be telling Sux how to fix cars, me how to entertain crowds with music, BLS about weaponry, and Med Student about health. The guy is just an all-around genius!! And he obviously has no fear of getting destroyed on subjects he knows nothing about.

 

I honestly think he wakes up in the morning trying to figure out how to make a bigger ass out of himself than the day before.

[The Moz 69]

But just think, all those years and all that money spent on learning law, and RP is still teaching you stuff because of his vast all-around knowledge of everything. Soon, he'll be telling Sux how to fix cars, me how to entertain crowds with music, BLS about weaponry, and Med Student about health. The guy is just an all-around genius!! And he obviously has no fear of getting destroyed on subjects he knows nothing about.

 

I honestly think he wakes up in the morning trying to figure out how to make a bigger ass out of himself than the day before.

Come on now. While fixing a car Sux consults a group of trained Monkey's whenever he needs to make a decision. Hell I might be better at fixing the cars.

[The Moz 69]

 

RP backs up what he says with links?

Since when?

I don't know I always see him posting links a lot though - granted I rarely read what he posts so maybe I am not the best judge.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I don't know I always see him posting links a lot though - granted I rarely read what he posts so maybe I am not the best judge.

 

I think that makes you normal (at least as far as reading what links he may post)

[Recliner Pilot 61]

. But I will give you one thing--I do post here too much, especially given the level of discourse one often encounters here.

 

Good thing you stay above the fray.

 

 

Now I realize that you are once again up to your sad, pathetic little life as a lonely retarded troll. Enjoy it. Try to focus on this rather than thinking about how your cvm dumpster of an ex wife is likely blowing a doctor for business as we type.

 

 

Congratulations, your commitment to being a disruptive moron is unsurpassed. You've dedicated your very life to the cause. You've sacrificed your dignity, self respect, and family all in the name of being the bored's most accomplished troll.

 

Most people would've stopped or at least given pause when it became widely agreed-upon that you are, in fact, completely worthless as a human being. When your own wife and children left you, most people would think "what have I done to bring this pain on myself?" But not you. Never. Because that's how dedicated you are to being the most reviled poster in the history of a low rent Internet message board.

 

Good for you, I guess. It's not how I would want to define my life but I certainly can't question your commitment.

 

 

This is some funny sh!t.

 

Worms crying about the level of discourse when he is the only poster in the thread going after another poster's family.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

Again...you claim someone else is tilting...yet,what is happening goes right along with his post on hearsay.

That you don't seem to understand things very well in this case and keep trying to claim he is wrong and you are right is laughable.

As much as you calling him a dumbass or moron or whatever in reference to these legal issues when he has basically been schooling you on them over and over again.

YIP! YIP! YIP!

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Good thing you stay above the fray.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is some funny sh!t.

 

Worms crying about the level of discourse when he is the only poster in the thread going after another poster's family.

Is she really still family when she moved out almost a year ago and has had more doctors in her than most hospitals?

[Sho Nuff 720]

YIP! YIP! YIP!

 

Whats funny...is the biggest yip dogs out there are you and drobeski...and you can't even be original (when he started the yip claim which was laughable as usual). All you do is yip at people (me, worms...newbie...)

 

 

You just get pissed because you know Im right.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Wow!

 

Live feed from the court room is showing nothing but video of GZ's police interviews.

 

Someone should call that judge and tell her this is hearsay unless the prosecution gets to cross examine Zimmerman on the stand.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Wow!

 

Live feed from the court room is showing nothing but video of GZ's police interviews.

 

Someone should call that judge and tell her this is hearsay unless the prosecution gets to cross examine Zimmerman on the stand.

 

And someone here is still showing he does not understand what was discussed above and continues to make an ass of himself.

Psst...I am talking about you.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Legal expert (not Worms) just said this is huge for the defense. GZ gets his side of the story out in the best possible light, and does not get cross examined.

 

I'm beginning to think this prosecutor has been bought off by the defense.

[NorthernVike 2,087]

This thread is getting full of stupid.

[phillybear 366]

CNN successfully broadcasted Zimmerman's SSN and other personal info for their viewers.

 

Which means dozens of people saw it.

[mobb_deep 920]

 

The problem is that you are comparing the sitaution against your liberalized interpretation of the law. The actual law is that self defense allows to to respond with the amount of force being acted on you. So he has to prove he felt his life was in danger. You can say gun vs no gun, but if he was getting his head smashed in he could reasonably assume if he was knocked out his life would be in extreme danger. That justifies self defense IMO.

Focking lol. Why does everything need to be harkened back to politics w/ you? This isn't my "liberalized" opinion, based on my interpretation of the law. I understand the law, in regards to what constitutes self defense. I'm not trying to guess or even pretend to care what happens with this specific trial. I'm making a general statement on having testicles. I'm saying that it's utterly silly to claim you were in fear of your life, when you were the only guy with a gun. Talk about liberal logic...

[peenie 1,916]

i wanted to take a trip to st. lucia this year and decided to save money by getting rid of cable and internet at home. (saves me $100/mo)

i'm a bit out of touch but i've heard some things....

if you believe rachel's testimony that trayvon called zimmerman a "creepy cracker," then you must also believe rachel/trayvon when he said, "the nigga is still FOLLOWING me."

that means zimmerman is lying when he claims trayvon approached him and beat him up vs zimmerman approached trayvon and trayvon was defending himself against a stranger with a gun.

 

also, paula deen calling her employees ni99ers is not the same as trayvon speaking to his girlfriend about some random person.

ni99er = low life black person

ni99a = slang word for strange person (in this case)

[mobb_deep 920]

i wanted to take a trip to st. lucia this year and decided to save money by getting rid of cable and internet at home. (saves me $100/mo)

i'm a bit out of touch but i've heard some things....

if you believe rachel's testimony that trayvon called zimmerman a "creepy cracker," then you must also believe rachel/trayvon when he said, "the nigga is still FOLLOWING me."

that means zimmerman is lying when he claims trayvon approached him and beat him up vs zimmerman approached trayvon and trayvon was defending himself against a stranger with a gun.

 

also, paula deen calling her employees ni99ers is not the same as trayvon speaking to his girlfriend about some random person.

ni99er = low life black person

ni99a = slang word for strange person (in this case)

ni99er = low life black person

ni99a = slang word for strange person (in this case), by a low life black person (in any case).

[peenie 1,916]

ni99er = low life black person

ni99a = slang word for strange person (in this case), by a low life black person (in any case).

 

just as long as you keep that word out of your mouth

[SUXBNME 1,521]

Come on now. While fixing a car Sux consults a group of trained Monkey's whenever he needs to make a decision. Hell I might be better at fixing the cars.