[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

How do you feel about the nonsense about CRT? Because lots of stupid sources pushing that and it isn't a thing. 

If you want to play a semantics game, then maybe you’re right.  But the theme and the spirit of crt is definitely being pushed.  Deny that? 

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15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are right now on this thing called the Internet. You can look things up for yourself. But the general thing here is- AP, Reuters, The Hill, Real Clear Politics are all places to get straight news that is relatively free of spin of any kind.

The poster I was responding to said all the stuff against Biden is not media driven which is a crock of sh!t. Because the places I mentioned that you responded to are media sources- unless we want to admit they are not trusted. 

You're spot-on. However, the alt-righties perceive anything to the left of OAN and Newsmax to be liberal media because they unbiasedly report facts with which they. disagree. They don't want facts or unbiased news. They want alt-righty propaganda, which those outlets provide to keep viewers/readers and make revenue, which unbiased news sources struggle to do because people flock to the extremes.

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28 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

How do you feel about the nonsense about CRT? Because lots of stupid sources pushing that and it isn't a thing. 

I used to do CrossFit.  Well, not technically.  The workouts and approach were very similar, but it wasn’t a licensed CrossFit gym.  So I guess I didn’t do CrossFit.  The workouts sure kicked my ass tho.   

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

AP, Reuters, The Hill, Real Clear Politics.

 

Outside of the US- the BBC

OK list although I would probably challenge you a bit on AP and BBC being truly unbiased.     AP has been slipping.    

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55 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

How do you feel about the nonsense about CRT? Because lots of stupid sources pushing that and it isn't a thing. 

 CRT isn't real?

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

29 minutes ago, Masshole said:

OK list although I would probably challenge you a bit on AP and BBC being truly unbiased.     AP has been slipping.    

That is fine. There may be some flexibility in some things from one person to the next. But honestly those sources of any are far more middle of the road than stuff like FOX News, MSNBC, The Federalist, or Mother Jones.

27 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

 CRT isn't real?

At a collegiate level sure it exists. It is not taught in K-12 curriculum. And just a lesson about race is not CRT as so many claim. Problem is people conflate race with CRT and the two are not the same thing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

That is fine. There may be some flexibility in some things from one person to the next. But honestly those sources of any are far more middle of the road than stuff like FOX News, MSNBC, The Federalist, or Mother Jones.

At a collegiate level sure it exists. It is not taught in K-12 curriculum. And just a lesson about race is not CRT as so many claim. Problem is people conflate race with CRT and the two are not the same thing. 

Then why have school districts paid the likes of Ibrahim X Kendy boatloads of money to consult? 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then why have school districts paid the likes of Ibrahim X Kendy boatloads of money to consult? 

Because some right wing publication told you that happened and stripped out all the surrounding details to make it look like a 1:1 scenario?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Because some right wing publication told you that happened and stripped out all the surrounding details to make it look like a 1:1 scenario?

Enlighten me. Thanks. Because that is not an answer.  

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Enlighten me. Thanks. 

Again- you are on the Internet. You can search things up.

K-12 does not have CRT in the curriculum. Reading a book by Kendy does not automatically equal CRT is everywhere. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- you are on the Internet. You can search things up.

K-12 does not have CRT in the curriculum. Reading a book by Kendy does not automatically equal CRT is everywhere. 

I didn’t say it was simple as reading a book. I’m talking about paying him and Deangelo and Merrick Garlands sons firm boatloads of money to consult. Just tell me why they have done that, because they have. It’s on the internet.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

People like Sean are employing a Motte- Bailey strategy. It’s simple but effective. And easy to figure out. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I didn’t say it was simple as reading a book. I’m talking about paying him and Deangelo and Merrick Garlands sons firm boatloads of money to consult. Just tell me why they have done that, because they have. It’s on the internet.  

Again- CRT is not in K-12 curriculum. Consulting is not curriculum nor policy.

Bring something better than this nonsense you are spewing.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- CRT is not in K-12 curriculum. Consulting is not curriculum nor policy.

Bring something better than this nonsense you are spewing.

You’re wrong. Play your little game. I suggest you look up Chris Rufo. He has the documents showing it’s being taught.  Documents. Get back to me and apologize after you do. But you won’t. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

“We don’t serve Coke”. But you do serve Cola.  It’s pretty much all the same. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

Amazing teachers busy themselves with this bullshit as our country sinks further and further behind on the important stuff. Also tired of hearing how hard they had it during Covid. No they didn’t. It was just different. Not harder.  Fockin drama queens. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

The chinese flu was.....berry berry good to me. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

The chinese flu was.....berry berry good to me. 

Bat soup! It was the bats! - Trusted media. 

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Bat soup! It was the bats! - Trusted media. 

Yeah they will be blaming Ozzy next. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

32 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- CRT is not in K-12 curriculum. Consulting is not curriculum nor policy.

Bring something better than this nonsense you are spewing.

Tony Kinnett is the STEM coordinator for the largest public school system in Indiana. He says CRT is being taught. It’s on the internet, you have access and can look it up.  Get back to me. Lol. But you won’t. 

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- you are on the Internet. You can search things up.

K-12 does not have CRT in the curriculum. Reading a book by Kendy does not automatically equal CRT is everywhere. 

Ahhhh I see what you're doing here. You're moving the goal post from your original statement by adding "not automatically equal CRT is everywhere"

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

People like Sean are employing a Motte- Bailey strategy. It’s simple but effective. And easy to figure out. 

Just making facile arguments, really.  It is the prevailing form of so-called discourse, unfortunately. Take a remedial position and ignore the true complexities of whatever is being debated.  

I repeat something I posted here a few days ago— it’s ironic that this is coming from the moral relativism crowd.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re wrong. Play your little game. I suggest you look up Chris Rufo. He has the documents showing it’s being taught.  Documents. Get back to me and apologize after you do. But you won’t. 

The guy who admitted he was "redefining what CRT is." Yeah he is an idiot and a liar. But he has DOCUMENTS!!! 

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Amazing teachers busy themselves with this bullshit as our country sinks further and further behind on the important stuff. Also tired of hearing how hard they had it during Covid. No they didn’t. It was just different. Not harder.  Fockin drama queens. 

You are a clown. It's amazing someone like you bothers with fake stuff like this. Do you get outraged in between Hot Pockets?

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tony Kinnett is the STEM coordinator for the largest public school system in Indiana. He says CRT is being taught. It’s on the internet, you have access and can look it up.  Get back to me. Lol. But you won’t. 

He is doing the same thing you are doing- conflating a mention of race with CRT. The only difference is he is smart enough and should know better. Also, he is a bit of a liar too. 

4 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Ahhhh I see what you're doing here. You're moving the goal post from your original statement by adding "not automatically equal CRT is everywhere"

I stand by my original statement. CRT is not in K-12 curriculum. It is not everywhere, it is not anywhere. Well- it is in the imagination of dopey people but otherwise it isn't there. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

19 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The guy who admitted he was "redefining what CRT is." Yeah he is an idiot and a liar. But he has DOCUMENTS!!! 

You are a clown. It's amazing someone like you bothers with fake stuff like this. Do you get outraged in between Hot Pockets?

He is doing the same thing you are doing- conflating a mention of race with CRT. The only difference is he is smart enough and should know better. Also, he is a bit of a liar too. 

I stand by my original statement. CRT is not in K-12 curriculum. It is not everywhere, it is not anywhere. Well- it is in the imagination of dopey people but otherwise it isn't there. 

Pepsi/Coke.  Still cola. And official documents obtained via a FOIA aren’t good enough for you either? And oh yeah, 6 mayors have committed to teaching CRT in their school systems. I guess that didn’t happen either.  And please tell me how difficult it was for teachers during Covid. I didn’t notice. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Pepsi/Coke.  Still cola. And official documents obtained via a FOIA aren’t good enough for you either? And oh yeah, 6 mayors have committed to teaching CRT in their school systems. I guess that didn’t happen either.  And please tell me how difficult it was for teachers during Covid. I didn’t notice. 

