Coronavirus - Doomsday

[JustinCharge 2,397]

I was vaccinated.  I never got covid.  I have gotten a slightly scratchy throat 3x since March 2020.  I immediately used listerine (the type with alcohol) in all three cases and it nuked my scratchy throat from space.   

[Gepetto 1,374]

3 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Holy fuuck!  Training toddlers for "mask compliance" multiple years into the future?  These people should be jailed. This your peeps @KSB2424?  

 

That would do nothing for the virus spread, but could really fock up the emotional and social development of little kids for life.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

Total psycho. Who in their right mind would act and talk like this? Just go die already and let the rest of us live our lives.

Baby boomer trying to fock kids to live another 5 years and spend that inheritance. 

[vomit 502]

1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

Is this the towel being thrown?  Trust me, the CDC does not have your back on what you have been fed.

Towel?  N please.  You have talked gibberish and look like a complete fool.

[KSB2424 3,148]

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Holy fuuck!  Training toddlers for "mask compliance" multiple years into the future?  These people should be jailed. This your peeps @KSB2424?  

 

Yes, I live in Raleigh, NC which is Wake County.  I have a 4th and 7th grader in a Charter School.  The Charter is sort of a hybrid in that they normally follow WCPSS lead on things but they do have the ability to do their own thing too.  Our Charter school is much better than the nearby public schools as the parents are much more involved, better teachers, etc.  

The guy talking was hired in 2019…..from Oakland, California.  Dude isn’t even from here and prolly never had kids.  Trust me, people are not happy.  

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Kungflu is over.  Move on.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

I’m liking my governor more and more. 
 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 hour ago, vomit said:

Towel?  N please.  You have talked gibberish and look like a complete fool.

  Dude you're stuck in with the liars now that this house of cards is falling. Don't think you're that guy. Maybe you are.

[shorepatrol 1,871]

Why anyone tests and reports after the fat paychecks went away is beyond me.  If you are sick stay home. Then go back to work when you're symptom free. Probably a day or 2 compared to 10 days quarantine burning PTO or unpaid.  

[KSB2424 3,148]

I didn't watch but apparently the Wake County, NC idiot School Board leader was on Tucker Carlson tonight. 

We're famous!@#!

I totally understood masks and quarantining and all that IN THE BEGINNING.  Back two years ago when we didn't know WTF really was happening.  However anything the past year, especially 6 months, after all we've collectively learned is borderline insane.   Any school with kids mandatory wearing masks is a disgrace.  

Covid is real, some variants are worse than others.  However its been two years, there is a "covid shot" similar to the "flu shot" that helps.  Anyone who is of age or wants it should get it, if you don't that's on you.  Only certain masks work at all, and any mandate to wear one is overreach.  

Move the fock on........this is borderline criminal.  

[vomit 502]

34 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

  Dude you're stuck in with the liars now that this house of cards is falling. Don't think you're that guy. Maybe you are.

Ok so let's get this straight.

The covid vaccine is not a vaccine, and it is 0% effective.  That's your stance, correct?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 hours ago, vomit said:

Ok so let's get this straight.

The covid vaccine is not a vaccine, and it is 0% effective.  That's your stance, correct?

The following is from a medical exam 10 years ago that I found on line:

A medication is a substance that is taken into or placed on the body that does

one of the following things:

Most medications are used to cure a disease or condition.

For example, antibiotics are given to cure an infection.

Medications are also given to treat a medical condition.

For example, anti-depressants are given to treat depression.

Medications are also given to relieve symptoms of an illness.

For example, pain relievers are given to reduce pain.

Vaccinations are given to prevent diseases.

 

We know it doesn't prevent disease now so the question is whether it ever did. It appears there is enough evidence it never did. It's possible it did mitigate symptoms to render people asymptomatic. They could and did still spread it. So either it's not a vax now and probably never was a vax, or it was a vax for the virus very early on, and was ineffective against transmission against additional variants. I believe that it is still effective for symptom relief. Doesn't make it a vax. 

Finally the flu vaccine is either 100% effective or 0%. Because it is either engineered for the strain of flu going around or it is isn't.  So saying it is 90% or 80% or "no vax is 100%", simply isn't true and people who say it look dumb. 

