Cuse9 129 Posted August 23, 2013 Jermaine Kearse is the best Seattle receiver. There's your future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 23, 2013 Jermaine Kearse is the best Seattle receiver. There's your future. Whoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted August 23, 2013 Whoa. Whoa.....Golden Tate has never impressed me. He was great in college when he was athletically better than DB's, but the NFL it's a lot more than just talent. Kearse is a lot better receiver than Tate. Rice is always hurt and Harvin is an all around beast, but by the time he comes back, Kearse will have established himself. Tate won't see the big payday, cause the Hawks won't need to pay him. Kearse and Harvin compliment each other well. There's your future. Now you just need Michael to become the feature back and your future is good!! I like Lynch, but RB's have a short shelf life...Michael is the stud in waiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted August 23, 2013 Back to seahawk related issues. What do you guys think happens if Tate has a big year? Give him a big contract, and roll with him and Harvin? I'd assume we ask Rice to restructure and take a big cut, if he doesn't, release him. Â If Tate has a big year, we pay the man, but I think Rice needs to be restructured. We can't dedicate huge dollars to ALL of Rice, Harvin and Tate too. Too much for one position. Keep in mind also that the cap is already strongly weighted towards the offense. At some point, we're going to have to pay up for Earl and Richard after they come off their rookie contracts. Plus, in three years we're going to have to pay #3 a little extra coin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted August 23, 2013 Whoa.....Golden Tate has never impressed me. He was great in college when he was athletically better than DB's, but the NFL it's a lot more than just talent. Kearse is a lot better receiver than Tate. Rice is always hurt and Harvin is an all around beast, but by the time he comes back, Kearse will have established himself. Tate won't see the big payday, cause the Hawks won't need to pay him. Kearse and Harvin compliment each other well. There's your future. Now you just need Michael to become the feature back and your future is good!! I like Lynch, but RB's have a short shelf life...Michael is the stud in waiting. Â Tate never bothered to learn how to run crisp routes in college, because he could get by on natural talent. Not anymore. His route running has been better in preseason and this is why I think he takes a step up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 23, 2013 Whoa.....Golden Tate has never impressed me. He was great in college when he was athletically better than DB's, but the NFL it's a lot more than just talent. Kearse is a lot better receiver than Tate. Rice is always hurt and Harvin is an all around beast, but by the time he comes back, Kearse will have established himself. Tate won't see the big payday, cause the Hawks won't need to pay him. Kearse and Harvin compliment each other well. There's your future. Now you just need Michael to become the feature back and your future is good!! I like Lynch, but RB's have a short shelf life...Michael is the stud in waiting. Kearse has a lot of potential, but is completely unproven thus far in his career. A complete unknown. Â Golden Tate's light bulb went on last year, when he became a clutch, game changing, big play WR. He's been easily the most impressive WR in camp this year. Â Rice seemed pretty healthy last year, as he played in every single game. Â Kearse is currently behind Rice, Tate, Baldwin in the depth chart, and when Harvin comes back midseason, he will likely drop down further. Don't get me wrong, I like Kearse. But he has to wait his turn and remain consistent. Â Don't bury Lynch yet. He's a special back and until he breaks down from being a battering ram, you have to keep running him out there. Girl's Name isn't going to be ahead of Turbin on the depth chart this year either. Girl's Name is the #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted August 23, 2013 Â Tate never bothered to learn how to run crisp routes in college, because he could get by on natural talent. Not anymore. His route running has been better in preseason and this is why I think he takes a step up. You could definitely be right, I don't pay a lot of attention to him. I do like Kearse though. He had a great junior year then due to injuries he had a lack luster senior year, dude is very good though! Got his feet wet last year and has had a lot of work with Wilson due to other wr injuries. I think all he needed was opportunity. Â Definitely agree on tying up too much money in wide receivers. Can't neglect other positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 23, 2013 You could definitely be right, I don't pay a lot of attention to him. I do like Kearse though. He had a great junior year then due to injuries he had a lack luster senior year, dude is very good though! Got his feet wet last year and has had a lot of work with Wilson due to other wr injuries. I think all he needed was opportunity. Â Definitely agree on tying up too much money in wide receivers. Can't neglect other positions. Kearse will certainly get opportunity. Of all the teams in the NFL, it's the perfect spot for opportunity. The team's coaching staff preaches competition at every position, and you have to continually earn your job. Â Kearse got eye surgery in the offseason. It's made a huge difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 23, 2013 You could definitely be right, I don't pay a lot of attention to him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD7m1-wf9AQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 23, 2013 This should probably go in the San Fran thread, but I'll be damned if I can find it anywhere. Anyway... Â Remember WR Ricardo Lockette, and how excited we were by his potential, which he somehow squandered, and went from super prospect to being cut? Well, most of y'all know he got picked up by San Fran. And Harbaugh spent time bragging about his potential. Lockette was roommates and best friends with Kaepernick this offseason. Of course, San Fran is badly hurting at WR from injuries and underachievement. So what's new? Lockette got cut yesterday. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted August 23, 2013 This should probably go in the San Fran thread, but I'll be damned if I can find it anywhere. Anyway... Â Remember WR Ricardo Lockette, and how excited we were by his potential, which he somehow squandered, and went from super prospect to being cut? Well, most of y'all know he got picked up by San Fran. And Harbaugh spent time bragging about his potential. Lockette was roommates and best friends with Kaepernick this offseason. Of course, San Fran is badly hurting at WR from injuries and underachievement. So what's new? Lockette got cut yesterday. Â Â turns out that running a go route up the field is not the ONLY thing that Seattle WRs need to do. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 24, 2013 This should probably go in the San Fran thread, but I'll be damned if I can find it anywhere. Anyway... Â Remember WR Ricardo Lockette, and how excited we were by his potential, which he somehow squandered, and went from super prospect to being cut? Well, most of y'all know he got picked up by San Fran. And Harbaugh spent time bragging about his potential. Lockette was roommates and best friends with Kaepernick this offseason. Of course, San Fran is badly hurting at WR from injuries and underachievement. So what's new? Lockette got cut yesterday. Â Reporters surrounding San Francisco 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh during the NFL owners' meeting in March perked up when he offered high praise for a little-known wide receiver, Ricardo Lockette."There is something special there," Harbaugh said. "I can feel it." Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 24, 2013 Some quick hits on lasty night's game: Â Positives: Â Christine Michael is dynamic. He showed last night that he should clearly be the #2 back over Turbin. Much more explosive runner. Stephen Williams might provide that big recevier that PC has always wanted. The running game looked solid. Tony McDaniel and the run defense. Absolutely destroyed Eddie Lacy and the Fudgepacker running game. The defense in general. Held GB to 201 total yards. Â Negatives: Â penalties, penalties, penalties..I'll say more about this below. JR Sweezy was terrible. Maybe they got rid of Moffitt too soon. The O line in general was piss poor in pass pro. Now GB blitzed all night and the Hawks did not game plan for it but still terrible pass pro. Â Overall impressions: Â The NFL needs to knock off the BS. The penalties being called are ridiculous--for both sides. In fact the worst call of the night was the roughing the passer on GB. Just terrible. Serioulsy let's just quit tackling and put the flags on. This is a disgrace. The 2 pass intereference calls on Sherman (incidental contact--feet tangled up) and Will Blackmon were jokes. The blow to the head call on Bobby wagner was pathetic as was the call on ET for running into the kicker. the NFL need to clean this BS up fast. That still doesn't take away from sloppy play but a lot of those call both ways were horrific. Â Also, because of Rodgers the Pack will contend and probably win their division but they are soft and will wilt against physical teams like Seattle and SF. Eddie Lacy looked like a plodding runner that will be really good against less physical efenses but when playing a defense like Seattle you see what happens: 8/-5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted August 24, 2013 Seattle's defense crushed Eddie Lacy. Makes me nervous to target him in my money/dynasty league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 24, 2013 Some quick hits on lasty night's game: Â Positives: Â Christine Michael is dynamic. He showed last night that he should clearly be the #2 back over Turbin. Much more explosive runner. Stephen Williams might provide that big recevier that PC has always wanted. The running game looked solid. Tony McDaniel and the run