Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 this Guy served time...wasn't pardoned (since you all don't seem to understand the difference between a commuted sentence and a pardon). And. I matter if commuting his sentence was right or wrong...it has nothing to do with this again. Just the same bogus whataboutism bs deflection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 28, 2017 How could he commute his sentence if he hasn't been sentenced yet? Guy did time. Guy was a terrorist that set off bombs in our country. Slow stuff hits a new low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,576 Posted August 28, 2017 he was granted clemency, slightly different but the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how-evil-this-man-is Cheering for this...pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,998 Posted August 28, 2017 Thanks to the libs, people don't even dread going to prison anymore. Like a focking country club in there. We need MORE people like Sheriff Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 Thanks to the libs, people don't even dread going to prison anymore. Like a focking country club in there. We need MORE people like Sheriff Joe Fish bite better in the morning or evening. Bit early for this chum in the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 28, 2017 https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how-evil-this-man-is Cheering for this...pathetic cool hack piece, was he convicted of any of the garbage listed ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 28, 2017 Thanks to the libs, people don't even dread going to prison anymore. Like a focking country club in there. We need MORE people like Sheriff Joe nailed it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 cool hack piece, was he convicted of any of the garbage listed ?He is a piece of crap...only blind partisan hacks cheer this kind of crap on. So...people like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 28, 2017 He is a piece of crap...only blind partisan hacks cheer this kind of crap on. So...people like you.I'll take that as a retarded version of "no". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 562 Posted August 28, 2017 https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how-evil-this-man-is Cheering for this...pathetic So when a conservative stands up to federal laws, he's a monster. When a liberal stands up to federal laws, they're a brave hero. Keep on being a tard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted August 28, 2017 And you bitched about those...but are ok with this. Hypocrisy as usual. Comparing those two examples with Trump's Pardon is laughable just as you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,576 Posted August 28, 2017 So when a conservative stands up to federal laws, he's a monster. When a liberal stands up to federal laws, they're a brave hero. Keep on being a tard. is Shotard, Newbie or anyone calling for prison time for Sanctuary city sheriffs/mayors? they are celebrating Gavin Newsome for godssake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 So when a conservative stands up to federal laws, he's a monster. When a liberal stands up to federal laws, they're a brave hero. Keep on being a tard. Didn't read it did you. The things he has done in his life aren't just standing up to federal laws. Nowhere did I say anyone was some beave hero. Quit trying to make things up in order to argue. It's a tactic some of you keep using. I guess it's all you have left when you can't refute what I've said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 Comparing those two examples with Trump's Pardon is laughable just as you are.Yes...they both served time and had their cases reviewed by the DOJ. Trump went around that.And their cases are irrelevant to Trump...yet you all bring it up to deflect...only to show your own hypocrisy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 is Shotard, Newbie or anyone calling for prison time for Sanctuary city sheriffs/mayors? ###### they are celebrating Gavin Newsome for godssake You all are struggling hard with false equivalency yet again. Common deflection when you can't use facts to defend your boy or your own blatant hypocrisy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted August 28, 2017 Pay attention folks slow nut just came up with a new drinking game. Every time he uses the word deflection take a shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 28, 2017 Pay attention folks slow nut just came up with a new drinking game. Every time he uses the word deflection take a shot You'd be drunk quick since it's one of the few tactics you all have. Can't debate any topic on merit...it's only but but Obama...or Hillary or Bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 Pay attention folks slow nut just came up with a new drinking game. Every time he uses the word deflection take a shot He's really trying to equate Apriro, who got convicted on some BS, to a guy who was part of a crew that planted bombs and killed civilians eating lunch in our country. Faunces Tavern bombing Slownuff, try and read a little and educate yourself. Then get back to me and try and compare that to a "racial profiling" charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 562 Posted August 29, 2017 You all are struggling hard with false equivalency yet again. Common deflection when you can't use facts to defend your boy or your own blatant hypocrisy. Hypocrisy? How loud did you fockers scream when Obama released roughly 160 scumbags/terrorists from Guantanamo? Yeah, the only noise I heard from your focking asses was cheering and praising him. So go fock yourself and choke on the word hypocrisy you liberal chunk of sh!t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 340 Posted August 29, 2017 It's okay guys, the other side did it too. That's all that matters, right? One side couldn't possibly be focktards because the other side were focktards. Pathetic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 29, 2017 It's okay guys, the other side did it too. That's all that matters, right? One side couldn't possibly be focktards because the other side were focktards. Pathetic. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 It's okay guys, the other side did it too. That's all that matters, right? One side couldn't possibly be focktards because the other side were focktards. Pathetic. Obamas was way worse. Not even close. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 921 Posted August 29, 2017 Republicans love cops but hate the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 29, 2017 Hypocrisy? How loud did you fockers scream when Obama released roughly 160 scumbags/terrorists from Guantanamo? Yeah, the only noise I heard from your focking asses was cheering and praising him. So go fock yourself and choke on the word hypocrisy you liberal chunk of sh!t More false equivalency bullshit as usual. Stop with the lame righty talking points for once in your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 340 Posted August 29, 2017 Obamas was way worse. Not even close. And? It's not a contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 29, 2017 Way worse...holy focking hack. None of them can even try admitting this was bad. They are so far up Trumps ass it literally doesn't matter what he does with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 And? It's not a contest. Yes it is. Obama let a man responsible for the deaths of Americans via terrorism out before he served his sentence on the provable charges, even though there is little doubt he was guilty of so much more. That was enough of a break for that POS. And he never denounced violence, even when he was offered a way out years ago if he did. Aprio was never even charged with anything close,and convicted on a BS, eye of the beholder charge. All these horrible things he did and the best the federal govt could come up with was a profiling charge? Maybe they should have actually went to trial on real charges. But then they might lose, and the Feds don't like to lose. So they take the easy way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 29, 2017 Yes it is. Obama let a man responsible for the deaths of Americans via terrorism out before he served his sentence on the provable charges, even though there is little doubt he was guilty of so much more. That was enough of a break for that POS. And he never denounced violence, even when he was offered a way out years ago if he did. Aprio was never even charged with anything close,and convicted on a BS, eye of the beholder charge. All these horrible things he did and the best the federal govt could come up with was a profiling charge? Maybe they should have actually went to trial on real charges. But then they might lose, and the Feds don't like to lose. So they take the easy way out. So let's assume you are Right and Obama was the antichrist of presidents. Does your guy being a slightly less virulent pos mean it's good and should not be criticized? That's his point. It isn't about what the last guy did. Each case gets discussed on its own merits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 So let's assume you are Right and Obama was the antichrist of presidents. Does your guy being a slightly less virulent pos mean it's good and should not be criticized? That's his point. It isn't about what the last guy did. Each case gets discussed on its own merits. No, that's not how it works. When Obama does something as agregious as he did with his many pardons and commutations, and there were many , worst of all Lopez-Rivera, and nobody gives a shite, especially the left and the media, you don't get to question Trump on his, when the "crime" Trump gave him a pass on isn't close to the ones Obama did. If you didn't speak out when Obama did it, don't think you're entitled to the moral high ground now, no matter how screwed up Trump is. And I am judging the case on its merits. Part of judging is comparing it to past practices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 29, 2017 No, that's not how it works. When Obama does something as agregious as he did with his many pardons and commutations, and there were many , worst of all Lopez-Rivera, and nobody gives a shite, especially the left and the media, you don't get to question Trump on his, when the "crime" Trump gave him a pass on isn't close to the ones Obama did. If you didn't speak out when Obama did it, don't think you're entitled to the moral high ground now, no matter how screwed up Trump is. And I am judging the case on its merits. Part of judging is comparing it to past practices. I'll agree that this guys crime wasn't bad. But his practices as Sheriff... wow. Scum bag. I don't really give a sh!t about this pardon. I'm just tired of the meaningless back and forth and "but your guy" crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 562 Posted August 29, 2017 Way worse...holy focking hack. None of them can even try admitting this was bad. They are so far up Trumps ass it literally doesn't matter what he does with them. Yes, 160 terrorists/scum being released by a Presidential action is worse than 1 Sheriff being pardoned by another President. Your so far up Obama's ass you can't admit it is 160 times worse than what Trump did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 Obama pardons killers. Trump pardoned an ass hole. It's not even close Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 29, 2017 Obama pardons killers. Trump pardoned an ass hole. It's not even close 1. People died because of arrapio. His little gulag was pretty damn bad. Now of course, that isn't what he was charged and convicted of, which is a fair point. 2. If you are talking about gitmo, none of those people were ever charged or convicted of a damn thing to my knowledge. We never should have held them in the first place. Either kill em out in the wild or try them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 1. People died because of arrapio. His little gulag was pretty damn bad. Now of course, that isn't what he was charged and convicted of, which is a fair point. 2. If you are talking about gitmo, none of those people were ever charged or convicted of a damn thing to my knowledge. We never should have held them in the first place. Either kill em out in the wild or try them. Gitmo didn't get me as pissed as all the "non-violent" criminals pardoned. They made it sound like these people got caught smoking a joint. As you know, the bar is pretty high for those that get fed time. They were part of a criminal enterprise that doesn't exist without violence. They may have been charged with possession and distribution, because getting a credible witness to give them up for the bodies is nearly impossible in that world. If the bodies are even found. And even though Trump did it for his own political purposes, at least he did it up front, unlike Obama who waited until the end of his term, when it wouldn't hurt him politically. If those people were so worthy, why did he let them sit in jail for years? Because he's a phony, just like all of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 And as far as gitmo, I'm not inclined to extend the graces of our civilization to savages. Gloves off with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 29, 2017 Yes, 160 terrorists/scum being released by a Presidential action is worse than 1 Sheriff being pardoned by another President. Your so far up Obama's ass you can't admit it is 160 times worse than what Trump did. You mean people accused of terrorism...never saw trial or conviction and held without such things? I can see they are two separate focking issues and not try to conflate th to deflect as you focking pussies keep doing. Just because you can't admit when Trump does something bad or stupid. All of you Trump supporting Jack wagons are showing how blindly partisan you are every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,998 Posted August 29, 2017 Shonuff is incapabale of making a rational comparison when it goes against his side. Again, ton be clear: being one of the leaders of a terrorist organization that set off numerous bombs and killed Americans is a lot worse than racial profiling. Any normal person would agree. Except this boob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 29, 2017 And as far as gitmo, I'm not inclined to extend the graces of our civilization to savages. Gloves off with them. Our civilization holds that such "graces" are the inalienable right of all men. To openly act otherwise is to spit on the very fabric of America. And it also gives every piss pot dictator on eart the right to do the same to Americans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 562 Posted August 29, 2017 You mean people accused of terrorism...never saw trial or conviction and held without such things? I can see they are two separate focking issues and not try to conflate th to deflect as you focking pussies keep doing. Just because you can't admit when Trump does something bad or stupid. All of you Trump supporting Jack wagons are showing how blindly partisan you are every day. Damn you're obtuse. They are the same thing! Obama made a decision and let animals go free. Trump made a decision and let Joe go. It's the SAME. They both made decisions to free people. I'm out of color crayons or I'd draw you a picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites