Dak Prescott stakes his claim to the cowboys backup QB job

[sirensong 111]

Did belicheck complain about playing Brady when the better "toolbox" Bledsoe was healthy. If you have a young star and he can win in this league. You play him over the aging player that haven't played a full season in years and who can't win the "big" game.

 

 

you're cute. here's brian billick articulating exactly the same concept that i explained above.

 

 

 

The Cowboys could stick with Prescott and probably win the NFC East. But to get beyond that -- to outduel the Vikings or Seahawks in the playoffs -- they need to be something more than a strong running team with an above-average defense. They'll need the explosiveness that Romo, when healthy (and when possessing a full complement of weapons), gives them.

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000719771/article/cowboys-can-win-with-dak-but-ceiling-is-higher-with-tony-romo

[Cruzer 1,995]

 

 

who considers him that? IMO he's the best cowboys beat guy period. the only cowboys reporters i bother following are spags, broaddus, and fish.

I've heard it many times over the years. The most recent memories come from the guys at the Ticket - they used to routinely talk down about him. Not sure why - he's nails

[Cruzer 1,995]

yeah, GB is the big test. i'm a romo fan to the bone, but if dak comes out and out-duels rodgers (not just wins the game, but out-plays him), then i won't complain about riding the hot hand.

I think we not only win, but we march in there and enforce a bit of will Sunday... Yes, I have Kool Aid on my shirt.

[Challenger 72]

Hello Dak and goodbye Tony.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Here's some truth. If Romo really cares about this team he will tell the coaches to stick with Dak. Tony is getting paid, he's not fighting for a contract or needing stats to get paid. Anyone with eyes can see Dak is the better play right now. He should be man enough to see that and support him the best he can.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Dak played well today, but wasn't mistake free. It was great to see the Cowboys win and get to the bye at 5-1.

 

But, those turnovers may have cost them the game if Rogers and the Packers offense were performing at even 50% of their normal efficiency.

 

I say ride the hot hand til he gives you a reason not to.

[weepaws 3,194]

Dak is the new Qb and he's so blessed to have fantasy footballs number one Rb to give the ball to.

 

Now if they find another stud Wr this team will be tough to beat in the coming future.

 

Congrats Cowboys fans big road win.

 

And Zeke blew apart the number one ranked rushing def.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Dak played well today, but wasn't mistake free. It was great to see the Cowboys win and get to the bye at 5-1.

But, those turnovers may have cost them the game if Rogers and the Packers offense were performing at even 50% of their normal efficiency.

At some point and time we have to stop with the "yea he was ok, but it/if....." 1st it was 'yea but it was preseason', then it was 'yea but it was Washington', then it was 'yea but it was SF', then it was 'yea but wait till the Bengals', and now it's 'yea but GB's offense wasn't clicking 100%' - really???? What and when does Dak finally get credit for being what he appears to be? And nobody has been harder on our defense than me, but back to back weeks of kicking ass - now shutting down Rodgers in GB? Time to step up and recognize Dak and this defense - they are legit and they are for real.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I think we not only win, but we march in there and enforce a bit of will Sunday... Yes, I have Kool Aid on my shirt.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Dak played well today, but wasn't mistake free.

 

 

those turnovers may have cost them the game if Rogers and the Packers offense were performing at even 50% of their normal efficiency.

 

Agreed. You hit the nail on the head. I paid attention to a few other games today. I noticed a trend this week. There were a couple other QBs that didn't play mistake free. If things go bad enough for them, they could end up sitting on the bench or even injured. As I sat there, I also thought, "Boy, if the other team played better, they might not have been able to win"

 

It's amazing how things like this can happen, but it takes everyday people like you and I to expose it all for what it really is.

 

And we both know, as soon as Dallas plays someone who is any good, Dallas and Dak will be exposed. So far, the Giants exposed them. Don't worry, there will be more, and you and I will be sure to let the people know how Dallas got exposed.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Dak has been one consistent dude for my team. I loaded up on receivers and running backs and then took the chance on the Dakster. What nice run it has been so far.

[vuduchile 1,945]

At some point and time we have to stop with the "yea he was ok, but it/if....." 1st it was 'yea but it was preseason', then it was 'yea but it was Washington', then it was 'yea but it was SF', then it was 'yea but wait till the Bengals', and now it's 'yea but GB's offense wasn't clicking 100%' - really???? What and when does Dak finally get credit for being what he appears to be? And nobody has been harder on our defense than me, but back to back weeks of kicking ass - now shutting down Rodgers in GB? Time to step up and recognize Dak and this defense - they are legit and they are for real.

I give Dak a ton of credit for what he's done so far. And, as I said, I think he should continue to start.

 

But there's no denying that this Packers team didn't really give the Cowboys much of a test.

 

Having said that, I wonder which teams really are the class of the NFC now. GB, Carolina and AZ all look lost and the Cowboys look as good as anyone else.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

I give Dak a ton of credit for what he's done so far. And, as I said, I think he should continue to start.

 

But there's bo denying that this Packets team didn't really give the Cowboys much of a test.

 

Having said that, I wonder which teams really are the class of the NFC now. GB, Carolina and AZ all look lost and the Cowboys look as good as anyone else.

 

Man, you must be a Tony Romo dynasty owner.

You trying to downplay his play by talking about how bad the Packers are at home?

 

The dude's been lights out. He's young and playing almost mistake ball, something Tony Romo has never done in long stretches.

When you nail a Russell Wilson or Tom Brady late in the draft and they become a star right out of the gate, you ride them. Period.

Not an under achieving aging QB that hasn't played a whole season in god knows when.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I give Dak a ton of credit for what he's done so far. And, as I said, I think he should continue to start.

 

But there's bo denying that this Packets team didn't really give the Cowboys much of a test.

I'd like to think Dallas had a ton to do with that... Right off the bat, Dak and Zeke drove it down their throats, hung 7 - and set the tone... The vaunted Packers, #1 Rush Defense got manhandled in giving up 191 yards at 5.8 yards a pop - which in part led to Dallas flat out controlling the game.

 

Last week Dallas completely dismantled and whipped the Bengals up and down the field - everyone immediately said, "yea, but it was the Bengals."... This week New England and Brady (at home) is back and forth with the same Bengals team, trailing at a couple points midway thru. Brady brings them back and pulls away, the headline for them - 'Pats show remarkable grit and courage and once again the great Tom Brady leads a GOAT comeback charge!'...........Uh, what happened to "Yea, but it was just the Bengals?"

[vuduchile 1,945]

 

Man, you must be a Tony Romo dynasty owner.

You trying to downplay his play by talking about how bad the Packers are at home?

 

The dude's been lights out. He's young and playing almost mistake ball, something Tony Romo has never done in long stretches.

When you nail a Russell Wilson or Tom Brady late in the draft and they become a star right out of the gate, you ride them. Period.

Not an under achieving aging QB that hasn't played a whole season in god knows when.

I don't own Romo or Dak in any format. And, I'll say for the third time, I think they should continue starting Dak.

 

But you're kidding yourself if you think the Packers from yesterday were a tough out.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/packers-offense-has-hit-the-skids-but-what-exactly-is-wrong-in-green-bay-234718210.html

[vuduchile 1,945]

I'd like to think Dallas had a ton to do with that... Right off the bat, Dak and Zeke drove it down their throats, hung 7 - and set the tone... The vaunted Packers, #1 Rush Defense got manhandled in giving up 191 yards at 5.8 yards a pop - which in part led to Dallas flat out controlling the game.

 

Last week Dallas completely dismantled and whipped the Bengals up and down the field - everyone immediately said, "yea, but it was the Bengals."... This week New England and Brady (at home) is back and forth with the same Bengals team, trailing at a couple points midway thru. Brady brings them back and pulls away, the headline for them - 'Pats show once again true grit and courage and once again the great Tom Brady leads a GOAT comeback charge!'...........Uh, what happened to "Yea, but it was just the Bengals?"

No question they've played well, but do you really think we're seeing Aaron Rogers at his best so far this season?

[jrokh 608]

Giants fan and Dallas Hater, but as a zeke owner Ive watched them and they seem like the real deal their line is just so good...

[Cruzer 1,995]

No question they've played well, but do you really think we're seeing Aaron Rogers at his best so far this season?

Out of Rodgers last 18 games - he's only had a qb rating higher than 100 twice. This year he's yet to throw a 2nd half touchdown pass... . Maybe this is what Aaron Rodgers is now, maybe this is not a funk.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Out of Rodgers last 18 games - he's only had a qb rating higher than 100 twice. This year he's yet to throw a 2nd half touchdown pass... . Maybe this is what Aaron Rodgers is now, maybe this is not a funk.

Could be.

 

Either way, he sucked again yesterday, which was a factor in the Cowboys win.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Could be.

 

Either way, he sucked again yesterday, which was a factor in he Cowboys win.

The way Dallas manhandled the Pack's vaunted rush defense and how Dak was throwing timely tds - Rodgers would of had to had a HOF day to still win that game.

[Ray_T 753]

 

Man, you must be a Tony Romo dynasty owner.

You trying to downplay his play by talking about how bad the Packers are at home?

 

The dude's been lights out. He's young and playing almost mistake ball, something Tony Romo has never done in long stretches.

When you nail a Russell Wilson or Tom Brady late in the draft and they become a star right out of the gate, you ride them. Period.

Not an under achieving aging QB that hasn't played a whole season in god knows when.

True.

 

He's been Excellent.

 

I tried to find a way to change the thread to say Dak Stakes claim to the Cowboys Starting job, but I dont think the system will let me make it.

 

anyhow, I'm really impressed with this kid. almost as impressed as I was with Romo when he first started.

 

This kid has a future, there is no doubt of that. And I dont honestly know if there is any benefit to the kids development by sitting him.

 

I dont know that Romo gives them a significantly better chance to win either. Sure, he's a bit more polished, but that's not always a good thing.

[redsrback 30]

Dak has been one consistent dude for my team. I loaded up on receivers and running backs and then took the chance on the Dakster. What nice run it has been so far.

Are you sure you even know who Dak Prescott is, or you telling me your Jerry Jones ?

[redsrback 30]

Here's some truth. If Romo really cares about this team he will tell the coaches to stick with Dak. Tony is getting paid, he's not fighting for a contract or needing stats to get paid. Anyone with eyes can see Dak is the better play right now. He should be man enough to see that and support him the best he can.

 

Dear coach, please sit me because I'm not any good.

 

Yours truely

Tony

[vuduchile 1,945]

The way Dallas manhandled the Pack's vaunted rush defense and how Dak was throwing timely tds - Rodgers would of had to had a HOF day to still win that game.

No question. The Dallas O-line crushed the Pack D all day long.

 

But I really didn't see the Dallas D putting much pressure on Rogers or confusing him with their blitzes or coverage.

 

What I saw was a formerly great QB playing with a serious lack of confidence, missing throws, turning the ball over and making mistakes.

[Cruzer 1,995]

But I really didn't see the Dallas D putting much pressure on Rogers or confusing him with their blitzes or coverage.

 

If you go back and watch the tape, Dallas originally brought 4 - and Rodgers was forced out. But he's so damn good at making something of nothing, he was getting completions off busted plays... Marinelli then decided to just bring 3, play coverage - almost like he wanted Rodgers to stay in the pocket and throw it..... It worked... I was most surprised the Pack didn't attack and go after Claiborne's spot soon as he got knocked out. I just knew 1st play after that we were going to see Nelson on a deep fly pattern.. But playing coverage - he had deep safety help.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

Don't fix if it ain't broke.

5-1 and on top of their division.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Don't fix if it ain't broke.

5-1 and on top of their division.

The book has been that Romo gives you an edge over Dak in the passing game - that he can make throws Dak can't.. Well, not only is Dak making those throws now, but he's doing it w/out Dez - making Cole Beasley and Brice Butler look like Pro Bowlers... If Dak is giving you a passing threat similar to what you would gain from Romo, plus he has the added benefit of mobility and rushing - makes no sense to sit him now.

[thePRO 78]

Romo loyalists, I'm one of them, kept saying if he could beat the Bengals maybe we should stick with Dak. Then they beat the Bengals and they said, "Well if they can win in Lambeau." The truth is that Romo loyalists kept expecting a loss and a meltdown and they haven't gotten one.

 

I'm 50/50. On the fence. This O-line is playing like 2014 when the Cowboys went 12-4, beat the Lions in the playoffs, and had a chance to steal a win in Lambeau....but you know...the whole Dez Bryant catch/non catch BS thing happened.

 

I think Dak has looked good enough to where you can't take him out. Part of me still thinks the team is a little better off with Romo if Romo can still play like he did in 2014. That's no guarantee now with this latest back injury.

 

This O-line is playing so good that I think any of the other 31 QB's would be looking pretty decent right about now. Dak's been getting a ton of credit, but it deserves to go to the offensive line. Dak has made some nice plays, but has missed some really easy passes too. Those deep balls looked really good though and I'd like them to take a few more shots downfield like that with Dak.

[tanatastic 2,062]

I feel like Romo is good when Dez is happy and healthy and he can feed him 13tds a year but not good when he dissapears and has to make the other guys look good. Dak makes his teammates better and is single handedly ensuring Beasly becomes the Patriots next big wr signing someday.

[thePRO 78]

Romo has been good without Dez. Anyone remember Laurent Robinson having a pro bowl year with Romo, getting a big contract, and then leaving the league within a few years never to be heard of again?

 

But just doing a little number crunching right now confirms Dak should most likely be kept in. He has identical numbers to Romo in 2014.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I think Dak has looked good enough to where you can't take him out. Part of me still thinks the team is a little better off with Romo if Romo can still play like he did in 2014. That's no guarantee now with this latest back injury.

 

This O-line is playing so good that I think any of the other 31 QB's would be looking pretty decent right about now. Dak's been getting a ton of credit, but it deserves to go to the offensive line. Dak has made some nice plays, but has missed some really easy passes too. Those deep balls looked really good though and I'd like them to take a few more shots downfield like that with Dak.

With a healthy Romo, all year long - if he has this team 5-1, putting up Dak's identical #'s - this town and the country is talking about how amazing #9 looks, how great he's playing at age 36, how he defies medical hurdles - he's Superman like.

 

This is the 6th highest scoring offense in the entire league right now. In 2014, Romo's hay day, this team ranked 7th. This team has the 2nd highest 3rd down conversion rate. In 2014, we ranked 2nd. This team is ranked 7th in Plus/Minus turnovers. In 2014, Romo's team ranked 7th as well... It's working now - how much better do you expect it to get with Romo? Plus you have the added risk that he's not 30 year old Romo and you have the added risk of messing with this team's chemistry.. And I'm fine not chunking it down the field more. For one, it eliminates a pick. Two, we've not really the personnel to go deep - maybe Butler. And three, it's working fine now - and think that is bcoz we aren't turning it over and we're moving the chains.

[redsrback 30]

Dak is the man for the offense right now in reality, but in fantasy sense its his first decent game against a secondary that has alot of injuries

[thePRO 78]

With a healthy Romo, all year long - if he has this team 5-1, putting up Dak's identical #'s - this town and the country is talking about how amazing #9 looks, how great he's playing at age 36, how he defies medical hurdles - he's Superman like.

 

This is the 6th highest scoring offense in the entire league right now. In 2014, Romo's hay day, this team ranked 7th. This team has the 2nd highest 3rd down conversion rate. In 2014, we ranked 2nd. This team is ranked 7th in Plus/Minus turnovers. In 2014, Romo's team ranked 7th as well... It's working now - how much better do you expect it to get with Romo? Plus you have the added risk that he's not 30 year old Romo and you have the added risk of messing with this team's chemistry.. And I'm fine not chunking it down the field more. For one, it eliminates a pick. Two, we've not really the personnel to go deep - maybe Butler. And three, it's working fine now - and think that is bcoz we aren't turning it over and we're moving the chains.

 

Yep. My 2nd post basically said the same thing. Even his YPG and TD/INT % is almost exactly identical to Romo's in 2014. Romo has had his fair share of screw ups and losses, but I feel like he was getting better and better when playing in a big game on a big stage. I wasn't worrying about that costly TO late in the game anymore. I just hope Dak's inexperience doesn't cost us down the road. But he's an extremely confident kid, who works hard and doesn't seem to get nervous in the few big moments he's had so far. So this has been great to see.

[tanatastic 2,062]

People not realizing 2014 was more than 2 years ago and multiple injuries ago for Romo. I doubt he even makes it through a whole game of getting hit when he's healthy and he needs to start thinking long term about his health.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I just hope Dak's inexperience doesn't cost us down the road. But he's an extremely confident kid, who works hard and doesn't seem to get nervous in the few big moments he's had so far. So this has been great to see.

Romo has won all of 2 playoff games - so really, how much are we "losing" with a lesser experienced Dak in those games? And in fact, we should of prolly lost to Detroit in 2014. I'm glad we won, but let's face it - the Lions got royally screwed on the no-call pass interference play.

 

I think all are expecting Romo to just all of the sudden return, from 2 collarbone breaks, a broken spine and at age 36 - pick right up where he did in 2014. I'm far more worried about Romo actually playing like the fragile, old qb he is than I am of any inexperience Dak may have... Even as recently as Romo's last 2 regular season starts he was not good - and noticeably slow an immobile in the pocket. Even when he broke his back in Seattle, he got chased and run down from behind.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think "that" Tony Romo exists anymore. I think the Romo we have now isn't as good as what Dak is now.

[R8RMick 242]

Cruzer is feeling it right now, and I can't blame him. They've got their future at the position, but he's also the best option at present as well. I said last week they could run on the Pack, as Green Bay hadn't faced a rushing attack the caliber of Dallas.

 

The unsung heroes here are the Dallas coaches. That staff is game planning it's ASS off, throwing wrinkles into the playbook I've never seen in my 18 yrs here in Arlington.

 

Couple things... the kid has got some confidence going, which is huge. Want to see how he reacts to adversity. But he's just going to get better with experience. Secondly, they're doing this without Bryant. I'm wondering if the chemistry of this team changes when he gets back on the field. Right now it's Prescott's team. But when Bryant is out there he's the man, especially if he isn't getting his. I hope Dak puts him in his place the first time Dez explodes and whines he ain't getting the ball.

 

This team playing better now than 2014. Where did this focking defense come from? I laid entry fees in one of my leagues that Oakland would finish with a better record than the Boys. Not feeling so good right now this second.

[jgcrawfish 232]

This series of events in Dallas is even scarier. They have officially entered into the same place the Seahawks were when the first got Russell Wilson, only better. To have your two best offensive players (thus far) locked up for the next 4-5 years under rookie wage scale, particularly Dax as a 4th rounder, sets these guys up to be in superbowl run mode for the next 3 years. I would trade Romo, right now if possible, to get whatever value for him I could. 3rd-4th rounder and salary gone is all it would take. They have the best offensive line in the game and could focus in on improving their defense with the extra $ from jettisoning Romo. This stupid pick of Dax may have changed everything. Everybody was talking about the Eagles and Wentz, but that offensive line (which is all signed at least short term) and those two rookies may tilt the board.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

I agree. Trade Romo and don't look back. This would be a Belicheat type move (remember Bledsoe?). You can't have Romo infect the locker room if he can't play.

[cavern 70]

who the heck would pick up romo's salary right now?

[nobody 2,674]

He's not going anywhere anyway. Cowboys are tired of getting burned not having a capable backup.