2015 All-Star Ballot Updates...

[posty 2,849]

cmh has been very busy...

[nzoner 939]

I wasn't saying some don't belong on the team I just dont think there is a single all-star starter on that team. Maybe Escobar. Donaldson at 3rd, Vogt should be the catcher. Kipnis should be 2nd. Fielder at 1st. Outfield Trout, Jones and Reddick. Cruz at DH.

I think you're basing that on offensive numbers only,just my .02 KC's defense is focking awesome and no way in hell does Miggy make a play like that at first.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

I wasn't saying some don't belong on the team I just dont think there is a single all-star starter on that team. Maybe Escobar.

 

No, just no. Iglesias is not only the best defensive shortstop in the AL, but he also leads AL shortstops in BA, OBP, and OPS.

 

Iglesias: .329/.379/.409

Escobar: .262/.293/.354

 

I think you're basing that on offensive numbers only,just my .02 KC's defense is focking awesome and no way in hell does Miggy make a play like that at first.

 

You may be exaggerating a touch there (if you break out a replay of Hosmer making a defensive play that required a ton of range, definitely that would make a point). This play is at least as impressive as the one you posted...

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/v118134183/detstl-miggy-doubles-up-kozma-after-foul-catch/?query=miguel+cabrera

http://m.mlb.com/video/v102669283/detcws-miggy-turns-a-quick-dp-on-eatons-grounder/?query=miguel+cabrera

 

tl;dr - Cabrera isn't a Gold Glove at first base, but he uses his glove just fine, and he certainly holds the hitting edge.

 

If you believe in DRS, Hosmer is worth 2 runs more than Cabrera (7th in MLB at 1B vs 15th) in the field so far this year. It is hard to argue that Cabrera hasn't more than compensated for that at the plate.

[crackattack 520]

I think you're basing that on offensive numbers only,just my .02 KC's defense is focking awesome and no way in hell does Miggy make a play like that at first.

I am. Offense counts about 90% of my decision. All-star games need great hitters to go against great pitchers. I don't want great defenders, but horrible at the plate, going against all-star caliber pitchers. So I agree my choices are mostly about offense.

[crackattack 520]

 

No, just no. Iglesias is not only the best defensive shortstop in the AL, but he also leads AL shortstops in BA, OBP, and OPS.

 

Iglesias: .329/.379/.409

Escobar: .262/.293/.354

He's actually who I voted for at ss.

[nzoner 939]

 

No, just no. Iglesias is not only the best defensive shortstop in the AL, but he also leads AL shortstops in BA, OBP, and OPS.

 

Iglesias: .329/.379/.409

Escobar: .262/.293/.354

 

 

You may be exaggerating a touch there (if you break out a replay of Hosmer making a defensive play that required a ton of range, definitely that would make a point). This play is at least as impressive as the one you posted...

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/v118134183/detstl-miggy-doubles-up-kozma-after-foul-catch/?query=miguel+cabrera

http://m.mlb.com/video/v102669283/detcws-miggy-turns-a-quick-dp-on-eatons-grounder/?query=miguel+cabrera

 

tl;dr - Cabrera isn't a Gold Glove at first base, but he uses his glove just fine, and he certainly holds the hitting edge.

 

If you believe in DRS, Hosmer is worth 2 runs more than Cabrera (7th in MLB at 1B vs 15th) in the field so far this year. It is hard to argue that Cabrera hasn't more than compensated for that at the plate.

Don't get me wrong I love watching Miggy play and even though I may be a bit biased I'll submit these

 

 

 

[ZeroTolerance 584]

I can believe Hosmer is better defensively, but (being first base and all) the numbers don't paint it as an overwhelming difference. Meanwhile, Cabrera has Hosmer covered in BA/OBP/SLG/OPS...

 

I would argue that Cain's defense pushes him into a starting OF spot. Gordon probably shouldn't be ahead of Cespedes, who is even with him in DRS and ahead of Gordon in UZR, while also covering him at the plate.

[posty 2,849]

American League - June 15

 

CATCHER

1. Salvador Perez, Royals: 7,202,292

2. Stephen Vogt, A's: 3,260,864

3. Russell Martin, Blue Jays: 2,225,889

4. Brian McCann, Yankees: 1,154,530

5. Alex Avila, Tigers: 868,321

 

FIRST BASE

1. Eric Hosmer, Royals: 5,777,363

2. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers: 5,301,216

3. Prince Fielder, Rangers: 1,794,589

4. Mark Teixeira, Yankees: 1,032,924

5. Albert Pujols, Angels: 931,585

 

SECOND BASE

1. Omar Infante, Royals: 4,518,765

2. Jose Altuve, Astros: 4,209,702

3. Jason Kipnis, Indians: 1,859,756

4. Ian Kinsler, Tigers: 1,632,770

5. Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox: 1,210,882

 

THIRD BASE

1. Mike Moustakas, Royals: 6,505,258

2. Josh Donaldson, Blue Jays: 4,880,315

3. Nick Castellanos, Tigers: 923,589

4. Adrian Beltre, Rangers: 908,343

5. Manny Machado, Orioles: 881,635

 

SHORTSTOP

1. Alcides Escobar, Royals: 6,332,981

2. Jose Iglesias, Tigers: 3,491,530

3. Jose Reyes, Blue Jays: 1,649,076

4. Marcus Semien, A's: 1,132,210

5. Jed Lowrie, Astros: 978,177

 

OUTFIELD

1. Lorenzo Cain, Royals: 6,611,781

2. Mike Trout, Angels: 5,944,068

3. Alex Gordon, Royals: 5,581,096

4. Alex Rios, Royals: 3,952,551

5. Adam Jones, Orioles: 3,248,559

6. Yoenis Cespedes, Tigers: 3,165,784

7. Jose Bautista, Blue Jays: 2,794,526

8. Michael Brantley, Indians: 2,101,577

9. Jacoby Ellsbury, Yankees: 1,788,449

10. Josh Reddick, A's: 1,517,538

11. Hanley Ramirez, Red Sox: 1,188,662

12. J.D. Martinez, Tigers: 1,172,305

13. Rajai Davis, Tigers: 1,073,790

14. Torii Hunter, Twins: 1,041,097

15. Carlos Beltran, Yankees: 1,012,302

 

DESIGNATED HITTER

1. Kendrys Morales, Royals: 5,422,250

2. Nelson Cruz, Mariners: 4,873,273

3. Edwin Encarnacion, Blue Jays: 1,430,262

4. Victor Martinez, Tigers: 1,188,737

5. Alex Rodriguez, Yankees: 1,176,506

[ZeroTolerance 584]

Omar Infante gets 2 million votes in one week. But hey, like Ned Yost said...if you don't want his players on the team, vote. Then create another account and vote. Then create another account and vote. Then...

[swirvenirvin 25]

DUMB

 

Omar Infante is batting .200

 

It was cute when you made the WS last yr and lost. Now no one likes you.

[NewbieJr 541]

It makes a mockery of the whole process. Once it's decided that the fans can't handle it, it'll be taken away from them.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

It makes a mockery of the whole process. Once it's decided that the fans can't handle it, it'll be taken away from them.

MLB is getting millions of hits on their voting site. I would not say they are displeased.

[RLLD 4,282]

They seems to be heading down the path to become the P*tri*ts of MLB. I am sure the sponsors love the fact that the site is getting hits and that its becoming a story, because then maybe other fans in other cities will hit the site to try and mitigate the perversion.

 

It is a shame that this can happen, but the reason it can happen is because MLB built a flawed system to try and be cute and win more sponsor money.

[nzoner 939]

As a KC fan I have not voted nor will I.Infante has no focking business there and unfortunately if he ends up making it along with a couple of the others it'll end up being a joke and imo taking away from the KC players who really do deserve it.

[posty 2,849]

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=444896

[Mike Honcho 5,546]

All star game is baseball is stupid now. Baseball is for the most part a one on one game, does it matter if Cain and Trout play in the same outfield. It's about the Pitcher vs Batter. The cool thing about baseball's All star game was watching Randy Johnson from the NL(Arizon) go against AL hitters he would never face. With inter-league play, the novelty is gone. And don't get me started that this worthless game decides home field in the WS---entire thing is a joke and I won't be watching.

[crackattack 520]

Voting is a joke. KC fans voting only KC players = dumb.

 

Here's your starting 2nd baseman stats.

 

.210 avg. 0 sb. .292 slg %. .219 ob %.

 

While I appreciate their dedication to their club, it's going to cost other players who are more deserving. Not counting bonuses $$. It will make the all-star game unwatchable outside the KC market. Thanks KC voters

[hoytdwow 202]

Fan voting should contribute about 0.10% to the actual starter decisions.

[Mungwater 601]

At least it basically guarantees NL gets homefield advantage

[RLLD 4,282]

At least it basically guarantees NL gets homefield advantage

 

[ZeroTolerance 584]

Well, at least Bumgarner won't be starting for the NL team. Maybe the Royal-stars will manage a run.

[posty 2,849]

National League - June 16

 

CATCHER

1. Buster Posey, Giants: 4,345,579

2. Yadier Molina, Cardinals: 3,930,399

3. Francisco Cervelli, Pirates: 1,101,593

4. Derek Norris, Padres: 1,014,286

5. Yasmani Grandal, Dodgers: 1,014,032

 

FIRST BASE

1. Paul Goldschmidt, D-backs: 3,562,399

2. Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers: 2,699,729

3. Matt Adams, Cardinals: 1,725,108

4. Anthony Rizzo, Cubs: 1,646,781

5. Brandon Belt, Giants: 1,557,407

 

SECOND BASE

1. Dee Gordon, Marlins: 3,481,830

2. Kolten Wong, Cardinals: 3,124,973

3. Joe Panik, Giants: 1,860,589

4. Howie Kendrick, Dodgers: 1,269,476

5. Yunel Escobar, Nationals: 1,129,737

 

THIRD BASE

1. Matt Carpenter, Cardinals: 4,455,782

2. Kris Bryant, Cubs: 2,198,522

3. Todd Frazier, Reds: 1,939,573

4. Nolan Arenado, Rockies: 1,699,515

5. David Wright, Mets: 890,605

 

SHORTSTOP

1. Jhonny Peralta, Cardinals: 4,020,531

2. Brandon Crawford, Giants: 2,785,818

3. Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies: 1,958,502

4. Starlin Castro, Cubs: 1,454,618

5. Zack Cozart, Reds: 975,989

 

OUTFIELD

1. Bryce Harper, Nationals: 6,059,827

2. Matt Holliday, Cardinals: 3,739,181

3. Nori Aoki, Giants: 2,995,899

4. Giancarlo Stanton, Marlins: 2,922,350

5. Andrew McCutchen, Pirates: 2,148,625

6. Justin Upton, Padres: 1,772,347

7. Jason Heyward, Cardinals: 1,695,246

8. Joc Pederson, Dodgers: 1,679,470

9. Angel Pagan, Giants: 1,628,035

10. Hunter Pence, Giants: 1,594,977

11. Jon Jay, Cardinals: 1,492,454

12. Ryan Braun, Brewers: 1,145,248

13. Yasiel Puig, Dodgers: 1,084,249

14. Corey Dickerson, Rockies: 952,107

15. Starling Marte, Pirates: 925,384

[swirvenirvin 25]

Fan voting should contribute about 0.10% to the actual starter decisions.

yep

[edjr 7,037]

Dont care, dont watch

[ZeroTolerance 584]

My stance on the All Star Game will be the same as my stance on Super Bowl halftime shows. I won't watch it, but I will keep a chat feed up so I can see people's reactions to the stupid/crazy/ridiculous sh*t that occurs.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

It's Kansas. Let them have it.

[jerryskids 7,196]

Goldschmidt is having an MVP season so far, glad to see him get the love.

 

Also posty: thanks for posting these updates.

[jerryskids 7,196]

If I were the manager I'd sit every Royal after the first half inning.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

If I were the manager I'd sit every Royal after the first half inning.

 

Too bad the manager is...Ned Yost, KC manager.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,428]

Its the all star game... who cares?

[Mungwater 601]

It's Kansas. Let them have it.

It's Missouri

[shotsup 836]

It's Missouri

[shotsup 836]

Dont care, dont watch

Forgot to log out as posty ?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

It's Missouri

Even worse.

[jerryskids 7,196]

 

Too bad the manager is...Ned Yost, KC manager.

 

Forgot that.

[shotsup 836]

Even worse.

Yes you are

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Yes you are

Here we go. Another booze hound taking a poke. Try not and stumble up the stairs tonight.

[shotsup 836]

Here we go. Another booze hound taking a poke. Try not and stumble up the stairs tonight.

So you are stupid and I am a drunk. Guess what AHole- I'll be sober in the morning ..... You ? still a ........

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

So you are stupid and I am a drunk. Guess what AHole- I'll be sober in the morning ..... You ? still a ........

Yes, you are a highly intelligent man, but will the pain be gone in the morning? What are you trying to numb with alcohol? Failure? Lost love? Money problems? Daddy/Mommy? Think about dealing with it another way. A smart guy like you should know that.

[crackattack 520]

MLB Commish "open to change" voting process of all-star selection. Looks like fan voting won't mean as much after this year. Kudos to all the KC voters for ruining the process