drobeski 3,061 Posted December 8, 2017 And now LTC is up 25% you must be a happy guy today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 I have coins in cold storage & online. I keep what I day trade with online and the rest is in cold storage. Why do you need the cold storage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted December 8, 2017 I bought 230 worth of LTC earlier today. (with my bank, not CC) it said ":7 days" now it's completely empty and my max I can purchase is $4770 which tells me it took the money and there is no coin it is also missing from transactions from email Your purchase for $258.28 USD of LTC has started Your funds will be available by December 15, 2017 Coinbase and my bank dont seem to get along for some reason. Ive just been using a cc and it goes thru instantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 90s, with 2.78 billion coins in IOTA, it seems unlikely it gets to $100/coin, no? It is around $5 now and we are just entering the mass adoption phase, why not? Not even all the crypto investors are on this one yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 Why do you need the cold storage? The same reason you don't keep thousands of dollars under your mattress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 8, 2017 I still think this is all a sham in the end but screw it, Im gonna attempt to buy IOTA this weekend. Ive lost more at the Casino before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 Just don't buy any and laugh at us in 10 years after all the money you save. I already own some. I really just want to know how that works. In reality even if there is only .000001 bitcoins in circulation, you just make that .000001 bitcoin worth whatever 7 trillion dollars or whatever. It's not that big of a deal. I just wondered if anyone thought about what would happen if somehow we lost all the coins. If I lose my key. Those bitcoins are lost forever. That probably will happen a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 The same reason you don't keep thousands of dollars under your mattress. I literally have thousands of dollars in an envelope hidden in my office actually, but I get your point. You don't want someone to steal it. Why the fock can't anyone answer a question around here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 I still think this is all a sham in the end but screw it, Im gonna attempt to buy IOTA this weekend. Ive lost more at the Casino before. Its not. Thing about, in the future everything will be connected to the internet. Your coffee cup, your ID, your keys, the pair of pants you lost 2 months ago and the best way to do that would be a blockchain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 I literally have thousands of dollars in an envelope hidden in my office actually, but I get your point. You don't want someone to steal it. Why the fock can't anyone answer a question around here? Yeah because I don't want someone to steal them. The irony is I actually do have a USB under my mattress with crypto on it. Go figure, jokes on me I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,236 Posted December 8, 2017 It is around $5 now and we are just entering the mass adoption phase, why not? Not even all the crypto investors are on this one yet. Because there are 2.78 billion coins, and it's now at a huge market share. It seems the market share would need to grow astronomically to gain another couple hundred percent My buddy who spends all his time on this told me, low market share and low circulation have the largest potential for growth. High market share and high circulation have lower potential 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 90s, with 2.78 billion coins in IOTA, it seems unlikely it gets to $100/coin, no? Also want to mention you have to remember the nature of this coin. It is going to be attached to EVERYTHING. Where as other coins are just a form of currency. The 2.78 billion coins are justified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 8, 2017 Its not. Thing about, in the future everything will be connected to the internet. Your coffee cup, your ID, your keys, the pair of pants you lost 2 months ago and the best way to do that would be a blockchain. I think I understand how this works for currency and contracts/exchange of information, but how will blockchain help with my coffee and pants? Do you believe everything will have an electronic chip/signature, presumably to prevent theft or loss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted December 8, 2017 Coinbase and my bank dont seem to get along for some reason. Ive just been using a cc and it goes thru instantly. I only have 750 a week and I've used 1500 the last 2 weeks 1 cc is enough, protects me from myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 I think I understand how this works for currency and contracts/exchange of information, but how will blockchain help with my coffee and pants? Do you believe everything will have an electronic chip/signature, presumably to prevent theft or loss? Here is an article written by Ahmed Banafa that I think you will find interesting and he says it much better than I can: “Blockchain is promising for IoT security for the same reasons it works for cryptocurrency: It provides assurances that data is legitimate, and the process that introduces new data is well-defined,” said Ahmed Banafa, IoT expert and lecturer at San Jose State University, who wrote a popular overview of the potential for blockchain to solve IoT security challenges. https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/a-secure-model-of-iot-with-blockchain/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,236 Posted December 8, 2017 Also want to mention you have to remember the nature of this coin. It is going to be attached to EVERYTHING. Where as other coins are just a form of currency. The 2.78 billion coins are justified. My buddy heard there was bad code being covered up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 8, 2017 Here is an article written by Ahmed Banafa that I think you will find interesting and he says it much better than I can: https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/a-secure-model-of-iot-with-blockchain/ Thanks. Still don't know how it helps with my beverage and clothing, until they become "smart" too - but I guess that is kinda the point of IoT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 My buddy heard there was bad code being covered up I haven't heard anything about this, but I wouldn't be to concerned It still is in the development phase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,342 Posted December 8, 2017 IOTA doesn't seem to be on Bittrex (anymore?). I signed up for Bitfinex, but I'm getting a message that they're severing ties with all US customers, and if you're in the US you better remove all your coins pronto. At the bottom it asks if I'm a US resident. 90s, is this just something they have to say for some legal reason, and if I say that I'm not a US resident (even though they can tell I'm accessing the site from the US), they won't know the difference? Or do I have to tell the truth, and I'm out of luck on Bitfinex? (I still have the dialog box up.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 8, 2017 IOTA doesn't seem to be on Bittrex (anymore?). I signed up for Bitfinex, but I'm getting a message that they're severing ties with all US customers, and if you're in the US you better remove all your coins pronto. At the bottom it asks if I'm a US resident. 90s, is this just something they have to say for some legal reason, and if I say that I'm not a US user, they won't know the difference? Or do I have to tell the truth, and I'm out of luck on Bitfinex? (I still have the dialog box up.) Not lying is usually the best policy - don't let the $ cloud your judgement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,342 Posted December 8, 2017 Not lying is usually the best policy - don't let the $ cloud your judgement. But then how will I get my coins? They don't seem to care one iota. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 840 Posted December 8, 2017 CBOE will open Futures Exchange for Bitcoin this Sunday. What does this do to the market. I would be fearful of a bunch of big players shorting the fock out of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 Here is an article written by Ahmed Banafa that I think you will find interesting and he says it much better than I can: https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/a-secure-model-of-iot-with-blockchain/ Seems like overkill to use the blockchain to encrypt the fact that my fridge wants me to buy milk or my thermostat says my house is 72 degrees. I mean in the end are we going to have farms of bit coin miners all over the world processing these mundane transactions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 CBOE will open Futures Exchange for Bitcoin this Sunday. What does this do to the market. I would be fearful of a bunch of big players shorting the fock out of this. It might be pain in the short term but it also might help stablize the market. Which is a good thing. This whole price difference at different exchanges is bullshit in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 IOTA doesn't seem to be on Bittrex (anymore?). I signed up for Bitfinex, but I'm getting a message that they're severing ties with all US customers, and if you're in the US you better remove all your coins pronto. At the bottom it asks if I'm a US resident. 90s, is this just something they have to say for some legal reason, and if I say that I'm not a US resident (even though they can tell I'm accessing the site from the US), they won't know the difference? Or do I have to tell the truth, and I'm out of luck on Bitfinex? (I still have the dialog box up.) I don't know their policy anymore and I signed up a long time ago. I heard people on Poloniex had to send in photos of their IDs and stuff now and I never had to do that. So what Bittrex has done in the last few months I'm not sure. I bought them, moved them to cold storage and that was it. Look into ShapeShift they might do an auto conversion with BTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 But then how will I get my coins? They don't seem to care one iota. I think you should lie. They probably just don't want americans getting rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 Seems like overkill to use the blockchain to encrypt the fact that my fridge wants me to buy milk or my thermostat says my house is 72 degrees. I mean in the end are we going to have farms of bit coin miners all over the world processing these mundane transactions? Doesn't seem overkill to me, actually sounds pretty bada$$. IOTA is unrelated to Bitcoin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 I think you should lie. They probably just don't want americans getting rich. Honestly I have a theory that all of these ICO's and exchanges that don't allow Americans is a way to drain wealth from the west. Not sure if anyone has expanded on it but it was just a random thought that I had one day because it is so common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 Doesn't seem overkill to me, actually sounds pretty bada$$. IOTA is unrelated to Bitcoin. Yeah but it still uses blockchain, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 Yeah but it still uses blockchain, no? Yes IOTA is a blockchain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,342 Posted December 8, 2017 I don't know their policy anymore and I signed up a long time ago. I heard people on Poloniex had to send in photos of their IDs and stuff now and I never had to do that. So what Bittrex has done in the last few months I'm not sure. I bought them, moved them to cold storage and that was it. Look into ShapeShift they might do an auto conversion with BTC. Shapeshift does not appear to recognize IOTA. I think you should lie. They probably just don't want americans getting rich. I lied. I said I'm not a US resident. It let me in. We'll see how far I can go before it asks me to send in a picture of my ID, or something. Then I'm fooked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,653 Posted December 8, 2017 Yes IOTA is a blockchain. Right. So it's overkill? You don't need that level of encryption for mundane stuff. You would have to process millions of transactions a minute. The infrastructure to run all that shït through a blockchain would be way over the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 Shapeshift does not appear to recognize IOTA. I lied. I said I'm not a US resident. It let me in. We'll see how far I can go before it asks me to send in a picture of my ID, or something. Then I'm fooked. VPN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,236 Posted December 8, 2017 Right. So it's overkill? You don't need that level of encryption for mundane stuff. You would have to process millions of transactions a minute. The infrastructure to run all that shït through a blockchain would be way over the top. Until hacking becomes common among mundane items like refrigerator, stove, thermostat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 8, 2017 Shapeshift does not appear to recognize IOTA. I lied. I said I'm not a US resident. It let me in. We'll see how far I can go before it asks me to send in a picture of my ID, or something. Then I'm fooked. Terrible decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,342 Posted December 8, 2017 Terrible decision. Yeah, I may try Binance instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 803 Posted December 8, 2017 Geeks watching cryptos starts at about 14:45 to 16:30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,342 Posted December 8, 2017 Yeah, I may try Binance instead. Done, and they do not seem to have the same bias against U.S. Americans. Fock Bitfinex. If anybody else is Binance-curious, let me refer you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 8, 2017 Thanks. Still don't know how it helps with my beverage and clothing, until they become "smart" too - but I guess that is kinda the point of IoT. That's exactly the point. The centralized model will not scale to meet the demand of the IoT. Furthermore, the cryptographic processes inherent in all blockchains will not only make it perfect for the transactions themselves, but also the security of the actual devices. You need think about it as investing on the technology itself, than just the current crypto currency uses. Device authentication, control layers, security, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,584 Posted December 8, 2017 Done, and they do not seem to have the same bias against U.S. Americans. Fock Bitfinex. If anybody else is Binance-curious, let me refer you! They support IOTA? Ill use your reference link PM it to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites