The Frontrunner 1 Posted December 16, 2013 Ok, this morning I received a email from the other Championship team suggesting that we share the pot of 1st and 2nd. What the heck! My team is the top scoring team in the league, averaging over 100 points per week. I am very confident my team will win but you never know for sure. I say play it out and hope for 1st but be willing to accept 2nd. His proposal seems like youth sports where everyone gets a trophy. Anyone ever gotten this proposal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 16, 2013 What is difference in prize money? Is it all or nothing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtthom86 5 Posted December 16, 2013 It turned out that the two guys that made the finals in our league last year split the pot. They are close friends. They didn't tell me or my co-commish until we all hung out a couple months later. My take: its a limp-peen move. I didn't think they did anything wrong, and neither of us were mad about it and they are both in the league agian this year. But its certainly on the wrong side of sportsmanship and would never catch me agreeing to split the pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 16, 2013 It turned out that the two guys that made the finals in our league last year split the pot. They are close friends. They didn't tell me or my co-commish until we all hung out a couple months later. My take: its a limp-peen move. I didn't think they did anything wrong, and neither of us were mad about it and they are both in the league agian this year. But its certainly on the wrong side of sportsmanship and would never catch me agreeing to split the pot. If it was 10k or nothing you wouldn't split? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bag-O-Bones 5 Posted December 16, 2013 It happens more than you would think. Our league is 80 / 20 to 1st and 2nd the difference is fairly large. $4,200 is collected, 14 teams $300 per team; less draft party expenses which can total $1,000 easy. $3,200 at 80% is $2,560 vs $640. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 16, 2013 It happens more than you would think. Our league is 80 / 20 to 1st and 2nd the difference is fairly large. $4,200 is collected, 14 teams $300 per team; less draft party expenses which can total $1,000 easy. $3,200 at 80% is $2,560 vs $640. I would split $3200 in a heartbeat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bag-O-Bones 5 Posted December 16, 2013 I would split $3200 in a heartbeat For most of us in the league, going on 25 years now (started in 1989) it's not bout the money. That usually goes to the wives, its more about talking for the next 12 months. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted December 16, 2013 I've had the same proposed to me. $500 for first and $300 for second, so I elected not to split. If the payout was larger (like a couple gs) then I might reconsider, but I'm more the 'you start yours and I'll start mine and let the chips fall where they may' kinda guy. It's logical for certain, just not usually worthy one imo. Some are fine with that and others are very against it. YMMV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTL99 34 Posted December 16, 2013 Well, the money belongs to 1st and 2nd. They can do WHATEVER they want with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted December 16, 2013 My old league grew into a pretty spendy league... was about $13k in prize money. Chopping the pot happened about a quarter/third of our seasons. Happens in poker tourney's all the time... but that's more about saving time. I try to refrain from making derogatory comments about what people do with their money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 16, 2013 For most of us in the league, going on 25 years now (started in 1989) it's not bout the money. That usually goes to the wives, its more about talking ###### for the next 12 months. You still play the game you still get glory duh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtthom86 5 Posted December 16, 2013 I'm in two leagues, the first is spilt 70/30 and the second is 60/30/10. Wouldn't split under under any total dollar amount. All or nothing? Unless we are talking thousands I wouldn't split it either. In ten years of fantasy sports I've never been in an all or nothing pot. If your team it to the finals your doing something right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpbuddha 9 Posted December 16, 2013 In my league 4 teams make the playoffs. 3 divisions. Top team from each division and best record of remaining teams make it. My team was the wild card team, so I was put up against the highest ranking division winner (also from my division). Well he and I were far and away #1 and #2 in points scored for the season so it's kinda sh!tty that we have to match up in the first round and one of us will be knocked into the consolation pool. Because of this we made a deal where if one of us wins the entire league, that person will fork over a small portion of the winnings to the other guy. The difference between winning the league and 4th place is $750 or $50. So we agreed that being the two best teams and possibly ending up with $50 would not be right. If The winner this week loses next week then we just keep what we each earned in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 16, 2013 In my money league this year, I've already got $150.00 (10 teams @ $60) for Regular season champ (#1 seed} so I'm already in the black. The SB Champ gets $250 and the runner up gets $150 so I won't be entertaining a split for that. Not big money by any means but not bad for a friends league. Whoever wins the actual match will STILL have bragging rights. If it were all or none for a $1,000 or more, focking A bubba I'd split that in a heartbeat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connorsdad 38 Posted December 16, 2013 On occasion I've had people split the 1st & 2nd prize money. Don't see anything wrong with it. If both people agree they deserve to do what they want with the money. Who am I to tell them no. They have to get a certain % ? But if either decides to not split then yeah 80/20. The two in the finals should get to decide. In the leagues I'm the commish we all know each other and it's not really about the money. That's just icing on the cake. It's more about bragging rights. But I can see that around Christmas time splitting the money is a good idea both teams get a nice chunk of change for the holidays both people happy. Good Luck ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xbishopx 6 Posted December 16, 2013 Exactly, if it's not thousands what's the point. It will be the only time you feel like crap for winning, thinking damn I could have had x amount more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtthom86 5 Posted December 16, 2013 In my league 4 teams make the playoffs. 3 divisions. Top team from each division and best record of remaining teams make it. My team was the wild card team, so I was put up against the highest ranking division winner (also from my division). Well he and I were far and away #1 and #2 in points scored for the season so it's kinda sh!tty that we have to match up in the first round and one of us will be knocked into the consolation pool. Because of this we made a deal where if one of us wins the entire league, that person will fork over a small portion of the winnings to the other guy. The difference between winning the league and 4th place is $750 or $50. So we agreed that being the two best teams and possibly ending up with $50 would not be right. If The winner this week loses next week then we just keep what we each earned in the playoffs. My league is set up the same way, with each team in the division playing each other twice (6 games) and the other divisions once (8 games). We institued a seeding rule like the MLB where the wildcard can't play a team in its own division round one after the first year. Everyone agreed it was a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 62 Posted December 16, 2013 It happens more than you would think. Our league is 80 / 20 to 1st and 2nd the difference is fairly large. $4,200 is collected, 14 teams $300 per team; less draft party expenses which can total $1,000 easy. $3,200 at 80% is $2,560 vs $640. Wow, I'd say screw the $1000 draft party. I'm sure your leaguemates are real cool to hang out with, but I'd rather that money stay in the pot so I can win it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Fiend 38 Posted December 16, 2013 Yea ours is $800 for second and $1700 for first. So $2500 which I have elected not to split.....all in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frontrunner 1 Posted December 16, 2013 The total pot for 1st and 2nd is only $775---450 for 1st, 325 for 2nd. So we're not getting rich but i'd rather play it out and that's what I think i'm going to tell him. If it was a bigger pot with a larger difference then I would possibly agree. So thanks for all the feedback! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted December 16, 2013 Wow, I'd say screw the $1000 draft party. I'm sure your leaguemates are real cool to hang out with, but I'd rather that money stay in the pot so I can win it. Sounds like a helluva party though. Some people/leagues are more about the friendship, shiat-talking, and pride than the money... and some of those leagues have owners with enough disposable income that throwing down an extra $100 for a league party is nothing. "It's not a real draft party 'til somebody starts getting pick advice from the strippers." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 16, 2013 I would offer to double down. Make it all or nothing rather than 50-50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamageIncVacc 6 Posted December 16, 2013 Our league is around $1,200 and the official line is 2nd place gets $75 and winner gets the rest but every year its usually a 75-25 or 60-40 split. I won the last 2 years and we did a 60-40 split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shakey210 10 Posted December 17, 2013 I would never split the pot outright... I would offer to make the payout within a few hundred dollars (depending on the total prize amount). You never know what is going to happen in fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grateful Parrot 0 Posted December 17, 2013 For most of us in the league, going on 25 years now (started in 1989) it's not bout the money. That usually goes to the wives, its more about talking ###### for the next 12 months. This. It's never been about the money in our league, it's about smack 12 months long. Loser this..Lose that..Dumbass coach...Dumbass draft...it's all about the smack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Hook 6 Posted December 17, 2013 So many people on this board talk about FF being luck. If you say it is luck then you split. If you think it is skill then you have to think your skill will take you to the promise land. You do not split. I am on the side of luck and take the split every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManitowocDave 1 Posted December 17, 2013 I've always split the Championship pot except for one time where the other guy declined the offer......thank goodness I beat him and took the entire pot (only the Champ won the money in that league). I always chop the pot when I play poker tournaments in Vegas, too. If I'm making more money than I put in, I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dennis29 6 Posted December 17, 2013 Splitting the pot doesn't bother me. But we have a guy in our league who'll bust the splitters' balls for the entire draft the following season if he gets wind there was a split. "Well, since we didn't have a champion last season!!!..." "No name on the championship trophy for last season!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50 Posted December 17, 2013 You still play the game you still get glory duh Glory is weakened if you split. I don't like it. Why even play the last game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,612 Posted December 17, 2013 GFB free leagues with great friends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted December 17, 2013 My take: its a limp-peen move. But its certainly on the wrong side of sportsmanship and would never catch me agreeing to split the pot. how judgmental of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted December 18, 2013 I have heard of it but in my league it's never come up as far as I know. The dif between $700 and $500 is not enough to make worth the while. I have no issue with it. The money is a bonus, the trophy is for bragging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slippyer 3 Posted December 18, 2013 I split it. Pot is small as well, I'd rather guarantee myself a bit more. I do not see what the big deal is. The team that wins is the champion still. Not about the $ in our league as the pot is quite small. It's about winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted December 18, 2013 Splitting the pot doesn't bother me. But we have a guy in our league who'll bust the splitters' balls for the entire draft the following season if he gets wind there was a split. "Well, since we didn't have a champion last season!!!..." "No name on the championship trophy for last season!!!" Tell him to get into the championship then... and there won't be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted December 18, 2013 So many people on this board talk about FF being luck. If you say it is luck then you split. If you think it is skill then you have to think your skill will take you to the promise land. You do not split. I am on the side of luck and take the split every time. Same here, I think it's all luck so of course I'll take the split. Also talking over fantasy? lol that sounds like a group of beta males to begin with. I dunno why anybody would put up with it. I do it at the request of friends sometimes because I'm really good at it, but if you've got high achieving friends eventually nobody will want anything to do with you over it, and it just becomes a sort of understanding that everybody just shuts up. I've never actually met anybody that can take the talk, everybody just wants to dish it then gets all hurt and angry when they get talked back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting 4 a Championship 0 Posted December 18, 2013 I have been in five title games in the last four years, I've been offered to split the pot by the team that I was favored against. I mean I was a big favorite, and was able to win all three times. The two times I was not the favorite I was NOT contacted about splitting the pot and have no desire to approach the other with that offer either. Won one and lost one. Seems to me only from experience that the underdog wants to reach out and salvage more money when they don't think that they could take the title. just my $.02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Muffin Man 6 Posted December 19, 2013 Manage the delta. We have a $2,000 championship game where first gets $1,500 and second gets $500. Last year, the two teams in the championship had pretty even teams. They both agreed to guarantee themselves $800 and play for the extra $400. It doesn't have to be a 50/50 proposition or nothing! As commish, I told them I would cut checks based on the by-laws and you can settle up amongst yourselves but I had no problem w/ what they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 19, 2013 usually dont agree with it unless disparity is a lot. Guy in my office split it in one cause first was 1150 and 2nd was 200. Makes sense to do something there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted December 19, 2013 I got a possible offer from the Peyton-Charles owner. I scored 190 last week and he 150. First place is 1,000 2nd is 350. Think I'm gonna play it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotec 31 Posted December 19, 2013 I split it. Pot is small as well, I'd rather guarantee myself a bit more. I do not see what the big deal is. The team that wins is the champion still. Not about the $ in our league as the pot is quite small. It's about winning. If it's NOT about the money, then there is LESS reason to split. Why do you want to split this tiny pot unless that tiny difference actually DOES mean something to you? It's not anything for other league members to worry about IMO, but it's a limp wristed fear based move for people with no balls. Just my opinion of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites