Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted February 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: It's easier to fix than decades of Yooper inbreeding, resulting in morons who think it's OK for a regime with a long history of tyranny, oppression, human-rights violations, aggression and genocide to attack a democratic country that has some corruption in its past. That ol' alt-righty two-wrongs-make-a-right mindset, coupled with the usual throwing out the baby with the bath water mentality. “Some corruption in its past”. Ha ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: “Some corruption in its past”. Ha ha. Amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: What's this about the USA? You spoiled little b!tch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, vomit said: You spoiled little b!tch Hey look it's the super smart moderate. Here to tell us how all sides are bad and he know what the truth is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, Cdub100 said: Amazing. And Ukraine ain’t no democracy. It’s a kleptocracy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Hey look it's the super smart moderate. Here to tell us how all sides are bad and he know what the truth is. You're gonna lose, . Death to tyranny. Freedom!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, vomit said: You're gonna lose, . Death to tyranny. Freedom!!! You're chained to the ground looking at shadows and calling it freedom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,374 Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so then Russia should have fought then to keep it? I am just looking at this objectively, how was Ukraine able to just bounce we have it in our constitution that states can secede It was the Soviet Union and included Russia and Ukraine. Why can't Ukraine overtake Russia for the same reason? Russia is not the Soviet Union, it was a part of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 28, 2022 Clownzo blocked Ukraine aid in 2019. https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/ukraine-aid-trump-call-omb/index.html https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html Gee, no wonder why Putin didn't invade while this commie softie was in the White House. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: Germany is getting downright frisky over there. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/27/world/europe/germany-ukraine-russia.html It's good to have seven of the world's top 10 militaries on our side, and they're all right there around Russia. https://www.thetealmango.com/featured/strongest-militaries-in-the-world/ Good for them. Their populations will all be paying 3 times the prior cost for natural gas and oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 28, 2022 I almost always have your back CDub, but not today. I admire Putin's commitment to anti-wokeness and traditional values and gender roles. Also, his assessment of what ails the west is spot on. Even with those admirable qualities, if you want to make a case for him as a force for good in the world though, it's a tough sell. The guy conducts unprovoked invasions of weak neighboring countries, he orders hits on opponents, he doesn't respect democracy or human rights, he cracks down on disent, spreads propaganda, and the election rigging there makes Stacey Abrams blush. He's a 19th century autocrat in a 21st century world and the good doesn't outweigh the bad. Especially with Ukraine getting invaded by Russia as we are typing, there's not much of a case to be made for Putin. I don't think Putin intends to starve millions of Ukrainians like Stalin did, he probably just wants a pliable neighbor kissing his ass like Belorus, but Ukrainians have long memories of Russian oppression and the right to keep Russia out of their affairs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Clownzo blocked Ukraine aid in 2019. https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/ukraine-aid-trump-call-omb/index.html https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html Gee, no wonder why Putin didn't invade while this commie softie was in the White House. They should have impeached him over it. Wait. Oh yeah, he gave them the aid. We all know you don’t read other peoples links, but you don’t read your own? Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I almost always have your back CDub, but not today. I admire Putin's commitment to anti-wokeness and traditional values and gender roles. Also, his assessment of what ails the west is spot on. Even with those admirable qualities, if you want to make a case for him as a force for good in the world though, it's a tough sell. The guy conducts unprovoked invasions of weak neighboring countries, he orders hits on opponents, he doesn't respect democracy or human rights, he cracks down on disent, spreads propaganda, and the election rigging there makes Stacey Abrams blush. He's a 19th century autocrat in a 21st century world and the good doesn't outweigh the bad. Especially with Ukraine getting invaded by Russia as we are typing, there's not much of a case to be made for Putin. I don't think Putin intends to starve millions of Ukrainians like Stalin did, he probably just wants a pliable neighbor kissing his ass like Belorus, but Ukrainians have long memories of Russian oppression and the right to keep Russia out of their affairs. It's okay to disagree. I would argue the US does the same thing we hide behind freeing a people or giving democracy to those who have none, but we don't do that. Iraq, Afghanistan are still the same. We install "friendly" dictatorships all over the globe thanks to the CIA. NATO has continued to encroach towards Russia going so far as to support a 2014 coup in Ukraine to install a western friendly leader. You know the Biden crime family has close ties to that coup leadership and has benefited from that relationship (10% to the big guy). The same goes for Romney, Warren, and other long-established politicians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They should have impeached him over it. Wait. Oh yeah, he gave them the aid. We all know you don’t read other peoples links, but you don’t read your own? Pathetic. You don't provide links. You just state things as facts and retreat into your safe-place cocoon of ignorance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: You don't provide links. You just state things as facts and retreat into your safe-place cocoon of ignorance. For those in a cocoon of ignorace: edited wrong link. This: PolitiFact | The U.S. aid to Ukraine that Donald Trump froze, in one chart 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: Clownzo blocked Ukraine aid in 2019. https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/ukraine-aid-trump-call-omb/index.html https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html Gee, no wonder why Putin didn't invade while this commie softie was in the White House. wait so your take is that Putin was waiting til they had more funding to attack??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 28, 2022 Is it just me? This chick looks really sexy all geared up? She looks like a chick out of an action movie. Except, this is for real. https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/former-miss-grand-ukraine-joins-fight-against-russian-invasion/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 28, 2022 Our local government was trying to take "Russian" vodka off shelves when they realized there wasn't any. So they took the Russian sounding ones off, who are owned by fake Russian companies. After we the taxpayers already bought all of it sell.. Stupid Libs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted February 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Voltaire said: I almost always have your back CDub, but not today. I admire Putin's commitment to anti-wokeness and traditional values and gender roles. Also, his assessment of what ails the west is spot on. Even with those admirable qualities, if you want to make a case for him as a force for good in the world though, it's a tough sell. The guy conducts unprovoked invasions of weak neighboring countries, he orders hits on opponents, he doesn't respect democracy or human rights, he cracks down on disent, spreads propaganda, and the election rigging there makes Stacey Abrams blush. He's a 19th century autocrat in a 21st century world and the good doesn't outweigh the bad. Especially with Ukraine getting invaded by Russia as we are typing, there's not much of a case to be made for Putin. I don't think Putin intends to starve millions of Ukrainians like Stalin did, he probably just wants a pliable neighbor kissing his ass like Belorus, but Ukrainians have long memories of Russian oppression and the right to keep Russia out of their affairs. This. I get that Ukraine is pretty corrupt themselves. I don’t trust all the so called “News” either. I get all the virtue signaling from the US left. I mean how ironic they are cheering for leaving mostly all the MEN to fight. Or the PEOPLE taking up arms to defend themselves. Then at home there is no such thing as genders and you shouldn’t have the right to own a gun. Its hilarious when you compare/contrast those idiots. Life is rarely black and white, but Putin’s actions trump all that; if we’re ranking the bad guys he’s numero uno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,297 Posted February 28, 2022 Quote Several European nations announce they will not play international football fixtures against Russia Well, that should fix everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Life is rarely black and white, but Putin’s actions trump all that; if we’re ranking the bad guys he’s numero uno. Exactly. If there is any common ground we have as people that believe in basic human rights, we should all stand up to Putin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Well, that should fix everything. Agreed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, vomit said: Exactly. If there is any common ground we have as people that believe in basic human rights, we should all stand up to Putin. Where were you all year and in previous years when the Ukraine government was arming and directing Nazis to shell and snipe ethnic Russians in the Eastern part of the country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted February 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, vomit said: Exactly. If there is any common ground we have as people that believe in basic human rights, we should all stand up to Putin. And China. And a bunch of other places. Or mind our business. But when the overclass keeps taking their money I’m not really going to listen to people like you who provide cover for them. So kindly stfu about good guys and bad guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Life is rarely black and white, but Putin’s actions trump all that; if we’re ranking the bad guys he’s numero uno. #2. And it not even close. Xi Jinping doesn't get a pass from me because he's communist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Well, that should fix everything. Where is the quote that said it would fix everything? Just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Where were you all year and in previous years when the Ukraine government was arming and directing Nazis to shell and snipe ethnic Russians in the Eastern part of the country? Nazis? Holy sh!t you are just gargling Putins balls right now. https://people.com/politics/how-putin-uses-nazi-propaganda-to-defend-ukraine-invasion-russia/ If you're referring to the War in Donbas, it was not "Nazi's sniping Russians", it was Ukes and Russians engaging in terrorism and skirmishes. Two sides of the story, man, don't fall victim to propoganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Where were you all year and in previous years when the Ukraine government was arming and directing Nazis to shell and snipe ethnic Russians in the Eastern part of the country? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, vomit said: Nazis? Holy sh!t you are just gargling Putins balls right now. https://people.com/politics/how-putin-uses-nazi-propaganda-to-defend-ukraine-invasion-russia/ If you're referring to the War in Donbas, it was not "Nazi's sniping Russians", it was Ukes and Russians engaging in terrorism and skirmishes. Two sides of the story, man, don't fall victim to propoganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas Stupid guy posts western propaganda, citing People and Wikipedia, while telling me not to fall for propaganda. Both of you are too stupid to understand how stupid you actually are. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, vomit said: Nazis? Holy sh!t you are just gargling Putins balls right now. https://people.com/politics/how-putin-uses-nazi-propaganda-to-defend-ukraine-invasion-russia/ If you're referring to the War in Donbas, it was not "Nazi's sniping Russians", it was Ukes and Russians engaging in terrorism and skirmishes. Two sides of the story, man, don't fall victim to propoganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas People.com for world news. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, TimmySmith said: People.com for world news. Muh Nazis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Classic response. You're more useless than Newbie and I didn't think such a thing were possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Muh Nazis. Naziiiis!!!! Your boy Timothy Snyder who is the basis for that article sees nazis in the bubbles of his sprite. Nazis are his meal ticket. Don't fall for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,681 Posted February 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Is it just me? This chick look really sexy all geared up? She looks like a chick out of an action movie. Except, this is for real. https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/former-miss-grand-ukraine-joins-fight-against-russian-invasion/ Wood bomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Stupid guy posts western propaganda, citing People and Wikipedia, while telling me not to fall for propaganda. Both of you are too stupid to understand how stupid you actually are. They think there are more Nazis in America than Europe. I was in Amsterdam and saw a group of them giving the Hitler salute years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Muh Nazis. Guardian article below from 2014. You'll love it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis Anybody got a photo of the insignia these guys wear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: People.com for world news. Alright you don't like the people link, take your pick... Just google Ukraine Nazi https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-speech-declare-war https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/02/25/zelensky-family-jewish-holocaust/ https://theconversation.com/putins-claim-to-rid-ukraine-of-nazis-is-especially-absurd-given-its-history-177959 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1010644/why-the-kremlin-keeps-bizarrely-insisting-ukraine-is-run-by-nazis https://news.sky.com/story/do-protests-show-russians-dont-buy-putins-nazi-ukraine-rhetoric-its-too-early-to-tell-12551229 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/24/putin-denazify-ukraine/ https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-jewish-president-volodymyr-zelenskiy-how-could-i-be-a-nazi-vladimir-putin-war/ https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/russias-attack-ukraine-through-lens-history Let me know if you need more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Stupid guy posts western propaganda, citing People and Wikipedia, while telling me not to fall for propaganda. Both of you are too stupid to understand how stupid you actually are. Welp, we're never gonna get anywhere accusing the other side of being hoodwinked by propaganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, vomit said: Welp, we're never gonna get anywhere accusing the other side of being hoodwinked by propaganda. Who's we? You're just the typical American retard that drinks up western propaganda, then takes to message boreds to repeat and amplify it. Oh, here's your favorite, Wiki, on the Azov Battalion. Nice logo they've got there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites