DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 Team A and Team B are two new owners in our league. I believe they may be friends or know each other, but I'm not certain. Both teams play in the same division in a 12 team league. Team A is sitting at a (2-1) record, and Team B is sitting at (0-3). The trade below is as follows (the team refers to TEAM Quarterback). Team A (2-1) Trade Away: Washington Redskins (WAS) Rashad Jennings (NYG) C.J. Spiller (BUF) Team B (0-3) Trade Away: New England Patriots (NWE) LeSean McCoy (PHI) Toby Gerhart (JAC) Now, I'm not one to veto a trade, but this one stinks heavily in favour of a team giving their friend the best RB in the league. I know McCoy has underperformed, but come on. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 25, 2014 For the hundredth time... No. Ton of speculation and you are over valuing McCoy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted September 25, 2014 Nothing to see here. Totally fine trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philo312 41 Posted September 25, 2014 Nothing wrong with that trade. Team B is trading for a RB which will help him win NOW. it's fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skoal2k4 15 Posted September 25, 2014 Team B won the trade edit... misread the original post. Team B won the trade by picking up 3 solid picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,823 Posted September 25, 2014 Team A and Team B are two new owners in our league. I believe they may be friends or know each other, but I'm not certain. Both teams play in the same division in a 12 team league. Team A is sitting at a (2-1) record, and Team B is sitting at (0-3). The trade below is as follows (the team refers to TEAM Quarterback). Team A (2-1) Trade Away: Washington Redskins (WAS) Rashad Jennings (NYG) C.J. Spiller (BUF) Team B (0-3) Trade Away: New England Patriots (NWE) LeSean McCoy (PHI) Toby Gerhart (JAC) Now, I'm not one to veto a trade, but this one stinks heavily in favour of a ###### team giving their friend the best RB in the league. I know McCoy has underperformed, but come on. Thoughts? Really dude? Wtf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 Really dude? Wtf Really dude? Wtf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 Team A won the trade Clearly, that's the way I see it. Cousins will come back down to earth, I'd rather have Brady. Jennings will be outperformed by McCoy by the end of the season. Spiller and Gerhart are a wash imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skoal2k4 15 Posted September 25, 2014 Clearly, that's the way I see it. Cousins will come back down to earth, I'd rather have Brady. Jennings will be outperformed by McCoy by the end of the season. Spiller and Gerhart are a wash imo. yeah... i misread who got who... thought Team A was getting those players and I completely overlooked the Trade AWAY part. Brady is washed up. I'd rather have Cousins. He can run that offense beautifully. McCoy will outperform Jennings, that much is true. Spiller will also have a lot of games where he's slightly better than Gerhart, but he'll also have quite a few where he scores 10-15 more points than Gerhart... that is not a wash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,966 Posted September 25, 2014 I prefer team A's situation hands down Gerhart is useless, completely, so take him out of the trade Brady is useless, completely so take him out of the trade Team A is getting Cousins, Jennings and Spiller for Mccoy thats a heavily favored trade on A's part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobby heenan 60 Posted September 25, 2014 Clearly, that's the way I see it. Cousins will come back down to earth, I'd rather have Brady. Jennings will be outperformed by McCoy by the end of the season. Spiller and Gerhart are a wash imo. Listen man...in any trade involving multiple players, with qbs, and some big names....yer always gonna have an opinion on it and feel one team is getting the better side.....it doesn't mean it's "collusion" After week 1 in a 10 team ppr high stakes league I'm in....a guy traded forte and Jordan reed (who was hurt but included to make it even swap) for Gronk and Pierre thomas.....and I know these guys are friends....now I have an opinion on which guy won and whom I think is an idiot....but I didn't think twice about voting yes to let it go through Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 I prefer team A's situation hands down Gerhart is useless, completely, so take him out of the trade Brady is useless, completely so take him out of the trade Team A is getting Cousins, Jennings and Spiller for Mccoy thats a heavily favored trade on A's part Sorry, TEAM A is trading those players away. Team A is the one getting Brady, McCoy and Gerhart. But I take your point, you prefer Team B's situation (quantity over quality in this case). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 Listen man...in any trade involving multiple players, with qbs, and some big names....yer always gonna have an opinion on it and feel one team is getting the better side.....it doesn't mean it's "collusion" After week 1 in a 10 team ppr high stakes league I'm in....a guy traded forte and Jordan reed (who was hurt but included to make it even swap) for Gronk and Pierre thomas.....and I know these guys are friends....now I have an opinion on which guy won and whom I think is an idiot....but I didn't think twice about voting yes to let it go through I'm not the commish of the league, and I don't intend to formally object, as it's already gone through. I just wondered what other people though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted September 25, 2014 OP = :cry: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twofewbraincell 7 Posted September 25, 2014 At first I thought those were defenses and it looked lopsided but now that I understand they are QBs I really feel like it's a stretch to complain on either side. One team is getting players he can start while the other is probably unloading depth for who he probably sees as the best RB in the league. I think a QB1 RB1 and RB2 might be too much to give up for McCoy on paper but I'm a fan of McCoy and have never had him on a roster so I'd probably pay that for him if I had the depth. I think Cousins, Jennings and Spiller will easily put up more fantasy points ths season then Brady, McCoy and Gerhart. You are probably irritated by it because you think McCoy is the player that makes team A a top contender. IMO that's the point of trading. Both teams got better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmr8188 2 Posted September 25, 2014 The 0-3 team is looking to win at least a game to contend. If you are sitting in a hole like that you've got to do something quick to get a win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted September 25, 2014 Looks like one of the most fair trades I've ever seen. What I am missing here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,966 Posted September 25, 2014 Sorry, TEAM A is trading those players away. Team A is the one getting Brady, McCoy and Gerhart. But I take your point, you prefer Team B's situation (quantity over quality in this case). oh got the teams wrong then, but I dont see this as quantity over quality. Hes getting a top 10 RB, a top 10 QB and a lotto ticket in Spiller, while only giving up a lackluster Shady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted September 25, 2014 OP got manhandled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotec 31 Posted September 25, 2014 Team A and Team B are two new owners in our league. I believe they may be friends or know each other, but I'm not certain. Both teams play in the same division in a 12 team league. Team A is sitting at a (2-1) record, and Team B is sitting at (0-3). The trade below is as follows (the team refers to TEAM Quarterback). Team A (2-1) Trade Away: Washington Redskins (WAS) Rashad Jennings (NYG) C.J. Spiller (BUF) Team B (0-3) Trade Away: New England Patriots (NWE) LeSean McCoy (PHI) Toby Gerhart (JAC) Now, I'm not one to veto a trade, but this one stinks heavily in favour of a ###### team giving their friend the best RB in the league. I know McCoy has underperformed, but come on. Thoughts? Redskins>NE Shady>Jennings Spiller>Honky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 OP got manhandled Wasn't my trade man. Nobody trades with the top team in the league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 oh got the teams wrong then, but I dont see this as quantity over quality. Hes getting a top 10 RB, a top 10 QB and a lotto ticket in Spiller, while only giving up a lackluster Shady For now, I think by the end of the year there is no way Shady doesn't outperform Jennings. Spiller will always be feast or famine, depending ont he whims of Buffalo coaching staff, and their love of old-ass Fred Jackson. When people were screaming, "Why isn't Spiller the starter?" now we're seeing why. I think Cousins will plummet back to earth at some point, and Brady will end up being a mid tier QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 Well fair enough you guys have convinced me it's just a shitty trade and not collusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted September 25, 2014 It looks fine to me. Cousins arguable better than Brady Rashad is one of the top scoring rbs right now so him vs Mcoy can be seen as ok. Spiller has some value while gerhart has almost none so thats fine. I can see the pause for concern but the trade is fine and def not collusion. Even if it was collusion, its not league breaking collusion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 914 Posted September 25, 2014 Peyton Manning for a kicker type trades = collusion All other trades are legit in my book no matter how lopsided. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 25, 2014 Seems like a guy buying low on McCoy and one thinking Jennings is the real deal. Wouldn't even call it sh!tty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 231 Posted September 25, 2014 I think. Bottom line? This sums it all up. This is what YOU think. Maybe not what others think. Collusion is McCoy for Gerhart. Not this. Brady has looked like straight crap. Cousins has not. Even if YOU think Cousins will come down and Brady will suddenly be good again. McCoy has been average at best while Jennings has looked great. Even if YOU think otherwise. Spiller is up and down and Gerhart (as an owner) does suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgs316 14 Posted September 25, 2014 I moved Peterson two games into the 2011 for McCoy and Wallace, everyone said I was insane, blah, blah, blah. This trade is a wash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted September 25, 2014 The fact that everyone is debating on who won the trade means it's not VETO worthy. Looks fair to me. Jennings could easily outperform McCoy. It's def not collusion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 The fact that everyone is debating on who won the trade means it's not VETO worthy. Looks fair to me. Jennings could easily outperform McCoy. It's def not collusion. Mmm maybe not on the face of it, however I can pretty much guarantee this trade wouldn't have happened if the 2 owners weren't friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skoal2k4 15 Posted September 25, 2014 Mmm maybe not on the face of it, however I can pretty much guarantee this trade wouldn't have happened if the 2 owners weren't friends. how? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,966 Posted September 25, 2014 Mmm maybe not on the face of it, however I can pretty much guarantee this trade wouldn't have happened if the 2 owners weren't friends. how so? and who cares if they are friends? I make that trade for Cousins, Jennings and Spiller if I am 0-3 I make that trade for Mccoy, Brady and Gerhart if I am 3-0 and have another solid QB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,228 Posted September 25, 2014 YES!! I would be so mad if I were you I might even burn down someone's house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 how? Call it a suspicion. I tried to trade with the 2-1 owner early in the year and didn't even get any response at all, and this was after he was complaining about his QB on the message board (RG3 at the time). Not even a rejection of the trade mind you, but no response whatsoever. Now the trade may be fair, however 2 guys come to a new draft together then make a big trade in week 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skoal2k4 15 Posted September 25, 2014 Call it a suspicion. I tried to trade with the 2-1 owner early in the year and didn't even get any response at all, and this was after he was complaining about his QB on the message board (RG3 at the time). Not even a rejection of the trade mind you, but no response whatsoever. Now the trade may be fair, however 2 guys come to a new draft together then make a big trade in week 4. That isn't a guarantee... maybe the guy just doesn't like you. That's no reason to start calling out collusion. This situation is looking more and more like you wanted McCoy and now you're upset that you didn't get him and he was traded to someone else What was your trade offer to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 231 Posted September 25, 2014 I am out of this whine fest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 25, 2014 Well fair enough you guys have convinced me it's just a shitty trade and not collusion. I don't know, I have been thinking this trade over the past 5 hours and the more I think about it... It could be collusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 25, 2014 I am out of this whine fest. Good thanks for coming here to post that. Feel free to never enter my threads again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 25, 2014 Good thanks for coming here to post that. Feel free to never enter my threads again. I think by starting this thread you will get your wish from many on this sites. Don't be a b!tch then whine when people call you one. Deuces. Enjoy your league. Sounds awesome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted September 25, 2014 Team A (2-1) Trade Away: Washington Redskins (WAS) Rashad Jennings (NYG) C.J. Spiller (BUF) Team B (0-3) Trade Away: New England Patriots (NWE) LeSean McCoy (PHI) Toby Gerhart (JAC) Is balanced as it can be Washington QB / Spiller for McCoy is the deal. Team B looks to improve and be competitive afterwards. this is the kind of trade you should be wanting to see in your league. BTW Brady should retire now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
