Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

38 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Oh gawd. Yeah, definitely too soft for this place. 

That's what she said. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,129]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Rush spews lies and hatred on air.  He's one of the reasons the media is terrible and can't be trusted.

https://newsone.com/16051/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/09/13/rush-limbaughs-irresponsible-irma-fearmongering/659508001/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=rush-limbaugh

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-presidential-medal-of-freedom-state-of-the-union-outrageous-quotes/

Yeah, it's just Rush. 

Those in glass houses and all that.

[OldMaid 2,130]

11 minutes ago, Reality said:

He wouldn't need to. Low rent, lightly trafficked.

HTH

Please explain how Mike would know if he’s not here other than somebody reported them.

[Fnord 2,292]

28 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah, it's just Rush. 

Those in glass houses and all that.

It's not just him. But Rush has been doing this sh!t for 35 years and counting. Ya know how pissy all the Trumpers get over being called racist nazi morons for the last 4 years? Rush has been doing the same sort of thing to Libs for nearly 4 decades. Constant demonizing, dehumanizing and name-calling. There is absolutely no one of any other political ideology that is his equivalent in any type of media. He holds more personal responsibility for the division in this country than any other single person in it.  I wouldn't wish cancer on even my worst enemy, but when he dies I certainly won't shed any tears over him. Hell I wouldn't pour half an ounce of the sh!ttiest malt liquor in the world on the ground for his fat, bloviating ass. He is a festering hemorrhoid inside the ass of the US. Fuk him. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

33 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah, it's just Rush. 

Those in glass houses and all that.

Did anyone say it was just Rush? Nice deflection though. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,129]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

It's not just him. But Rush has been doing this sh!t for 35 years and counting. Ya know how pissy all the Trumpers get over being called racist nazi morons for the last 4 years? Rush has been doing the same sort of thing to Libs for nearly 4 decades. Constant demonizing, dehumanizing and name-calling. There is absolutely no one of any other political ideology that is his equivalent in any type of media. He holds more personal responsibility for the division in this country than any other single person in it.  I wouldn't wish cancer on even my worst enemy, but when this dies I certainly won't shed any tears over him. Hell I wouldn't pour half an ounce of the sh!ttiest malt liquor in the world on the ground for his fat, bloviating ass. He is a festering hemorrhoid inside the ass of the US. Fuk him. 

And the Democrats have been doing this for 60+ years.  What's your point?  That 35 years is the tipping point for you?  Or you just want to about Rush but not take any responsibility OR culpability for the part YOUR side plays in the rhetoric too?

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40 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

That's what she said. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,129]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Did anyone say it was just Rush? Nice deflection though. 

When all you do is bring him up, it implies that you aren't really paying attention to YOUR side of the aisle.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

When all you do is bring him up, it implies that you aren't really paying attention to YOUR side of the aisle.

Huh?  How many times have I brought up Rush on here?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,129]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Huh?  How many times have I brought up Rush on here?

At least twice now.

But it's not just you.

[5-Points 3,566]

47 minutes ago, Reality said:

He wouldn't need to. Low rent, lightly trafficked.

HTH

Even when he does come around it doesn't seem like he brings the ban hammer with him. He just throws a padlock on the thread and tells everybody to knock it off. 

I figured it would take somebody to get him to give somebody a timeout. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,501]

6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

When all you do is bring him up, it implies that you aren't really paying attention to YOUR side of the aisle.

He doesn’t have a side of the aisle, remember? He’s a centrist. Not only does he lie to others, he lies to himself. He’s even like that. 

[Fnord 2,292]

9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

And the Democrats have been doing this for 60+ years.  

WTF are you going on about now? ALL the democrats have been going on the radio and trying to convince listeners that people of different political ideology are the enemies of America? For 60+ years? Got a link for this? No. No you don't. And if you don't have anything better than a whatabout, maybe you really got nothin. Go ahead and show me how I'm wrong about Rush. I'll wait. I have time, which is more than that POS has.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

28 minutes ago, Fnord said:

It's not just him. But Rush has been doing this sh!t for 35 years and counting. Ya know how pissy all the Trumpers get over being called racist nazi morons for the last 4 years? Rush has been doing the same sort of thing to Libs for nearly 4 decades. Constant demonizing, dehumanizing and name-calling. There is absolutely no one of any other political ideology that is his equivalent in any type of media. He holds more personal responsibility for the division in this country than any other single person in it.  I wouldn't wish cancer on even my worst enemy, but when he dies I certainly won't shed any tears over him. Hell I wouldn't pour half an ounce of the sh!ttiest malt liquor in the world on the ground for his fat, bloviating ass. He is a festering hemorrhoid inside the ass of the US. Fuk him. 

