LeSean McCoy Released - Signed by KC

[cmh6476 1,025]

Andy Reid is trying to win a Lombardi trophy.  He added a piece that fits very well to the offense, current players and for depth.  How many teams will see their #1 starting RB suit up all 16 games and hopefully 3 more.  This is simply about trying to field the best team you have, and working to get the ball into the hands of every playmaker who suits up.

 

So yeah, there may be more consistent fantasy rb's on other teams.

[oldtimer 84]

Have to admit, I am enjoying watching fantasy guys fret over a RB who was absolutely nothing prior to joining the Chiefs.  So many people here that talk about research and knowing who you are drafting....  Why didn't anyone that drafted Williams look into his history?  Fools Gold.  Seriously, this was a bad idea from the start to draft him as high as he went.  He will likely make you look good in Week One, while Shady gets familiar with the offense, but obviously Reid isn't a fan of Williams.  He brought in Hyde.  Now he brings in McCoy and pays him more than he probably had to.  The point is Reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season.  THREE games is all he has put together and people were jumping on him like he was an All-Pro.  The same people who typically like to point out to everyone else how/why they are so great, or mock other people for mistakes.  This one couldn't have ended any other way and hopefully the next time someone wastes a 2nd round pick, or even considers someone like Williams in the 1st round, they see a shrink.  I just finished reading some of the old posts regarding Williams.  90% of this board was all over him, while about 3 of us kept trying to point out his MAJOR faults, including posting his stats, injury history and the fact he wasn't ever meant to be more than a 3rd down back.  Once he is out of KC, he's finished.  Reid makes everyone look good.  I drafted in a league Friday afternoon and Williams went at the 2.02.  Nice.  Tell me that owner isn't crapping purple twinkies right now.  It isn't that he won't put up some numbers, it's the VALUE.  He should still manage some good games, provided he's healthy, but he's always been a RB who had 5th round or later value.  Shiny new things seem to blind some owners.  

[stonewall 647]

A little early to write off DWill as dead there Oldtimer....and I got him in the 3rd (and early 4th round in one), btw....so there was already some risk built into his ADP,  based on a limited sample size. Obviously it happened in some drafts, since you witnessed it....but I didn't see him go in the 2nd in any of my 5 drafts.

Yes, the Shady acquisition is not good news....but did you predict this? Did KC? Of course not. Nobody drafted DWill thinking that they would bring in someone else at the 12th hour. Nobody knew....not even Reid. 

In fact, Reid just said they watched Shady's preseason film and determined that he can still play. He also said he told McCoy, before he signed him, that DWill is a "great" player, which not only gives us some insight into his assessment of DWill as their RB, but would also seem to insinuate a pre-signing agreement to at least be willing to tolerate a limited role of some sort. Then he went on to say that they view both backs as starting RBs. Not necessarily both starting for them now, but being starting caliber....which is a good thing to have, particularly on a team with Super Bowl aspirations. Reid also said McCoy needs to learn the playbook before getting major playing time, and stated that the current Chiefs offense is very different than what they once ran in Philly.

With these comments considered, I see McCoy stepping into Darwin's presumed role to start the season and then taking a lead role from DWill should he underperform or get hurt.

Of course, Shady could go on to do the same thing Curtis Martin did at age 31 for the Jets in 2004...only time will tell.

 

[LoOnAtIk 75]

46 minutes ago, stonewall said:

A little early to write off DWill as dead there Oldtimer....and I got him in the 3rd (and early 4th round in one), btw....so there was already some risk built into his ADP,  based on a limited sample size. Obviously it happened in some drafts, since you witnessed it....but I didn't see him go in the 2nd in any of my 5 drafts.

Yes, the Shady acquisition is not good news....but did you predict this? Did KC? Of course not. Nobody drafted DWill thinking that they would bring in someone else at the 12th hour. Nobody knew....not even Reid. 

In fact, Reid just said they watched Shady's preseason film and determined that he can still play. He also said he told McCoy, before he signed him, that DWill is a "great" player, which not only gives us some insight into his assessment of DWill as their RB, but would also seem to insinuate a pre-signing agreement to at least be willing to tolerate a limited role of some sort. Then he went on to say that they view both backs as starting RBs. Not necessarily both starting for them now, but being starting caliber....which is a good thing to have, particularly on a team with Super Bowl aspirations. Reid also said McCoy needs to learn the playbook before getting major playing time, and stated that the current Chiefs offense is very different than what they once ran in Philly.

With these comments considered, I see McCoy stepping into Darwin's presumed role to start the season and then taking a lead role from DWill should he underperform or get hurt.

Of course, Shady could go on to do the same thing Curtis Martin did at age 31 for the Jets in 2004...only time will tell.

 

Reid saying he’s a “great” player says absolutely nothing about what he truly thinks.

 

You think he’s gonna step in front of the media and say “Damien is just ok, we’re actually trying to replace him.”

 

its just coach jargon. He’s going to say anyone on his roster is “great”.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Also nobody in their right minds is selling high on shady right now right? 

 

Thats the potential season winning lottery ticket. I assume 100% of owners are holding unless they’re being blown away with offers.

[stonewall 647]

7 minutes ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Also nobody in their right minds is selling high on shady right now right? 

 

Thats the potential season winning lottery ticket. I assume 100% of owners are holding unless they’re being blown away with offers.

If you owned him, would you trade Shady away for DWill right now?

[LoOnAtIk 75]

20 minutes ago, stonewall said:

If you owned him, would you trade Shady away for DWill right now?

No chance.

[jrokh 608]

43 minutes ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Also nobody in their right minds is selling high on shady right now right? 

 

Thats the potential season winning lottery ticket. I assume 100% of owners are holding unless they’re being blown away with offers.

Shady is old, he's not about to become some league winning bell cow. The fact that he is on KC is the only thing that would make him rosterable… Dwill will still outproduce him until he inevitably gets hurt.

[bobby heenan 60]

1 hour ago, oldtimer said:

Have to admit, I am enjoying watching fantasy guys fret over a RB who was absolutely nothing prior to joining the Chiefs.  So many people here that talk about research and knowing who you are drafting....  Why didn't anyone that drafted Williams look into his history?  Fools Gold.  Seriously, this was a bad idea from the start to draft him as high as he went.  He will likely make you look good in Week One, while Shady gets familiar with the offense, but obviously Reid isn't a fan of Williams.  He brought in Hyde.  Now he brings in McCoy and pays him more than he probably had to.  The point is Reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season.  THREE games is all he has put together and people were jumping on him like he was an All-Pro.  The same people who typically like to point out to everyone else how/why they are so great, or mock other people for mistakes.  This one couldn't have ended any other way and hopefully the next time someone wastes a 2nd round pick, or even considers someone like Williams in the 1st round, they see a shrink.  I just finished reading some of the old posts regarding Williams.  90% of this board was all over him, while about 3 of us kept trying to point out his MAJOR faults, including posting his stats, injury history and the fact he wasn't ever meant to be more than a 3rd down back.  Once he is out of KC, he's finished.  Reid makes everyone look good.  I drafted in a league Friday afternoon and Williams went at the 2.02.  Nice.  Tell me that owner isn't crapping purple twinkies right now.  It isn't that he won't put up some numbers, it's the VALUE.  He should still manage some good games, provided he's healthy, but he's always been a RB who had 5th round or later value.  Shiny new things seem to blind some owners.  

actually if you watch football you would have seen that williams is not bad....I watched him in miami which is a dumpster fire....i picked him up a couple of years ago later in the year when miami went with a commitee of him and drake...and i saw an underrated player.....then when i watched him in KC(Im a pats fan/season ticket holder) i saw a back who fits in real nice in that offense

youre looking at what reid does and thinks "hes trying to replace him"....no...he actually re-signed williams...this is the new age NFL.....just like corners the running back position is one where you will need tremendous depth......you better find 6 corners who can play because at some point youre gonna need them all to play....guys will get hurt

look at the patriots....have an elite receiving back...a talented young guy like michel who looked good and strong during the playoff run....but they didnt pass a chance to add more talent to the backfield and added harris.......it cost reid nothing to add mccoy other than some money thats not his...he spent no capital....

 

i drafted willliams late in the 2nd last week in a high stakes 12 team ppr league(i also drafted mccoy later in an unrelated move so i dont feel so bad) but im not crapping twinkies or anything...i won this league last year taking royce freeman in the 3rd....im not worried

 

im not saying youre wrong....or you will be wrong....this split could be a headache trying to figure out when setting your lineup....but i dont think its an indictment on williams here....hyde was going and reid had no way of certainly knowing mccoy would be available to him or even sign with him......its the nfl...reid is trying to make  a superbowl run....hes adding depth and a guy that is pretty talented...

you say "shiny new things blind people"....but there are plenty of reputable FF sites that had him ranked as a 2nd round guy too..ones I pay for and have used for years and trust.....

[bobby heenan 60]

48 minutes ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Also nobody in their right minds is selling high on shady right now right? 

 

Thats the potential season winning lottery ticket. I assume 100% of owners are holding unless they’re being blown away with offers.

i actually drafted shady later after taking williams......completely unrelated as my draft was last sunday in my high stakes main league....i got lucky...i was kinda hoping to see shady go to houston or something......but im not all that worried 

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Can we not with the “If you actually watched the games” thing lol

 

Anyone and everyone on here should agree that the MOST important trait a RB in KCs offense can have is the ability to keep Mahomes upright.

 

if Williams has any holes in his pass protection, he won’t see the field at all.

[bobby heenan 60]

1 minute ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Can we not with the “If you actually watched the games” thing lol

 

Anyone and everyone on here should agree that the MOST important trait a RB in KCs offense can have is the ability to keep Mahomes upright.

 

if Williams has any holes in his pass protection, he won’t see the field at all.

im saying though...if you watched williams he fits the offense perfectly...and i think overall hes underrated....yeah hes a little small but hardly not the smallest guy carrying a football in the NFL.....i watched him in miami and thought he was pretty decent.....the way the guy was talking its almost like he just read a guys log on pro football reference and had never seen him play

the guy said "reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season"...yet reid resigned him! strange! also reid had no way of knowing mccoy would be available to him last week and he was still going to dump hyde either way.....how do any signs point to him trying to replace williams since the end of last year? 

the pats have james white and sony michel....then spent a  3rd rounder on a rb.....its depth....teams are watching what happened to a guy like gurley and guys that get overworked with tons of touches....they get banged up and burnt out.....i just dont see how someone can look at everything and come to the conclusion that reid has been trying to replace williams

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Drafted Mccoy and Singletary today still. They are my rb 2 and rb 3, so not quite as good of value as before the news broke. But the rest of my roster makes me feel reasonably comfortable

[LoOnAtIk 75]

6 minutes ago, bobby heenan said:

im saying though...if you watched williams he fits the offense perfectly...and i think overall hes underrated....yeah hes a little small but hardly not the smallest guy carrying a football in the NFL.....i watched him in miami and thought he was pretty decent.....the way the guy was talking its almost like he just read a guys log on pro football reference and had never seen him play

the guy said "reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season"...yet reid resigned him! strange! also reid had no way of knowing mccoy would be available to him last week and he was still going to dump hyde either way.....how do any signs point to him trying to replace williams since the end of last year? 

the pats have james white and sony michel....then spent a  3rd rounder on a rb.....its depth....teams are watching what happened to a guy like gurley and guys that get overworked with tons of touches....they get banged up and burnt out.....i just dont see how someone can look at everything and come to the conclusion that reid has been trying to replace williams

Can’t compare the signing of 2 different veterans to that of drafting a rookie for depth (which the chiefs did also). 

 

Adding “depth” in terms of warm bodies is usually done end of draft or undrafted free agents or even practice squad.

 

You simply don’t go out and guarantee a veteran RB for $3 million RIGHT BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS for just “depth”. 

 

They didn’t know McCoy was going to be available when they signed Hyde or drafted Thompson. It was a surprise release and the Chiefs jumped all over it and signed him immediately. 

 

The writing is on the wall in my opinion. They simply do not trust Damien Williams.

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

2 hours ago, oldtimer said:

Have to admit, I am enjoying watching fantasy guys fret over a RB who was absolutely nothing prior to joining the Chiefs.  So many people here that talk about research and knowing who you are drafting....  Why didn't anyone that drafted Williams look into his history?  Fools Gold.  Seriously, this was a bad idea from the start to draft him as high as he went.  He will likely make you look good in Week One, while Shady gets familiar with the offense, but obviously Reid isn't a fan of Williams.  He brought in Hyde.  Now he brings in McCoy and pays him more than he probably had to.  The point is Reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season.  THREE games is all he has put together and people were jumping on him like he was an All-Pro.  The same people who typically like to point out to everyone else how/why they are so great, or mock other people for mistakes.  This one couldn't have ended any other way and hopefully the next time someone wastes a 2nd round pick, or even considers someone like Williams in the 1st round, they see a shrink.  I just finished reading some of the old posts regarding Williams.  90% of this board was all over him, while about 3 of us kept trying to point out his MAJOR faults, including posting his stats, injury history and the fact he wasn't ever meant to be more than a 3rd down back.  Once he is out of KC, he's finished.  Reid makes everyone look good.  I drafted in a league Friday afternoon and Williams went at the 2.02.  Nice.  Tell me that owner isn't crapping purple twinkies right now.  It isn't that he won't put up some numbers, it's the VALUE.  He should still manage some good games, provided he's healthy, but he's always been a RB who had 5th round or later value.  Shiny new things seem to blind some owners.  

You’re probably right but shouldn’t you let this thing play out a bit before the I told you so’s?

[weepaws 3,191]

I think McCoy has the ability to blow up DWill based solely on his ability in space in the passing game, on a passing team. 

D Will should be the rb1 based on rush att, but when it comes to those rec targets and rec yards and rec tds, that will hurt any D Will owner. 

[stonewall 647]

23 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Drafted Mccoy and Singletary today still. They are my rb 2 and rb 3, so not quite as good of value as before the news broke. But the rest of my roster makes me feel reasonably comfortable

I am assuming you got Mahomie and Kelce to lead the way?

[bobby heenan 60]

45 minutes ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Can’t compare the signing of 2 different veterans to that of drafting a rookie for depth (which the chiefs did also). 

 

Adding “depth” in terms of warm bodies is usually done end of draft or undrafted free agents or even practice squad.

 

You simply don’t go out and guarantee a veteran RB for $3 million RIGHT BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS for just “depth”. 

 

They didn’t know McCoy was going to be available when they signed Hyde or drafted Thompson. It was a surprise release and the Chiefs jumped all over it and signed him immediately. 

 

The writing is on the wall in my opinion. They simply do not trust Damien Williams.

 

 

but they also were dumping hyde when they added mccoy........and williams didnt have to be brought back.....the chiefs resigned him in the offseason.....yes they jumped on mccoy because hes a veteran and has alot more experience than thompson and the other williams.......

and no....adding depth is done year round whenever the opportunity arises......its a year round job in these front offices scouring for depth ....theres no certain range or time of year........you are talking here like 3 million for a year is some huge number or commitment.....lol......you bring up hyde and mccoy as if one wasnt leaving as the other arrived.....they arent still both there

[bobby heenan 60]

4 backs guy....willia

49 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re probably right but shouldn’t you let this thing play out a bit before the I told you so’s?

"The point is Reid has been trying to replace him since the end of the season. "

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001004709/article/damien-williams-signs-2year-chiefs-contract-extension

[bobby heenan 60]

suddenly when you draft a rb and bring one in from free agency you are trying to replace the top guy on the depth chart....i guess the rams are looking to replace todd gurley

 

and before you guys start going crazy and telling me im stupid to compare williams and gurley Im not and Im not that dumb....just saying.....you guys act as if drafting a thompson and bringing in a hyde is some telltale sign they wanted to replace williams....when they signed him to a two year deal...

this thing could be a complete headache from a FF perspective for owners....not saying it might not be....but 3-4 million for 1 year is not a big commitment here with mccoy

[stonewall 647]

1 hour ago, LoOnAtIk said:

You simply don’t go out and guarantee a veteran RB for $3 million RIGHT BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS for just “depth”. 

Come on, man...3 mil is a drop in the bucket these days. Heck, the Saints paid ADP a guaranteed 3.5 mil in 2017, and we all know how that worked out.

Yes, different team and situation, but the point is clear (I hope)......a mere 3 mil/one year contract certainly does not implicate expected or actual usage.

It's all gonna depend on how DWill performs, coupled with how good a 31 year old Shady actually still is.

[sderk 1,040]

McCoy is the man in KC til he gets hurt.

[rallo 136]

I wanted a piece of the KC backfield so bad, just couldn't pull the trigger as McCoy and Williams went too early for how this backfield is shaping up. Does this mean the Darwin lottery ticket is no longer an option?

[AxeElf 787]

Just now, rallo said:

I wanted a piece of the KC backfield so bad, just couldn't pull the trigger as McCoy and Williams went too early for how this backfield is shaping up. Does this mean the Darwin lottery ticket is no longer an option?

Pretty much.  Darwin becomes a gadget player like Tavon Austin now.

[stonewall 647]

1 minute ago, rallo said:

. Does this mean the Darwin lottery ticket is no longer an option?

Well, it would take a couple of injuries in front of him now.....errr, kinda like last season for DWill.

 

I'm holding.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

2 hours ago, stonewall said:

I am assuming you got Mahomie and Kelce to lead the way?

I actually started Kelce then Hill. I could have taken Mahomes in the third, but I decided to go Henry and the Mayfield in the 4th

[stonewall 647]

2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I actually started Kelce then Hill. I could have taken Mahomes in the third, but I decided to go Henry and the Mayfield in the 4th

Still like it. Hedges your bet a bit.

I like Henry this year and have quite a bit of stock. Was carson still avilable there?

[LoOnAtIk 75]

2 hours ago, stonewall said:

Come on, man...3 mil is a drop in the bucket these days. Heck, the Saints paid ADP a guaranteed 3.5 mil in 2017, and we all know how that worked out.

Yes, different team and situation, but the point is clear (I hope)......a mere 3 mil/one year contract certainly does not implicate expected or actual usage.

It's all gonna depend on how DWill performs, coupled with how good a 31 year old Shady actually still is.

ADP played all of his preseason games with NO it’s not the same. Then they cut him and brought nobody in. Chiefs cut Hyde and immediately got McCoy. Show me any RB that got this much $ literally right before the season. Not too many backup RBs making more than $3 million.

[stonewall 647]

27 minutes ago, LoOnAtIk said:

 Not too many backup RBs making more than $3 million.

Several, actually. Of course Shady's situation is unique.....rarely happens the way his situation went down. Once again, Shady may set the world on fire....just too early to tell. However, it is my personal opinion that although he will certainly get some touches.... it will likely take gross underperformance by DWill or an injury to him to bring that scenario to fruition.

BTW, here are a few backup/special role RB's making 3 mil or more/year for your reading enjoyment:

Gio Bernard - 5.2 mil

Burkhead - 3.25 mil

D. Lewis -  - 5 mil

Lat Murray - 3.6 mil

Chris Thompson - 3.5 mil

Jalen Richard - 3.1 mil

Mike Davis - 3 mil

Heck, even Raheem Mostert is clocking 2.9 mil

As I have stated all along, the amount paid to Shady is not an accurate or dependable indicator of his upcoming usage, whether much or a little.

 

 

[AxeElf 787]

57 minutes ago, stonewall said:

Several, actually. Of course Shady's situation is unique.....rarely happens the way his situation went down. Once again, Shady may set the world on fire....just too early to tell. However, it is my personal opinion that although he will certainly get some touches.... it will likely take gross underperformance by DWill or an injury to him to bring that scenario to fruition.

BTW, here are a few backup/special role RB's making 3 mil or more/year for your reading enjoyment:

Gio Bernard - 5.2 mil

Burkhead - 3.25 mil

D. Lewis -  - 5 mil

Lat Murray - 3.6 mil

Chris Thompson - 3.5 mil

Jalen Richard - 3.1 mil

Mike Davis - 3 mil

Heck, even Raheem Mostert is clocking 2.9 mil

As I have stated all along, the amount paid to Shady is not an accurate or dependable indicator of his upcoming usage, whether much or a little.

This is a little off-topic, but do you know who the 7th highest paid RB in the NFL is...?

 

Wait for it...

 

Jerick McKinnon.

[stonewall 647]

6 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

This is a little off-topic, but do you know who the 7th highest paid RB in the NFL is...?

 

Wait for it...

 

Jerick McKinnon.

6th, according to my sources.....unless/until Zeke and/or Gordon get bumped.

7.5 mil/year!

[LoOnAtIk 75]

1 hour ago, stonewall said:

Several, actually. Of course Shady's situation is unique.....rarely happens the way his situation went down. Once again, Shady may set the world on fire....just too early to tell. However, it is my personal opinion that although he will certainly get some touches.... it will likely take gross underperformance by DWill or an injury to him to bring that scenario to fruition.

BTW, here are a few backup/special role RB's making 3 mil or more/year for your reading enjoyment:

Gio Bernard - 5.2 mil

Burkhead - 3.25 mil

D. Lewis -  - 5 mil

Lat Murray - 3.6 mil

Chris Thompson - 3.5 mil

Jalen Richard - 3.1 mil

Mike Davis - 3 mil

Heck, even Raheem Mostert is clocking 2.9 mil

As I have stated all along, the amount paid to Shady is not an accurate or dependable indicator of his upcoming usage, whether much or a little.

 

 

All of the above mentioned are in the top 22 of the highest paid RBs in the league.

All of those guys were signed at some point because of team need/situation.

Also half of the ones you mentioned were not signed as free agents.

[AxeElf 787]

50 minutes ago, stonewall said:

6th, according to my sources.....unless/until Zeke and/or Gordon get bumped.

7.5 mil/year!

You show me yours and I'll show you mine...

Highest Paid RBs

Axually, that's not even the site I first saw it on, but it's the first one that came up when I googled it tonight.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

8 hours ago, stonewall said:

Still like it. Hedges your bet a bit.

I like Henry this year and have quite a bit of stock. Was carson still avilable there?

He was not. He went early third I believe. I would have taken Carson if he fell

[stonewall 647]

7 hours ago, AxeElf said:

You show me yours and I'll show you mine...

Highest Paid RBs

Axually, that's not even the site I first saw it on, but it's the first one that came up when I googled it tonight.

Yeah....6th or 7th, what's the difference? Still crazy what MCkinnon is clocking. What's even crazier is that 57 NFL RB's are making more than Kamara is under his rookie contract.

The one I used didn't list Shady (coincidence?), and yours still had him at #5 with the Bills.

 

https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/

[oldtimer 84]

14 hours ago, LoOnAtIk said:

Also nobody in their right minds is selling high on shady right now right? 

 

Thats the potential season winning lottery ticket. I assume 100% of owners are holding unless they’re being blown away with offers.

I posted this in another thread, but I did a lot of drafting this weekend.  I own McCoy in every league I drafted in and took him in the late 9th - early 11th rounds.  People just aren't convinced he will be a factor.  At that price though, how can you pass???

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Reid has already announced that both are co-starters. Your ship is already sinking stonewall.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/226941/lesean-mccoy-to-co-start-with-damien-williams.php

[Ray_T 753]

14 hours ago, sderk said:

McCoy is the man in KC til he gets hurt.

It is hard to say for sure.   McCoy is on the wrong side of 30 now.

Granted, he has played in an Andy Reid offense in the past, so there will be no misunderstanding in terms of what needs to be done, so he can get up to speed quickly.

While I do think he still has talent,  I also think there is a decent chance this turns into a timeshare. 

If I were Reid, there are certain things I would consider:

Imagine an offense with Tyreek Hill as your #1 option, Kelce is #2. 

Kelce is good enough that  Linebackers cannot easily cover him.   I've seen some teams use the safety or use a DB to cover him.    This creates mismatches elsewhere in the offense.

Now you have two pass catching Backs in Damien Williams and Lesean McCoy along with Sammy Watkins.

If I"m Andy Reid, I lineup with both of them in the backfield at the same time.   and this should also open up the run as well.

This is gonna put a lot of pressure on the secondary of any Defense they face.   I suspect this will be an interesting year where (potentially) both RB's can put up decent numbers.

Due to the timeshare......I think it is tough to predict any RB will put up top 10 numbers in this offense, but I wouldnt be surprised to see them both in the top 20.

 

[AxeElf 787]

2 hours ago, stonewall said:

The one I used didn't list Shady (coincidence?), and yours still had him at #5 with the Bills.

 

Ah, that makes sense then.  Pretty soon Zeke should knock him back down to 7th.

[sderk 1,040]

2 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

It is hard to say for sure.   McCoy is on the wrong side of 30 now.

Granted, he has played in an Andy Reid offense in the past, so there will be no misunderstanding in terms of what needs to be done, so he can get up to speed quickly.

While I do think he still has talent,  I also think there is a decent chance this turns into a timeshare. 

If I were Reid, there are certain things I would consider:

Imagine an offense with Tyreek Hill as your #1 option, Kelce is #2. 

Kelce is good enough that  Linebackers cannot easily cover him.   I've seen some teams use the safety or use a DB to cover him.    This creates mismatches elsewhere in the offense.

Now you have two pass catching Backs in Damien Williams and Lesean McCoy along with Sammy Watkins.

If I"m Andy Reid, I lineup with both of them in the backfield at the same time.   and this should also open up the run as well.

This is gonna put a lot of pressure on the secondary of any Defense they face.   I suspect this will be an interesting year where (potentially) both RB's can put up decent numbers.

Due to the timeshare......I think it is tough to predict any RB will put up top 10 numbers in this offense, but I wouldnt be surprised to see them both in the top 20.

 

It's a wait and see for sure, but, why bring McCoy in? Not as a backup definitely, which, I know you are not saying, but I think Williams actually is going to end up as a #3 on this roster. Just a hunch maybe, but KC is now loaded at RB. They just have injury concerns. Reid is not really a time share guy, it will be fun to see how he handles them in the backfield.