[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[Frozenbeernuts 2,229]

The whole process is a joke. It makes me wonder how we Claw back the power from these people. There has to be another way besides going to war with ourselves.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t deal with it because it’s not true. Economically, socially, foreign policy wise- Trump was worse in every way. It’s not even particularly close. 

In what universe is the economy better than it was under Trump, especially pre-Covid?  Inflation has destroyed this economy.  It’s another thing that Democrats and the MSM have been lying about and hiding from the American people.  This is a house of cards we are looking it.  People compensated for the inflation by running up huge amounts of debt.  When the payback comes due, the house of cards will fall.  Bank on it.

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Teaching entire generations they are not responsible for their contracted debt.

Allowing, even facilitating, dangerous, violent criminals from violent societies to enter and roam our country unmonitored and unchecked.

Interferring with market forces in the transportation industry and then not accomodating the changes with promised infrastructure such as charging stations for EV's

Disincentivizing achievement by emphasizing so called equity.

 

BTW, I have no idea what current conservative ideas are.  At one time they pretended to stand for fiscal responsibility but that charade has been laid bare.

 

Well your last paragraph kind of gives it away and provides every rebuttal I would have offered you. Sure you make some decent points, especially the “interfering with market forces” part- that’s the main reason I voted Republican most of my life: but the current crop of conservatives know nothing about market forces and their policies (anti-trade, pro-tariff, anti-migration, anti-globalism) are far worse than liberals. Liberals under Biden at least are cognizant of the market some of the time. So I stand by my assertion- liberal policies are almost uniformly better. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

In what universe is the economy better than it was under Trump, especially pre-Covid?  Inflation has destroyed this economy.  It’s another thing that Democrats and the MSM have been lying about and hiding from the American people.  This is a house of cards we are looking it.  People compensated for the inflation by running up huge amounts of debt.  When the payback comes due, the house of cards will fall.  Bank on it.

In the real universe in which Trump’s tax cuts and tariffs and moves away from energy reform spelled long term doom for our economy. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

Understand that I agree that the equity part of DEI is bad for the economy. But compared to Trump’s tariffs it’s like pennies on the dollar. Compared to the current anti-immigration movement of conservatives it’s like pennies on a $500 bill. It’s not even close to the main problem. 
 

This is what frustrates me so much about conservatives these days. You guys focus on the minor stuff and you can’t see the forest for the trees. Take the Chips Act. It’s got all kinds of DEI crap in it for sure. All kinds of liberal provisions. But despite all that it will absolutely transform American industry. Long term it’s going to provide huge prosperity especially to red states. It’s a huge win for America. Yet all of you opposed it because you can’t tolerate the DEI stuff. It’s stupid. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

39 pct of Americans report skipping meals so they can pay their rent. 

[nobody 2,643]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Understand that I agree that the equity part of DEI is bad for the economy. But compared to Trump’s tariffs it’s like pennies on the dollar. Compared to the current anti-immigration movement of conservatives it’s like pennies on a $500 bill. It’s not even close to the main problem. 
 

This is what frustrates me so much about conservatives these days. You guys focus on the minor stuff and you can’t see the forest for the trees. Take the Chips Act. It’s got all kinds of DEI crap in it for sure. All kinds of liberal provisions. But despite all that it will absolutely transform American industry. Long term it’s going to provide huge prosperity especially to red states. It’s a huge win for America. Yet all of you opposed it because you can’t tolerate the DEI stuff. It’s stupid. 

Your team thought shutting down the economy and handing out free money in lieu of working for two years over the flu was a good idea.  I can't fathom why you think you can talk about what's good for the economy. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t think of a liberal policy that is inferior to current conservative ideas. Seriously I can’t. 

Left / Right

 

Socialist / Capitalist 

Equity / merit

Color of skin / content of character 

more government / less government. 

America last / America first 

equal ending for all / equal start for all.

open borders / close borders with orderly immigration. 

men can become women / science, X X, or XY.

Men can become pregnant / men can’t become pregnant

guns kill people / people kill people. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Understand that I agree that the equity part of DEI is bad for the economy. But compared to Trump’s tariffs it’s like pennies on the dollar. Compared to the current anti-immigration movement of conservatives it’s like pennies on a $500 bill. It’s not even close to the main problem. 
 

This is what frustrates me so much about conservatives these days. You guys focus on the minor stuff and you can’t see the forest for the trees. Take the Chips Act. It’s got all kinds of DEI crap in it for sure. All kinds of liberal provisions. But despite all that it will absolutely transform American industry. Long term it’s going to provide huge prosperity especially to red states. It’s a huge win for America. Yet all of you opposed it because you can’t tolerate the DEI stuff. It’s stupid. 

Tim you are such a bot sometimes

that NPC meme fits perfect

Trump tariffs 

Biden tariffs 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

Maine and New Hampshire in play. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

43 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Tim you are such a bot sometimes

that NPC meme fits perfect

Trump tariffs 

Biden tariffs 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/biden-sharply-hikes-us-tariffs-billions-chinese-chips-cars-2024-05-14/
 

Biden sharply hikes US tariffs on an array of Chinese imports

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

In the real universe in which Trump’s tax cuts and tariffs and moves away from energy reform spelled long term doom for our economy. 

I’ve seen no good study or paper to support this notion.  I’d be open to seeing it.

We have plenty of evidence that the key inflection point in the inflationary blowup was when Biden spent too much after Covid started to subside.  You remember - when Larry Summers and leading economists warned about exactly what would happen.  And then it happened.  It was entirely predictable.  Biden mismanaged that critical time period, the whole time lying to the American people about it.  “Transitory”  

It will be 10-25 years before the lower and middle class recover from Bidenflation.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

 

Left / Right

 

Socialist / Capitalist 

Equity / merit

Color of skin / content of character 

more government / less government. 

America last / America first 

equal ending for all / equal start for all.

open borders / close borders with orderly immigration. 

men can become women / science, X X, or XY.

Men can become pregnant / men can’t become pregnant

guns kill people / people kill people. 

Brilliant in its simplicity.

Well done.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Your team thought shutting down the economy and handing out free money in lieu of working for two years over the flu was a good idea.  I can't fathom why you think you can talk about what's good for the economy. 

What do you expect when you let children run things?  Free stuff, free college, no personal accountability, no sexual accountability, no criminal accountability.

Put the kids back at the kids table and keep them there.

[lod001 1,344]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

39 pct of Americans report skipping meals so they can pay their rent. 

As fat as most people are, this could be a good thing.

[lod001 1,344]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t think of a liberal policy that is inferior to current conservative ideas. Seriously I can’t. 

The post of a complete retard. Seriously, this clown has an IQ of a turnip.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

4 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The post of a complete retard. Seriously, this clown has an IQ of a turnip.

Turnips Everywhere:  Whoaaa...easy there.  We don't appreciate that at all.  Don't associate us to that guy.

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

I never knew turnips were so intelligent. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

I remember when we used to hear about people being “food insecure” from the left.  I guess thats not an issue anymore.  Good. 

[Bill E. 703]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well you don’t really have to. If Biden refuses to quit, and the Democrats “get what they deserve,” then Trump will be our next President. 

You said I was voting for Trump to punish somebody. I'm not voting for Trump to punish somebody I'm voting for him to straighten out the country.

 

"If you truly believe that’s Trump then fine, vote for him. But don’t do it to punish anyone. That’s just crappy. "

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

48 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

You said I was voting for Trump to punish somebody. I'm not voting for Trump to punish somebody I'm voting for him to straighten out the country.

 

"If you truly believe that’s Trump then fine, vote for him. But don’t do it to punish anyone. That’s just crappy. "

You also wrote that you want :Democrats to get what they deserve, which sounds like you’re eager for punishment and retribution. 
But whatever. What amazes me is that you actually believe that Trump could ever straighten out anything. What in his track record makes you believe this? His incompetence the last time out led to economic calamity and the unnecessary deaths of millions of people. Before that he drove every business he ever had into bankruptcy. Putting all politics aside he’s a corrupt fool who gets everything wrong. What could he ever straighten out? 

[squistion 2,105]

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1782821751568646149

Don’t inject bleach.

And don’t vote for the guy who told you to inject bleach

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

Democrat voters in our major cities are being punished.  And deservedly so. Hopefully they will have enough punishment for their foolish, destructive decisions at some point.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1782821751568646149

Don’t inject bleach.

And don’t vote for the guy who told you to inject bleach

Who said people should inject bleach? Never heard anyone say that. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,898]

29 minutes ago, squistion said:

And don’t vote for the guy who told you to inject bleach

But voting for a racist Pedophile is ok? 

You Pedocrats are something special 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1782821751568646149

Don’t inject bleach.

And don’t vote for the guy who told you to inject bleach

youre such a tool, nobody EVER said inject bleach 

you have to be the dumbest person around

there are injections to disinfect blood btw that already exist

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28263081/

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

53 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

youre such a tool, nobody EVER said inject bleach 

you have to be the dumbest person around

there are injections to disinfect blood btw that already exist

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28263081/

Hmm. You’re wrong. 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191216

Ive always thought people made too much of this. Trump’s incompetence during Covid, which cost this country hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, had little to do with his comments, stupid as they were. It was his overall policy, or lack of one, which was so incredibly dreadful. For details I highly recommend the book The Divider which is composed entirely of interviews with his closest aides and advisors at the time. Nobody can read that book and come away thinking this guy should be anywhere near the White House ever again. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Hmm. You’re wrong. 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191216

Ive always thought people made too much of this. Trump’s incompetence during Covid, which cost this country hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, had little to do with his comments, stupid as they were. It was his overall policy, or lack of one, which was so incredibly dreadful. For details I highly recommend the book The Divider which is composed entirely of interviews with his closest aides and advisors at the time. Nobody can read that book and come away thinking this guy should be anywhere near the White House ever again. 

I like how you conveniently forgot about Cuomo in New York killing thousands of elderly. But, OMG! TRUMP!!!

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I like how you conveniently forgot about Cuomo in New York killing thousands of elderly. But, OMG! TRUMP!!!

Whatever his errors Cuomo was a governor. Trump was my President. As Harry Truman said, this is where the buck stops. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hmm. You’re wrong. 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191216

Ive always thought people made too much of this. Trump’s incompetence during Covid, which cost this country hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, had little to do with his comments, stupid as they were. It was his overall policy, or lack of one, which was so incredibly dreadful. For details I highly recommend the book The Divider which is composed entirely of interviews with his closest aides and advisors at the time. Nobody can read that book and come away thinking this guy should be anywhere near the White House ever again. 

“He didn’t specify the type of disinfectant”.  No, you’re wrong. And once again, didn’t bother to read your own bullshitt. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

youre such a tool, nobody EVER said inject bleach 

you have to be the dumbest person around

there are injections to disinfect blood btw that already exist

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28263081/

Trump suggested people inject bleach.  Don't play dumb.

And no, that's not how we treat viruses.

[Mark Davis 385]

8 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Teaching entire generations they are not responsible for their contracted debt.

Allowing, even facilitating, dangerous, violent criminals from violent societies to enter and roam our country unmonitored and unchecked.

Interferring with market forces in the transportation industry and then not accomodating the changes with promised infrastructure such as charging stations for EV's

Disincentivizing achievement by emphasizing so called equity.

 

BTW, I have no idea what current conservative ideas are.  At one time they pretended to stand for fiscal responsibility but that charade has been laid bare.

 

This one along with inflation is why Biden was trailing Trump even before the debate.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hmm. You’re wrong. 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191216

Ive always thought people made too much of this. Trump’s incompetence during Covid, which cost this country hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, had little to do with his comments, stupid as they were. It was his overall policy, or lack of one, which was so incredibly dreadful. For details I highly recommend the book The Divider which is composed entirely of interviews with his closest aides and advisors at the time. Nobody can read that book and come away thinking this guy should be anywhere near the White House ever again. 

how am I wrong, did Trump say to inject bleach?

or did Trump say, there are ways to disinfect, maybe we can look into doing that directly into the lungs

of course people like you envision him telling people to get a needle, fill it with bleach and inject themselves in the lungs

ok

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

21 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Trump suggested people inject bleach.  Don't play dumb.

And no, that's not how we treat viruses.

once again, where did he suggest that people inject bleach

he was talking to a doctor and asking a question

spare me the nonsense

if you want to say hes stupid for asking I am ok with that

and if you don't think we have alternatives for blood cleansing you are also dumb

red light therapy is another alternative used

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Whatever his errors Cuomo was a governor. Trump was my President. As Harry Truman said, this is where the buck stops. 

so you wanted him to be a dictator

Trump followed the constitution, and everything that Trump did was direct suggestions of fauci and his team, including pushing the vaccines

[Patented Phil 1,469]

23 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Trump suggested people inject bleach.  Don't play dumb.

And no, that's not how we treat viruses.

You are such a feckless idiot.  A useful idiot.  He did NOT suggest people in next bleach.  He postulated about doctors looking into such a treatment, which is dumb enough:

And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

That is not suggesting that people inject bleach.  Not in any interpretation of the English language - which you suck at by the way.  Jesus Christ, even Politifact dispelled Biden’s debate lie about this.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

once again, where did he suggest that people inject bleach

he was talking to a doctor and asking a question

spare me the nonsense

if you want to say hes stupid for asking I am ok with that

and if you don't think we have alternatives for blood cleansing you are also dumb

red light therapy is another alternative used

These people are PATHOLOGICAL LIARS.  They don’t even recognize the truth when the printed words are right in front of them.  Seriously - they are mentally ill.  Emotional children.

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

Why are we talking about Trump in the Potato thread?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,309]

4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Why are we talking about Trump in the Potato thread?

cause they have nothing positive to say about Pedo the Racist, so its shift to but but but Trump OMB TDS!!!!!

[Mark Davis 385]

5 hours ago, lod001 said:

As fat as most people are, this could be a good thing.

You're not kidding.  Think of all these healthcare costs that are debated that we could save.