defense. Absolutely destroyed Eddie Lacy and the Fudgepacker running game. The defense in general. Held GB to 201 total yards. Â Negatives: Â penalties, penalties, penalties..I'll say more about this below. JR Sweezy was terrible. Maybe they got rid of Moffitt too soon. The O line in general was piss poor in pass pro. Now GB blitzed all night and the Hawks did not game plan for it but still terrible pass pro. Â Overall impressions: Â The NFL needs to knock off the BS. The penalties being called are ridiculous--for both sides. In fact the worst call of the night was the roughing the passer on GB. Just terrible. Serioulsy let's just quit tackling and put the flags on. This is a disgrace. The 2 pass intereference calls on Sherman (incidental contact--feet tangled up) and Will Blackmon were jokes. The blow to the head call on Bobby wagner was pathetic as was the call on ET for running into the kicker. the NFL need to clean this BS up fast. That still doesn't take away from sloppy play but a lot of those call both ways were horrific. Â Also, because of Rodgers the Pack will contend and probably win their division but they are soft and will wilt against physical teams like Seattle and SF. Eddie Lacy looked like a plodding runner that will be really good against less physical efenses but when playing a defense like Seattle you see what happens: 8/-5 Â Not a terrible analysis...but lets be honest...Rodgers moved the ball on them. Lacy had zero chance with Seattle loading the box against Graham Harrell. Agree with you on the penalty calls...the PI were ticky tack...but were called because both times the DBs put their hand out to impede the progress of the WR. They will call that a lot in this era of the league where they want offense. Running into the kicker was laughable. Â I strongly disagree that GB is soft. They won't be facing many defensive fronts able to load up against them like they did when Harrell was in there. IF so...Rodgers will destroy that team that tries it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 24, 2013 Seattle's defense crushed Eddie Lacy. Makes me nervous to target him in my money/dynasty league. Â What defense won't crush any RB with Graham Harrell in at QB against a team's first string defense. With only James Jones on the outside as a capable WR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted August 24, 2013 Â What defense won't crush any RB with Graham Harrell in at QB against a team's first string defense. With only James Jones on the outside as a capable WR? Â Right but even Adrian Peterson can get a few yards with Ponder as his QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 24, 2013 Â Right but even Adrian Peterson can get a few yards with Ponder as his QB. Â This just in...Adrian Peterson is better than Lacy. And Ponder is better than a QB who may get beat out by Vince Young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 572 Posted August 24, 2013 For my .02 This defense is your typical bend but don't break, and try to creat the turnover in the process. Teams do, and will move from the 20 to the 20 on them. (Lets all hope 3rd down management IS improved. That has been the headache over the years.) But we're not gonna let too much into the endzone. I think we'll also get our fair share of sacks and turnovers. Lets also not forget that teams like G.B., Atlanta, N.O. are offensive powerhouses. Even a team like Detroit to a little lesser extent. It's the Seattle, and S.F. that to me are the total package when you add in all 3 phases of the game. Maybe even the Giants too. They've been there done that. Not great in one area, but all around solid. That's what I think the G.B.'s are missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 572 Posted August 24, 2013 Hawker, or anyone else. How'd McGrath and Wilson look? I'm looking for a deep sleeper at TE for my Dynasty team. (We have a big bench) If we move on from Miller next year, is there anything to see here? Vance McDonald out of S.F. also caught my eye, he's been dinged up though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 25, 2013 Hawker, or anyone else. How'd McGrath and Wilson look? I'm looking for a deep sleeper at TE for my Dynasty team. (We have a big bench) If we move on from Miller next year, is there anything to see here? Vance McDonald out of S.F. also caught my eye, he's been dinged up though Kopy, Â Nether really stood out. I don't mean they played poorly just no real big plays. In terms of dynasty, I would roll with Willson over McGrath in terms of athletic potential. McGrath may be a better player right now due to experience but he does not have Willson's athletic upside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 25, 2013 Matt "Noodle Arm" Flynn crumbling in Oakland  http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/8/24/4653600/quarterback-controversy-oakland-raiders-terrelle-pryor-matt-Flynn  Looks like next week's game against the Hawks might decide who starts the season in Oakland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 Side notes: Â Matt Flynn supposedly dealing with another "sore" arm. Looks like Pryor beat him out. Also Aaron Curry cut--again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Matt "Noodle Arm" Flynn crumbling in Oakland  http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/8/24/4653600/quarterback-controversy-oakland-raiders-terrelle-pryor-matt-Flynn  Looks like next week's game against the Hawks might decide who starts the season in Oakland.  I've watched Oakland play this preseason. They have no WRs, no TE, and especially don't have anybody on their roster that can block worth a damn. If they win one game this year, it would be a miracle. I know they had to cut a bunch of guys to get under the cap, as their finances were a disaster. But they are beyond awful. I feel a bit bad for Flynn in be put in a no chance situation, but he and Wilson didn't get along, so he was dumped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Some quick hits on lasty night's game: Â Positives: Â Christine Michael is dynamic. He showed last night that he should clearly be the #2 back over Turbin. Much more explosive runner. Stephen Williams might provide that big recevier that PC has always wanted. The running game looked solid. Tony McDaniel and the run defense. Absolutely destroyed Eddie Lacy and the Fudgepacker running game. The defense in general. Held GB to 201 total yards. Â Negatives: Â penalties, penalties, penalties..I'll say more about this below. JR Sweezy was terrible. Maybe they got rid of Moffitt too soon. The O line in general was piss poor in pass pro. Now GB blitzed all night and the Hawks did not game plan for it but still terrible pass pro. Â Overall impressions: Â The NFL needs to knock off the BS. The penalties being called are ridiculous--for both sides. In fact the worst call of the night was the roughing the passer on GB. Just terrible. Serioulsy let's just quit tackling and put the flags on. This is a disgrace. The 2 pass intereference calls on Sherman (incidental contact--feet tangled up) and Will Blackmon were jokes. The blow to the head call on Bobby wagner was pathetic as was the call on ET for running into the kicker. the NFL need to clean this BS up fast. That still doesn't take away from sloppy play but a lot of those call both ways were horrific. Â Also, because of Rodgers the Pack will contend and probably win their division but they are soft and will wilt against physical teams like Seattle and SF. Eddie Lacy looked like a plodding runner that will be really good against less physical efenses but when playing a defense like Seattle you see what happens: 8/-5 Â Green Bay played like it was a playoff game. Defensively, anyway. There was some emotion of revenge for last year's game, but more importantly, they wanted to give their front 7 plenty of reps vs Wilson, thinking it will help them to prepare for early season games with SF and Wash. The problem with that was that Seattle never let go of their vanilla offense. They didn't run read option. They didn't throw WR screens, bubble screens, dump offs, basically anything that would offset all the blitzing and stunting Green Bay was running non stop. Nevertheless, with all that effort, Green Bay managed to get a 3-3 halftime time. Graham Harrell ran a fine offensive system in Texas Tech with Mike Leach. But he is far from a solid backup QB in the NFL. No wonder Seattle's defense shut him down for the most part. Inexplicably, Seattle played a lot of man to man vs Vince Young, and Young kept running for 10 yard gains. You have to make Young throw the ball, and you do that by playing zone. Â It's no secret that the defense and offense has revealed next to nothing in the preseason for what to expect in the regular season. Â Random guys I thought played well: Stephen Williams. Girl's Name. Russell Wilson, yeah two picks but one was deflected twice. He completed. I bet Pete Carroll can remember Tony McDaniel's name now. Â We have something like 27 penalties the past two games. While there has been some really shitty officiating in that time and a vast majority of those calls were bullsh!t, that is way, way, way too many flags, as if the NFL wants to prevent physical teams from being physical. The NFL can go fock itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 For my .02 This defense is your typical bend but don't break, and try to creat the turnover in the process. Teams do, and will move from the 20 to the 20 on them. (Lets all hope 3rd down management IS improved. That has been the headache over the years.) But we're not gonna let too much into the endzone. I think we'll also get our fair share of sacks and turnovers. Lets also not forget that teams like G.B., Atlanta, N.O. are offensive powerhouses. Even a team like Detroit to a little lesser extent. It's the Seattle, and S.F. that to me are the total package when you add in all 3 phases of the game. Maybe even the Giants too. They've been there done that. Not great in one area, but all around solid. That's what I think the G.B.'s are missing. Â The entire defensive roster of front 7 players have been lining up all over the place, playing multiple position. Quinn is an aggressive coach and he will put plenty of pressure on the QBs this season. I don't see much non aggression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 JR Sweezy was terrible. Maybe they got rid of Moffitt too soon. Almost forgot about this one. Sweezey actually played really, really well. He picked up one legitimate penalty, and basically spent the rest of the night clearing huge rushing lanes, at times blocking 2, 3, 4 guys on a play downfield . No, I think Sweezey is doing just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Side notes: Â Matt Flynn supposedly dealing with another "sore" arm. Looks like Pryor beat him out. Also Aaron Curry cut--again. Eh, if they give the job to Pryor, it would only be due to a need for a QB that can run for his life on a play when it breaks down, which will be every play. That doesn't fit Flynn's profiel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 26, 2013 Â Green Bay played like it was a playoff game. Defensively, anyway. There was some emotion of revenge for last year's game, but more importantly, they wanted to give their front 7 plenty of reps vs Wilson, thinking it will help them to prepare for early season games with SF and Wash. The problem with that was that Seattle never let go of their vanilla offense. They didn't run read option. They didn't throw WR screens, bubble screens, dump offs, basically anything that would offset all the blitzing and stunting Green Bay was running non stop. Nevertheless, with all that effort, Green Bay managed to get a 3-3 halftime time. Graham Harrell ran a fine offensive system in Texas Tech with Mike Leach. But he is far from a solid backup QB in the NFL. No wonder Seattle's defense shut him down for the most part. Inexplicably, Seattle played a lot of man to man vs Vince Young, and Young kept running for 10 yard gains. You have to make Young throw the ball, and you do that by playing zone. Â It's no secret that the defense and offense has revealed next to nothing in the preseason for what to expect in the regular season. Â Random guys I thought played well: Stephen Williams. Girl's Name. Russell Wilson, yeah two picks but one was deflected twice. He completed. I bet Pete Carroll can remember Tony McDaniel's name now. Â We have something like 27 penalties the past two games. While there has been some really shitty officiating in that time and a vast majority of those calls were bullsh!t, that is way, way, way too many flags, as if the NFL wants to prevent physical teams from being physical. The NFL can go fock itself. Â Like a playoff game? Yeah...thats why the Packers pulled Rodgers after one series and most of the defense was out before half time. Oh no...they blitzed here and there...guess what, that is what Capers does. He is going to bring 5 every time...until inexplicably he goes to a 3 man rush on 3rd down (which he did often the other night). Â To claim GB played that pissed off or like a playoff game is just sheer ignorance. Emotion of revenge? Yeah...that was it..because it was GB taking all the penalties right? Hell...the two guys that retaliated for the crap Seattle was doing were two that didn't even play last year (one was a backup all year in Francois...the other a rookie this year). Â Perhaps it was more Seattle pushing things (as they apparently did the game before by the comment to Carroll at halftime and the number of penalties they have seen). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 Notes from Peter C. Carroll on ESPN 710 Seattle: Â James Carpenter back on the field today. Christine Michael is seriously challenging Turbin for the # 2 RB. Two players that have really flashed for PC: OT/OG Michael Bowie and TE Luke Willson. Cliff Avril tweak his hammy again last week. Who knows when he will get back on field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 Jesse Williams placed on IR. No link yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Â Like a playoff game? Yeah...thats why the Packers pulled Rodgers after one series and most of the defense was out before half time. Oh no...they blitzed here and there...guess what, that is what Capers does. He is going to bring 5 every time...until inexplicably he goes to a 3 man rush on 3rd down (which he did often the other night). Â To claim GB played that pissed off or like a playoff game is just sheer ignorance. Emotion of revenge? Yeah...that was it..because it was GB taking all the penalties right? Hell...the two guys that retaliated for the crap Seattle was doing were two that didn't even play last year (one was a backup all year in Francois...the other a rookie this year). Â Perhaps it was more Seattle pushing things (as they apparently did the game before by the comment to Carroll at halftime and the number of penalties they have seen). Â Stop it. You are being silly right now. I said Green Bay with emotion, as if it was a playoff game, defensively. Yeah, they pulled Rodgers. I'm not denying that. But if you think Green Bay wasn't taking that game seriously defensively because of SF and Wash, and maybe to prove to themselves they can contain a mobile QB, then you are missing the forest for the trees. Teams rarely play with any urgency in preseason games. I saw a lot of hustle in Green Bay's defense. Â Hey, most teams don't blitz in the preseason. If you say Capers does it all the time, so be it. Seattle never adjusted to the blitzes. I wasn't seeing the delayed draws, the WR quick hitters, so it was open season on Wilson. Eh, whatever. Â I did not equate the penalties to emotion. I equated the penalties in the game to shitty officiating, mistakes by players, and a desire of the NFL to curtail physical play by calling an excessive amount of penalties on the more physical teams in the NFL as they continue to crack down on teams that hit hard to lessen future lawsuits. My thoughts and prayers are that they cut this sh!t out when the regular season starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 The Seahawks got a jump on this week’s mandatory roster cut from 90 to 75 players on Monday by making nine roster moves; including placing rookie defensive tackle Jesse Williams on injured reserve. Jesse Williams’ rookie season with the Seahawks took a detour on Monday, when the Australian-born defensive tackle from Alabama who was selected in the fifth round of April’s NFL Draft was placed on injured reserve. The club also made eight other roster moves in getting a jump on the mandatory roster cut from 90 to 75 players that must be completed by Tuesday. The contract of veteran wide receiver Brett Swain was terminated, and seven players were released: linebackers Kyle Knox and Craig Wilkins, wide receiver Perez Ashford, tight ends Jameson Konz and Andrei Lintz, defensive tackle Martin Parker and snapper Kyle Nelson. The 6-foot-3, 325-pound Williams started the preseason opener against the San Diego Chargers at the three-technique tackle spot, but he has been bothered by a knee problem throughout training camp. Konz, a seventh-round draft choice in 2010, had been re-signed on July 30. Ashford, Lintz and Parker also were added to the roster during training camp, while Swain, Nelson and Wilkins were added during the offseason and prior to camp. Knox had been signed to a future contract in January. Monday’s moves means the club will have to make six more by Tuesday afternoon.  http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Seahawks-make-nine-roster-moves/336eb0fd-7df8-4e1c-862e-d38fc1dcdfd6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 Â Stop it. You are being silly right now. I said Green Bay with emotion, as if it was a playoff game, defensively. Yeah, they pulled Rodgers. I'm not denying that. But if you think Green Bay wasn't taking that game seriously defensively because of SF and Wash, and maybe to prove to themselves they can contain a mobile QB, then you are missing the forest for the trees. Teams rarely play with any urgency in preseason games. I saw a lot of hustle in Green Bay's defense. Â Hey, most teams don't blitz in the preseason. If you say Capers does it all the time, so be it. Seattle never adjusted to the blitzes. I wasn't seeing the delayed draws, the WR quick hitters, so it was open season on Wilson. Eh, whatever. Â I did not equate the penalties to emotion. I equated the penalties in the game to shitty officiating, mistakes by players, and a desire of the NFL to curtail physical play by calling an excessive amount of penalties on the more physical teams in the NFL as they continue to crack down on teams that hit hard to lessen future lawsuits. My thoughts and prayers are that they cut this sh!t out when the regular season starts. Sho Nuff_34 is crying like a biotch in Hawk threads all over the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Notes from Peter C. Carroll on ESPN 710 Seattle: Â James Carpenter back on the field today. Christine Michael is seriously challenging Turbin for the # 2 RB. Two players that have really flashed for PC: OT/OG Michael Bowie and TE Luke Willson. Cliff Avril tweak his hammy again last week. Who knows when he will get back on field. Â I think Z Miller is practicing again. OK, let's see how long Carpenter stays healthy this time around. Â I don't know if Girl's Name can beat out Turbin unless he blocks better. Turbin is more a Maurice Morris type of 3rd down back, who can catch a screen and turn up field with a head of steam. Michael's shiftiness makes him more ideal to fill in for Lynch if Lynch gets hurt. Girl's Name would be more ideal with more carries. Â Bowie and Bailey have really been impressive. I'm disappointed that we haven't seen much out of Avril yet. But with what we've seen out of Bennett and McDaniel, I'm very pleased by the free agency signing overall. Geez, we could soon be seeing Clemmons, McDaniel, Bennett, Avril rushing the QB, with guys like Mebane, Hill, Bryant also in the rotation/starting. God, that's scary in a good way as far as I'm concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Jesse Williams placed on IR. No link yet. Â Yeah, I expected that. Said it the other day. Too bad. He showed a lot of promise very early on. OK, let's get the knee healthy for next year, and maybe add some bulk/muscle mass to his chicken legs. At least we should see him again. Â Edit: none of the cuts so far are a surprise in any way. You know the front office is working the phones to see if they might be able to trade someone for a low round pick, and dig through the chum for possible additions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 26, 2013 Â I think Z Miller is practicing again. OK, let's see how long Carpenter stays healthy this time around. Â I don't know if Girl's Name can beat out Turbin unless he blocks better. Turbin is more a Maurice Morris type of 3rd down back, who can catch a screen and turn up field with a head of steam. Michael's shiftiness makes him more ideal to fill in for Lynch if Lynch gets hurt. Girl's Name would be more ideal with more carries. Â Bowie and Bailey have really been impressive. I'm disappointed that we haven't seen much out of Avril yet. But with what we've seen out of Bennett and McDaniel, I'm very pleased by the free agency signing overall. Geez, we could soon be seeing Clemmons, McDaniel, Bennett, Avril rushing the QB, with guys like Mebane, Hill, Bryant also in the rotation/starting. God, that's scary in a good way as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully both Irvin and Avril can log some downs this week against Oak. I agree, McDaniel was a pleasant surprise the other night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted August 26, 2013 Hawker, or anyone else. How'd McGrath and Wilson look? I'm looking for a deep sleeper at TE for my Dynasty team. (We have a big bench) If we move on from Miller next year, is there anything to see here? Vance McDonald out of S.F. also caught my eye, he's been dinged up though. Both caught passes on the first drive, and I didn't notice them much the rest of the way. Both blocked about the same. Willson has more upside to catch the ball and put up better numbers than McGrath. McGrath has a very low ceiling. If we lose Miller next year, we are in deep trouble at this position, although I guess Anthony McCoy is on the I/R still, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted August 26, 2013 Whoa.....Golden Tate has never impressed me. He was great in college when he was athletically better than DB's, but the NFL it's a lot more than just talent. Kearse is a lot better receiver than Tate. Rice is always hurt and Harvin is an all around beast, but by the time he comes back, Kearse will have established himself. Tate won't see the big payday, cause the Hawks won't need to pay him. Kearse and Harvin compliment each other well. There's your future. Now you just need Michael to become the feature back and your future is good!! I like Lynch, but RB's have a short shelf life...Michael is the stud in waiting. I never thought much of Tate until seeing him play last year. I was consistently impressed by his big play ability and hard running after the catch. He definitely seems to have figured something out as a pro. I think they'll do virtually everything with Tate that they would have done with Harvin (who I don't expect to be much of a factor until late in the season, if at all). Â 700 yards and 7 TDs last year and Seattle didn't really even open up their offense until around midseason. And now he's slated for a bigger workload, according to most reports out of camp. I would say a modest bump over last year's totals is his floor, and his upside is huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 26, 2013 Â Stop it. You are being silly right now. I said Green Bay with emotion, as if it was a playoff game, defensively. Yeah, they pulled Rodgers. I'm not denying that. But if you think Green Bay wasn't taking that game seriously defensively because of SF and Wash, and maybe to prove to themselves they can contain a mobile QB, then you are missing the forest for the trees. Teams rarely play with any urgency in preseason games. I saw a lot of hustle in Green Bay's defense. Â Hey, most teams don't blitz in the preseason. If you say Capers does it all the time, so be it. Seattle never adjusted to the blitzes. I wasn't seeing the delayed draws, the WR quick hitters, so it was open season on Wilson. Eh, whatever. Â I did not equate the penalties to emotion. I equated the penalties in the game to shitty officiating, mistakes by players, and a desire of the NFL to curtail physical play by calling an excessive amount of penalties on the more physical teams in the NFL as they continue to crack down on teams that hit hard to lessen future lawsuits. My thoughts and prayers are that they cut this sh!t out when the regular season starts. Â Again...most of the starters on defense were out there early as well. Or do you think Lloyce Means is going to make the team? Â I think they took the early part of the game seriously and were happy to play against a QB like Wilson in that game. But it was obvious that GB was not treating this as the usual dress rehearsal that some like the 3rd game to be. Â Not sure what you have been watching that most teams don't blitz...but your own team was blitzing quite often on defense as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites