NewbieJr 540 Posted February 10, 2015 This is like the greatest QB of all-time. There can be no wrong answer, because it's not something that can be accurately determined. It's each member's opinion. Mine: Clinton Reagan Obama The smart Bush Nixon Ford Carter GW Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 10, 2015 This is like the greatest QB of all-time. There can be no wrong answer, because it's not something that can be accurately determined. It's each member's opinion. Mine: Clinton Reagan Obama The smart Bush Nixon Ford Carter GW Bush Drop Obama around Ford (Nixon wqs a year before my time). Reagan and Clinton about equal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 269 Posted February 10, 2015 Reagan Nixon Bush 43 Bush 41 Ford Clinton LBJ Carter Obummer hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 10, 2015 Clinton H.W. Obama Reagan Carter W Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 10, 2015 Clinton and the smart Bush are the only ones worth a Damn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted February 10, 2015 Martin van buren is going to be low in phurfurs list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 10, 2015 Clinton and the smart Bush are the only ones worth a Damn Born in 1996? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 10, 2015 Reagan Bush sr Bush Jr Carter Clinton Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 10, 2015 Born in 1996? I said the smart Bush. Until Bush 41 passes away, he's the smart one. Not sure after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 10, 2015 Reagan Bush sr Bush Jr Carter Clinton Obama Credibility shot if you can't put Clinton above W Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted February 10, 2015 1. Bush the first one 2. Clinton 3. Regan There's noone worth ranking after that ... I was born in 73 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 10, 2015 Credibility shot if you can't put Clinton above W sorry, signing the bill that sent the majority of our mfg to China is a biggie to me. He single handedly destroyed mfg jobs. Many like to ignore this fact of his legacy, I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 864 Posted February 10, 2015 reagan bush sr bush jr clinton carter obama (worst by far) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 10, 2015 sorry, signing the bill that sent the majority of our mfg to China is a biggie to me. He single handedly destroyed mfg jobs. Many like to ignore this fact of his legacy, I don't. Like you would have put him above anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 10, 2015 You can tell the hacks by how high they rank W Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 10, 2015 You can tell the hacks by how high they rank W Yep. If W isn't last then you're either a hack or really, really old. (Or both, in Phurfur's case.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 10, 2015 You can tell the hacks by if they don't have Obama at the bottom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 10, 2015 Like you would have put him above anyway.what do you care ya focking weirdo ...I woulda put obama higher but the weight of your mouth on his ball bag prevented it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 10, 2015 You can tell the hacks when they don't have obama at the bottom. Wow this is easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted February 10, 2015 You can tell the hacks by how high they rank W Or how high they have Obama... They both suck/sucked. Carter,W,Obama were/are 3 of the 5-8 worst POTUS maybe ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 10, 2015 Reagan Clinton Bush Sr. Bush Jr. Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 10, 2015 Or how high they have Obama... They both suck/sucked. Carter,W,Obama were/are 3 of the 5-8 worst POTUS maybe ever. Sure...not sure worms wants to talk about credibility while putting Obama over Reagan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 10, 2015 what do you care ya focking weirdo ...I woulda put obama higher but the weight of your mouth on his ball bag prevented it. Fail again...yeah, by saying he is down with guys like Carter just above him and Bush...im all over his sack. You must never tire of being wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted February 10, 2015 Sure...not sure worms wants to talk about credibility while putting Obama over Reagan. I give Reagan credit for havign the sense to surround himself with the best people he could barring 1 or 2. But other than that Reagan was just a good speaker and gets more credit than he should as this GREAT POTUS. HW was the best and to me it isn't close - I don't think there was ever a POTUS more prepared to be POTUS than HW - on top of that he KNEW to get the fock out of the middle east when the job was done - I put him right there with Ike , JFK, FDR, and Teddy. I liked Clinton as well - he knew how to play the game and knew when to just sh!t can Health care reform when it's clear it wasn't wanted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 10, 2015 Sure...not sure worms wants to talk about credibility while putting Obama over Reagan. You're probably right but I blame Reagan thrusting the pandoras box wide open on deficit spending, and I happen to think Obamacare was a generational achievement. That's my rationale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 10, 2015 You're probably right but I blame Reagan thrusting the pandoras box wide open on deficit spending, and I happen to think Obamacare was a generational achievement. That's my rationale So you rank Obama higher than Reagan based on deficits??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted February 10, 2015 You're probably right but I blame Reagan thrusting the pandoras box wide open on deficit spending, and I happen to think Obamacare was a generational achievement. That's my rationale I agree Reagan wasn't nearly as good as his legend dictates - but Obama ... come on man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 10, 2015 So you rank Obama higher than Reagan based on deficits??? Every president since Ronny Reagan has run substantial deficits. That's the whole point, focktard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 10, 2015 I give Reagen credit for saving social security by doubling the contributions in to it. And taking away all of those tax deductions that mostly affected middle class people. And cutting and running in Beirut and fundin the Taliban, and giving Arms to Iran. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 10, 2015 Every president since Ronny Reagan has run substantial deficits. That's the whole point, focktard Deficits have been around for long before Reagan took office. Compare Reagan's deficits to Obama's, in both real dollars and as a percent of GDP and get back to me. In short, educate yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 10, 2015 You're probably right but I blame Reagan thrusting the pandoras box wide open on deficit spending, and I happen to think Obamacare was a generational achievement. That's my rationale He won the frigging Cold War and ushered in an unparalleled leap in economic production and quality of life. Deficit spending has driven our economic growth for better or worse. What we really argue about is what the 'right' deficit spending is and to what extent. I don't think people want any part of government being incentivized to collect surplus it controls. Nor would they prefer to quality of life degradation that would occur with wholesale balanced budgets. It's time value of money. If your deficit spending induces growth and controlled inflation it devalues the debt and in effect pays it off as everything else grows. That is the goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,911 Posted February 10, 2015 I'd be really tempted to put Bush Sr 1st. I've got Reagan and Clinton roughly equal. Massive drop off from there to Obummer. Drop off to Carter. Bush is the worst. I won't rank Ford since I was like 3 when he left office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,567 Posted February 10, 2015 Clinton Reagan H.W. Nixon*** Obummer Ford*** Carter*** W ***too young to remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 989 Posted February 11, 2015 1. Ronald Reagan (Rappin' Ron) 2. Richard Nixon 3. George Bush 4. George W Bush 5. Gerald Ford 6. Bill Clinton 7. Barrack Hussein Obama 8. Jimmy Carter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,335 Posted February 11, 2015 He won the frigging Cold War and ushered in an unparalleled leap in economic production and quality of life. Deficit spending has driven our economic growth for better or worse. What we really argue about is what the 'right' deficit spending is and to what extent. I don't think people want any part of government being incentivized to collect surplus it controls. Nor would they prefer to quality of life degradation that would occur with wholesale balanced budgets. It's time value of money. If your deficit spending induces growth and controlled inflation it devalues the debt and in effect pays it off as everything else grows. That is the goal You make some solid points. OK, Reagan ahead of Obummer, but W dead last by a country mile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,652 Posted February 11, 2015 Well, thetes Ike... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted February 11, 2015 People who put Obama ahead of Reagan simply aren't capable of grown up conversations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 11, 2015 People who think Reagan "won" the Cold War are dillusional. It's one of the silliest attributes ever given to anyone. I guess Nixon won the race to the moon too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,652 Posted February 11, 2015 pop quiz, what does bin Laden viewed as the single event in his life that shaped his motivation for 911? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted February 11, 2015 People who think Reagan "won" the Cold War are dillusional. It's one of the silliest attributes ever given to anyone. I guess Nixon won the race to the moon too. All the dude did was give us the largest economic growth in American history. His policies created 18 million jobs, doubled revenues, doubled the GDP, lowered inflation from 13% to 3%, and his military spending was one of the main reasons for the collapse of the Soviet Union. All with a Democratic controlled Congress that gobbled up every new dollar that came in. The unemployment rate had dropped to 5.5% by 1988. No big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites