[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

It has nothing to do with my reading comprehension. It has everything to do with you continually misrepresenting what CRT is. Body blows to children to soften them up for something that once again- CRT IS NOT!

 

Not my fault if you'd rather listen to whatever pundit tells you it exists and bury your head in the sand. Honestly, I expect it because this is why these issues linger over and over. 

 

So a union president allegedly did something stupid about parents he felt were threatening him and that means he supports CRT? Supports all teachers? Like what are you even arguing at this point. 

He has the same views as the teachers union. Pro CRT or whatever you want to call it, pro mask. I’d say he’s in lockstep. And he’s not the union president, he’s the childless school board president. 

[jerryskids 6,836]

18 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It has nothing to do with my reading comprehension. It has everything to do with you continually misrepresenting what CRT is. Body blows to children to soften them up for something that once again- CRT IS NOT!

 

Not my fault if you'd rather listen to whatever pundit tells you it exists and bury your head in the sand. Honestly, I expect it because this is why these issues linger over and over. 

 

Apparently my Spinal Tap reference went over your head, perhaps this will help:

Now tell me again how I’m misrepresenting CRT?

It’s funny, I’ve observed this liberal phenomenon which is somewhere on the autism scale:  the belief that the problem is that you just need to educate people more and they’ll “get it.”  Vaccines are a great example.  The problem isn’t education, the problem is that you (Biden, Fauci, etc., not you Sean) have zero credibility and people don’t trust you as far as they can throw you.  The response?  More education!  

Also funny is that I started this discussion stating that I could hopefully cut off the 50 page semantic debacle at FBG, yet here you are, firing away with your 50 cal semantic rifle about the clinical definition of CRT, after I’ve told you what people are objecting to.

But please, educate me more on how it isn’t technically CRT.  

Also I noticed you didn’t respond to the Biden/OMB “birthing person” link, I’ll take that as a concession on your part.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Apparently my Spinal Tap reference went over your head, perhaps this will help:

Now tell me again how I’m misrepresenting CRT?

It’s funny, I’ve observed this liberal phenomenon which is somewhere on the autism scale:  the belief that the problem is that you just need to educate people more and they’ll “get it.”  Vaccines are a great example.  The problem isn’t education, the problem is that you (Biden, Fauci, etc., not you Sean) have zero credibility and people don’t trust you as far as they can throw you.  The response?  More education!  

Also funny is that I started this discussion stating that I could hopefully cut off the 50 page semantic debacle at FBG, yet here you are, firing away with your 50 cal semantic rifle about the clinical definition of CRT, after I’ve told you what people are objecting to.

But please, educate me more on how it isn’t technically CRT.  

Also I noticed you didn’t respond to the Biden/OMB “birthing person” link, I’ll take that as a concession on your part.

 

It's more I just chalk that up as Presidential pandering. It's why I never really used the racist label for Trump either.

[RLLD 4,254]

29 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It has nothing to do with my reading comprehension. It has everything to do with you continually misrepresenting what CRT is. Body blows to children to soften them up for something that once again- CRT IS NOT!

 

Not my fault if you'd rather listen to whatever pundit tells you it exists and bury your head in the sand. Honestly, I expect it because this is why these issues linger over and over. 

 

So a union president allegedly did something stupid about parents he felt were threatening him and that means he supports CRT? Supports all teachers? Like what are you even arguing at this point. 

 

Interesting point. I love how the Senator highlights exactly what you note.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

Numerous school boards throughout the country have stifled parents speaking out about CRT, whatever, have gone as far as to request the DOJ to get involved. If they weren’t teaching it, they wouldn’t do that. School boards and the teachers are ideologically aligned, and the politicians they donate to back them on demand. How quick did Garland send out that letter after the national school board requested the parents be branded domestic terrorists, for raising their voice?  Go ahead and call your elected official about a pothole and see how long you wait. But if you pay  a lobbyist, like the teachers union does, your pothole gets filled that day. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Numerous school boards throughout the country have stifled parents speaking out about CRT, whatever, have gone as far as to request the DOJ to get involved. If they weren’t teaching it, they wouldn’t do that. School boards and the teachers are ideologically aligned, and the politicians they donate to back them on demand. How quick did Garland send out that letter after the national school board requested the parents be branded domestic terrorists, for raising their voice?  Go ahead and call your elected official about a pothole and see how long you wait. But if you pay  a lobbyist, like the teachers union does, your pothole gets filled that day. 

We missed the boat on school boards.  Over the years, the left was smart and saw what a gold mine it was to indoctrinate kids. We got outflanked and never saw it coming. We assumed that electing people with smiling faces and espoused concern for our kids was enough.  School board members are now activists and Virginia has taken the lead on weeding them out.

[Fireballer 2,643]

48 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

Interesting point. I love how the Senator highlights exactly what you note.

 

"Its not in the ciriculum"  is the company line.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Numerous school boards throughout the country have stifled parents speaking out about CRT, whatever, have gone as far as to request the DOJ to get involved. If they weren’t teaching it, they wouldn’t do that. School boards and the teachers are ideologically aligned, and the politicians they donate to back them on demand. How quick did Garland send out that letter after the national school board requested the parents be branded domestic terrorists, for raising their voice?  Go ahead and call your elected official about a pothole and see how long you wait. But if you pay  a lobbyist, like the teachers union does, your pothole gets filled that day. 

Some parents were threatening school board members with violence. That is why the DOJ got involved. It wasn't about CRT. It doesn't matter to me if believe whatever you want. You are wrong and will just keep getting manipulated into whatever the next boogeyman is. 

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

We missed the boat on school boards.  Over the years, the left was smart and saw what a gold mine it was to indoctrinate kids. We got outflanked and never saw it coming. We assumed that electing people with smiling faces and espoused concern for our kids was enough.  School board members are now activists and Virginia has taken the lead on weeding them out.

 

Yeah- I work with a real liberal school board. Definitely the thought that crossed my mind when in a contract negotiation they refused to let the few Jewish teachers here have high holidays off without using personal days and said "We can't just let every fringe religion have days off."

 

Super liberal. You guys need to stop letting a city district be your guide. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

"Its not in the ciriculum"  is the company line.  

 

"curriculum"......and you can look this stuff up. Go look at your local district curriculum online. If it isn't there request it. This is all public knowledge stuff. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

"curriculum"......and you can look this stuff up. Go look at your local district curriculum online. If it isn't there request it. This is all public knowledge stuff. 

Youre actually right.  Textbook CRT isn't being taught.  The right has mis-branded their concerns as CRT.  That doesn't make these things any less vile or sinister, but not textbook CRT.  

[Gladiators 1,995]

Rioting and looting didn't happen last year either.  It was peaceful protesting.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

31 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

We missed the boat on school boards.  Over the years, the left was smart and saw what a gold mine it was to indoctrinate kids. We got outflanked and never saw it coming. We assumed that electing people with smiling faces and espoused concern for our kids was enough.  School board members are now activists and Virginia has taken the lead on weeding them out.

It’s amazing how many school board members don’t have kids or their kids are grown.  It’s a plan 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

25 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Some parents were threatening school board members with violence. That is why the DOJ got involved. It wasn't about CRT. It doesn't matter to me if believe whatever you want. You are wrong and will just keep getting manipulated into whatever the next boogeyman is. 

 

Yeah- I work with a real liberal school board. Definitely the thought that crossed my mind when in a contract negotiation they refused to let the few Jewish teachers here have high holidays off without using personal days and said "We can't just let every fringe religion have days off."

 

Super liberal. You guys need to stop letting a city district be your guide. 

So “some “ parents were threatening school board members? That warrants the federal department of justice/ fbi getting involved? Since when? How come when cops are credibly threatened , and they are, the DOJ doesn’t step in? Are teachers and school board members being threatened a new thing? I bet/know it’s not.  Why all of a sudden the DOJ steps in? You can fool yourself if you like, but you can’t fool everyone.  

[Fireballer 2,643]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So “some “ parents were threatening school board members? That warrants the federal department of justice/ fbi getting involved? Since when? How come when cops are credibly threatened , and they are, the DOJ doesn’t step in? Are teachers and school board members being threatened a new thing? I bet/know it’s not.  Why all of a sudden the DOJ steps in? You can fool yourself if you like, but you can’t fool everyone.  

Be clear and that it was the DOJ AND White House that intervened No different than Weingarten and crew being consulted before CDC Covid guidance was released and not based on "science".  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Be clear and that it was the DOJ AND White House that intervened No different than Weingarten and crew being consulted before CDC Covid guidance was released and not based on "science".  

Exactly.  Why is the teachers union being consulted? Because they donate and vote the right way, that’s why. And it goes their way every time.  Not once during this have they been denied what they want. They kept our kids out of school because they wanted to. They say kids come first. I’m waiting to see evidence of that.  

[RLLD 4,254]

33 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Rioting and looting didn't happen last year either.  It was peaceful protesting.

 

Mostly.....   

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So “some “ parents were threatening school board members? That warrants the federal department of justice/ fbi getting involved? Since when? How come when cops are credibly threatened , and they are, the DOJ doesn’t step in? Are teachers and school board members being threatened a new thing? I bet/know it’s not.  Why all of a sudden the DOJ steps in? You can fool yourself if you like, but you can’t fool everyone.  

Facts are not meant to fool. Facts are what they are.

Yes- if groups of people are congregating at school board meetings and threatening people that does rise to the level of getting larger organizations involved. Are you thinking large organizations don't get involved when police are threatened? You are being ridiculous. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Facts are not meant to fool. Facts are what they are.

Yes- if groups of people are congregating at school board meetings and threatening people that does rise to the level of getting larger organizations involved. 

Stay in your lane, teach.  Feds have absolutely no reason to get involved in local, isolated issues. This is solely a local issue if in fact laws were broken.  The DOJ was allowed to be weaponized by the White House to scare parents into silence. End of story. You thing the term "domestic terrorism" was used on a whim? And all of  this was orchestrated because of the millions of dollars that Weingarten makes sure hits the pockets of Democrats. Sorry if your occupation has blurred your judgment.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Stay in your lane, teach.  Feds have absolutely no reason to get involved in local, isolated issues. This is solely a local issue if in fact laws were broken.  The DOJ was allowed to be weaponized by the White House to scare parents into silence. End of story. You thing the term "domestic terrorism" was used on a whim? And all of  this was orchestrated because of the millions of dollars that Weingarten makes sure hits the pockets of Democrats. Sorry if your occupation has blurred your judgment.  

 

Just some big left wing conspiracy huh? That's certainly a take. 

My occupation hasn't blurred me any. Your devotion to a cause has blinded you. A cause by the way that is a false flag operation

[Fireballer 2,643]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

Just some big left wing conspiracy huh? That's certainly a take. 

My occupation hasn't blurred me any. Your devotion to a cause has blinded you. A cause by the way that is a false flag operation

Why the DOJ involvement into  local issues?  Why did the  AG of the US have to pen this letter?  What is so special about isolated threats to school board members that rises to this involvement of the Feds?  Local politicians are threatened all the time.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

40 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Facts are not meant to fool. Facts are what they are.

Yes- if groups of people are congregating at school board meetings and threatening people that does rise to the level of getting larger organizations involved. Are you thinking large organizations don't get involved when police are threatened? You are being ridiculous. 

No they don’t.  The local and state police handle it outside of extremely rare instances, not the DOJ and the Attorney General of the United States.  So when do the arrests come down for all of this widespread threatening of school board members? I haven’t seen any. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

People are congregating at public school board meetings and threatening members, yet no one gets arrested. Yeah Sean, it’s a huge threat. Should get the NSA Involved as well. They probably already are. 

[Cantaloupe 44]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

People are congregating at public school board meetings and threatening members, yet no one gets arrested. Yeah Sean, it’s a huge threat. Should get the NSA Involved as well. They probably already are. 

Thank God. They might have stormed the Teachers Lounge and taken selfies. 

[Gladiators 1,995]

It's too bad we can't get the thread title changed.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

7 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Why the DOJ involvement into  local issues?  Why did the  AG of the US have to pen this letter?  What is so special about isolated threats to school board members that rises to this involvement of the Feds?  Local politicians are threatened all the time.  

If there were organized groups of people coming after local politicians it would be, and should be, treated with visits from the DOJ and FBI and whatnot.

7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No they don’t.  The local and state police handle it outside of extremely rare instances, not the DOJ and the Attorney General of the United States.  So when do the arrests come down for all of this widespread threatening of school board members? I haven’t seen any. 

there have been people arrested. Are you serious?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If there were organized groups of people coming after local politicians it would be, and should be, treated with visits from the DOJ and FBI and whatnot.

there have been people arrested. Are you serious?

Where and for what? Yelling because the school board covered up your daughters rape? 

[Fireballer 2,643]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

If there were organized groups of people coming after local politicians it would be, and should be, treated with visits from the DOJ and FBI and whatnot.

 

And whatnot?  LMAO.  There's literally no threat, assault, or (God forbid) hostility, that school boards have suffered that warrants any federal involvement.  Even IF it was warranted, the fukin head of all Federal law enforcement doest pen a crackdown letter in response to a private group who writes an embellished letter.  As far as I can tell, all of these isolated and rare cases are mere misdemeanors.  

On a side note, it's interesting that the NSBA was so concerned with these threats, that they have pulled the letter from their website.  They must have really been scared.  What a joke.  This was a political hit job and nothing more.  Weaponizing federal law enforcement against parents is way overboard. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

media is REALLY going after trump now.  he is the headline on yahoo.  they gotta knock his numbers down because he's the frontrunner by a good margin.  they obviously will fail because at this point hes immune to it.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

If there were organized groups of people coming after local politicians it would be, and should be, treated with visits from the DOJ and FBI and whatnot.

there have been people arrested. Are you serious?

[Fireballer 2,643]

At least they're saying it out loud...high prices aren't an unintended negative result of this admin, they're a feature.

 

[Djgb13 2,339]

Media helped Biden win the election and is keeping people divided now getting their cut with new bill 

 

https://wpde.com/news/connect-to-congress/biden-bill-would-give-local-news-outlets-shot-in-the-arm-11-13-2021?fbclid=IwAR2QfFT7PyfxgsV4hrnNaquQf3jWgGKAhLMfWFAXfWA1qaalN7IIrC_8oAQ

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 hours ago, Fireballer said:

At least they're saying it out loud...high prices aren't an unintended negative result of this admin, they're a feature.

 

If only they would quadruple, we could all retire with our 18 year old sex slaves.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Where and for what? Yelling because the school board covered up your daughters rape? 

Oh so the game is to combine two separate issues now? Again- this is what happens when you have nothing. So I will note you have nothing now. 

19 hours ago, Fireballer said:

And whatnot?  LMAO.  There's literally no threat, assault, or (God forbid) hostility, that school boards have suffered that warrants any federal involvement.  Even IF it was warranted, the fukin head of all Federal law enforcement doest pen a crackdown letter in response to a private group who writes an embellished letter.  As far as I can tell, all of these isolated and rare cases are mere misdemeanors.  

On a side note, it's interesting that the NSBA was so concerned with these threats, that they have pulled the letter from their website.  They must have really been scared.  What a joke.  This was a political hit job and nothing more.  Weaponizing federal law enforcement against parents is way overboard. 

Note I said the word "if." You guys have problems with vocabulary. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

16 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 Note I said the word "if." You guys have problems with vocabulary. 

 

On 11/12/2021 at 12:10 PM, Sean Mooney said:

Some parents were threatening school board members with violence. That is why the DOJ got involved. 

Yesterday you were explaining why DOJ got involved.  Not so much today?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

Nothing? I know of one parent arrested at a school board meeting.  I saw others being led out.  Please, tell us where all these arrests went down and for what.  Shouldn’t take long.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

Just now, Fireballer said:

 

Yesterday you were explaining why DOJ got involved.  Not so much today?  

Yeah you left out the context and flow of the conversation. Again- when someone like you has nothing they try to change the discussion. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nothing? I know of one parent arrested at a school board meeting.  I saw others being led out.  Please, tell us where all these arrests went down and for what.  Shouldn’t take long.  

You literally just told me of an arrest? Again- are you serious with what you ask?

[Fireballer 2,643]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yeah you left out the context and flow of the conversation. Again- when someone like you has nothing they try to change the discussion. 

OMG what a whiny b!tch you are.  This is hilarious. I can't believe you're an adult.  I'm just still looking for justification of why Feds got involved.  Feel free to include any previous posts to regain your "context and flow".  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

OMG what a whiny b!tch you are.  This is hilarious. I can't believe you're an adult.  I'm just still looking for justification of why Feds got involved.  Feel free to include any previous posts to regain your "context and flow".  

You can go back and read- you literally took quotes from two different spots and left out the intermediate dialogue. That isn't being a b!tch. That's you being a disingenuous a$$.

This is what you guys do- twist reality into 8 different directions thinking it means you win. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You can go back and read- you literally took quotes from two different spots and left out the intermediate dialogue. That isn't being a b!tch. That's you being a disingenuous a$$.

This is what you guys do- twist reality into 8 different directions thinking it means you win. 

 

I'll take this as a concession. Don't worry, I'm just an anonymous guy on the internet.  Don't be mad you got schooled. Nothing personal.