 

[vomit 502]

48 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

The following is from a medical exam 10 years ago that I found on line:

A medication is a substance that is taken into or placed on the body that does

one of the following things:

Most medications are used to cure a disease or condition.

For example, antibiotics are given to cure an infection.

Medications are also given to treat a medical condition.

For example, anti-depressants are given to treat depression.

Medications are also given to relieve symptoms of an illness.

For example, pain relievers are given to reduce pain.

Vaccinations are given to prevent diseases.

 

We know it doesn't prevent disease now so the question is whether it ever did. It appears there is enough evidence it never did. It's possible it did mitigate symptoms to render people asymptomatic. They could and did still spread it. So either it's not a vax now and probably never was a vax, or it was a vax for the virus very early on, and was ineffective against transmission against additional variants. I believe that it is still effective for symptom relief. Doesn't make it a vax. 

Finally the flu vaccine is either 100% effective or 0%. Because it is either engineered for the strain of flu going around or it is isn't.  So saying it is 90% or 80% or "no vax is 100%", simply isn't true and people who say it look dumb. 

 

TimmySmith, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this board is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

So here's the problem with guys like TimmySmith is they make up their own facts to support their argument.  And these made up arguments are so easy to prove wrong, but lazy people don't put in the effort. This is how stupidity spreads.

Just a few here...

"We know it doesn't prevent disease now" - FALSE.  The latest Omicron data shows about 30% effectiveness at preventing infection.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/by-the-numbers-covid-19-vaccines-and-omicron

"It appears there is enough evidence it never did." - FALSE.  The original clinical trials showed 95%+.  https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

"It's possible it did mitigate symptoms to render people asymptomatic." - HIGHLY UNLIKEY.  We talked about this, the chance of this happening is very close to zero.

"Doesn't make it a vax." - FALSE.  The efficacy of a vaccine doesn't determine it's definition.  The definition of a vaccine, new or old, is "stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity", which it does.  Note it's not 100% immunity, you can't make up your own definition.  It is what it is.  You don't get to label it "not a vaccine" based on your opinion.  Your opinion could be "It doesn't work well, I don't want it, don't force me or anyone to get it", that's fine, that's perfectly reasonable.  But when you do these mental gymnastics to try and prove it's not a vaccine, it makes you look really stupid.

"Finally the flu vaccine is either 100% effective or 0%." - This is idiotic, it's like saying Dalvin Cook scores a TD on every touch 100% of the time or 0% of the time, depending on if he scores.  The flu shot is 40%-60% effective, yes it has to do with strain matching but also with the way it's produced.  You can match the strain, get the shot, and still get sick. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm#why_flu_vax_less_effective_against_H3N2

"saying "no vax is 100%", simply isn't true and people who say it look dumb" -  "no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective" source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

 

 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

28 minutes ago, vomit said:

TimmySmith, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this board is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

So here's the problem with guys like TimmySmith is they make up their own facts to support their argument.  And these made up arguments are so easy to prove wrong, but lazy people don't put in the effort. This is how stupidity spreads.

Just a few here...

"We know it doesn't prevent disease now" - FALSE.  The latest Omicron data shows about 30% effectiveness at preventing infection.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/by-the-numbers-covid-19-vaccines-and-omicron

"It appears there is enough evidence it never did." - FALSE.  The original clinical trials showed 95%+.  https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

"It's possible it did mitigate symptoms to render people asymptomatic." - HIGHLY UNLIKEY.  We talked about this, the chance of this happening is very close to zero.

"Doesn't make it a vax." - FALSE.  The efficacy of a vaccine doesn't determine it's definition.  The definition of a vaccine, new or old, is "stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity", which it does.  Note it's not 100% immunity, you can't make up your own definition.  It is what it is.  You don't get to label it "not a vaccine" based on your opinion.  Your opinion could be "It doesn't work well, I don't want it, don't force me or anyone to get it", that's fine, that's perfectly reasonable.  But when you do these mental gymnastics to try and prove it's not a vaccine, it makes you look really stupid.

"Finally the flu vaccine is either 100% effective or 0%." - This is idiotic, it's like saying Dalvin Cook scores a TD on every touch 100% of the time or 0% of the time, depending on if he scores.  The flu shot is 40%-60% effective, yes it has to do with strain matching but also with the way it's produced.  You can match the strain, get the shot, and still get sick. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm#why_flu_vax_less_effective_against_H3N2

"saying "no vax is 100%", simply isn't true and people who say it look dumb" -  "no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective" source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

 

 

 

Gun thrown.  You never appear to read your own links.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

That guy who wants to mask two year olds should be killed in the public square.  

[vomit 502]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

Gun thrown.  You never appear to read your own links.  

If you're just gonna spout nonsense, take the L and walk away with at least a shred of dignity.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

13 minutes ago, vomit said:

If you're just gonna spout nonsense, take the L and walk away with at least a shred of dignity.

  Good day sir.

[Fireballer 2,643]

If children come onto Loudoun VA school property without being masked, they will be considered as trespassing.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

14 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

If children come onto Loudoun VA school property without being masked, they will be considered as trespassing.

I would love to see the cop writing that ticket. And the ensuing court debacle.  More and more the baby boomer flu is reduced to picking on kids because anyone else will kick those cowards in the balls.

[Fireballer 2,643]

I'm not jumping to conclusions here, because I can't believe that a staff member would be dumb enough to prohibit the free movement and exit of students in the case of an emergency.  I just can't see someone being that stupid.

EDIT:

I don't think it's legit.  After viewing other videos of supposed students in the gym, the rooms in the videos don't even look the same.  I'm leaving this up in case anyone can confirm this not.

 

[nobody 2,694]

That's definitely a fire hazard assuming it's even true, but I wouldn't exactly call that a barricade.  

 

[Cdub100 3,935]

21 hours ago, nobody said:

Are people really acting like the definition of vaccine wasn't changed in the middle of all this?

Yes they are. They also easily slid from safe and effective to it's not effective but it lessens symptoms while ignoring all-time high hospitalizations 10 months after the vaccine came out.

 

[vomit 502]

They didn't change the definition of a vaccine you focking idiots. 

[lod001 1,344]

This is why you don't get injected with an experimental substance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/child-struggled-walk-wrongly-receiving-165755825.html

I can only shake my head about the 'they got an adult dose'. A dose is a dose. If it can fock up a kid with a certain amount, the same amount can fock up a grownup at anytime. It the same crapola whether you got 1 ml or 2 or whatever the standard does is. Everyone who has this in their system is a ticking timebomb. Sorry, that's just a fact. You have no clue what can happen in 3 years, 5 years, etc. 

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Yes they are. They also easily slid from safe and effective to it's not effective but it lessens symptoms while ignoring all-time high hospitalizations 10 months after the vaccine came out.

 

Its what happens when you dumb down the population. They just accept what they are told. Dumbing down has been going on for a long time now and there is a reason. 

 

[lod001 1,344]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

They didn't change the definition of a vaccine you focking idiots. 

Yeah they did, idiot.

[Cdub100 3,935]

Just now, vomit said:

They didn't change the definition of a vaccine you focking idiots. 

They absolutely did along with the definition of Herd Immunity.

[vomit 502]

Just now, lod001 said:

Yeah they did, idiot.

Show me what changed

[vomit 502]

2 minutes ago, lod001 said:

This is why you don't get injected with an experimental substance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/child-struggled-walk-wrongly-receiving-165755825.html

I can only shake my head about the 'they got an adult dose'. A dose is a dose. If it can fock up a kid with a certain amount, the same amount can fock up a grownup at anytime. It the same crapola whether you got 1 ml or 2 or whatever the standard does is. Everyone who has this in their system is a ticking timebomb. Sorry, that's just a fact. You have no clue what can happen in 3 years, 5 years, etc. 

Its what happens when you dumb down the population. They just accept what they are told. Dumbing down has been going on for a long time now and there is a reason. 

 

You focking idiot.  Dosage is based on weight, just like all medication, alcohol, everything.

Also this was an accident, so I guess you are against all vaccines?

[lod001 1,344]

5 minutes ago, vomit said:

Show me what changed

Read it and weep.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html

The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

 

[lod001 1,344]

3 minutes ago, vomit said:

You focking idiot.  Dosage is based on weight, just like all medication, alcohol, everything.

Also this was an accident, so I guess you are against all vaccines?

No kidding, asshat, however as we see a dose focked them up, just like the 10s of 1000s of others that are dead and the 100s of 1000s that are injured.

It's toxic crap that is completely useless.

[vomit 502]

1 minute ago, lod001 said:

Read it and weep.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html

 

Yeah, we already talked about this ad nauseum, I'm pretty sure I shared the same link.  Let's discuss again...

Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

So what's the problem here?

The term “vaccine” also got a makeover. The CDC’s definition changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

Again, what's the issue?

[nobody 2,694]

The issue is they changed the definition.  

You seem to be suggestions there is no material differences there, but try to use some logic and get away from the semantic bullshìt for just a second.

If they mean the same, why would they feel the need to change it?

 

[vomit 502]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

The issue is they changed the definition.  

You seem to be suggestions there is no material differences there, but try to use some logic and get away from the semantic bullshìt for just a second.

If they mean the same, why would they feel the need to change it?

 

How about you stop with the BS propoganda you focking .  Say your point.  Who cares if they changed the definition.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

21 minutes ago, nobody said:

The issue is they changed the definition.  

You seem to be suggestions there is no material differences there, but try to use some logic and get away from the semantic bullshìt for just a second.

If they mean the same, why would they feel the need to change it?

 

 

The first one obviously means that they are trying to broaden the definition of vaccination to be slightly weaker, however the second change is specifically for mRNA vaccines unrelated to Covid in general.  The below statement is now false.

“a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease”

 

This is because the mRNA vaccines to not stimulate the the immune system. Instead what it does is have your body make a protein. This protein is what stimulates the immune system.

 

The definition had to change because the above quote is false.

[nobody 2,694]

3 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

The first one obviously means that they are trying to broaden the definition of vaccination to be slightly weaker, however the second change is specifically for mRNA vaccines unrelated to Covid in general.  The below statement is now false.

“a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease”

 

This is because the mRNA vaccines to not stimulate the the immune system. Instead what it does is have your body make a protein. This protein is what stimulates the nervous system.

 

The definition had to change because the above quote is false.

I guess I should store this away for when people ask 

Why r b u get vaccinated for polio?  *Drool*

Apparently, what this thing is didn't even qualify as a vaccine before they changed the definition.

 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

8 minutes ago, nobody said:

I guess I should store this away for when people ask 

Why r b u get vaccinated for polio?  *Drool*

Apparently, what this thing is didn't even qualify as a vaccine before they changed the definition.

 

 

I think the pharmaceutical companies did a pretty good job on short order, even though the vaccine is obviously flawed the news from the medical publications have almost been universal in how beneficial the vaccine has been in saving lives. 

I have friends/colleagues elsewhere in the world that had to get more traditional Covid vaccines from Russia, India, or China and the view from the rest of the world is we have the gold standard vaccines. People in other countries wants our vaccines.

There is certainly a risk and it does not prevent infection as much as you would get from vaccines historically, but America(and the west) is still #1 and it shows.

 

 

edit, I also corrected a brain fart in my previous response that you had quoted. 

[vomit 502]

Anti-vaxers are such a$$holes.

DEY CHANGED THE DEFINISION!  ITS NOT A VAXEEN!  Shut up you focking retard.

Man up and say you're too scared to get it.  Stop with all this horse sh!t.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

3 minutes ago, vomit said:

Anti-vaxers are such a$$holes.

DEY CHANGED THE DEFINISION!  ITS NOT A VAXEEN!  Shut up you focking retard.

Man up and say you're too scared to get it.  Stop with all this horse sh!t.

I'm not anti-vaccines.  I think it's dumb for me to get it when I've already had covid though.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Vomit getting a beat down. Take the L kid. 

[nobody 2,694]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm not anti-vaccines.  I think it's dumb for me to get it when I've already had covid though.

Exactly.  I caught covid.  Got over covid.  Now they want me to go get vaccinated for no reason. 

I hope that dude owns a bunch of PFE stock or something since that's what this is really about.