I hate to break it to you, but hardly anyone listens to AM radio compared to the number of people who, say, DAILY commute thru an area that has a bunch of homeless, trash, needles, poop etc.  People SEE that and then hear how their politicians are doing nothing but renaming schools.  That's how people lose faith in leadership.  If cities were getting cleaned up and government was less and less of a burden, you can absolutely sure trust would increase.

People today are seeing more and more trash and homeless under overpasses and on streets and empty storefronts everywhere and YOU want to tell them the problem is people complaining, yeah they WILL think you are batshlt crazy.

[Fnord 2,292]

9 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

I hate to break it to you, but hardly anyone listens to AM radio compared to the number of people who, say, DAILY commute thru an area that has a bunch of homeless, trash, needles, poop etc.  People SEE that and then hear how their politicians are doing nothing but renaming schools.  That's how people lose faith in leadership.  If cities were getting cleaned up and government was less and less of a burden, you can absolutely sure trust would increase.

People today are seeing more and more trash and homeless under overpasses and on streets and empty storefronts everywhere and YOU want to tell them the problem is people complaining, yeah they WILL think you are batshlt crazy.

How is your statement here even tangentially related to what I just said about Rush?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

How is your statement here even tangentially related to what I just said about Rush?

You claimed he holds more responsibility than any one else.  I'd argue the overwhelming blame lies with elected officials not doing their job, and everyone knows it.

[Fnord 2,292]

2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

You claimed he holds more responsibility than any one else.  I'd argue the overwhelming blame lies with elected officials not doing their job, and everyone knows it.

OK, gotcha. As a collective, of course you're probably right. But I would be hard pressed to find any one politician that has had more to do with the partisan divide than him. 

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

OK, gotcha. As a collective, of course you're probably right. But I would be hard pressed to find any one politician that has had more to do with the partisan divide than him. 

Of course you would. 

Off the top of my head. Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. All three have had more to do with the partisan divide than a radio show host. 

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16 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Of course you would. 

Off the top of my head. Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. All three have had more to do with the partisan divide than a radio show host. 

Obama was definitely the divider in chief. And he’s become worse with it. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

14 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Of course you would. 

Off the top of my head. Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. All three have had more to do with the partisan divide than a radio show host. 

I disagree. I don’t think nearly as many people pay attention, with the exception of presidents, of what most politicians say. Now if you’d have named a left leaning news personality like Maddow, I would agree.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Texit:  a Texas lawmaker plans to submit for referendum for Texas to secde from the Union.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texit-test-texas-lawmaker-floats-referendum-for-state-to-secede-from-us

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

OK, gotcha. As a collective, of course you're probably right. But I would be hard pressed to find any one politician that has had more to do with the partisan divide than him. 

Obama saying "if you like your doctor, then you can keep your doctor" and then people not keeping their doctor puts Obama way higher than Rush. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,501]

6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Obama saying "if you like your doctor, then you can keep your doctor" and then people not keeping their doctor puts Obama way higher than Rush. 

The left will never know how much Obamacare screwed people. They don’t know anyone who was screwed. And it’s not like their media ever spoke of the downside.  When a friend of mine that is self employed walked me through it I was blown away. He basically had to give away thousands of dollars for worse health insurance. Most of the left is in the dark about real world ramifications. Just like the Hunter story was kept in the dark. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The 4 states have responded to the Texas lawsuit, with Pennsylvania officials calling the whole thing "seditious" or in other words, this is mutiny by 18 states. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/2020-election-supreme-court-texas-trump/index.html

Battleground states issue blistering rebukes to Texas' lawsuit to invalidate millions of votes

By Ariane de Vogue and Paul LeBlanc, CNN

Updated 6:49 PM ET, Thu December 10, 2020

Washington (CNN)Each of the four battleground states targeted by a Texas lawsuit seeking to overturn President Donald Trump's election defeat issued blistering briefs at the Supreme Court on Thursday, with Pennsylvania officials going so far as to call the effort a "seditious abuse of the judicial process."

The court filings from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin come a day after Trump asked the Supreme Court to intervene in the lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton seeking to invalidate millions of votes in their states. The lawsuit amounts to an unprecedented request for legal intervention in an election despite there being no evidence of widespread fraud.

"Texas's effort to get this Court to pick the next President has no basis in law or fact. The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and unmistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated," wrote Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro.

The Texas lawsuit, Shapiro said, rested on a "surreal alternate reality."

It is unclear when the Supreme Court will act on the lawsuit.

 

[Voltaire 5,317]

I haven’t heard the Rush Limbaugh show in decades and don’t know what he’s saying now but if he transitioned from Bush Republican to Trump Republican, great. It use to be that he irritated me. I know President Trump gave him the Medal of Freedom award at the last SotU, so that indicates that they are on good terms. Whatever he’s up to now, I don’t know. I have only read this page and have yet to click the link but I am sure its highly controversial.

[Voltaire 5,317]

8 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

The 4 states have responded to the Texas lawsuit, with Pennsylvania officials calling the whole thing "seditious" or in other words, this is mutiny by 18 states. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/2020-election-supreme-court-texas-trump/index.html

Battleground states issue blistering rebukes to Texas' lawsuit to invalidate millions of votes

By Ariane de Vogue and Paul LeBlanc, CNN

Updated 6:49 PM ET, Thu December 10, 2020

Washington (CNN)Each of the four battleground states targeted by a Texas lawsuit seeking to overturn President Donald Trump's election defeat issued blistering briefs at the Supreme Court on Thursday, with Pennsylvania officials going so far as to call the effort a "seditious abuse of the judicial process."

The court filings from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin come a day after Trump asked the Supreme Court to intervene in the lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton seeking to invalidate millions of votes in their states. The lawsuit amounts to an unprecedented request for legal intervention in an election despite there being no evidence of widespread fraud.

"Texas's effort to get this Court to pick the next President has no basis in law or fact. The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and unmistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated," wrote Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro.

The Texas lawsuit, Shapiro said, rested on a "surreal alternate reality."

It is unclear when the Supreme Court will act on the lawsuit.

 

I like how they keep repeating over and over again how there is no evidence of widespread fraud without acknowledging the Mt. Everett size pile of evidence and the more that would be uncovered if the Dems weren’t holding out rabidly to keep the dubious ballots from being looked at.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,501]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

I like how they keep repeating over and over again how there is no evidence of widespread fraud without acknowledging the Mt. Everett size pile of evidence and the more that would be uncovered if the Dems weren’t holding out rabidly to keep the dubious ballots from being looked at.

 No fraud! 
Let’s just do an audit then?

Racist! 

[Voltaire 5,317]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 No fraud! 
Let’s just do an audit then?

Racist! 

The Dems know they cheated, we know they cheated, the smoking gun is in the fake ballots that they wouldn’t let poll watchers observe and they still won’t let outside observers near. Hopefully SCOTUS pries open the ballots and clears up the mess.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Democrat are preparing to blame Trump for any violence that occurs.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/washington-post-trump-danger-election-051241380.html

Washington Post Editorial Board: 'Danger Is Growing' From Trump's Election Lies

Josephine HarveyReporter, HuffPost

Wed, December 9, 2020, 9:12 PM PST

The Washington Post editorial board published a column Wednesday warning that President Donald Trump’s lies about the election may lead to violence if Republicans continue to inflame tensions with their complicity.

Threats of violence are already surfacing. The editorial noted that officials in seven states have reported receiving threats or harassment in the wake of the Nov. 3 election. The Arizona Republican Party asked its Twitter followers Tuesday if they were willing to give their lives in the cause of overturning Trump’s loss.

Last week, Gabriel Sterling, a top Republican election official in Georgia, begged for Trump to stop, saying, “Someone’s going to get shot, someone’s going to get killed. It’s not right.”

Republican leaders may believe staying silent about the election will allow passions to dissipate with time. But passions aren’t dissipating, “they are exploding,” the board wrote.

The majority of Republicans in Congress have not publicly acknowledged the reality of Trump’s election loss by 74 Electoral College votes and more than 7 million popular votes nationally.

“Republicans across the country, from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) down to county GOP chairs, are inflaming them with their encouragement or their acquiescence,” the editorial continued.

“Violence seems ever more possible when President-elect Joe Biden’s victory becomes official — if not before.”

[Voltaire 5,317]

I don’t know what to say about violence. Hopefully there isn’t any. Since my ass is overseas, I won’t be tempted to participate in any. It is highly upsetting though to see that the election in my home state was clearly rigged. That just doesn’t sit well.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,501]

18 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Democrat are preparing to blame Trump for any violence that occurs.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/washington-post-trump-danger-election-051241380.html

Washington Post Editorial Board: 'Danger Is Growing' From Trump's Election Lies

Josephine HarveyReporter, HuffPost

Wed, December 9, 2020, 9:12 PM PST

The Washington Post editorial board published a column Wednesday warning that President Donald Trump’s lies about the election may lead to violence if Republicans continue to inflame tensions with their complicity.

Threats of violence are already surfacing. The editorial noted that officials in seven states have reported receiving threats or harassment in the wake of the Nov. 3 election. The Arizona Republican Party asked its Twitter followers Tuesday if they were willing to give their lives in the cause of overturning Trump’s loss.

Last week, Gabriel Sterling, a top Republican election official in Georgia, begged for Trump to stop, saying, “Someone’s going to get shot, someone’s going to get killed. It’s not right.”

Republican leaders may believe staying silent about the election will allow passions to dissipate with time. But passions aren’t dissipating, “they are exploding,” the board wrote.

The majority of Republicans in Congress have not publicly acknowledged the reality of Trump’s election loss by 74 Electoral College votes and more than 7 million popular votes nationally.

“Republicans across the country, from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) down to county GOP chairs, are inflaming them with their encouragement or their acquiescence,” the editorial continued.

“Violence seems ever more possible when President-elect Joe Biden’s victory becomes official — if not before.”

I’ve grown used to political violence since last spring. As long as it’s mostly peaceful I don’t see a big problem.  

[nobody 2,691]

Texas threatens to secede after every democrat wins the presidency.

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Rush spews lies and hatred on air.  He's one of the reasons the media is terrible and can't be trusted.

https://newsone.com/16051/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/09/13/rush-limbaughs-irresponsible-irma-fearmongering/659508001/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=rush-limbaugh

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-presidential-medal-of-freedom-state-of-the-union-outrageous-quotes/

Someone took the time to write an article about him saying this? Why?

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh was back in the news this week after he suggested there could be a looming civil war between liberals and conservatives in America.

He said on his eponymous radio show that “there cannot be a peaceful coexistence” and declared states with right-wing voters were “trending toward secession,”

 How is this racist in the least or even spewing hatred? It's getting to that point now that the democrats have way way crossed the line of decent behavior and it is becoming beyond repairable. Sorry if your feelers get hurt but you will eventually have to face the facts that this is how a lot of people feel about the left. With good reason. You libs all want to control speech, but you can screw off because that is something you can't take away even though you are all trying so hard to do so.

[Utilit99 4,099]

44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ve grown used to political violence since last spring. As long as it’s mostly peaceful I don’t see a big problem.  

It's a miracle the violence suddenly stopped after creepy joey won and pelosi called off the dogs. Pulled back her underground troupes.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Of course you would. 

Off the top of my head. Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. All three have had more to do with the partisan divide than a radio show host. 

Absolutely true. hussein's identity politics being #1 agenda for 8 years, pelosi tearing up state of the union address and telling her sheep to boycott speeches and hearings or dress like a bunch of nazis for them. Schumer, where does one start on that doofus? 

[Voltaire 5,317]

41 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Someone took the time to write an article about him saying this? Why?

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh was back in the news this week after he suggested there could be a looming civil war between liberals and conservatives in America.

He said on his eponymous radio show that “there cannot be a peaceful coexistence” and declared states with right-wing voters were “trending toward secession,”

 How is this racist in the least or even spewing hatred? It's getting to that point now that the democrats have way way crossed the line of decent behavior and it is becoming beyond repairable. Sorry if your feelers get hurt but you will eventually have to face the facts that this is how a lot of people feel about the left. With good reason. You libs all want to control speech, but you can screw off because that is something you can't take away even though you are all trying so hard to do so.

 I don't think a breakup would be bad since we're so far apart and both sides hate to live under a government where the other side is in control. I do wonder how to go about that as it's not state vs state but rural/urban across pretty much all states with suburbs split either way.

I mean, I had already thought this months before the election and made a post along those lines. We have different news and live in different realities, but now with a rigged election to contend over that one side will not accept, we're really at a highly stressful time. We'll see how things go. Personally, it's gone too far now. I'd love to be done of the left and wash my hands of them and walk away with mutual consent as I know many of them feel the same way about us.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,501]

53 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

It's a miracle the violence suddenly stopped after creepy joey won and pelosi called off the dogs. Pulled back her underground troupes.

Just wait until Trump takes the Proud Boys off stand by. He’s gonna send the signal up. It’s like the bat signal but in the shape of a dollar sign. When they get activated watch out. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

9 hours ago, Jetdoc said:

I literally fell out of my chair laughing at this post.

Literally? Been drinking a lot or do you have certain unfortunate medical problems?

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 hours ago, Fnord said:

It's not just him. But Rush has been doing this sh!t for 35 years and counting.

What did he do?

[Utilit99 4,099]

14 hours ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

Rush Limbaugh loves America so much that he hates when someone disrespects it by kneeling during the national anthem, however seeing it torn apart by states seceding is a meh to him.

 

What an American.

 

 

Who would want to be part of the socialist left in this country? I don't. I prefer to not be a part of it but I respect their opinion as long as it doesn't need to apply to me. Others feel the same way. Deal with it that others don't agree with the way you want to live your life and let's separate into different countries. I'll go to the one that uses the US constitution, and you go to the one that wants big government socialism. Easy.