Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 Trump won 4 states by 80,000 total votes and its been nonstop investigations, scandals and assclownery since then. Being an incumbent helps but I think this is a guy who has maxed out his support and made many more enemies in half a term. We will see I guess. Yep. The Swamp clearly wants him out. What's your point? You do understand that a LOT of people voted for him not because they wanted him to but because they didn't want another POS Washington lifer, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 Yep. The Swamp clearly wants him out. What's your point? You do understand that a LOT of people voted for him not because they wanted him to but because they didn't want another POS Washington lifer, right? My point is that Trumps re-election isnt nearly the slam dunk his supporters say it is, and not because of the Swamp. Its because he is deranged and cant control himself. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 My point is that Trumps re-election isnt nearly the slam dunk his supporters say it is, and not because of the Swamp. Its because he is deranged and cant control himself. HTH I don't think it's ever a slam dunk. Polls are flawed. Look at Hitlery. She didn't think Trump had a chance in hell. Pretty sure you didn't either. I know Sho didn't. He wept like a little girl that night. It was awesome. Worms almost offed himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 I don't think it's ever a slam dunk. Polls are flawed. Look at Hitlery. She didn't think Trump had a chance in hell. Pretty sure you didn't either. I know Sho didn't. He wept like a little girl that night. It was awesome. Worms almost offed himself. I like how Trumpers have retreated into a Candyland reality of their own making. Polls are all wrong, any news that hurts the orange man is fake news, the Russian investigation is a witch hunt, every scandal is due to the Swamp, and a government mole is feeding you tidbits about Donalds war with the deep state via 4chan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,572 Posted August 16, 2018 My point is that Trumps re-election isnt nearly the slam dunk his supporters say it is, and not because of the Swamp. Its because he is deranged and cant control himself. HTH It's sure as hell not a slam dunk, it was a shock he won in the first place and I don't see how he improves on last time. I know, I sent BLS $150 worth of flashlights, not because I like Hillary, but because I thought he was giving away free money. As for the 'deranged and can't control himself' bit Everyone kinda' sorta' already knew that going in. I gotta tell you though, that's not to say he won't. Going home and talking to some of my longterm Democrat friends, one an elected Democrat official who won against the tide of Trump's Macomb County landslide , neither hates Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 I like how Trumpers have retreated into a Candyland reality of their own making. Polls are all wrong, any news that hurts the orange man is fake news, the Russian investigation is a witch hunt, every scandal is due to the Swamp, and a government mole is feeding you tidbits about Donalds war with the deep state via 4chan. Who you calling a Trumper? I didn't vote for him and won't next time either. I think he's a buffoon. I also think pretty much everyone in Washington is just as bad or worse. Funny how you talk about his supposedly horrible poll numbers. Have you looked at congress'? His approval rating is through the roof compared to those corrupt idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 It's sure as hell not a slam dunk, it was a shock he won in the first place and I don't see how he improves on last time. I know, I sent BLS $150 worth of fleshlights, not because I like Hillary, but because I thought he was giving away free money. As for the 'deranged and can't control himself' bit Everyone kinda' sorta' already knew that going in. I gotta tell you though, that's not to say he won't. Going home and talking to some of my longterm Democrat friends, one an elected Democrat official who won against the tide of Trump's Macomb County landslide , neither hates Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted August 16, 2018 I don't know. Depends who the Dems run. I'm not sure Trump carries Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin again. I definitely don't think it's a slam dunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 It's sure as hell not a slam dunk, it was a shock he won in the first place and I don't see how he improves on last time. I know, I sent BLS $150 worth of flashlights, not because I like Hillary, but because I thought he was giving away free money. As for the 'deranged and can't control himself' bit Everyone kinda' sorta' already knew that going in. I gotta tell you though, that's not to say he won't. Going home and talking to some of my longterm Democrat friends, one an elected Democrat official who won against the tide of Trump's Macomb County landslide , neither hates Trump. I had the impression a lot of people thought Trumps schtick was a bit of an act to get elected and once he got in he would surround himself with solid people and run the country like a business etc. Of anything the guy is even more deranged now that hes been elected and youre starting to see the act part was the phony middle class champion schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted August 16, 2018 Beting window is open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,572 Posted August 16, 2018 I had the impression a lot of people thought Trumps schtick was a bit of an act to get elected and once he got in he would surround himself with solid people and run the country like a business etc. Of anything the guy is even more deranged now that hes been elected and youre starting to see the act part was the phony middle class champion schtick. Well, maybe somebody else. Speaking for myself, I was anticipating a sh*tshow that would play out similar to how it has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,572 Posted August 16, 2018 Focker! I was horrified I had made a typo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 I had the impression a lot of people thought Trumps schtick was a bit of an act to get elected and once he got in he would surround himself with solid people and run the country like a business etc. Of anything the guy is even more deranged now that hes been elected and youre starting to see the act part was the phony middle class champion schtick. How was it phony? Economy is rolling along, Wages are up, he's actually creating jobs. All he has to do is ask people if they want more minimum wage service jobs as Obama created or real jobs that he's been creating. Economy is king. There's a reason his approval among blacks has improved so much and it's not because they don't think he's a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted August 16, 2018 How was it phony? Economy is rolling along, Wages are up, he's actually creating jobs. All he has to do is ask people if they want more minimum wage service jobs as Obama created or real jobs that he's been creating. Economy is king. There's a reason his approval among blacks has improved so much and it's not because they don't think he's a racist. Walmart was starting people at $17-$25 in Central Florida a few weeks back depending on experience, that is less than a lot of jobs that require a degree in the same area. You can make it on your own with that kind of money in C. Florida. Economy is roaring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 How was it phony? Economy is rolling along, Wages are up, he's actually creating jobs. All he has to do is ask people if they want more minimum wage service jobs as Obama created or real jobs that he's been creating. Economy is king. There's a reason his approval among blacks has improved so much and it's not because they don't think he's a racist. Real wages actually declined in the past year for most workers. Unemployment had been trending down for years before Trump took office - not sure how you credit him with that trend. Hes really done nothing except run a $1 trillion deficit to hand CEOs a massive tax cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 16, 2018 I had the impression a lot of people thought Trumps schtick was a bit of an act to get elected and once he got in he would surround himself with solid people and run the country like a business etc. Of anything the guy is even more deranged now that hes been elected and youre starting to see the act part was the phony middle class champion schtick.yet everything that matters in the country has improved. Lay off the fake news bozo. ISIS ... who ? Russia ...Trump putting the screws to them. By far more than any recent previous administration Economy....blazing NATO members ...getting their asses in line and starting to pay thier fair share Trade...making America the priority Jobs jobs jobs He's killing it...most productive administration ever. Sorry he hurts those feelings tho little guy. Keep that chin up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 yet everything that matters in the country has improved. Lay off the fake news bozo. ISIS ... who ? Russia ...Trump putting the screws to them. By far more than any recent previous administration Economy....blazing NATO members ...getting their asses in line and starting to pay thier fair share Trade...making America the priority Jobs jobs jobs He's killing it...most productive administration ever. Sorry he hurts those feelings tho little guy. Keep that chin up. Did QAnon tell you all that in code? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 16, 2018 Did QAnon tell you all that in code? your nightmares gonna last a little longer than you hoped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 your nightmares gonna last a little longer than you hoped Im doing fine. Id say 60/40 Trump. His supporters are way too confident though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,257 Posted August 16, 2018 Someone mentioned PA/OH/FLA; no way Trump loses the first two. I grew up there, I know those people. They are Trump people. Blue collar, they just want the opportunity to work an honest day for a livable wage. They don't want socialist handouts and that message is lost on them. 80% of the people from my hometown would crawl over broken glass to re-elect Trump. The dems have already maxed out their ballot stuffing in Philly, I don't see how they add significantly more votes. I don't know as much about FLA so I'll defer to others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted August 16, 2018 Someone mentioned PA/OH/FLA; no way Trump loses the first two. I grew up there, I know those people. They are Trump people. Blue collar, they just want the opportunity to work an honest day for a livable wage. They don't want socialist handouts and that message is lost on them. 80% of the people from my hometown would crawl over broken glass to re-elect Trump. The dems have already maxed out their ballot stuffing in Philly, I don't see how they add significantly more votes. I don't know as much about FLA so I'll defer to others. He wont lose Florida either. Take out Miami and Florida is a die-hard Republican State. I see Trump stickers all day long. DeSantis pretty much has the governor race in the bag as well and Trump endorsed him. He easily wins Florida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 Trump running a net negative approval rating in PA, OH, MI, WI. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/6/19/17474984/trump-state-polling Also worth noting of the 5 presidents who won the election while losing the popular vote, four of them were not re-elected. Trump supporters remind me a little of Patriot fans on Feb. 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,799 Posted August 16, 2018 If Trumps African American numbers keep going up we won't be hearing too much about voter ID and black voter suppression from the democrats. They'll be the ones demanding ID. Lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,257 Posted August 16, 2018 Trump running a net negative approval rating in PA, OH, MI, WI. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/6/19/17474984/trump-state-polling Also worth noting of the 5 presidents who won the election while losing the popular vote, four of them were not re-elected. Trump supporters remind me a little of Patriot fans on Feb. 3. I'll add MI to my list; no way they vote for a socialist. This all presumes a dem candidate who doesn't speak to them. So far, crickets. Wisconsin I also don't know well enough although I suspect it is similar with Milwaukee and Madison buying the dem pablum and the rest of the state voting red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 16, 2018 You guys realize these states you are positive won’t vote blue had just voted blue the previous election right? Just making sure, people are fickle and easily persuaded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted August 16, 2018 You guys realize these states you are positive won’t vote blue had just voted blue the previous election right? Just making sure, people are fickle and easily persuaded. You really think Trump has a chance at California? I wouldn't go that far man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 Real wages actually declined in the past year for most workers. Unemployment had been trending down for years before Trump took office - not sure how you credit him with that trend. Hes really done nothing except run a $1 trillion deficit to hand CEOs a massive tax cut. Gotta admit. You have your talking points down pat, ShoMDC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 Gotta admit. You have your talking points down pat, ShoMDC. Anything I said untrue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 16, 2018 You really think Trump has a chance at California? I wouldn't go that far man. Obviously I mean states that have a history of one way or the other, not ones already locked in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 Anything I said untrue? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted August 16, 2018 Obviously I mean states that have a history of one way or the other, not ones already locked in. I was being satirical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 706 Posted August 16, 2018 I had the impression a lot of people thought Trumps schtick was a bit of an act to get elected and once he got in he would surround himself with solid people and run the country like a business etc. Of anything the guy is even more deranged now that hes been elected and youre starting to see the act part was the phony middle class champion schtick. I will admit that's pretty much where I was at election time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted August 16, 2018 I'll take this bet if the Dem's run a white male under the age of 60. Edit: can't be a ghey male Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,923 Posted August 16, 2018 Yes Is it a secret? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,026 Posted August 16, 2018 Is it a secret? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 16, 2018 Bets? Ill take the field for $100 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted August 16, 2018 Ill take the field for $100Do it BLS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 16, 2018 Do it BLS.You seem quite confident, too, and can pay me in cryptocurrency Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 16, 2018 I see this thread getting bumped multiple times in the next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites