Ukraine - Doomsday

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

20 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I respect Putin for being anti-woke and taking the fight approach on a number of cultural issues but that's where the respect ends. He's a brutal dictator who orders hits on people and every now-and-again, invades countries on his border for no reason. The US and NATO have become candy ass dweebs that have lost their sense of mission and purpose and are beholden to corporatist globalist hacks, but they're still the best hope for the planet to keep the wolves at bay if they can every get their act together.

Maybe Putin's realpolitik belligerence will cause reality to dawn on these idiots.

Why don't you send a message to Xi Jinping, demanding that he pitch in to help keep them wolves at bay.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, vomit said:

These idiots are fed Russian propoganda.  They don't know any better.

Got to give Putin credit, he knows who he can mess with when there is a hussein obama or creepy joe biden in office. 

Weak leaders. Pushovers. Both of them.   

[Voltaire 5,322]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Got to give Putin credit, he knows who he can mess with when there is a hussein obama or creepy joe biden in office. 

Weak leaders. Pushovers. Both of them.   

Turd W. Bushtard was in office when he invaded Georgia.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Turd W. Bushtard was in office when he invaded Georgia.

same uniparty war monger pu55ies

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Again, on one hand some of you clowns claim that Democrat presidents are warmongers, even though a Democrat president hasn't gotten us into a conflict since Vietnam. Then on the other hand you claim that Russia does these things because it perceives Democrat presidents to be weak.

These are contradictory viewpoints.

Perhaps Russia is taking advantage of what it perceives to be Clownzo and you alt-right, knob-slobbing meat puppets creating divisiveness in this country.

 

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2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Again, on one hand some of you clowns claim that Democrat presidents are warmongers, even though a Democrat president hasn't gotten us into a conflict since Vietnam. Then on the other hand you claim that Russia does these things because it perceives Democrat presidents to be weak.

These are contradictory viewpoints.

Perhaps Russia is taking advantage of what it perceives to be Clownzo and you alt-right, knob-slobbing meat puppets creating divisiveness in this country.

 

Dude, you can't blame the righties for being hypocritical and political and then blame the whole thing on Trump.

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Turd W. Bushtard was in office when he invaded Georgia.

I didn't go back that far, but, ok. Add him to the list along side of hussein and creepy joe. 

I've always thought that hussein was the worst president ever mostly because of his racial divide campaign that has proven to extremely successful for him, but biden is absolutely in the picture now. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Just now, vomit said:

Dude, you can't blame the righties for being hypocritical and political and then blame the whole thing on Clownzo.

Where have I blamed anything about this on Clownzo other than making a sarcastic remark somewhere in this thread?

If anything, Putin didn't do this while Clownzo was in office because they were chummy -  two narcissistic, power-hungry, autocratic and psychopathic peas in a pod. It's not good when Putin loves having a guy like that in the White House.

Reagan was president during almost the entirety of the Soviet Union's occupation of Afghanistan. 

Other an his bobble about the scope of a Russian invasion, Biden - and the rest of the world - have taken a pretty tough, hardcore stance on this, to the point where Putin is putting his nuclear program on high alert. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

This is chilling:

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/27/1083359982/snl-cold-open-ukraine-chorus

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

32 minutes ago, vomit said:

And that's a bad thing?

Worked out great in Iran. Now they hate us and are getting or do have nukes. So yeah, it’s a bad thing focking around with other volatile regions of the world. Jesus Christ man, read a book. 

[Casual Observer 597]

31 minutes ago, vomit said:

You throw around the tag pedo defender when I've never defended a pedo in my life.

 

 

I made a post in the locked thread mentioning how you deny things.  You're acting as predicted.  You earned your label through your own words that plenty here saw.  You're not going to deny it.

[Casual Observer 597]

35 minutes ago, vomit said:

These idiots are fed Russian propoganda.  They don't know any better.

Give us more NYT and CNN links, you sheep.

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Worked out great in Iran. Now they hate us and are getting or do have nukes. So yeah, it’s a bad thing focking around with other volatile regions of the world. Jesus Christ man, read a book. 

