***Wagering thread***

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

1 minute ago, kilroy69 said:

No but I had some  pretty good advice as to why I should have. Just did not believe 

I’m confused. You had San Fran to win the game right? ML or giving the points?

[kilroy69 1,216]

2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I’m confused. You had San Fran to win the game right? ML or giving the points?

I took the moneyline on the 9ers even though I was advised not to. The points on the browns would have paid out like 13k. The 9ers winning would have been 8,700

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

Just now, kilroy69 said:

I took the moneyline even though I was advised not to. The points on the browns would have paid out like 13k. The 9ers winning would have been 8,700

Gotcha 

[kilroy69 1,216]

This weeks refereeing assignments

 

• Falcons at Buccaneers  — Ron Torbert
• Bills at Patriots  — Clete Blakeman
• Browns at Colts  — Shawn Smith
• Lions at Ravens  — Brad Rogers
• Raiders at Bears  — Clay Martin
• Commanders at Giants  — John Hussey 100 percent chance this crew fuccks something important up in this game. 
• Cardinals at Seahawks  — Scott Novak
• Steelers at Rams  — Craig Wrolstad
• Packers at Broncos  — Alex Kemp
• Chargers at Chiefs  — Tra Blake
• Dolphins at Eagles   — Brad Allen

[BeenHereBefore 1,467]

13 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

This weeks refereeing assignments

 

• Falcons at Buccaneers  — Ron Torbert
• Bills at Patriots  — Clete Blakeman
• Browns at Colts  — Shawn Smith
• Lions at Ravens  — Brad Rogers
• Raiders at Bears  — Clay Martin
• Commanders at Giants  — John Hussey 100 percent chance this crew fuccks something important up in this game. 
• Cardinals at Seahawks  — Scott Novak
• Steelers at Rams  — Craig Wrolstad
• Packers at Broncos  — Alex Kemp
• Chargers at Chiefs  — Tra Blake
• Dolphins at Eagles   — Brad Allen

Is this where you get your research ? Heck guess it's worth the time since you are getting  good at over 10 leg parlays. I mostly think what the general public would bet and go the opposite. I also if there was a big blowout game the week before, I take the team and points against the team that  won the blowout, Then take the team that got blown out and the points,

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

i don't generally do point spread or totals parlays anymore. I did hit a nice one back in 2018 $10 to win $1200. I think it was only 8 legs though. I've hit others but they max out at a few hundred since I bet often but usually a unit for me is $5-$10. 

I tend to stick to player prop parlays with some combination of over receptions, over yards, over TD passes and anytime TDs. I don't like betting unders. Obviously if I don't like the over on a prop that means I am leaning toward the under, and unders hit all the time but with the NFL and the emphasis on offense and rules being skewed in favor of the offense, I just find it hard to want to cheer for a player to NOT produce. 

I also prefer receptions and receiving yards, generally, to rushing yards and I mostly stay away from passing yards. 

[kilroy69 1,216]

3 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Is this where you get your research ? Heck guess it's worth the time since you are getting  good at over 10 leg parlays. I mostly think what the general public would bet and go the opposite. I also if there was a big blowout game the week before, I take the team and points against the team that  won the blowout, Then take the team that got blown out and the points,

I have just recently been paying attention to the ref assignments. I will skip any game that John Hussey refs going forward. His crew is a bunch of focking morons and they are NEVER wrong. Even if the video evidence clearly shows they are. They are also the crew that allowed Jawuan Taylor to line pull his bullshitt the first week against the lions. The only thig his crew is consistent at is being bad. Seeing as how there is no accountability for them I am just going to pass on betting any game he refs. Forever.  

[bostonlager 2,664]

Just now, kilroy69 said:

I have just recently been paying attention to the ref assignments. I will skip any game that John Hussey refs going forward. His crew is a bunch of focking morons. 

I used to know a guy that did some analysis on the score keeper at each stadium in regards to how generous they were when handing out tackles + assists. He used this knowledge to crush T+A props. It was a little more work than I wanted to put in so I stick with offensive props. 

[bostonlager 2,664]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

i don't generally do point spread or totals parlays anymore. I did hit a nice one back in 2018 $10 to win $1200. I think it was only 8 legs though. I've hit others but they max out at a few hundred since I bet often but usually a unit for me is $5-$10. 

I tend to stick to player prop parlays with some combination of over receptions, over yards, over TD passes and anytime TDs. I don't like betting unders. Obviously if I don't like the over on a prop that means I am leaning toward the under, and unders hit all the time but with the NFL and the emphasis on offense and rules being skewed in favor of the offense, I just find it hard to want to cheer for a player to NOT produce. 

I also prefer receptions and receiving yards, generally, to rushing yards and I mostly stay away from passing yards. 

Post your prop plays in here. Don’t be shy, WW 

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

7 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Post your prop plays in here. Don’t be shy, WW 

I posted a handful last week 

[kilroy69 1,216]

This is my parlay

Lions ML

Packers ML

travis etienne 50 yards and Saints ML

Seahawks ML and Under 44.5

Steelers ML under 43.5 

 

+13144 at 50 dollars for a payout of 6,622

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

On 10/14/2023 at 11:34 PM, WhiteWonder said:

. 
 

a few props that stand out to me 

Downs over 3.5rec (this is -180 though and his over yards I think is 45.5 which I also like) cousins over 1.5pass tds, Osborn over 3.5rec, waddle over 4.5rec at +100, Hubbard over 47.5rush yards, Foreman anytime TD, Chase anytime TD, Burrow over 1.5pass tds

have not looked at the afternoon games yet

 

9 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Post your prop plays in here. Don’t be shy, WW 

I think those went 6-2

[listen2me 23 1,825]

21 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

I used to know a guy that did some analysis on the score keeper at each stadium in regards to how generous they were when handing out tackles + assists. He used this knowledge to crush T+A props. It was a little more work than I wanted to put in so I stick with offensive props. 

Seattle was one that handed out assists like candy.   

[bostonlager 2,664]

21 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I posted a handful last week 

My bad, buddy. My drunkass overlooked them 

[bostonlager 2,664]

11 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Seattle was one that handed out assists like candy.   

I remember him saying that about Seattle. Might be worth a look to see what we can do. Any idea where we could find such analysis?

[BeenHereBefore 1,467]

22 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

This is my parlay

Lions ML

Packers ML

travis etienne 50 yards and Saints ML

Seahawks ML and Under 44.5

Steelers ML under 43.5 

 

+13144 at 50 dollars for a payout of 6,622

I tailed it without the Travis prop bet on FD for $5 and pays 311.

[listen2me 23 1,825]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

I remember him saying that about Seattle. Might be worth a look to see what we can do. Any idea where we could find such analysis?

I'm not sure.  A gambling buddy of mine, my old bookie used to say that about Seattle.  After hearing that it did seem like tackles were given easily.  Although I didn't do any formal research.  

[BeenHereBefore 1,467]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

i don't generally do point spread or totals parlays anymore. I did hit a nice one back in 2018 $10 to win $1200. I think it was only 8 legs though. I've hit others but they max out at a few hundred since I bet often but usually a unit for me is $5-$10. 

I tend to stick to player prop parlays with some combination of over receptions, over yards, over TD passes and anytime TDs. I don't like betting unders. Obviously if I don't like the over on a prop that means I am leaning toward the under, and unders hit all the time but with the NFL and the emphasis on offense and rules being skewed in favor of the offense, I just find it hard to want to cheer for a player to NOT produce. 

I also prefer receptions and receiving yards, generally, to rushing yards and I mostly stay away from passing yards. 

I hate watching the games when I bet under so get ya.

[bostonlager 2,664]

On 10/14/2023 at 10:08 PM, bostonlager said:

Arizona at LA Rams

Zach Ertz o 3.5 receptions

Cooper Kupp o 7.5 receptions

 

On 10/15/2023 at 5:19 AM, bostonlager said:

Detroit at Tampa 

Rachaad White u 49.5 rushing

Baker Mayfield o 32.5 pass att

Amon Ra St Brown o 5.5 receptions

Mike Evans o 4.5 receptions

Philadelphia at NY Jets

D'Andre Swift o 2.5 receptions

Dallas Goedert o 37.5 receiving

Breece Hall u 56.5 rushing

New England at Oakland 

DeVante Adams o 74.5 receiving

Jakobi Meyers o 56.5 receiving

 

 

On 10/16/2023 at 5:31 PM, bostonlager said:

Dallas at San Diego 

Jake Ferguson o 3.5 receptions

Tony Pollards o 68.5 rushing

Dak Prescott u 12.5 rushing

Josh Palmer u 3.5 receptions

Week 1: 11-7

Week 2: 7-14

Week 3: 20-11

Week 4:14-13

Week 5: 16-12

Week 6: 18-22

Season: 86 - 79

I avoided updated this as long as I could because week 6 can suck my balls. I'm entering the lab now to start on week 7.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

I wanted some action tonight so I’m hopping on some weekday college football.

Sam Houston St.  -5.5

Sam Houston St.  -3.5 1st half

NMST/UTEP  o47.5 total

[BeenHereBefore 1,467]

I'll post some of my NFL spread parlays towards the weekend and haven't look at them yet. I usually do a 4 one and a 5 and 6 one. Was pretty good last week and hit the 4 one and just missed the 5 and 6 one. Will say for Thurs game I like the Saints and why the heck is Jax getting the + 1.5 ? Sounds shady to me,  I get that Saints are the home team but still shady to me and will be a lot of money on Jax.

[kilroy69 1,216]

21 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I'll post some of my NFL spread parlays towards the weekend and haven't look at them yet. I usually do a 4 one and a 5 and 6 one. Was pretty good last week and hit the 4 one and just missed the 5 and 6 one. Will say for Thurs game I like the Saints and why the heck is Jax getting the + 1.5 ? Sounds shady to me,  I get that Saints are the home team but still shady to me and will be a lot of money on Jax.

They are likely hedging on the fact that trevor lawrence may not even start. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,467]

11 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

They are likely hedging on the fact that trevor lawrence may not even start. 

Oh didn't know that but still like the Saints.

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

I remember him saying that about Seattle. Might be worth a look to see what we can do. Any idea where we could find such analysis?

I drafted tremaine edmunds in an idp dynasty league as a rookie, despite thinking he was overrated, because Buffalo was (is?) notorious for being generous with tackle and assist numbers. 

[bostonlager 2,664]

Jacksonville at New Orleans

Alvin Kamara o 30.5 receiving

Alvin Kamara o 4.5 receptions

 

Trevor Lawrence availability focks this game. In Geek Ball league edjr has Alvin Kamara and I play him this week. , so I'm betting on his overs and I still win if he sucks

[bostonlager 2,664]

Jacksonville now in wong range due to Trevor Lawrence injury. I'm not adding to combinations

Not sure if I missed them, but just added Denver +1.5 to the combos. 

Keeping an eye on Detroit. Would love to get them 2.5

[edjr 6,578]

2 wongs don’t make a white

[mattman7168 39]

Quick info for anyone that's new to wong teasers like I am.

On DK I was manually adjusting the spreads of the games with the Alternate Lines tab, and then placing my bets. However, from the main NFL list, if you simply select the teams that fall within the proper range for betting and go to the bet slip, there is a tab next to the parlay tab labeled Teasers, and you can then select 6, 6.5, or 7 point teases. Plus the odds tend to be slightly better than how I was manually changing the spreads (at least from my experience).

I also discovered that I was unable to tease NCAAF games manually by 6 points, but using the newly discovered Teasers tab in the bet slip, I can tease the college games 6 points (and up to 10 points for a "Super Teaser").

Hope this helps someone!

[Horseman 2,367]

On 10/16/2023 at 5:28 PM, bostonlager said:

Week 7 wong combinations now with a few games to keep an eye on as they could slip into range. 

Atlanta +2.5

Buffalo -8.5

Indianapolis +2

NY Giants +2

Seattle -7.5

Miami +1.5

 

I'll take the bottom 3.  

Miami getting points plus. Yes please. 

Seattle should win that game so they'll win by 2. 

And you heard it here first - I think the Giants beat the Redskins.  As long as its Tyrod, second start theory.  

[Fireballer 2,639]

For anyone who hasn’t seen it, pinesports.com is a great resource for researching props and how often players hit the prop line. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

On 10/16/2023 at 8:28 PM, bostonlager said:

Week 7 wong combinations now with a few games to keep an eye on as they could slip into range. 

Atlanta +2.5

Buffalo -8.5

Indianapolis +2

NY Giants +2

Seattle -7.5

Miami +1.5

 

I wish apps would let you round robin teasers.  FD or DK doesn't have an easy way of doing this.  I would also add Chicago to this, currently at +3.

[bostonlager 2,664]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I wish apps would let you round robin teasers.  FD or DK doesn't have an easy way of doing this.  I would also add Chicago to this, currently at +3.

So far this year I have been sticking strictly to the Wong rules, but have been tempted to expand a bit. The only issue is, many books now grade the entire bet as a loser if any of the teaser legs tie. I agree about the inconvenience, no easy way to place these. You have to manually enter them one by one. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I wish apps would let you round robin teasers.  FD or DK doesn't have an easy way of doing this.  I would also add Chicago to this, currently at +3.

Which is it?  It won’t let you do it, or the method isn’t easy enough for you? It’s pretty straightforward on FD. 

[bostonlager 2,664]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I wish apps would let you round robin teasers.  FD or DK doesn't have an easy way of doing this.  I would also add Chicago to this, currently at +3.

Pushing 3 up to 9 - I think you are good. 

Pushing 9 down to 3 - No go

[bostonlager 2,664]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Which is it?  It won’t let you do it, or the method isn’t easy enough for you? It’s pretty straightforward on FD. 

Will they do it as all 2 team teasers or do they do it like mattman had happen to him last week where it did all possible combos of 2 team, 3 team, and 4 team plays?

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Man, I am just getting destroyed in college football this year.  Ugh.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Which is it?  It won’t let you do it, or the method isn’t easy enough for you? It’s pretty straightforward on FD. 

How do you do it on FD?  If you pick 5 sides, they have option to tease all of them together, or to round robin the sides, but I don't see a round robin teaser option.  So they let you tease them, but you have to enter them 2 at a time.

[mattman7168 39]

15 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I wish apps would let you round robin teasers.  FD or DK doesn't have an easy way of doing this.  I would also add Chicago to this, currently at +3.

It's not entirely easy but if you choose the Alternate Spread on DK, you can manually adjust the spread up or down the desired 6 points as needed. I did this last week for 5 teams, then in the bet slip I was able to choose the round robin for my wong teasers. Not the most convenient but easy enough still.

Otherwise, if you simply choose the teams you want in the parlay you can round robin them in the bet slip but the points won't be adjusted. However, next to the parlay tab in the bet slip there is a teaser tab that will automatically add 6 points to all the teams selected...but you won't be able to round robin those.

[Fireballer 2,639]

36 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

How do you do it on FD?  If you pick 5 sides, they have option to tease all of them together, or to round robin the sides, but I don't see a round robin teaser option.  So they let you tease them, but you have to enter them 2 at a time.

 

39 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Will they do it as all 2 team teasers or do they do it like mattman had happen to him last week where it did all possible combos of 2 team, 3 team, and 4 team plays?

You have to go through each game and select the alternate spread that you desire.  For example, you have to select NYG as +8.5.  Get all 5 games n your bet slip and then click on Round Robin.  It will give you a couple of options, you need to select “by 2s”.  There are a couple of issues.  FD only lets you pick alternates as .5.  You can’t take Bears from +3 to +9.  It has to be 8.5 or 9.5. No biggie really, 9 is kind of a dead number. Also, the juice is worse on the particular 5 games I picked.  That’s a variable from game to game and book to book.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

35 minutes ago, mattman7168 said:

It's not entirely easy but if you choose the Alternate Spread on DK, you can manually adjust the spread up or down the desired 6 points as needed. I did this last week for 5 teams, then in the bet slip I was able to choose the round robin for my wong teasers. Not the most convenient but easy enough still.

Otherwise, if you simply choose the teams you want in the parlay you can round robin them in the bet slip but the points won't be adjusted. However, next to the parlay tab in the bet slip there is a teaser tab that will automatically add 6 points to all the teams selected...but you won't be able to round robin those.

Yeah I saw that alt spread in DK, but I didn't go as far as seeing what the odds were for doing that vs a straight teaser.  You would assume they are the same but I'm not sure.  The one I looked at was -140 which seems low.