Official President Trump Impeachment Inquiry Thread

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

The July 25 summary is by far the closest thing yet. That and Mulvaney’s acknowledgment there was quid pro quo (which he tried to walk back after that trial balloon was promptly shot down).

I bet there are tapes and that’s gonna be your smoking gun. Just like with Nixon 

Unless they've been destroyed by now. I think that's the main play. Give Trump some rope, hope he gets caught in a cover up kinda thing. 

[IGotWorms 4,059]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

You don’t know crap....you actually believe that Republicans are in the private hearings taking place. You’re a joke.

That’s because they are.  Republicans on the pertinent committees are there and asking questions.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

6 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Unless they've been destroyed by now. I think that's the main play. Give Trump some rope, hope he gets caught in a cover up kinda thing. 

Well if they’ve been destroyed that would be damning in itself.

[Voltaire 5,322]

I don't know there are tapes. It doesn't matter. There are transcripts. Trump has released the transcripts. The transcripts are a Rorschach test where you see impeachable offense or not. I'm 0.00% rounded up offended by the transcripts. 

Really it's an impeachment that was in the works before he was even sworn in looking for an excuse. What he did is 100,000,000,000,000,000x not as bad as what Biden did.... and nobody cares what Biden did.

[Mr. Hand 482]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s because they are.  Republicans on the pertinent committees are there and asking questions.

No they aren’t. Provide a link you fool. How dumb are you?

[IGotWorms 4,059]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said:

No they aren’t. Provide a link you fool. How dumb are you?

How dumb are YOU? Of course they are and it would be extremely irregular and probably flat out illegal if they aren’t. You’d be hearing about it every minute of every day. But you don’t. Instead you hear about the one guy who wasn’t even on the committees in question who got kicked out — an orchestrated stunt to feed on the paranoid delusions of persons like yourself.
 

https://www.rollcall.com/news/house-democrats-sharpen-counterattacks-republican-impeachment-process-complaints

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3997318002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/466114-house-conservatives-attempt-to-access-closed-door-impeachment-hearing%3famp

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

23 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Well if they’ve been destroyed that would be damning in itself.

Sure. If one could prove they ever existed, and were destroyed by trumps order. 

23 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I don't know there are tapes. It doesn't matter. There are transcripts. Trump has released the transcripts. The transcripts are a Rorschach test where you see impeachable offense or not. I'm 0.00% rounded up offended by the transcripts. 

Really it's an impeachment that was in the works before he was even sworn in looking for an excuse. What he did is 100,000,000,000,000,000x not as bad as what Biden did.... and nobody cares what Biden did.

That is the part I find crazy. I agree... The Biden part is as bad, if not worse, as the Trump stuff. How the hell do they impeach one while the other is their candidate? Makes zero sense. 

[Mr. Hand 482]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

How dumb are YOU? Of course they are and it would be extremely irregular and probably flat out illegal if they aren’t. You’d be hearing about it every minute of every day. But you don’t. Instead you hear about the one guy who wasn’t even on the committees in question who got kicked out — an orchestrated stunt to feed on the paranoid delusions of persons like yourself.
 

https://www.rollcall.com/news/house-democrats-sharpen-counterattacks-republican-impeachment-process-complaints

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3997318002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/466114-house-conservatives-attempt-to-access-closed-door-impeachment-hearing%3famp

There are no Republicans in these hearings. 

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Just now, Mr. Hand said:

There are no Republicans in these hearings. 

You’re just a focking liar at this point.

[Voltaire 5,322]

This lack of GOP participation or not should be easy enough to prove/disprove. Worms has links a few posts up, Mr. Hand owes us links as well.

[Voltaire 5,322]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This lack of GOP participation or not should be easy enough to prove/disprove. Worms has links a few posts up, Mr. Hand owes us links as well.

Worms, I just read your first  link... it’s raising the very concerns Mr. Hand is talking about.

[Voltaire 5,322]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Worms, I just read your first  link... it’s raising the very concerns Mr. Hand is talking about.

Reading in full, it’s unclear wtf is going on.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

9 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Worms, I just read your first  link... it’s raising the very concerns Mr. Hand is talking about.

You’re not reading very closely.

Republicans who ARE NOT on the pertinent committees are b1tching about being kept out.

Those Republicans who are on the committees are in there and permitted to question witnesses just as democrats are.

[sderk 1,040]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re not reading very closely.

Republicans who ARE NOT on the pertinent committees are b1tching about being kept out.

Those Republicans who are on the committees are in there and permitted to question witnesses just as democrats are.

You are very confused about all of this.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Libtard talk alert --"pertinent". 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

9 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

What's crazy is this " foreign country investigating his domestic political rivals?" is illegal all on it's own---the holding of congressional appropriated funds makes it doubly troublesome ---but whatever...he's on our team.  

You find it crazy that the President is wanting Ukraine, a country who has already admitted to corruption/colluding with Democrats to affect the 2016 U.S. election, to do a thorough investigation of what happened? The transcript of the call and everyone else says no quid pro quo, you believe the MSM and not the players involved?

Another story you and worms choose to believe is that Biden got that prosecutor fired for not wanting to investigate corruption? So even if you believe the Bidens are innocent (which they're not), it's okay for Obama and Biden to do it but not Trump?

Another thing we may learn; perhaps Biden held up that loan for Ukraine to help meddle in the 2016 election.

Barr/Durham have Mifsud's OCONUS lure cellphones that Strzok gave him. Italy and Ukraine are now cooperating with DOJ. Your party is about to face the music finally. Perhaps you should start front loading the beers.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re not reading very closely.

Republicans who ARE NOT on the pertinent committees are b1tching about being kept out.

Those Republicans who are on the committees are in there and permitted to question witnesses just as democrats are.

No, they're not. It was changed to depositions to only allow one person (a lawyer) to ask questions. 

[RLLD 4,254]

From what I can tell the Dems might finally have something to launch on Trump, which will could result in the house delivering impeachment that the Senate then shoots down.

And then all those folks who voted for Trump in the past dig in their heels and vote for him again, but then so too will others who might be on the fence but are tired of the Dems and media behaviors, which support their distaste for the government.

So, the Dems are handing Trump the election at this point.....

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Eat it worms.

[vuduchile 1,945]

8 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I don't know there are tapes. It doesn't matter. There are transcripts. Trump has released the transcripts. The transcripts are a Rorschach test where you see impeachable offense or not. I'm 0.00% rounded up offended by the transcripts. 

Really it's an impeachment that was in the works before he was even sworn in looking for an excuse. What he did is 100,000,000,000,000,000x not as bad as what Biden did.... and nobody cares what Biden did.

Exactly 

[RLLD 4,254]

Schiff and Nadler are surpassing Gingrinch in terms of political filth.....

[MDC 7,505]

Trump obviously did ask Ukraine to investigate Biden for political reasons, otherwise why get your personal attorney involved and lie about it? If Don were interested in nepotism and corruption he could start with his own kids.

Whether that’s an impeachable offense I don’t know. He’s not going to get impeached so it’s all academic. I suspect the Dems are pressing it to force Republicans in purple / moderate areas to go on record supporting Trump not cause they think they’re going to remove him from office.

[vuduchile 1,945]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump obviously did ask Ukraine to investigate Biden for political reasons, otherwise why get your personal attorney involved and lie about it? If Don were interested in nepotism and corruption he could start with his own kids.

Whether that’s an impeachable offense I don’t know. He’s not going to get impeached so it’s all academic. I suspect the Dems are pressing it to force Republicans in purple / moderate areas to go on record supporting Trump not cause they think they’re going to remove him from office.

Right. 

I just don’t feel like party affiliation matters if you’re corrupt.  If a politician puts themselves in a position that calls their ethics into question, they can and should be investigated by those with the authority to do so    

Bottom line.  It loooks like Biden and his son focked up.  Nothing wrong with Trump asking Ukraine to look into it.  If they’re guilty of wrongdoing, it conveniently helps Trump discredit Biden and the dems since they’ve all been attacking Trump at every opportunity.  

[RLLD 4,254]

4 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

Right. 

I just don’t feel like party affiliation matters if you’re corrupt.  If a politician puts themselves in a position that calls their ethics into question, they can and should be investigated by those with the authority to do so    

Bottom line.  It loooks like Biden and his son focked up.  Nothing wrong with Trump asking Ukraine to look into it.  If they’re guilty of wrongdoing, it conveniently helps Trump discredit Biden and the dems since they’ve all been attacking Trump at every opportunity.  

I think we should start at a place where "corrupt" is more able defined.   In political terms the word corrupt has a somewhat different connotation that it might for you or I.

I submit that ALL politicians are "corrupt" to varying degrees because they all serve their own self interests over those of the people they represent. I would not trust ANY of them too far.

[MDC 7,505]

1 minute ago, vuduchile said:

Right. 

I just don’t feel like party affiliation matters if you’re corrupt.  If a politician puts themselves in a position that calls their ethics into question, they can and should be investigated by those with the authority to do so    

Bottom line.  It loooks like Biden and his son focked up.  Nothing wrong with Trump asking Ukraine to look into it.  If they’re guilty of wrongdoing, it conveniently helps Trump discredit Biden and the dems since they’ve all been attacking Trump at every opportunity.  

Obviously Don’s not asking countries like Ukraine and China to investigate cause he thinks they’re going to provide trustworthy evidence. He’s asking cause he wants them to find dirt. And if they gave Don dirt on Biden he’d tweet it out there without knowing or caring if it’s true. 

[vuduchile 1,945]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Obviously Don’s not asking countries like Ukraine and China to investigate cause he thinks they’re going to provide trustworthy evidence. He’s asking cause he wants them to find dirt. And if they gave Don dirt on Biden he’d tweet it out there without knowing or caring if it’s true. 

This is what politics has become.  They all do it.  

[vuduchile 1,945]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think we should start at a place where "corrupt" is more able defined.   In political terms the word corrupt has a somewhat different connotation that it might for you or I.

I submit that ALL politicians are "corrupt" to varying degrees because they all serve their own self interests over those of the people they represent. I would not trust ANY of them too far.

Correct.  Trump is no exception.  

[MDC 7,505]

Just now, vuduchile said:

This is what politics has become.  They all do it.  

That’s true, but Don is the guy walking around claiming he’s going to drain the swamp. The only difference between him and your typical DC swamp creature is that Don is even more shamelessly hypocritical. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

42 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump obviously did ask Ukraine to investigate Biden for political reasons, otherwise why get your personal attorney involved and lie about it?

Because the DOJ/FBI quashed it before and it's not known who is or isn't to be trusted to actually get evidence? Because FBI agents were bribed to overlook that stuff?

When you can't trust who is trustworthy and who isn't, you get someone you know you can trust.

[Mr. Hand 482]

10 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re just a focking liar at this point.

If they are in there, I’m wrong. But I also read they aren’t being allowed to ask questions. Also, why isn’t the House Judiciary Committee involved? They handle impeachments.

[Mike Honcho 5,298]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Trump obviously did ask Ukraine to investigate Biden for political reasons, otherwise why get your personal attorney involved and lie about it? If Don were interested in nepotism and corruption he could start with his own kids.

Whether that’s an impeachable offense I don’t know. He’s not going to get impeached so it’s all academic. I suspect the Dems are pressing it to force Republicans in purple / moderate areas to go on record supporting Trump not cause they think they’re going to remove him from office.

If you want to go the academic route - he will get impeached(House impeaches)---being removed from office by the senate is probably what won't happen.  

[MDC 7,505]

29 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

If you want to go the academic route - he will get impeached(House impeaches)---being removed from office by the senate is probably what won't happen.  

Well, whatever. You know what I meant. Democrats who think he’s getting removed from office are as deluded as Filthy Fernandez.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

33 minutes ago, MDC said:

Well, whatever. You know what I meant. Democrats who think he’s getting removed from office are as deluded as Filthy Fernandez.

Yep...........MDC, the mental giant has decreed it. The guy that thinks any crimes committed by Democrats are automatically debunked and written off as conspiracy theories. Any mere mention of a rumor that a Republican spoke on the phone is to be considered grounds for impeachment.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

34 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

If you want to go the academic route - he will get impeached(House impeaches)---being removed from office by the senate is probably what won't happen.  

So he's going to be impeached for this Ukraine nonsense. Does it bother you (and you other libs) that they said they were going to impeach him long before this Ukraine matter surfaced? Long before the Meuller investigation? 

[Mr. Hand 482]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So he's going to be impeached for this Ukraine nonsense. Does it bother you (and you other libs) that they said they were going to impeach him long before this Ukraine matter surfaced? Long before the Meuller investigation? 

The Dems were talking about impeachment when he was elected. It's pathetic.

[Herbivore 1,142]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So he's going to be impeached for this Ukraine nonsense. Does it bother you (and you other libs) that they said they were going to impeach him long before this Ukraine matter surfaced? Long before the Meuller investigation? 

He was paying off pornstars back then..it really was a matter of time

[Herbivore 1,142]

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I don't know there are tapes. It doesn't matter. There are transcripts. Trump has released the transcripts. The transcripts are a Rorschach test where you see impeachable offense or not. I'm 0.00% rounded up offended by the transcripts. 

Really it's an impeachment that was in the works before he was even sworn in looking for an excuse. What he did is 100,000,000,000,000,000x not as bad as what Biden did.... and nobody cares what Biden did.

Did Biden do that on his own?  Not just saying he was doing the talking, but were other entities behind removing Shokin?

[IGotWorms 4,059]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So he's going to be impeached for this Ukraine nonsense. Does it bother you (and you other libs) that they said they were going to impeach him long before this Ukraine matter surfaced? Long before the Meuller investigation? 

Before the mueller investigation? That started pretty much right after he became president, so how’d “they” say “they” were going to impeach him long before that?

But even assuming your narrative were true, it wouldn’t really bother me. I knew he was unfit the moment he told Russia to hack his rivals’ emails, right there on national tv for all to see. Plus the “lock her up” and “you should be in jail” crap. We’re not a focking banana republic.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I don't know there are tapes. It doesn't matter. There are transcripts. Trump has released the transcripts. The transcripts are a Rorschach test where you see impeachable offense or not. I'm 0.00% rounded up offended by the transcripts. 

It’s not a transcript. You’ll see why that matters if/when we ever get a real one.

[Mr. Hand 482]

Here is a good article about the clown show going on with this and I was wrong that Republicans were not allowed at the hearings.

Republican lawmaker 'destroyed' latest impeachment inquiry witness argument: McCarthy

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kevin-mccarthy-claims-republican-lawmaker-destroyed-latest-trump-impeachment-inquiry-argument