MDC 7,458 Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: No fraud except for the 500+ sworn affidavits You mean a few hundred Trump supporters said they witnessed fraud? Well fock it, just hand Diaper Don the election then. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Gore spent over a month contesting the results in a single state and the left had no problem with it. Trump is contesting the results in multiple states and all of a sudden a couple of weeks is a meltdown. The Bush-Gore fight was about 500 votes in one state... can’t get much closer than that in a nationwide race. And, there were legitimate issues such as the infamous hanging chads. In this case, Trump lost by thousands of votes in multiple states and is just spraying lawsuits everywhere so he can keep the “campaign contributions” coming in to line his pockets a bit more on the way out the door of the White House. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted November 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, tanatastic said: Cool, courts should be reversing all the states any minute now then eh? If it’s not holding up in court, don’t bring it up here, it’s sad. There are over 20 cases currently in litigation https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, dogcows said: The Bush-Gore fight was about 500 votes in one state... can’t get much closer than that in a nationwide race. And, there were legitimate issues such as the infamous hanging chads. In this case, Trump lost by thousands of votes in multiple states and is just spraying lawsuits everywhere so he can keep the “campaign contributions” coming in to line his pockets a bit more on the way out the door of the White House. CNN says so!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, dogcows said: The Bush-Gore fight was about 500 votes in one state... can’t get much closer than that in a nationwide race. And, there were legitimate issues such as the infamous hanging chads. In this case, Trump lost by thousands of votes in multiple states and is just spraying lawsuits everywhere so he can keep the “campaign contributions” coming in to line his pockets a bit more on the way out the door of the White House. Multiple issues here too. Just because you choose to ignore them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Stopping the count being the #1 issue. Coincidently it happened in all the swing states where Biden was getting his ass handed to him. You're not retarded enough to believe the Joe Biden vote count, are you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted November 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Gore spent over a month contesting the results in a single state and the left had no problem with it. Trump is contesting the results in multiple states and all of a sudden a couple of weeks is a meltdown. Not only did they have no problem with it, the “impartial” msm spent the next year doing an independent recount of the results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, drobeski said: Multiple issues here too. Just because you choose to ignore them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Stopping the count being the #1 issue. Coincidently it happened in all the swing states where Biden was getting his ass handed to him. You're not retarded enough to believe the Joe Biden vote count, are you ? When Trump was behind in Arizona, his campaign said “keep counting votes!” When he was ahead in Pennsylvania and Georgia and Biden was catching up, they said “stop counting votes!” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,471 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, drobeski said: Multiple issues here too. Just because you choose to ignore them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Stopping the count being the #1 issue. Coincidently it happened in all the swing states where Biden was getting his ass handed to him. You're not retarded enough to believe the Joe Biden vote count, are you ? I think he is. 80 million. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: This is the real left when they don't get their way. crusty and mdc amd worms oh my. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,555 Posted November 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, dogcows said: The Bush-Gore fight was about 500 votes in one state... can’t get much closer than that in a nationwide race. And, there were legitimate issues such as the infamous hanging chads. In this case, Trump lost by thousands of votes in multiple states and is just spraying lawsuits everywhere so he can keep the “campaign contributions” coming in to line his pockets a bit more on the way out the door of the White House. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. However, there are plenty of instances of perceived fraud and even more instances of provable irregularities. As a country we should get to the bottom of it. If there was substantial voter fraud, through mail in voting, machines being hacked, ballot harvesting and/or ballots being destroyed, the electorate deserves to know. If there wasn't, the electorate deserves to know that too. Given the divisive rhetoric from the left regarding election fraud/rigging and the #Resist movement and litterally Hitler crap we've been subjected to for the last four years, I think we can sit back and let this run it's course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. However, there are plenty of instances of perceived fraud and even more instances of provable irregularities. As a country we should get to the bottom of it. If there was substantial voter fraud, through mail in voting, machines being hacked, ballot harvesting and/or ballots being destroyed, the electorate deserves to know. If there wasn't, the electorate deserves to know that too. Given the divisive rhetoric from the left regarding election fraud/rigging and the #Resist movement and litterally Hitler crap we've been subjected to for the last four years, I think we can sit back and let this run it's course. Sure, let’s waste everybody’s time looking for non-existent fraud. Maybe they can find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster while they’re at it! I don’t seem to recall any other president alleging fraud when they lost the election. Trump is just a sore loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: Your guy lost. Act like it. There was no election fraud, at least not enough to make a difference. This is going to be the most interesting 6 months upcoming. There's gonna be a preponderance of evidence that widespread election tampering has occurred and it will likely be ignored. Both Democrats and Republicans will be implicated. What is so bizarre is that we are so divided on this. So many lefties are concentrating on the 2020 POTUS election, and refuse to see this fraud as a multi election/multi year issue. They are willing to turn a blind eye to investigating fraud because they may be forced to endure four more years of Trump. Isn't anyone concerned that widespread fraud took place in 2018? 2016? Can't you guys get past your TDS? Eric Croomer is on record saying that their software can be manipulated to produce a weighted election outcome if that is what is desired. Now, in 2020, Dominion lies and says its not possible. There PhDs and others with a gazillion initials behind their name stating in affidavits that it is nearly impossible to get the vote dumps that occurred. Why are we so divided on investigating this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, dogcows said: When Trump was behind in Arizona, his campaign said “keep counting votes!” When he was ahead in Pennsylvania and Georgia and Biden was catching up, they said “stop counting votes!” What does it matter what Trump said ? So what ? Does that mean stopping was normal? Jesus you lefties are pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: This is going to be the most interesting 6 months upcoming. There's gonna be a preponderance of evidence that widespread election tampering has occurred and it will likely be ignored. Both Democrats and Republicans will be implicated. What is so bizarre is that we are so divided on this. So many lefties are concentrating on the 2020 POTUS election, and refuse to see this fraud as a multi election/multi year issue. They are willing to turn a blind eye to investigating fraud because they may be forced to endure four more years of Trump. Isn't anyone concerned that widespread fraud took place in 2018? 2016? Can't you guys get past your TDS? Eric Croomer is on record saying that their software can be manipulated to produce a weighted election outcome if that is what is desired. Now, in 2020, Dominion lies and says its not possible. There PhDs and others with a gazillion initials behind their name stating in affidavits that it is nearly impossible to get the vote dumps that occurred. Why are we so divided on investigating this? What evidence is there of fraud? Please produce it! Please send it to Trump and his campaign so they can take it before a judge! Funny, Trump and his campaign go before judges with no evidence and get tossed out dozens of times already. Wait, I know where the fraud is. It’s in the basement of the pizza place Comet Ping-Pong in Washington DC along with the massive child sex ring run by the Clinton foundation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, dogcows said: Sure, let’s waste everybody’s time looking for non-existent fraud. Maybe they can find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster while they’re at it! I don’t seem to recall any other president alleging fraud when they lost the election. Trump is just a sore loser. again they have you thinking its fraud when its not what this is about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, dogcows said: When Trump was behind in Arizona, his campaign said “keep counting votes!” When he was ahead in Pennsylvania and Georgia and Biden was catching up, they said “stop counting votes!” Your lack of seeing the nuance between the two drastically different circumstances in PA/AZ shows how much research you've actually done. Keep believing the MSM talking points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,555 Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, dogcows said: Sure, let’s waste everybody’s time looking for non-existent fraud. Maybe they can find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster while they’re at it! I don’t seem to recall any other president alleging fraud when they lost the election. Trump is just a sore loser. You're really advanced for a 3 year old. Already typing on a low rent fantasy football message board. Kudos! Itsatip, there was fraud and election interference alleged in the very last presidential election in 2016. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, drobeski said: What does it matter what Trump said ? So what ? Does that mean stopping was normal? Jesus you lefties are pathetic. Which is it? Stop counting or keep counting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,471 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: This is going to be the most interesting 6 months upcoming. There's gonna be a preponderance of evidence that widespread election tampering has occurred and it will likely be ignored. Both Democrats and Republicans will be implicated. What is so bizarre is that we are so divided on this. So many lefties are concentrating on the 2020 POTUS election, and refuse to see this fraud as a multi election/multi year issue. They are willing to turn a blind eye to investigating fraud because they may be forced to endure four more years of Trump. Isn't anyone concerned that widespread fraud took place in 2018? 2016? Can't you guys get past your TDS? Eric Croomer is on record saying that their software can be manipulated to produce a weighted election outcome if that is what is desired. Now, in 2020, Dominion lies and says its not possible. There PhDs and others with a gazillion initials behind their name stating in affidavits that it is nearly impossible to get the vote dumps that occurred. Why are we so divided on investigating this? It hurts. It hurt them so bad that night four years ago. And it’s been hurting ever since. Rusty flipped out and started living with cats it was so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 Anybody who actually believes there was massive voter fraud is seriously deluded and out of touch with reality. There is no evidence, and if you believe without evidence... that’s religion or maybe in the case of Trump, a cult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,471 Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, dogcows said: Anybody who actually believes there was massive voter fraud is seriously deluded and out of touch with reality. There is no evidence, and if you believe without evidence... that’s religion or maybe in the case of Trump, a cult? Mostly accurate vote count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: Sure, let’s waste everybody’s time looking for non-existent fraud. Maybe they can find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster... or Russian ghosts.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, dogcows said: What evidence is there of fraud? Please produce it! Read the suits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 Someone ask ? https://hereistheevidence.com/ Be patient, takes a little while to load such little evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, dogcows said: that’s religion or maybe in the case of Trump, a cult? At least you admit that, for you, this is all about your TDS and the fear Trump gets four more years. Its you that has the Trump obsession, not most geeks here. Start a poll asking if most geeks would give up four more years in exchange for rooting out all fraud. Your results will be surprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fireballer said: At least you admit that, for you, this is all about your TDS and the fear Trump gets four more years. Its you that has the Trump obsession, not most geeks here. Start a poll asking if most geeks would give up four more years in exchange for rooting out all fraud. Your results will be surprising. Nope. I just said people that believe things without evidence are generally doing so as part of a religion or cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, dogcows said: Nope. I just said people that believe things without evidence are generally doing so as part of a religion or cult. https://hereistheevidence.com/ Why lie ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,471 Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, dogcows said: Nope. I just said people that believe things without evidence are generally doing so as part of a religion or cult. Denying evidence is part of being in a cult. As a matter of fact. Its the most important part. Hare Krishna! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, dogcows said: Nope. I just said people that believe things without evidence are generally doing so as part of a religion or cult. Before we waste more time, you do know what evidence is, right? Also, what evidence do you think Klobuchar and Warren had last year when they warned about widespread fraud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, drobeski said: Someone ask ? https://hereistheevidence.com/ Be patient, takes a little while to load such little evidence. Wow, did you actually click any of the links of the “‘evidence” on that page? It’s a massive amount of nothing. When you click on “source” - many go to a YouTube video of some Trump supporter just talking about rules concerning people’s residential addresses. And there are claims such as “Illegal voter intimidation & rioting by communist-inspired scum” - is that supposed to be for real? And it just links to a news story with general info about the election. This is NOT evidence. Again, if there is any REAL evidence, Trump’s lawyers should bring it to court. They’ve had plenty of time to do so, and have yet to. I recommend against holding your breath waiting for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Evidence. Since you support Biden getting elected, have you signed up for the military to get shipped out to Iran? Or how about any kids? Get them to sign up? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 Biden got 80mil real votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted November 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, dogcows said: Nope. I just said people that believe things without evidence are generally doing so as part of a religion or cult. so kinda like Russia you are saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020 Executive Summary In the early hours of November 4th, 2020, Democratic candidate Joe Biden received several major “vote spikes” that substantially — and decisively — improved his electoral position in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia. Much skepticism and uncertainty surrounds these “vote spikes.” Critics point to suspicious vote counting practices, extreme differences between the two major candidates’ vote counts, and the timing of the vote updates, among other factors, to cast doubt on the legitimacy of some of these spikes. While data analysis cannot on its own demonstrate fraud or systemic issues, it can point us to statistically anomalous cases that invite further scrutiny. This is one such case: Our analysis finds that a few key vote updates in competitive states were unusually large in size and had an unusually high Biden-to-Trump ratio. We demonstrate the results differ enough from expected results to be cause for concern. With this report, we rely only on publicly available data from the New York Times to identify and analyze statistical anomalies in key states. Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it's not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it's not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both). The significance of this property will be further explained in later sections of this report. Nearly every vote update, across states of all sizes and political leanings follow this statistical pattern. A very small number, however, are especially aberrant. Of the seven vote updates which follow the pattern the least, four individual vote updates — two in Michigan, one in Wisconsin, and one in Georgia — were particularly anomalous and influential with respect to this property and all occurred within the same five hour window. In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers. The four vote updates in question are: An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes. Extensive mathematical detail is provided and the data and the code (for the data-curation, data transformation, plotting, and modeling) are all attached in the appendix to this document 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, drobeski said: Biden got 80mil real votes. Perhaps where you live or among your friends and acquaintances, most people like Trump, so this seems unbelievable. Where I live, most people really can’t stand the guy and wanted him out. Some Biden supporters were shocked that 73 million people voted for Trump! I think we are divided into tribes in America these days, and maybe if Biden is low-key compared to Trump (which I expect he will be), politics won’t be foremost in so many minds, and we can be more United in America. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, dogcows said: Perhaps where you live or among your friends and acquaintances, most people like Trump, so this seems unbelievable. Where I live, most people really can’t stand the guy and wanted him out. Some Biden supporters were shocked that 73 million people voted for Trump! I think we are divided into tribes in America these days, and maybe if Biden is low-key compared to Trump (which I expect he will be), politics won’t be foremost in so many minds, and we can be more United in America. Lol 80 million Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, dogcows said: Again, if there is any REAL evidence, Trump’s lawyers should bring it to court. They’ve had plenty of time to do so, and have yet to. What would some "real" evidence be? Where might it be found? Who would find it? How would it be preserved? Why do you think they've had "plenty" of time to find anything? Again, by you making your statements, you have no idea how investigations work and what it takes to execute them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,471 Posted November 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, dogcows said: Perhaps where you live or among your friends and acquaintances, most people like Trump, so this seems unbelievable. Where I live, most people really can’t stand the guy and wanted him out. Some Biden supporters were shocked that 73 million people voted for Trump! I think we are divided into tribes in America these days, and maybe if Biden is low-key compared to Trump (which I expect he will be), politics won’t be foremost in so many minds, and we can be more United in America. He’s already hiring George Soros people. So I doubt it, seeing as Soros hates America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites