Dak Prescott stakes his claim to the cowboys backup QB job

[sirensong 111]

The real story that nobody is talking about is Hanna.. His injury is crippling to this offense.

 

i wouldn't quite say crippling, but his absence will definitely be substantial.

[Cruzer 1,995]

The search for a backup qb is over, least here in Dallas.

 

Say what you will about this offensive line, it's minus it's best in Tryon Smith and Dak just made the 1st team Dolphins defense look stupid.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Dallas fans have got to breathing easy knowing they are not totally boned if Romo were to miss any games.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Dallas fans have got to breathing easy knowing they are not totally boned if Romo were to miss any games.

I don't know if it's so much that as it is us fans have (even if temporary) a glimmer of hope for the future. Only 1 offensive lineman is over 25 and Zeke is a rookie - Good chance Romo is not even here in 2 years.

[Gepetto 1,373]

He'a impressive. Happy Cowboys fan here.

[Ray_T 754]

I gotta hand it to him. He's still looking good.

 

Lets hope he keeps up the good work.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

I didn't get to see the game. Did he have a solid connection with Jeremy Butler? I see the stat line. Just wondering if it was a legit hook up or just some blown coverage.

[Gepetto 1,373]

You mean Brice Butler; he looked good with Dak throwing to him.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

You mean Brice Butler; he looked good with Dak throwing to him.

Bah yeah. Knew I would get them mixed up.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Bah yeah. Knew I would get them mixed up.

Those 2 were clicking 2nite. Outside of the td, Butler also had another one called back on a throw from Dak - then there was the deep post, it was really nice.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Those 2 were clicking 2nite. Outside of the td, Butler also had another one called back on a throw from Dak - then there was the deep post, it was really nice.

Butler has been a deep dynasty stash of mine. Was pretty much set to cut him in one league because I have so many quality receivers. May have to change it up...

[Cruzer 1,995]

Butler has been a deep dynasty stash of mine. Was pretty much set to cut him in one league because I have so many quality receivers. May have to change it up...

He's got all the tools and physical gifts. He just needs to stay healthy and stay mentally focused.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

He's got all the tools and physical gifts. He just needs to stay healthy and stay mentally focused.

Yeah he is always hurt. I tend to gravitate toward those guys, and then I pull my hair out when they get hurt yet again.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Yeah he is always hurt. I tend to gravitate toward those guys, and then I pull my hair out when they get hurt yet again.

The real wr story in camp has been Terrance Williams. He's finally doing all the little things we've been expecting and screaming for. Of course it's his contract year - and to be honest, it pisses me off.

[polecatt 478]

I'm a huge Cowboys fan and I'm happy we got this guy. I know it's just preseason but he looks great. If he sits a year or two behind Romo and then becomes the starter he could be a star. Drafting Zeke instead of going after one of the 1st round QBs is looking like the right move more and more.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Drafting Zeke instead of going after one of the 1st round QBs is looking like the right move more and more.

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't get to make.

 

Nobody will remember Prescott was an afterthought - Jerry tried like hell to move back into the 1st for P. Lynch.

 

In 1990 Jimmy Johnson really wanted LB James Francis, but Cinci took him few spots earlier - settled for Emmitt Smith...

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

I'm a huge Cowboys fan and I'm happy we got this guy. I know it's just preseason but he looks great. If he sits a year or two behind Romo and then becomes the starter he could be a star. Drafting Zeke instead of going after one of the 1st round QBs is looking like the right move more and more.

No Zeke is not the right call. Should have been a defensive player.

[Cruzer 1,995]

No Zeke is not the right call. Should have been a defensive player.

Alfred Morris looked like a top ranked draft pick last night. Behind our line he pretty much had his way with the vaunted Miami, 1st unit, front 7.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Alfred Morris looked like a top ranked draft pick last night. Behind our line he pretty much had his way with the vaunted Miami, 1st unit, front 7.

Exactly. Anyone can run through there. Don't need a high draft pick.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Exactly. Anyone can run through there. Don't need a high draft pick.

I was pretty vocal about the pick and direction, was not excited as most. Was flat out irate at our 2nd round pick.. But since Zeke is here I'll obviously support him.

 

I believe Matt Jones got banged up last night - bet many up there are wishing they still had Morris.

[SpenceToons 70]

Alfred Morris looked like a top ranked draft pick last night. Behind our line he pretty much had his way with the vaunted Miami, 1st unit, front 7.

 

I agree with your Morris and DAL O-line assessments to the point where I'm considering finding a spot on my draft board for Morris now. But the thing that gives me pause was that last night's production came against the MIA DEF, which was tops in fantasy points surrendered to RBs in 2015. Also, the Giants ran 7 RBs against MIA in the first preseason game and came away with a collective YPC of 5.21.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I agree with your Morris and DAL O-line assessments to the point where I'm considering finding a spot on my draft board for Morris now. But the thing that gives me pause was that last night's production came against the MIA DEF, which was tops in fantasy points surrendered to RBs in 2015. Also, the Giants ran 7 RBs against MIA in the first preseason game and came away with a collective YPC of 5.21.

For sure, it's still preseason - but it was still a first unit. And Dallas did it w/out Tryon Smith and a backup RB... They also did it against the Rams last week... It's early, but a pattern is forming.

[polecatt 478]

Exactly. Anyone can run through there. Don't need a high draft pick.

If a player is likely to carry the ball 300+ times I think it's a good thing if he's an elite RB instead of average.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

If a player is likely to carry the ball 300+ times I think it's a good thing if he's an elite RB instead of average.

Well of course it's better to have a good player at any position than an average player. I'm talking about value to the team overall. I don't think a good running back is valuable enough to warrant that pick, especially since I don't believe Zeke is in the potential great category. He is NOT Gurley or AP.

[polecatt 478]

Well of course it's better to have a good player at any position than an average player. I'm talking about value to the team overall. I don't think a good running back is valuable enough to warrant that pick, especially since I don't believe Zeke is in the potential great category. He is NOT Gurley or AP.

Well we just disagree on that part of it and that's fine. I know McFadden was good enough to carry the load last season but the year before Murray was dominant. They had Romo too though. I think Zeke is as good as Murray. That difference is worth that pick IMO.

[R8RMick 242]

I thought you guys might like Butler. So it's worked out for both teams as we dealt our fifth for Connor Cook, which we were able to do since we had your fifth. BTW how is Mayowa looking?

[crackills 19]

 

I agree with your Morris and DAL O-line assessments to the point where I'm considering finding a spot on my draft board for Morris now. But the thing that gives me pause was that last night's production came against the MIA DEF, which was tops in fantasy points surrendered to RBs in 2015. Also, the Giants ran 7 RBs against MIA in the first preseason game and came away with a collective YPC of 5.21.

You guys are nuts.. Being a Skins fan i like Morris but he is not draftable imo as long as other runners are healthy. Look.. MIa D line was horrible last night.. did you see the holes that Dal O opened and Mia linebackers are even worse. Morris cant catch (this was also evident last night) Now i am sure he'll find his way to the field and even score a couple of times, but not someone you can confidently start.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

You guys are nuts.. Being a Skins fan i like Morris but he is not draftable imo as long as other runners are healthy. Look.. MIa D line was horrible last night.. did you see the holes that Dal O opened and Mia linebackers are even worse. Morris cant catch (this was also evident last night) Now i am sure he'll find his way to the field and even score a couple of times, but not someone you can confidently start.

I think it's more of a handcuff role. If Zeke goes down Morris will be money behind the line. Plus Morris is as durable as it gets.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Well we just disagree on that part of it and that's fine. I know McFadden was good enough to carry the load last season but the year before Murray was dominant. They had Romo too though. I think Zeke is as good as Murray. That difference is worth that pick IMO.

When did Murray all the sudden become "elite"? He was a 3rd round, often injured, pick out of college. He didn't miraculously become elite until he ran behind this line.. As soon As he left to Philly, he was rather average again. He in fact was so elite, they even dealt him.

 

Zeke has skills Murray never had. But it doesn't take special skills to be great behind this line, Murray proved that.

[polecatt 478]

When did Murray all the sudden become "elite"? He was a 3rd round, often injured, pick out of college. He didn't miraculously become elite until he ran behind this line.. As soon As he left to Philly, he was rather average again. He in fact was so elite, they even dealt him.

 

Zeke has skills Murray never had. But it doesn't take special skills to be great behind this line, Murray proved that.

I never meant to imply Murray was an elite talent. He was however a very talented RB who is/was well above average, one of the better RBs in the NFL. He's still a good bit better than either McFadden or Morris, whom I would consider average. Yeah Murray had a bad year in Philly but who wouldn't have last season as big a mess as that team was?

I think Zeke is as good as Murray, maybe better. How is that a bad thing to have the focal point of the offense be better than average?

[Ray_T 754]

 

I agree with your Morris and DAL O-line assessments to the point where I'm considering finding a spot on my draft board for Morris now. But the thing that gives me pause was that last night's production came against the MIA DEF, which was tops in fantasy points surrendered to RBs in 2015. Also, the Giants ran 7 RBs against MIA in the first preseason game and came away with a collective YPC of 5.21.

Morris has to play to have value.

 

at this point he is the #3 guy. Going on the assumption that DMC gets traded, Morris will only really have value as a handcuff to Zeke.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I never meant to imply Murray was an elite talent. He was however a very talented RB who is/was well above average, one of the better RBs in the NFL. He's still a good bit better than either McFadden or Morris, whom I would consider average. Yeah Murray had a bad year in Philly but who wouldn't have last season as big a mess as that team was?

I think Zeke is as good as Murray, maybe better. How is that a bad thing to have the focal point of the offense be better than average?

I think Murray was a pretty good RB who was made to look great behind this line. Morris, according to you, is average - looking like a stud behind this line. We didn't need to spend the 4th pick in the entire draft to improve a strength of a spot already... Especially when our defense is as bad as it is.

 

Don't let the 2014 season and Murray disillusion you. We snuck out a win over the Lions on a bad call and lost to a 1 legged Aarron Rodgers bcoz we couldn't get to him or make a stop. If the goal is to send offensive players to the Pro Bowl, the current plan is great. If it's to win in the post season, it's flawed.

[polecatt 478]

Who did you want Jalen Ramsey? DeForest Buckner?

I don't see either of those guys having the impact Zeke will.

They are all rookies so you never know how they will turn out until you see them in real games any way.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Who did you want Jalen Ramsey? DeForest Buckner?

I don't see either of those guys having the impact Zeke will.

They are all rookies so you never know how they will turn out until you see them in real games any way.

I would have taken Ramsey most likely.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Who did you want Jalen Ramsey? DeForest Buckner?

I don't see either of those guys having the impact Zeke will.

They are all rookies so you never know how they will turn out until you see them in real games any way.

I would moved down, picked up extra picks - gone defense. And for damn sure would not have taken Smith in the 2nd.

 

Let me know when they start holding parades for offensive Pro Bowlers.

[polecatt 478]

I would moved down, picked up extra picks - gone defense. And for damn sure would not have taken Smith in the 2nd.

 

Let me know when they start holding parades for offensive Pro Bowlers.

Well I can agree with that about the 2nd round pick. I think if we had taken a decent defensive player then that could play this year we would be much better off. In any case what ever the team does I hope it means we win.

I'm cheering for Zeke now.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Well I can agree with that about the 2nd round pick. I think if we had taken a decent defensive player then that could play this year we would be much better off. In any case what ever the team does I hope it means we win.

I'm cheering for Zeke now.

Oh for sure, I'm a Zeke fan and sure he's going to be good... But history doesn't lie, and it says you win in the post season with defense 1st, qb play 2nd. Just look at the last 11 or so SB winners - how many of them did it bcoz of their power running game? How many of them had the leading rusher? Hell, even Seattle had primarily done it with their stifling defense 1st.

 

I'm very concerned we don't have a single, dangerous pass rusher. I'm concerned we have a below average linebacking corps. And I'm worried (outside of Lee) we don't have any playmakers... It's no accident we led the league in fewest takeaways last year - hopefully the 'bend don't break' plan works somehow.

[Ray_T 754]

I would moved down, picked up extra picks - gone defense. And for damn sure would not have taken Smith in the 2nd.

 

Let me know when they start holding parades for offensive Pro Bowlers.

Well, I think Zeke was a nice add. But it was unnecessary.

 

DMC put up 1000 yards in roughly 2/3 of a season and they had a good backup in Morris.

 

I would have went Defense as well if I was drafting for that team.

 

Thats not to say Zeke wont make the team better. He will.

 

but I think addressing the defense was neccessary and this is a problem that wont go away. Yes, I fully acknowledge that the Defense will be better just because the offense will be on the field longer. But the defense still has issues and they have not been addressed.

[polecatt 478]

Sometimes you got to go with the most sure thing though and they clearly thought it was Zeke. They would have drafted Bosa before him but he was taken. He's already a headache for San Diego. They went best available. Plus this was before DeMarcus Lawrence failed a drug test. It may have been before Gregory did too but I can't recall off the top of my head.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

I would assume a team believes their scouting department is pathetic if the 4 pick roles around and this is their reaction

 

Well it's our pick. Who we going to take?

 

Well there is probably a shut down corner, a sack machine, and a ray Lewis somewhere in this draft.

 

Oh yeah, who do you think those people are?

 

I have no clue. Let's draft a nice safe running back because we really can't identify talent anywhere else.

 

Awesome! Let's do this every year!