CRT is not taught in K-12 curriculum despite what a hardcore conservative activist thinks he uncovered. Endorsement is not enactment. 

And it wouldn't matter if I explained how hard it was/is still for teachers. You don't want to believe it anyway. It would be hard for someone like you who doesn't work to understand it. 

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this white supremacist is just making stuff up

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,358]

another white supremacist. These people need to stop

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I'm down with treating everyone the same despite the color of their skin.

That's "old school" now.  Well, I guess I'm old school.  

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

11 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

CRT is not taught in K-12 curriculum despite what a hardcore conservative activist thinks he uncovered. Endorsement is not enactment. 

And it wouldn't matter if I explained how hard it was/is still for teachers. You don't want to believe it anyway. It would be hard for someone like you who doesn't work to understand it. 

I was privy to what was going on with teachers. Saw it every day. Saw the lack of work being done up close and personal. That’s why I got the Fock away from public schools and more importantly, public school teachers. Private schools are much better. I wonder why?  Better teachers I guess. 

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8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I was privy to what was going on with teachers. Saw it every day. Saw the lack of work being done up close and personal. That’s why I got the Fock away from public schools and more importantly, public school teachers. Private schools are much better. I wonder why?  Better teachers I guess. 

I'm sure ......but oh no- documents and anecdotal evidence now....look out.

 

And despite how many videos of people who misinterpret race Raiders posts it still doesn't make it all true to life. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

Infrastructure bill passes House. Great jobs report which also upticked some of the previous months. A great Friday for Biden following a bad Tuesday

 

#ThankYouBrandon #BuildBackBetter

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

21 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm sure ......but oh no- documents and anecdotal evidence now....look out.

 

And despite how many videos of people who misinterpret race Raiders posts it still doesn't make it all true to life. 

Right. Lumping in official documents obtained legally in with anecdotal evidence. And by the way, anecdotal evidence is still evidence. Duh. Anecdotal evidence on its own may not make the case, but it’s part of the evidence. You would think a guy who teaches science would know that you consider everything. Anyhow, do you think CRT or some version of it should be taught in schools? And don’t say history. I learned plenty about slavery and Jim Crow and so did everyone else. Difference is, no one told me I was responsible for it or it’s aftermath. I was just a kid, that would be ridiculous. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Liberals are so stupid.

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[Sean Mooney 1,984]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Right. Lumping in official documents obtained legally in with anecdotal evidence. And by the way, anecdotal evidence is still evidence. Duh. Anecdotal evidence on its own may not make the case, but it’s part of the evidence. You would think a guy who teaches science would know that you consider everything. Anyhow, do you think CRT or some version of it should be taught in schools? And don’t say history. I learned plenty about slavery and Jim Crow and so did everyone else. Difference is, no one told me I was responsible for it or it’s aftermath. I was just a kid, that would be ridiculous. 

CRT is not taught in a K-12 curriculum.

History should be taught but because so many people equate "race" with "CRT" that leads to people trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War without mentioning slavery.

CRT does not argue that all white people are oppressors and does not argue that all black people are oppressed. It posits that people are not racist. Social institutions are laced with racism that has been embedded over years of regulations. For example, redlining happened in the wake of WWII as American tried to establish the American Dream and the home in the suburbs for families. The housing systems were stacked against black people at the time and it led to decades of policies that hurt black people and black neighborhoods financially. CRT scholars would argue that the way the suburbs were developed had racial undertones and created a biased system but people who live in the suburbs today are not automatically racist because of it. Furthermore, the theory would say a white person today can't do anything about what happened in the past, but we can do something about what is happening in the present and the future. So basically- CRT actually argues that people as individuals are not racist. And if someone tells you they are it is either someone who doesn't understand what CRT actually is, or someone who is swinging wildly to overstep their bounds. 

So if it were taught in a 6th grade classroom (which it is not) the message would be "How do make sure stuff like happened in the past does not happen again."

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10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

CRT is not taught in a K-12 curriculum.

History should be taught but because so many people equate "race" with "CRT" that leads to people trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War without mentioning slavery.

CRT does not argue that all white people are oppressors and does not argue that all black people are oppressed. It posits that people are not racist. Social institutions are laced with racism that has been embedded over years of regulations. For example, redlining happened in the wake of WWII as American tried to establish the American Dream and the home in the suburbs for families. The housing systems were stacked against black people at the time and it led to decades of policies that hurt black people and black neighborhoods financially. CRT scholars would argue that the way the suburbs were developed had racial undertones and created a biased system but people who live in the suburbs today are not automatically racist because of it. Furthermore, the theory would say a white person today can't do anything about what happened in the past, but we can do something about what is happening in the present and the future. So basically- CRT actually argues that people as individuals are not racist. And if someone tells you they are it is either someone who doesn't understand what CRT actually is, or someone who is swinging wildly to overstep their bounds. 

So if it were taught in a 6th grade classroom (which it is not) the message would be "How do make sure stuff like happened in the past does not happen again."

Just to be clear. You're telling us how something that according to you doesn't exist would be taught if it did in fact exist. Despite the countless examples out there of CRT being taught not the way you're suggesting it would be taught, if it existed... but it doesn't, but if it did it wouldn't be taught like people teaching it are saying it's being taught... because it doesn't exist.

...huh.

In the book 1984 they have a word for people like you. That word is doublethink

In George Orwell's dystopian classic 1984, doublethink is the act of holding, simultaneously, two opposite, individually exclusive ideas or opinions and believing in both simultaneously and absolutely. Doublethink requires using logic against logic or suspending disbelief in the contradiction.

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29 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Just to be clear. You're telling us how something that according to you doesn't exist would be taught if it did in fact exist. Despite the countless examples out there of CRT being taught not the way you're suggesting it would be taught, if it existed... but it doesn't, but if it did it wouldn't be taught like people teaching it are saying it's being taught... because it doesn't exist.

...huh.

In the book 1984 they have a word for people like you. That word is doublethink

In George Orwell's dystopian classic 1984, doublethink is the act of holding, simultaneously, two opposite, individually exclusive ideas or opinions and believing in both simultaneously and absolutely. Doublethink requires using logic against logic or suspending disbelief in the contradiction.

1.) I've read Orwell's book many times and am very familiar with it. Glad you are at least trying.

2.) Let me be very clear yet again CRT is not in a K-12 curriculum. Then I am also saying that people who are against CRT often conflate anything race related to CRT. The two things are not connected. That is why there are parents trying to ban teaching slavery as part of Civil War discussion right now. CRT exists at a collegiate level as a theoretical concept. So my last sentence was if it were to be taught in a 6th grade classroom at some point that would be the conceit. I'm not holding two opposite opinions. I'm being very clear about the overarching idea, telling you and others you don't actually know what CRT is, and that if it were ever to creep it's way into schools what the concept would be. You are conflating things together that don't fit together to try and make yourself right.  

[wiffleball 4,790]

Google Joe Biden and Invisible jet pack. That was freaking weird. 

 

 

Also, when he was asked about supply chain issues and couldnt remember Long Beach port. He literally asked in the middle of a national Town Hall, "what am I doing here?"

 

Hope to God the GOP can come up with an actual candidate.

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3 hours ago, Fireballer said:

 

First football game.  You are a liberal cheerleader.  What do you do?

"First and Ten do it again....Lets go Brandon!"

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18 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Google Joe Biden and Invisible jet pack. That was freaking weird. 

 

 

Also, when he was asked about supply chain issues and couldnt remember Long Beach port. He literally asked in the middle of a national Town Hall, "what am I doing here?"

 

Hope to God the GOP can come up with an actual candidate.

Thats trump.  And we will be 4 years along the process of blacks and browns turning into trumpers.