Tonights Dem Debate

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Again, the man endorsed Hillary and attended 40-some events with her. You can’t blame him for insufficient enthusiasm. Most people who voted Hillary held their noses in the voting booth. 

I suspect a lot of Bernie voters who didn’t support Hillary weren’t going to vote for her anyway.

You've already stated that if Bernie isn't the nominee, you're not voting for any Democrat.  You are a caricature of the Bernie supporter. So you're not exactly one to have an honest conversation about this with. If there are a lot of Sanders supporters who won't support a different Democratic nominee, you just gave Trump four more years. Odd that you don't see that.

[lod001 1,238]

Should be entertaining tonight.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

Has Bloomberg released his tax returns yet?  

[MDC 5,915]

1 minute ago, The Observer said:

You've already stated that if Bernie isn't the nominee, you're not voting for any Democrat.  You are a caricature of the Bernie supporter. So you're not exactly one to have an honest conversation about this with. If there are a lot of Sanders supporters who won't support a different Democratic nominee, you just gave Trump four more years. Odd that you don't see that.

I’m not a registered Democrat. That’s my whole point: People like me didn’t “lose” Hillary the nomination because she never had my vote in the first place. 

I’m not 100% decided on who I’ll vote for in November. But right now I’d sooner go 3rd party than back a Biden, Bloomberg or Buttjeez.

  

[The Observer 641]

Just now, MDC said:

I’m not a registered Democrat. That’s my whole point: People like me didn’t “lose” Hillary the nomination because she never had my vote in the first place. 

I’m not 100% decided on who I’ll vote for in November. But right now I’d sooner go 3rd party than back a Biden, Bloomberg or Buttjeez.

  

In November, you're either doing one of two things.  You're voting for the Democratic nominee, or you're voting for Trump. Any single action other than voting for the blue nominee is a vote for Trump.  Just staying home? Vote for Trump.  3rd Party? Vote for Trump.  Write-in of a candidate because you're all butt-hurt that Sanders didn't get the nomination? Yup, a vote for Trump.  

[Baker Boy 1,489]

15 minutes ago, The Observer said:

He eventually and begrudgingly supported her.  It was like pulling teeth. And because of it, many of his asswipe supporters ended up not voting at all or even voting for Trump (1 in 10 voted Trump). Here are the stats. He's largely responsible for President Trump.  And looks like he's on the exact same path.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

 No he isn’t, it is the DNC that was responsible for turning Bernie supporters off by rigging the primary. Some of them were so up set they voted for Trump. 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

 No he isn’t, it is the DNC that was responsible for turning Bernie supporters off by rigging the primary. Some of them were so up set they voted for Trump. 

Like I said, they are already pre-prepared to be butt hurt again if he doesn't win the nomination.  But thanks for proving my point.

[MDC 5,915]

6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

In November, you're either doing one of two things.  You're voting for the Democratic nominee, or you're voting for Trump. Any single action other than voting for the blue nominee is a vote for Trump.  Just staying home? Vote for Trump.  3rd Party? Vote for Trump.  Write-in of a candidate because you're all butt-hurt that Sanders didn't get the nomination? Yup, a vote for Trump.  

I can live with that. I haven’t regretted my 2016 vote either. 

[drobeski 3,061]

Just now, MDC said:

I can live with that. I haven’t regretted my 2016 vote either. 

Deep down inside,  you too want to keep America great.  Nothing wrong with that.

[Baker Boy 1,489]

12 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Like I said, they are already pre-prepared to be butt hurt again if he doesn't win the nomination.  But thanks for proving my point.

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. Here are the stats. He's largely responsible for President Trump.

Your point was that Bernie turned them my point was the DNC turned them. That is very different and a pathetic backpedal by you.

[drobeski 3,061]

14 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Like I said, they are already pre-prepared to be butt hurt again if he doesn't win the nomination.  But thanks for proving my point.

Candidates and voters for the Democrats dont get to choose their winner. Its picked for them, and the voters, like you happily bend over and take it. 

 

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Your point was that Bernie turned them my point was the DNC turned them. That is very different and a pathetic backpedal by you.

Bernie knew the hatred his campaign created towards Hillary in 2016. And he loved that his supporters ran with the conspirator theory that the DNC rigged the primaries. Once he lost, he made the conscious decision to let that fester and to allow his 'bros' to remain pissed off. It was at this time that many decided to either vote for Trump or note vote at all. Or vote 3rd party. I'm not backpedaling. That's exactly what happened. He eventually succumbed to the pressure to pretend he was endorsing Hillary, but that's no different than when Trump speaks out a week later after a white supremacist kills a liberal.  He's already used silence to send the message to his supporters that he is fine with it. 

[MDC 5,915]

13 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Deep down inside,  you too want to keep America great.  Nothing wrong with that.

That’s why I want Bernie. He’s an alternative to the corrupt Trump / Hillary dirtbags.  

[The Observer 641]

4 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Candidates and voters for the Democrats dont get to choose their winner. Its picked for them, and the voters, like you happily bend over and take it. 

 

   You and your conspiracy theories.  You must shake in your shoes every day at what a powerless victim you are. 

[drobeski 3,061]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

   You and your conspiracy theories.  You must shake in your shoes every day at what a powerless victim you are. 

Conspiracy theory ? They admit it. 

Bendover Billy

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 minutes ago, The Observer said:

   You and your conspiracy theories.  You must shake in your shoes every day at what a powerless victim you are. 

It wasn't a theory in 2016.  And you can certainly see what is going on right now.  I hope.  You guys need to quit defending your party from the right and start defending it from the left.

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, drobeski said:

Conspiracy theory ? They admit it. 

Bendover Billy

You have a weird fascination with man ass. Must be a Boston thing. 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

It wasn't a theory in 2016.  And you can certainly see what is going on right now.  I hope.  You guys need to quit defending your party from the right and start defending it from the left.

Please explain what is going on right now?  I'd love to hear the Fox News version of Democratic primaries.  I'm all ears. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,137]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Please explain what is going on right now?  I'd love to hear the Fox News version of Democratic primaries.  I'm all ears. 

Don't really need a Fox News version.  The CNN and MSNBC version tell you everything you need to hear.  Trump is a bad man, therefore he's a bad President... even though the country is doing great.  The Dem Candidates are in a battle to see who can give away the most things for free.  Well, not free, someone will have to pay for it.  Oh, and none of the candidates will tell you that it's YOU who will be paying for it.  Let's also not forget that white people (mainly men), are evil.  Wait, sorry... Republican white people (mainly men), because you know, ALL women are oppressed.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,755]

So now the process is unfair? Lol. Was it unfair when Obama for the nomination too? Orange man bad 

[The Observer 641]

7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Don't really need a Fox News version.  The CNN and MSNBC version tell you everything you need to hear.  Trump is a bad man, therefore he's a bad President... even though the country is doing great.  The Dem Candidates are in a battle to see who can give away the most things for free.  Well, not free, someone will have to pay for it.  Oh, and none of the candidates will tell you that it's YOU who will be paying for it.  Let's also not forget that white people (mainly men), are evil.  Wait, sorry... Republican white people (mainly men), because you know, ALL women are oppressed.

He was implying that there's something shady going on to screw Bernie.  Even though he's winning right now.  This is Trump and his sheep's attempt at dividing the Democrats like they did to themselves in 2016. Trump knows why he won and he's hoping for a repeat.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

29 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Please explain what is going on right now?  I'd love to hear the Fox News version of Democratic primaries.  I'm all ears. 

You're being duped into to accepting any candidate that you are told will beat Trump.  I mean you don't care, right?  You have said it 1000 times.  So it's not really a duping on the part of your handlers, it's ambivalence on your part. You want to know why the Democrats fail so often, look in the mirror.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,755]

Low information voters just figuring it out now. 

[jerryskids 5,235]

18 minutes ago, The Observer said:

He was implying that there's something shady going on to screw Bernie.  Even though he's winning right now.  This is Trump and his sheep's attempt at dividing the Democrats like they did to themselves in 2016. Trump knows why he won and he's hoping for a repeat.

Cmon man, you aren't even trying now.  Be a better troll. 

Anyway, I'm mostly interested in if the moderators come after Bloomberg for his multiple comments which have recently surfaced.  My guess is no, but we'll see.

[The Observer 641]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You're being duped into to accepting any candidate that you are told will beat Trump.  I mean you don't care, right?  You have said it 1000 times.  So it's not really a duping on the part of your handlers, it's ambivalence on your part. You want to know why the Democrats fail so often, look in the mirror.  

Apparently not many Dems are getting duped at all.  Another poll just released this morning says that Biden still has the best chance head-to-head to beat Trump.  Yet he sits 4th or 5th in primary delegates.  That goes 100% opposite what you're trying to sell.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,137]

24 minutes ago, The Observer said:

He was implying that there's something shady going on to screw Bernie.  Even though he's winning right now.  This is Trump and his sheep's attempt at dividing the Democrats like they did to themselves in 2016. Trump knows why he won and he's hoping for a repeat.

Ah, well with respect to Bernie, you don't need Fox News for that.  You had the DNC chair re-sign last year because it came out that they did in fact screwed Bernie over.  I think they're doing it again because they know he can't win.  Bernie is big with the lazy people, but not the middle class independents and moderate left's.

[TBayXXXVII 2,137]

7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Apparently not many Dems are getting duped at all.  Another poll just released this morning says that Biden still has the best chance head-to-head to beat Trump.  Yet he sits 4th or 5th in primary delegates.  That goes 100% opposite what you're trying to sell.  

You still believe polls?

[TBayXXXVII 2,137]

12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You're being duped into to accepting any candidate that you are told will beat Trump.  I mean you don't care, right?  You have said it 1000 times.  So it's not really a duping on the part of your handlers, it's ambivalence on your part. You want to know why the Democrats fail so often, look in the mirror.  

/thread

[TimmySmith 2,782]

7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Apparently not many Dems are getting duped at all.  Another poll just released this morning says that Biden still has the best chance head-to-head to beat Trump.  Yet he sits 4th or 5th in primary delegates.  That goes 100% opposite what you're trying to sell.  

  It's 100% what I am trying to sell. You don't even see it.  Hilarious.

[Strike 4,012]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You still believe polls?

No, he just smokes them.

[The Observer 641]

26 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ah, well with respect to Bernie, you don't need Fox News for that.  You had the DNC chair re-sign last year because it came out that they did in fact screwed Bernie over.  I think they're doing it again because they know he can't win.  Bernie is big with the lazy people, but not the middle class independents and moderate left's.

The DNC doesn't want Bernie to represent them because a) he's way too far left and that's not where the party wants to be.  You guys say it all the time. "When people learn they can vote themselves money...."   And b) Bernie isn't a Democrat. He's using the party to give him a better chance than if he'd run as an independent. And he'll also all shlt all over it if he doesn't get the nomination. So why do you think he should expect some kind of open-armed snuggle from the DNC?

That being said, there's nothing like vote tampering going on. Or faulty results being given.  He's just going to have to do it on his own because he's not getting any more loyalty from the party than he's willing to give to it. He has as fair of a chance as anyone else. And if he wins the nomination, the DNC will be behind him for the same reason I'll be behind him. Because he'd be 100 times better than Trump. But not because I like the guy or believe in all the handouts he wants to give.

[TBayXXXVII 2,137]

10 minutes ago, The Observer said:

The DNC doesn't want Bernie to represent them because a) he's way too far left and that's not where the party wants to be.  You guys say it all the time. "When people learn they can vote themselves money...."   And b) Bernie isn't a Democrat. He's using the party to give him a better chance than if he'd run as an independent. And he'll also all over it if he doesn't get the nomination. So why do you think he should expect some kind of open-armed snuggle from the DNC?

That being said, there's nothing like vote tampering going on. Or faulty results being given.  He's just going to have to do it on his own because he's not getting any more loyalty from the party than he's willing to give to it. He has as fair of a chance as anyone else. And if he wins the nomination, the DNC will be behind him for the same reason I'll be behind him. Because he'd be 100 times better than Trump. But not because I like the guy or believe in all the handouts he wants to give.

I don't disagree with any of that really.  Though, I heard from a few Bernie supporters (not Fox), say that the way the DNC set up their delegate voting was designed to screw Bernie.  Personally, I don't care what they do because I'm not a part of that cult, so to each their own.  The fact that anyone would think that Bernie would be better than Trump is a serious sign that the Dems have lost their mind.  I think every moderate Dem who doesn't like socialism will either vote 3rd party or for Trump.  It'll probably be a landslide.

[drobeski 3,061]

31 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ah, well with respect to Bernie, you don't need Fox News for that.  You had the DNC chair re-sign last year because it came out that they did in fact screwed Bernie over.  I think they're doing it again because they know he can't win.  Bernie is big with the lazy people, but not the middle class independents and moderate left's.

They fact they screwed Bernie was in the Seth Rich provided Wikileaks email dump. 

The newbies of the world never read them because fredo told them it was illegal to do so. 

They stayed as far away from the email content as they could. 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, drobeski said:

They fact they screwed Bernie was in the Seth Rich provided Wikileaks email dump. 

The newbies of the world never read them because fredo told them it was illegal to do so. 

They stayed as far away from the email content as they could. 

Tell us more about this man ass obsession of yours. 

[drobeski 3,061]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Tell us more about this man ass obsession of yours. 

Twice you brought up man ass. 

Strange deflection there bud.

You can look at the emails. Fredo was lying when he said it was illegal.  

Go for it, be brave!

 

[RLLD 3,455]

I wonder, do they dare to screw over Bernie again?  DO they even realize we can see what they are up to?

[The Observer 641]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I wonder, do they dare to screw over Bernie again?  DO they even realize we can see what they are up to?

Trump's certainly pushing for it.  He's already telling his sheep that they're doing it.  And judging by the posts today by said sheep, they're falling for it.  

[RLLD 3,455]

Just now, The Observer said:

Trump's certainly pushing for it.  He's already telling his sheep that they're doing it.  And judging by the posts today by said sheep, they're falling for it.  

As if it never happened, but everyone else is "sheep"....

[The Observer 641]

Just now, RLLD said:

As if it never happened, but everyone else is "sheep"....

You mentioned Seth Rich.  ROFL  And wanted me to take you seriously. 

[drobeski 3,061]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

You mentioned Seth Rich.  ROFL  And wanted me to take you seriously. 

No it was Fuzzie Bear who stole the emails, under direct orders from Putin....to help trump...fuzzy was so determined to help trump he magically made the scientifically impossible data transition rate not matter. 

I promise I wont tell fredo if you look at the emails.