*Official 2020 Election Thread*

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He’s really embarrassing himself. 

No he's not. What's more important than him winning is the obvious election tampering that needs to be covered publically. For liberals to call that embarressing is a farce. They spent four years wasting tax payer money on looking into voting issues but suddenly they are ok with it.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

No he's not. What's more important than him winning is the obvious election tampering that needs to be covered publically. 

Yes, he is. I completely understand being upset if there was wrongdoing here. If it can be proven that Biden won fraudulently then I 100% support Trump staying in office.  There are better ways to handle this than how Trump has been though. He’s a giant child and it’s embarrassing. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Whatever helps him feel better. Perfectly normal way for a professional adult to act, especially the President.  

Maybe you and nancy should have tea together at her new favorite beauty parlor. Maybe she will give you an original impeachment signing pen she had made for all the voting fraud that they spent years looking into. No mask required. It's not like the last hairdresser that she had put out of business for ratting on her. 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Maybe you and nancy should have tea together at her new favorite beauty parlor. Maybe she will give you an original impeachment signing pen she had made for all the voting fraud that they spent years looking into. No mask required. It's not like the last hairdresser that she had put out of business for ratting on her. 

Are you expecting me to defend her or something?  Sorry, but she sucks too. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

YouTube videos are no better. That’s not facts, either. When you’re making assumptions on what will or will not happen based off of some random people on social media, you’re bound to be misinformed at best and just straight up wrong at worst. 

Opinions are not facts.

A lefty telling people to lay off social media, the domain of the left. I’d say you people are shameless,  but it’s not necessary when you read something like that. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A lefty telling people to lay off social media, the domain of the left. I’d say you people are shameless,  but it’s not necessary when you read something like that. 

Just ask her where she gets her facts from, like I asked. She will call you dumb and cut you off.

Liberals are a disease to this nation.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Just ask her where she gets her facts from, like I asked. She will call you dumb and cut you off.

Liberals are a disease to this nation.

Exactly. They don’t watch leftist MSM, or do social media. So what is it?

[OldMaid 2,130]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A lefty telling people to lay off social media, the domain of the left. I’d say you people are shameless,  but it’s not necessary when you read something like that. 

Saying all left leaning liberals are like the crazy people on Twitter, etc. is like saying the whole republican party was as looney as the Tea Party. The fringe on both sides is nuts.

If we were smart, the moderates on both sides would form a coalition. It would ensure that the crazies on either side wouldn’t have enough support to gain traction. 

[drobeski 3,061]

 

[MDC 7,463]

3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

 

Still his turn!  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

4 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Saying all left leaning liberals are like the crazy people on Twitter, etc. is like saying the whole republican party was as looney as the Tea Party. The fringe on both sides is nuts.

If we were smart, the moderates on both sides would form a coalition. It would ensure that the crazies on either side wouldn’t have enough support to gain traction. 

But you’re the one saying to lay off social media for news to the right.Besides, people on the left are into feelings, not news. Social media is a much better source for feelings. The news the left watches says things like “mostly peaceful”, and they nod and repeat. I know the tea party wasn’t splitting atoms, but I never heard anything as stupid as that out of them. It’s just as dumb as “clean coal”. 

[RLLD 4,237]

9 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Saying all left leaning liberals are like the crazy people on Twitter, etc. is like saying the whole republican party was as looney as the Tea Party. The fringe on both sides is nuts.

If we were smart, the moderates on both sides would form a coalition. It would ensure that the crazies on either side wouldn’t have enough support to gain traction. 

+1

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But you’re the one saying to lay off social media for news to the right.Besides, people on the left are into feelings, not news. Social media is a much better source for feelings. The news the left watches says things like “mostly peaceful”, and they nod and repeat. I know the tea party wasn’t splitting atoms, but I never heard anything as stupid as that out of them. It’s just as dumb as “clean coal”. 

Michelle Bachman says hold my beer.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Update:

Pennsylvania: Trump's legal team will refile today to discard 600k ballots in PA.
Georgia: Undertaking a full hand recount. Due to be completed by November 20th.
Wisconsin: Trump can pay $7.9 million for a full recount. Counties of Rock and Milwaukee facing scrutiny.  Rock county called for Trump by AP then reversed later.
Michigan: Suits have been filed regarding the count in the city of Detroit and Wayne county.  Some have been dismissed.  Others are on appeal.  Some are in federal court.
Arizona: Uses Dominion software
Nevada: Uses Dominion software
Overall: Lawsuits are coming regarding the Dominion voting machine used in 30 states.  Attorney (for Michael Flynn) Sidney Powell says they have enough evidence to launch a "massive criminal investigation" of Dominion.  Peter Neffinger was president and on the board of Smartmatic which owns the Dominion software and is also on Biden's transition team. 

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/15/donald-trump-losing-michigan-lawsuits/6269524002/

https://mvc.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294393-2020-11-16-attorney-powell-on-election-legal-challenges-that-remain-active-in.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_V._Neffenger

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-11-16/wisconsin-presidential-recount-would-cost-trump-79-million

https://nycboss.com/2020/11/16/election-overtime-6-states-with-voting-litigation-controversies/

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

Michelle Bachman says hold my beer.

She’s been gone for a while. Yet still, nothing as dumb as “mostly peaceful” as cities burned. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

 

AFAIK, the only "official" source to certify the election is the Electoral College, and that doesn't convene yet for another month.   What "Offical Sources" do you think they're referring too?  The media?  If so, the media is an unofficial source.  HTH.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Basically it is still early days.  We are still needing to complete the GA recount.  Cases in MI and PA are working through the court system.  Trump can still ask for a recount in WI.  And then there is the big Dominion lawsuit towering over all of this.

My gut feeling is that the Dominion lawsuit could be the "big one".  Get that to the Supreme Court, have them rule that the votes have been irreversibly compromised, then free the state legislatures to either not certify anything or send the GOP electors arguing Equal Protection has been wrecked.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

27 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Saying all left leaning liberals are like the crazy people on Twitter, etc. is like saying the whole republican party was as looney as the Tea Party. The fringe on both sides is nuts.

If we were smart, the moderates on both sides would form a coalition. It would ensure that the crazies on either side wouldn’t have enough support to gain traction. 

Just for clarification's sake, what exactly is crazy about wanting lower taxes?  Maybe I missed something in the Tea Party message.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But you’re the one saying to lay off social media for news to the right.Besides, people on the left are into feelings, not news. Social media is a much better source for feelings. The news the left watches says things like “mostly peaceful”, and they nod and repeat. I know the tea party wasn’t splitting atoms, but I never heard anything as stupid as that out of them. It’s just as dumb as “clean coal”. 

"mostly peaceful" as they're standing in front of burning businesses just set on fire by more liberals.  Seriously, you can't make this sh#t up.  It actually happened.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

11 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Update:

Pennsylvania: Trump's legal team will refile today to discard 600k ballots in PA.
Georgia: Undertaking a full hand recount. Due to be completed by November 20th.
Wisconsin: Trump can pay $7.9 million for a full recount. Counties of Rock and Milwaukee facing scrutiny.  Rock county called for Trump by AP then reversed later.
Michigan: Suits have been filed regarding the count in the city of Detroit and Wayne county.  Some have been dismissed.  Others are on appeal.  Some are in federal court.
Arizona: Uses Dominion software
Nevada: Uses Dominion software
Overall: Lawsuits are coming regarding the Dominion voting machine used in 30 states.  Attorney (for Michael Flynn) Sidney Powell says they have enough evidence to launch a "massive criminal investigation" of Dominion.  Peter Neffinger was president and on the board of Smartmatic which owns the Dominion software and is also on Biden's transition team. 

That's not suspicious at all. 

Remember when the liberals screamed outrage at anyone even remotely related to Trump working on anything related to government?  yeah, me too.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"mostly peaceful" as they're standing in front of burning building just set on fire by more liberals.  Seriously, you can't make this sh#t up.  It actually happened.

Exactly. And what reasonable, smart people like Old Maid didn’t seem to get is that they weren’t talking to us with that nonsense , they were talking to her. We were never gonna buy that BS.   But otherwise smart people were so wrapped up in their TDS it worked. And they call Trump voters  the cult. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

Trumps chances of getting all those states reversed and being handed the election out of thin air is the same as the Falcons getting handed the SB over the patriots because they were winning bigly before the 4th qtr and ot and the league reviews every play to make sure there were no flags that should have been thrown. 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

AFAIK, the only "official" source to certify the election is the Electoral College, and that doesn't convene yet for another month.   What "Offical Sources" do you think they're referring too?  The media?  If so, the media is an unofficial source.  HTH.

I don’t know. I wasn’t making any references to anything other than Trump claiming victory. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Just now, tanatastic said:

Trumps chances of getting all those states reversed and being handed the election out of thin air is the same as the Falcons getting handed the SB over the patriots because they were winning bigly before the 4th qtr and ot and the league reviews every play to make sure there were no flags that should have been thrown. 

You seem pretty concerned for a guy who isn’t concerned. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

6 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Trumps chances of getting all those states reversed and being handed the election out of thin air is the same as the Falcons getting handed the SB over the patriots because they were winning bigly before the 4th qtr and ot and the league reviews every play to make sure there were no flags that should have been thrown. 

If Biden gets sworn in, the GOP will outright revolt.  This is the last straw.  Trump is effectively keeping the country together by not conceding.

To be clear.  The revolt won't be over this.  This is the last straw.  This is about decades of lies from democrats and the press.  This is it.  No more.

[tanatastic 2,062]

You could dissect every election ever and “find” signs of fraud if you want to. Everyone involved saying there’s nothing to see and no evidence of fraud except right wing lunatics and cult followers pointing to every shadow, every stat, every everything acting like it’s a smoking gun. They are all in on it! They are all liberal conspirators! This is epic. A month after inauguration they will still be saying Trumps gonna get it reversed and all the schemes will be brought to light! 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

1 minute ago, tanatastic said:

You could dissect every election ever and “find” signs of fraud if you want to. Everyone involved saying there’s nothing to see and no evidence of fraud except right wing lunatics and cult followers pointing to every shadow, every stat, every everything acting like it’s a smoking gun. They are all in on it! They are all liberal conspirators! This is epic. A month after inauguration they will still be saying Trumps gonna get it reversed and all the schemes will be brought to light! 

Take it easy man, let it play out. No harm in looking, it will be better for the country when it’s shown there was no fraud. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

If Biden gets sworn in, the GOP will outright revolt.  This is the last straw.  Trump is effectively keeping the country together by not conceding.

To be clear.  The revolt won't be over this.  This is the last straw.  This is about decades of lies from democrats and the press.  This is it.  No more.

Wrong. Everyone on the right in the gop is desperately hoping and praying Trump concedes so they can focus on their strong presence in the house and senate. There will be zero revolt except from lunatic citizens and cult like followers.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

Just now, tanatastic said:

Wrong. Everyone on the right in the gop is desperately hoping and praying Trump concedes so they can focus on their strong presence in the house and senate. There will be zero revolt except from lunatic citizens and cult like followers.

Like BLM and Antifa who actually have revolted?

[tanatastic 2,062]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Like BLM and Antifa who actually have revolted?

They are lunatics as well, probably even worse. One thing doesn’t make another thing less of a thing.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

2 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

I went back to school in 2009 and graduated in 2011; still paying off that debt. Which is fine. BUT....at the same time, it was crazy expensive and the rates make it very difficult to pay off. So little of the payment goes to the premium, most goes to interest. 

I don't agree with just writing it off; but I think there should be some reform. I also don't agree with getting rid of the ACA, but I don't like some of the "requirements" that it has in it either. 

This is where I am going to differ from straight up Republicans. They want everyone to carry their own medical debt and college debt around with minimal help, yet there doesn't seem to be many suggestions on how to make these system more manageable to pay off.

Getting an education shouldn't be this big of a burden. We should encourage as much education as possible.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Any revolt from trump supporters will be a band of white hillbillies in a few towns waving flags and maybe a few people get shot. The revolt from liberals however in the hypothetical scenario where Trump is handed the presidency would be catastrophic. Like whole cities burned to the ground bad. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

This is where I am going to differ from straight up Republicans. They want everyone to carry their own medical debt and college debt around with minimal help, yet there doesn't seem to be many suggestions on how to make these system more manageable to pay off.

Getting an education shouldn't be this big of a burden. We should encourage as much education as possible.

I'm on board with this to a point as well.  I mean, our government gives BIG BUSINESS all kinds of low interest or interest-free loans, grants and tax relief but the average American citizen can't get any of that?  We either stop the welfare for EVERYONE or we make it fair across the board.  No reason it should cost 20K or more for an education.  That's ridiculous.  We shouldn't be saddling our students with massive debt right out of the gate.

Now, for the "Liberal Arts" or "Business Administration" majors - IDGAF.  If you pick a useless degree maybe you should pay thru the nose.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

So this guy Neffenger , who is on the Biden translation team and was an Obama appointee to the DHS, is on the board of Smartmatic. Could be nothing. Deserves a look see. Anyone would agree with that, right? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

2 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Any revolt from trump supporters will be a band of white hillbillies in a few towns waving flags and maybe a few people get shot. The revolt from liberals however in the hypothetical scenario where Trump is handed the presidency would be catastrophic. Like whole cities burned to the ground bad. 

How could he be handed it without fraud being shown? Your scenario is impossible. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm on board with this to a point as well.  I mean, our government gives BIG BUSINESS all kinds of low interest or interest-free loans, grants and tax relief but the average American citizen can't get any of that?  We either stop the welfare for EVERYONE or we make it fair across the board.  No reason it should cost 20K or more for an education.  That's ridiculous.  We shouldn't be saddling our students with massive debt right out of the gate.

Then tell the banks that made the loan to suck it up. Have the colleges that made all that money give it back. Why should the tax payer be on the hook? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

22 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don’t know. I wasn’t making any references to anything other than Trump claiming victory. 

You're the one who posted a link from Twitter that said "Official Sources Called this Election Differently".  That's exactly what you were referencing to fool people into thinking the election was "officially" called.

[drobeski 3,061]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Take it easy man, let it play out. No harm in looking, it will be better for the country when it’s shown there was no fraud. 

Him and them translated:

"Ok, slow down. Hold the phone for a second. You people need to realize what you're saying.

Even if this is true, you can't just allow people to know this. The ramifications would be huge. I'm talking about actual revolution against the left on an industrial scale. They won't just be out of power, they'll be permanently branded as enemies of America. Do we really want that? I don't think so. That's too much.

So instead of allowing this kind of stuff to be known, how about we just let Biden be president if he promises to do some of the stuff Trump wants? We'll do amnesty, add a few or several justices to SCOTUS, and make PR and DC states to get four more senators, but we are very flexible on everything else.

Plus, election fraud isn't that big of a deal if you really think hard about it. We should remember that they were coming from a good place when they did it. They aren't evil monsters hell bent on controlling people through the destruction of the middle class and total erasure of American history and identity. They don't want to make everyone slaves haha. That's silly. No, they're just misguided so let's go easy on them and that starts with not talking about this.

I'm not going to talk about this and neither should you. Only the media gets to report whether this is true or not, regular people can't do that. So actually this is illegal to even think about. If this wasn't fake then how come it's not on every news channel? Yeah that's it. This is fake actually. The news isn't reporting on it so it's fake. This would be a huge story and they'd make a lot of money by covering it but they aren't because it's fake yeah. Ok, alright this is fake. This is a fake story fake news. I think we should move on to something else. Fake news is dangerous to our democracy."

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then tell the banks that made the loan to suck it up. Have the colleges that made all that money give it back. Why should the tax payer be on the hook? 

Sure - let the banks suck it up. Also, regarding the colleges - almost every single one of them are controlled and run by liberals.  That needs to change.  So these same liberals are saying students are getting screwed and at the same time jacking up tuition every year to obscene levels.  F'n Hypocrites.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sure - let the banks suck it up. Also, regarding the colleges - almost every single one of them are controlled and run by liberals.  That needs to change.  So these same liberals are saying students are getting screwed and at the same time jacking up tuition every year to obscene levels.  F'n Hypocrites.

Yup. And does this mean my kids get to take out a student loan years from now and then have it forgiven? This is a joke.