Guess we should have stayed out of WW2

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12 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Give us more NYT and CNN links, you sheep.

So yeah that's the left, and then you have rt which is the right, and you gotta use your head to find the truth.  You just choose to believe the Russian side which makes you no better than the sheep that choose the CNN propaganda.

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15 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

I made a post in the locked thread mentioning how you deny things.  You're acting as predicted.  You earned your label through your own words that plenty here saw.  You're not going to deny it.

Yes, I will forever deny being a pedo defender because I  not, despite you faggots making that sh!t up because I made fun of you.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

5 minutes ago, vomit said:

So yeah that's the left, and then you have rt which is the right, and you gotta use your head to find the truth.  You just choose to believe the Russian side which makes you no better than the sheep that choose the CNN propaganda.

Outside of the likes of Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper, CNN does a decent job with straight-forward, fact-based news, as does Fox outside of Tucker Carlson.

You're absolutely correct on sorting through all of it to find what's closest to the truth. I follow Reuters, Associated Press, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, Yahoo, Google, New York Times, MSN, MSNBC, Newsmax, OAN, The Wall Street Journal, BBC  and NPR, among others. 

[naomi 356]

Apparently this is the full text of a speech Putin gave on Thursday: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/

[Utilit99 4,099]

59 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Outside of the likes of Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper, CNN does a decent job with straight-forward, fact-based news, as does Fox outside of Tucker Carlson.

You're absolutely correct on sorting through all of it to find what's closest to the truth. I follow Reuters, Associated Press, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, Yahoo, Google, New York Times, MSN, MSNBC, Newsmax, OAN, The Wall Street Journal, BBC  and NPR, among others. 

 Liberals are so stupid. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

 Liberals are so stupid. 

You're such a man child. Go look for yourself. 

CNN and Fox do a decent job writing straight-forward news. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You're such a man child. Go look for yourself. 

CNN and Fox do a decent job writing straight-forward news. 

cnn. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Putin shouldn't have activated his nuke troops. 

[Cdub100 3,934]

42 minutes ago, naomi said:

Apparently this is the full text of a speech Putin gave on Thursday: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/

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"Where did this insolent manner of talking down from the height of their exceptionalism, infallibility and all-permissiveness come from?"

Something about this line is familiar. 

Furthermore...

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"As a result, the old treaties and agreements are no longer effective. Entreaties and requests do not help. Anything that does not suit the dominant state, the powers that be, is denounced as archaic, obsolete and useless. At the same time, everything it regards as useful is presented as the ultimate truth and forced on others regardless of the cost, abusively and by any means available. Those who refuse to comply are subjected to strong-arm tactics."

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"...the so-called collective West was actively supporting separatism and gangs of mercenaries in southern Russia. What victims, what losses we had to sustain and what trials we had to go through at that time before we broke the back of international terrorism in the Caucasus! We remember this and will never forget."

Chilling...

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"The attempt to appease the aggressor ahead of the Great Patriotic War proved to be a mistake which came at a high cost for our people. In the first months after the hostilities broke out, we lost vast territories of strategic importance, as well as millions of lives. We will not make this mistake the second time. We have no right to do so."

Russia is seeing the writing on the wall

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We can see that the forces that staged the coup in Ukraine in 2014 have seized power, are keeping it with the help of ornamental election procedures and have abandoned the path of a peaceful conflict settlement. For eight years, for eight endless years we have been doing everything possible to settle the situation by peaceful political means. Everything was in vain.

Very interesting speech. Seems like Russia has had enough.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Something about this line is familiar. 

Furthermore...

Chilling...

Russia is seeing the writing on the wall

Very interesting speech. Seems like Russia has had enough.

Condoleezza Rice thinks Putin has become delusional and erratic, but you keep on standing up for your beloved Putin.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/596023-condoleezza-rice-describes-putin-as-delusional-erratic

His allies have abandoned him.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/putin-allies-abandon-him-over-145753271.html

I sure hope there is someone over there who will either talk him down or take him down. He's focking nuts.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

3 hours ago, vomit said:

Guess we should have stayed out of WW2

We were staying out of it until we were attacked. Have we been attacked here? Did Iran attack us before we installed the Sha? Good grief. 

[Cdub100 3,934]

52 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Condoleezza Rice thinks Putin has become delusional and erratic, but you keep on standing up for your beloved Putin.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/596023-condoleezza-rice-describes-putin-as-delusional-erratic

His allies have abandoned him.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/putin-allies-abandon-him-over-145753271.html

I sure hope there is someone over there who will either talk him down or take him down. He's focking nuts.

 

"...everything it regards as useful is presented as the ultimate truth and forced on others regardless of the cost, abusively and by any means available. Those who refuse to comply are subjected to strong-arm tactics."

[wiffleball 4,790]

Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah on Sunday blasted his fellow GOP members who attended a White nationalist event and those who support Russia President Vladimir Putin as the country invades Ukraine.

“Look, there is no place in either political party for this White nationalism or racism. It’s simply wrong … it’s evil as well,” Romney told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.” “(Rep.) Marjorie Taylor Greene and (Rep.) Paul Gosar, I don’t know them, but I’m reminded of that old line from the ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’ movie where - where one character says, ‘Morons, I’ve got morons on my team.’ And I have to think anybody that would sit down with White nationalists and speak at their conference was certainly missing a few IQ points.”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Everyone the alphabet organizations, UN, WEF, NATO and others , gang up on is a madman. While that may be true in most cases, maybe it’s a good idea not to poke the one with the nukes, oil and large army? Call me crazy. Maybe pick your battles a little more wisely.  

[wiffleball 4,790]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Everyone the alphabet organizations, UN, WEF, NATO and others , gang up on is a madman. While that may be true in most cases, maybe it’s a good idea not to poke the one with the nukes, oil and large army? Call me crazy. Maybe pick your battles a little more wisely.  

Thank you, Neville Chamberlain. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah on Sunday blasted his fellow GOP members who attended a White nationalist event and those who support Russia President Vladimir Putin as the country invades Ukraine.

“Look, there is no place in either political party for this White nationalism or racism. It’s simply wrong … it’s evil as well,” Romney told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.” “(Rep.) Marjorie Taylor Greene and (Rep.) Paul Gosar, I don’t know them, but I’m reminded of that old line from the ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’ movie where - where one character says, ‘Morons, I’ve got morons on my team.’ And I have to think anybody that would sit down with White nationalists and speak at their conference was certainly missing a few IQ points.”

Who supports Putin? Maybe they sat down with what Romney calls white nationalists, they say that about everyone, but I haven’t heard anyone supporting Putin. If they did, Fock em. But I doubt they did. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Thank you, Neville Chamberlain. 

If Hitler had nukes and oil Chamberlain might have come out looking better. Alas, he had neither so no points for your poor correlation. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who supports Putin? Maybe they sat down with what Romney calls white nationalists, they say that about everyone, but I haven’t heard anyone supporting Putin. If they did, Fock em. But I doubt they did. 

Well. This is the guy who organized the conference...

Last week, Fuentes wrote on the messaging app Telegram, “I am totally rooting for Russia,” while also referring to Putin as “my Czar.”

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah on Sunday blasted his fellow GOP members who attended a White nationalist event and those who support Russia President Vladimir Putin as the country invades Ukraine.

“Look, there is no place in either political party for this White nationalism or racism. It’s simply wrong … it’s evil as well,” Romney told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.” “(Rep.) Marjorie Taylor Greene and (Rep.) Paul Gosar, I don’t know them, but I’m reminded of that old line from the ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’ movie where - where one character says, ‘Morons, I’ve got morons on my team.’ And I have to think anybody that would sit down with White nationalists and speak at their conference was certainly missing a few IQ points.”

OMG!!! Not the rino mitt romney??!!!  Ohhh...the pain of just now realizing it. The world is going crazy. Woe is me.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

7 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Well. This is the guy who organized the conference...

Last week, Fuentes wrote on the messaging app Telegram, “I am totally rooting for Russia,” while also referring to Putin as “my Czar.”

I was referring to elected people. But yeah, not a good look for that guy. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I was referring to elected people. But yeah, not a good look for that guy. 

meh they don't have problem when communists talk in our country, who gives a crap what some random dude says

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

meh they don't have problem when communists talk in our country, who gives a crap what some random dude says

True. Ohmar can refer to 9/11 and claim”some people did something” and I don’t recall Romney getting worked up. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

I find it hilarious that Americans are “standing with ukraine” and love how even old people are getting guns to fight with. Yet these same Americans don’t want anyone here to have guns and say that guns are terrible. Won’t ever have a need for them. This ordeal proves not only are they wrong, but also that they’re full of sh1t

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

am I wrong in looking at it like this?

lets say russia came into california and took out the regime there and caused california to leave the US, and then the US wanted to take back california?

how is this any different?

 

[wiffleball 4,790]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

am I wrong in looking at it like this?

lets say russia came into california and took out the regime there and caused california to leave the US, and then the US wanted to take back california?

how is this any different?

 

Fock are you babbling about?

[Masshole 642]

Absolutely crushing it in this article that ties together all of this:  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble 

Even a  "Russiagate"  tie in:

In 2016, the Hillary Clinton campaign came calling on Ukrainian officials and activists to lend some Slavic authenticity to its Russia collusion narrative targeting Donald Trump. Indeed, Russiagate’s central storyline was about Ukraine. Yes, Trump had supposedly been compromised by a sex tape filmed in Moscow, but Putin’s ostensible reason for helping Trump win the presidency was to get him to drop Ukraine-related sanctions. Here was another chance for Ukraine to stick it to Putin, and gain favor with what it imagined would be the winning party in the American election.

With the CIA’s Brennan and a host of senior FBI and DOJ officials pushing Russiagate into the press—and running an illegal espionage campaign against the Trump team—Ukrainian political figures gladly joined in. Key participants included Kyiv’s ambassador to Washington, who wrote a Trump-Russia piece for the U.S. press, and a member of the Ukrainian parliament who allegedly contributed to the dossier. The collusion narrative was also augmented by Ukrainian American operatives, like Alexandra Chalupa, who was tied into the Democratic Party’s NGO complex. The idea that this game might have consequences for Ukraine’s relations with its more powerful neighbor doesn’t seem to have entered the heads of either the feckless Ukrainians or the American political operatives who cynically used them.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

3 minutes ago, Masshole said:

Absolutely crushing it in this article that ties together all of this:  https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble 

Even a  "Russiagate"  tie in:

In 2016, the Hillary Clinton campaign came calling on Ukrainian officials and activists to lend some Slavic authenticity to its Russia collusion narrative targeting Donald Trump. Indeed, Russiagate’s central storyline was about Ukraine. Yes, Trump had supposedly been compromised by a sex tape filmed in Moscow, but Putin’s ostensible reason for helping Trump win the presidency was to get him to drop Ukraine-related sanctions. Here was another chance for Ukraine to stick it to Putin, and gain favor with what it imagined would be the winning party in the American election.

With the CIA’s Brennan and a host of senior FBI and DOJ officials pushing Russiagate into the press—and running an illegal espionage campaign against the Trump team—Ukrainian political figures gladly joined in. Key participants included Kyiv’s ambassador to Washington, who wrote a Trump-Russia piece for the U.S. press, and a member of the Ukrainian parliament who allegedly contributed to the dossier. The collusion narrative was also augmented by Ukrainian American operatives, like Alexandra Chalupa, who was tied into the Democratic Party’s NGO complex. The idea that this game might have consequences for Ukraine’s relations with its more powerful neighbor doesn’t seem to have entered the heads of either the feckless Ukrainians or the American political operatives who cynically used them.

Yeah , Fock the Ukrainian president and the rest of his crew as well as Putin