RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, vomit said: Man you focking idiots here. All you retards who work in fast food have become experts in science and healthcare thanks to Facebook. They didn't inject people with covid you absolute retarded fock douche. They gave one group the vaccine, and another group a fake vaccine, and then tracked to see who got sick. And the people that got the vaccine got less sick than those that didn't. It's amazing you can even use a computer. imagine how good it would work if it was you know actually a vaccine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: imagine how good it would work if it was you know actually a vaccine Not a vaccine Bunch of clowns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, vomit said: Man you focking idiots here. All you retards who work in fast food have become experts in science and healthcare thanks to Facebook. They didn't inject people with covid you absolute retarded fock douche. They gave one group the vaccine, and another group a fake vaccine, and then tracked to see who got sick. And the people that got the vaccine got less sick than those that didn't. It's amazing you can even use a computer. Can you go look up what a clinical trial is or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, vomit said: Not a vaccine Bunch of clowns can you get covid after getting the "vaccine" if the answer is yes, then you ARE NOT vaccinated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You ok? That was obviously sarcasm. Very, very obvious. Is being intentionally obtuse your thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, nobody said: Look up what a clinical trial is or something. I just explained it to you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: can you get covid after getting the "vaccine" if the answer is yes, then you ARE NOT vaccinated No, getting the vaccine means you are vaccinated. You can still get the disease but you're still vaccinated. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, vomit said: I just explained it to you Please, go look up what an actual clinical trial entails. What you described does not rise to the standard of clinical trial, and no, they didn't give people fake vaccines, you idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, nobody said: Please, go look up what an actual clinical trial entails. What you described does not rise to the standard of clinical trial. Oh yeah my bad, I looked it up and it says they inject people with covid. You're right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, vomit said: Oh yeah my bad, I looked it up and it says they inject people with covid. You're right. You really think they gave people fake vaccines and sent them out into the world? You're an idiot if you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, nobody said: You really think they gave people fake vaccines and sent them out into the world? You're an idiot if you do. This phase recruits thousands of people who are split into different groups. Scientists administer the vaccine and placebos—fake vaccines that have no physiological effect on the body—then observe who resists infection, proving whether the vaccine is effective or not. https://research.northeastern.edu/heres-what-it-takes-to-test-a-covid-19-vaccine-with-clinical-trials/ Good night retard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,929 Posted February 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, nobody said: That was obviously sarcasm. Very, very obvious. Is being intentionally obtuse your thing? Yes I knew that was sarcasm. But you still seem worked up about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, vomit said: This phase recruits thousands of people who are split into different groups. Scientists administer the vaccine and placebos—fake vaccines that have no physiological effect on the body—then observe who resists infection, proving whether the vaccine is effective or not. https://research.northeastern.edu/heres-what-it-takes-to-test-a-covid-19-vaccine-with-clinical-trials/ Good night retard You specifically said clinical trials on vaccine efficacy against spread. Do you understand English? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,694 Posted February 3, 2022 Vomit runs to the internet to try and figure out how he can spin what he said to be correct. Keep desperately trying to find a link to something that makes you correct, bud. Or keep trying to change what you originally said. Either one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, vomit said: No, getting the vaccine means you are vaccinated. You can still get the disease but you're still vaccinated. its not a disease Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, nobody said: You specifically said clinical trials on vaccine efficacy against spread. Do you understand English? Oh I get, you don't understand how a virus spreads. See when people get infected with the virus, they spread it to others. So the less people infected, the lower the spread. Get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: its not a disease Of course not it's fake. Fake virus, not a vaccine, sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,929 Posted February 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, vomit said: Of course not it's fake. Fake virus, not a vaccine, sure. No I think his claim is some nonsense like it’s an infection not a disease or something to that effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, vomit said: Oh I get, you don't understand how a virus spreads. See when people get infected with the virus, they spread it to others. So the less people infected, the lower the spread. Get it? OK, now what's the point of a vaccine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No I think his claim is some nonsense like it’s an infection not a disease or something to that effect Got it, semantics, who cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 3, 2022 10 hours ago, vomit said: No, getting the vaccine means you are vaccinated. You can still get the disease but you're still vaccinated. If I've already had covid, why would I want to get the vaccine? We still have no idea if there are long term effects from the vaccine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,935 Posted February 3, 2022 12 hours ago, TimHauck said: Remember when everyone said they don’t care if other people wear a mask? I care. I'm glad the judge called this person out on their mental illness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: OK, now what's the point of a vaccine? Now, the point is to lessen the severity, but given that these variants are not as deadly, there is not much of a point at all. If you're old, fat, unhealthy, you should get it. That doesn't rewrite history though, and it doesn't invalidate the data at the time. People who say "It never worked" are just flat out wrong. I don't know why anyone would try and make that argument, it's pointless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: If I've already had covid, why would I want to get the vaccine? We still have no idea if there are long term effects from the vaccine. I have no idea. Some people might want the vaccine to increase their antibodies. That is their choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, vomit said: Now, the point is to lessen the severity, but given that these variants are not as deadly, there is not much of a point at all. If you're old, fat, unhealthy, you should get it. That doesn't rewrite history though, and it doesn't invalidate the data at the time. People who say "It never worked" are just flat out wrong. I don't know why anyone would try and make that argument, it's pointless. While it may have worked to lessen the severity, it backfired and fueled the spread because people didn't know they were sick. It's no wonder they wanted everyone to get it. This philosophy never occurred in vaccine history before. That is why it isn't really a vaccine any more than ibuprofen is a vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: This philosophy never occurred in vaccine history before. That is why it isn't really a vaccine any more than ibuprofen is a vaccine. This is wrong. A vaccine elicits an immune response in order to spur the creation antibodies which aid in preventing future infection. Ibuprofen does not do this at all. There is a history of vaccines that are not 100% effective in preventing illness, most notably the influenza and pneumonia vaccines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, vomit said: Of course not it's fake. Fake virus, not a vaccine, sure. It’s not a disease. It’s a virus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: It’s not a disease. It’s a virus My apologies. No, getting the vaccine means you are vaccinated. You can still get the virus but you're still vaccinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,851 Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 6:34 AM, listen2me 23 said: They said the unvaccinated created variants. So I guess I will say: you are welcome. 15 hours ago, TimHauck said: Add this to the list of Covid denier contradictions I guess ”the vaccine causes the variants, but also thank the unvaccinated for causing the milder Omicron” although speaking of Omicron and “mild,” we’re now at our highest daily deaths since February 2021… It seems to me that if we have a variant which is largely immune to the vaccine, it probably evolved from the vaccinated. Why would it evolve from the unvaccinated? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 variants are created based on the number of people infected. So the more possible hosts, the greater the mutations, the greater the variants. The vaccine only plays into reducing the number of possible hosts, but it was never going to be small enough to matter based on the global population and % vaccinated. Basically it is all BS on both sides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,704 Posted February 3, 2022 12 hours ago, vomit said: Man you focking idiots here. All you retards who work in fast food have become experts in science and healthcare thanks to Facebook. They didn't inject people with covid you absolute retarded fock douche. They gave one group the vaccine, and another group a fake vaccine, and then tracked to see who got sick. And the people that got the vaccine got less sick than those that didn't. It's amazing you can even use a computer. Why would I want to get a vaccine that just makes me less sick? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, vomit said: My apologies. No, getting the vaccine means you are vaccinated. You can still get the virus but you're still vaccinated. Right they changed the definition. It used to mean immunization. That is all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,929 Posted February 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, jerryskids said: It seems to me that if we have a variant which is largely immune to the vaccine, it probably evolved from the vaccinated. Why would it evolve from the unvaccinated? It’s largely immune from prior infection too… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,704 Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It’s largely immune from prior infection too… COVID is No different than every other government operation, follow the money and you will find the truth. Over $5 trillion spent on Covid relief, where did it go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,851 Posted February 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It’s largely immune from prior infection too… Hmm, good point. I'll have to rethink that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Hmm, good point. I'll have to rethink that. Anecdotal but I haven’t had any friends including myself get omicron. That have previously had Covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Anecdotal but I haven’t had any friends including myself get omicron. That have previously had Covid I had OG covid in 2020 and then I got Omicron last month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364 Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, vomit said: I had OG covid in 2020 and then I got Omicron last month. Cool and you were just fine. So it’s not previously infected people dying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Cool and you were just fine. So it’s not previously infected people dying Correct, it was a very minor cold. Any kind of prior immunity, either natural or vaccine, helps. And of course you have to take care of yourself, eat well, rest, hydrate, etc. We should absolutely remove all restrictions and mandates and get back to normal. Any scared puzzies can hide in their houses and wear hazmat suits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,929 Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Cdub100 said: I care. I'm glad the judge called this person out on their mental illness. So you don’t believe in medical choice then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites