avoiding injuries 1,580 Posted October 30, 2022 If people don’t distance themselves from TQ… that is a warning sign. Stay far away and keep you kids even further away from those people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: I dare you to go one day without posting about me. You can't. I live in your head. Truth hurts, hypocrite. You can stop pointing at people with your stubby little finger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Truth hurts, hypocrite. You can stop pointing at people with your stubby little finger. The truth that I know some gay or trans kids? Yeah, you got me. I guess thats a knock on me? Or the fact that I called someone a fahgit and yet I know gay people? Got me again. Sick burn bro. You really need to evaluate your life. You had 60 posts yesterday talking about kids genitals, accusing me and others of being pedos, accusing mdc of molesting his own kid. What the fock is wrong with you? Who does this? This is why I constantly call you a piece of sh1t, because you engage in this behavior. Is this really what you want to do with your life? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: The truth that I know some gay or trans kids? Yeah, you got me. I guess thats a knock on me? Or the fact that I called someone a fahgit and yet I know gay people? Got me again. Sick burn bro. You really need to evaluate your life. You had 60 posts yesterday talking about kids genitals, accusing me and others of being pedos, accusing mdc of molesting his own kid. What the fock is wrong with you? Who does this? This is why I constantly call you a piece of sh1t, because you engage in this behavior. Is this really what you want to do with your life? I accused MDC of what? Wow. You really are a lowlife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: We're not very far apart on this issue. I don't get drag queens, story hours, I don't think kids should have surgeries, etc. But I'm more practical and rational where as you are emotionally whipped into a frenzy by people that want you to act a certain way. I'll have to read more cautiously and discerningly because you're coming across a lot better/differently than I had originally come to believe. I appreciate that you oppose the surgeries on children and at least have some hesitation about the story hours. I think the gap remains wide and it lies in our perception of what drag queens want by by inviting these young kids to their parties and participating in their drag queen story hour. I presume they're reading about Jazz Jennigs and whatever other filthy LGBTQ children grooming books are popular but even if they're reading Peter Rabbit, Winnie the Pooh, and Dr. Seuss, why the need for the costume? If they're really just kind-hearted feminine men who want to read something non-controversial like Paddington, why can't they wear normal attire? Why the costume? I think the answer lies in the video of the Drag Queens twerking their asses in children's faces to stripper music while getting tipped like strippers in front of the sign that said "It's not Going to Lick Itself." I'm not fooled and I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,408 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: The truth that I know some gay or trans kids? Yeah, you got me. I guess thats a knock on me? Or the fact that I called someone a fahgit and yet I know gay people? Got me again. Sick burn bro. You really need to evaluate your life. You had 60 posts yesterday talking about kids genitals, accusing me and others of being pedos, accusing mdc of molesting his own kid. What the fock is wrong with you? Who does this? This is why I constantly call you a piece of sh1t, because you engage in this behavior. Is this really what you want to do with your life? HT didn’t accuse me of molesting my stepdaughter but he definitely implied it. Typical of the level of class demonstrated by that lying, welching dirtbag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, MDC said: HT didn’t accuse me of molesting my stepdaughter but he definitely implied it. Typical of the level of class demonstrated by that lying, welching dirtbag. Implied, yes, better word. A truly disgusting person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: Implied, yes, better word. A truly disgusting person. You should have minored in English instead. Nothing was implied. The preface of “statistically speaking” is clearly being used to indicate it’s not an accusation, implied or otherwise. Nice try though. HTDS man, it’s real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: Drag queens didn’t arrive on the scene 5 minutes ago, unless you consider the 1930’s 5 minutes ago and that’s really only when they started being intertwined with gays - https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-drag-queens#:~:text=The history of drag queens as an art,their costume dresses would "drag" across the floor. Yes, there are stories of drag queens being arrested for pedo stuff, but I doubt it happens any more than the general population, probably less since I’m sure people are on the lookout for them. Maybe a few cranks. We had Boy George in the 80s. All this trans-activism, bullshIt is only like five years old. That's also how long this spike in gender identity has been happening which also coincides with the spike in gender confused suicide. Speaking of the 80s, were were all the gender confused suicides then? How many children who discovered they were in the wrong bodies were killing themselves through six thousand years of human history up until ~2017? They didn't exist. All this pedo stuff, the tranny stuff, the "gender affirming care" stuff, the LGBTQ pivot to gender confusing and obscuring trans-issues.... mainstreaming this pervert debauchery is the root cause from which all these assorted psychological disorders originated. Many of us happen to remember a time when this was NOT an issue. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: Where we both agree is that it's complex. Where we disagree is what we should do about it. You want to teach kids what you believe. I want to accept kids for what they believe. I was clear about this. I want to teach them normal behavior when they are young, because they are highly impressionable sponges soaking up information. If you don't agree with this, then yeah, we disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: The too are not mutually exclusive. You're obviously not a parent. Chances are good he's never seen a woman naked without giving her money. 41 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I was clear about this. I want to teach them normal behavior when they are young, because they are highly impressionable sponges soaking up information. If you don't agree with this, then yeah, we disagree. So trans and gay people aren't "normal"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Chances are good he's never seen a woman naked without giving her money. So trans and gay people aren't "normal"? Fine, I'll play. No, they are not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Fine, I'll play. No, they are not. Hey you said it....It isn't a "Gotcha" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,149 Posted October 30, 2022 Paul Pelosi gets hammered by his grinder date ...who knew?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Hey you said it....It isn't a "Gotcha" So what's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted October 30, 2022 Mooney: The liberal captain of cover up for the public school teachers to try to take the eyes off of all the sick pedo stuff they do in their schools. What a guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: So what's your point? Your agenda, and bias, is showing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Your agenda, and bias, is showing. The norm is cis hetero. Boys are boys, girls are girls, boys and girls have babies. This is how our species is here able to have this ridiculous conversation. Trans and gay are deviances from the norm. Everything in the alphabet soup is a deviance. Pedo is a deviance. Polygamy is a deviance. Thinking you are a cat is a deviance. A young child is looking for guidance as to how to be develop. If you tell a young boy "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl" you send a confusing message. The ability to "be whatever you want to be" only works with a fundamental understanding of what is normal for society. You don't start filling the memory bank with "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl, you can be whatever you want!" What is a young child supposed to do with this input? Your lack of concern for, or ignorance regarding, the development of young children is showing. Note I've consistently said "young children." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted October 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The norm is cis hetero. Boys are boys, girls are girls, boys and girls have babies. This is how our species is here able to have this ridiculous conversation. Trans and gay are deviances from the norm. Everything in the alphabet soup is a deviance. Pedo is a deviance. Polygamy is a deviance. Thinking you are a cat is a deviance. A young child is looking for guidance as to how to be develop. If you tell a young boy "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl" you send a confusing message. The ability to "be whatever you want to be" only works with a fundamental understanding of what is normal for society. You don't start filling the memory bank with "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl, you can be whatever you want!" What is a young child supposed to do with this input? Your lack of concern for, or ignorance regarding, the development of young children is showing. Note I've consistently said "young children." Once you accept that these clowns are just here for our entertainment, it's much easier to accept the stupid that you see on the screen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted October 30, 2022 The definition of normal, look it up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: The norm is cis hetero. Boys are boys, girls are girls, boys and girls have babies. This is how our species is here able to have this ridiculous conversation. Trans and gay are deviances from the norm. Everything in the alphabet soup is a deviance. Pedo is a deviance. Polygamy is a deviance. Thinking you are a cat is a deviance. A young child is looking for guidance as to how to be develop. If you tell a young boy "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl" you send a confusing message. The ability to "be whatever you want to be" only works with a fundamental understanding of what is normal for society. You don't start filling the memory bank with "maybe you aren't a boy, maybe you are a girl, you can be whatever you want!" What is a young child supposed to do with this input? Your lack of concern for, or ignorance regarding, the development of young children is showing. Note I've consistently said "young children." I've never once spoke about development of young children or anything like that. It's very clear you don't understand "the new normal" and you want people to conform to your narrow worldview. It makes you intolerant in this particular instance. And I know you will say you are not. I know the normal gaggle of folks will say their many words of nonsense. Utilit99 will probably call me a pedophile or a groomer because that is his only move on here. But the simple fact remains when you say "Trans" or "Gay" is not normal it completely rejects their world because it doesn't fit what you want. I'm not debating presenting it to children or any of that stuff. I'm solely responding to your comment of referring to them as not being normal. Try not to obfuscate the point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Reality said: The definition of normal, look it up... Just a reminder- these words were spoken by a dude who doesn't know what the word "headline" means. So- pot meet kettle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: But the simple fact remains when you say "Trans" or "Gay" is not normal it completely rejects their world because it doesn't fit what you want. LMAO...you keep getting better. Nobody is entitled to their "world view" being affirmed.Theres reality and not reality. That's it. Everyone on the planet should have their "world view" rejected if it's not reality. Richard Levine refers to himself as female in his "world view" and it's the "new normal". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: LMAO...you keep getting better. Nobody is entitled to their "world view" being affirmed.Theres reality and not reality. That's it. Everyone on the planet should have their "world view" rejected if it's not reality. Richard Levine refers to himself as female in his "world view" and it's the "new normal". There is one of the gaggle. The world is full of people who are different from you. Deal with it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted October 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Just a reminder- these words were spoken by a dude who doesn't know what the word "headline" means. So- pot meet kettle. Hey dipshlt, learn the definition of normal, you'll look less stupid next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted October 30, 2022 In this thread , we learned that our resident libtards get worked up when you merely point out what they have said. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,987 Posted October 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Fireballer said: LMAO...you keep getting better. Nobody is entitled to their "world view" being affirmed.Theres reality and not reality. That's it. Everyone on the planet should have their "world view" rejected if it's not reality. Richard Levine refers to himself as female in his "world view" and it's the "new normal". I’m thinking the same thing reading Mooney’s responses in this thread. I’d like to believe he’s trolling, but I know he’s not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Fireballer said: LMAO...you keep getting better. Nobody is entitled to their "world view" being affirmed.Theres reality and not reality. That's it. Everyone on the planet should have their "world view" rejected if it's not reality. Richard Levine refers to himself as female in his "world view" and it's the "new normal". So you're saying no person is entitled to their opinion of themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: So you're saying no person is entitled to their opinion of themselves. Of course they don't think so. They aren't upset about "gay" and "trans" people reading books to kids. They are upset that "gay" and "trans" people exist and it scares them because people are different. When people are presented with their own words they get defensive (you notice HT didn't call that out because he thinks he is owning people).And the people agreeing are talking about "reality vs their reality" which is so disingenuous to posit as an argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted October 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: So you're saying no person is entitled to their opinion of themselves. Of course you can have an opinion of yourself, but don't expect others to play your game. Please, be whatever you want to be. I even said that in another thread today. My post was in reference to Mooney saying that @jerryskids was somehow transphobic or harming someone by not affirming their "world view" that's not congruent with reality. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: I've never once spoke about development of young children or anything like that. It's very clear you don't understand "the new normal" and you want people to conform to your narrow worldview. It makes you intolerant in this particular instance. And I know you will say you are not. I know the normal gaggle of folks will say their many words of nonsense. Utilit99 will probably call me a pedophile or a groomer because that is his only move on here. But the simple fact remains when you say "Trans" or "Gay" is not normal it completely rejects their world because it doesn't fit what you want. I'm not debating presenting it to children or any of that stuff. I'm solely responding to your comment of referring to them as not being normal. Try not to obfuscate the point. Well I AM talking specifically about the development of young children, I overtly stated it at the end of the post you quoted, in case anyone was too dense to figure it out from me saying it already in every post. So why are you chirping with your idiotic gotcha attempts and saying, uhhhh, I'm not talking about young children? If English is not your first language, then maybe Google will translate my posts for you. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Well I AM talking specifically about the development of young children, I overtly stated it at the end of the post you quoted, in case anyone was too dense to figure it out from me saying it already in every post. So why are you chirping with your idiotic gotcha attempts and saying, uhhhh, I'm not talking about young children? If English is not your first language, then maybe Google will translate my posts for you. I can read very well thank you and I commented specifically on the part I had an issue with. It boils down to you are an ignorant and intolerant human being who wants to impose "your normal" on others- which is something you seem to be very critical of when others try to do it. It isn't a gotcha attempt to show you your own words in action. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It boils down to you are an ignorant and intolerant human being who wants to impose "your normal" on others And there it is...societal norms are hate. Not very centrist you. Congrats on being progressive pilled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I can read very well thank you and I commented specifically on the part I had an issue with. It boils down to you are an ignorant and intolerant human being who wants to impose "your normal" on others- which is something you seem to be very critical of when others try to do it. It isn't a gotcha attempt to show you your own words in action. Sigh... I took a lot of time to lay out my position and reasoning. You call me names and add nothing otherwise to debate my position and reasoning. How intellectually engaging of you. Surprised you didn't work "racist" in there and really drive it home. You are like the low-IQ people who called Rush a racist for saying the press gave McNabb a pass because he is black. No nuance whatsoever, just pull out the labels. Sad really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: And there it is...societal norms are hate. Not very centrist you. Congrats on being progressive pilled. 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Sigh... I took a lot of time to lay out my position and reasoning. You call me names and add nothing otherwise to debate my position and reasoning. How intellectually engaging of you. Surprised you didn't work "racist" in there and really drive it home. You are like the low-IQ people who called Rush a racist for saying the press gave McNabb a pass because he is black. No nuance whatsoever, just pull out the labels. Sad really. Exactly the responses I expected from you two. The first one just tries to jump in on conversations he is not versed in and got to work in yet again the whole "You aren't a centrist" line of attack. Passe by now. The latter gets pissed because he made the comment that essentially "gay" and "trans" people are not normal which underlines what the issues really are here. And you just keep piling on things I did not dispute because you know you said something stupid so you are trying to punch your way out of the corner you boxed yourself into. Seen this story many times here. Keep trying though. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Exactly the responses I expected from you two. The first one just tries to jump in on conversations he is not versed in and got to work in yet again the whole "You aren't a centrist" line of attack. Passe by now. Mooney, you literally espouse the cornerstone verbiage of the wacko progressives. Have you learned the chant yet...how does it go? "We won't succumb to the (insert offense) of the Western white patriarchy"!!! Obviously, in this case the offense is instiling societal norms. You can't turn back now. Youre the worst type of progressive...the useful idiot that doesnt know it. Just go back into your ivory tower of faux moral superiority and let us adults run things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Exactly the responses I expected from you two. The first one just tries to jump in on conversations he is not versed in and got to work in yet again the whole "You aren't a centrist" line of attack. Passe by now. The latter gets pissed because he made the comment that essentially "gay" and "trans" people are not normal which underlines what the issues really are here. And you just keep piling on things I did not dispute because you know you said something stupid so you are trying to punch your way out of the corner you boxed yourself into. Seen this story many times here. Keep trying though. I have no problem what I said. I'm not saying it again and wasting more time. How about you chime in Sean? What is your thought regarding young children? Is trans something we should target our young children to aspire to? And can childhood experiences influence ones attitudes towards sex or gender? Think hard about this one, I'll let the rope dangle there for most people to see, you though I'm not too sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I can read very well thank you and I commented specifically on the part I had an issue with. It boils down to you are an ignorant and intolerant human being who wants to impose "your normal" on others- which is something you seem to be very critical of when others try to do it. It isn't a gotcha attempt to show you your own words in action. Jerry's position is that young children are particularly impressionable, they can be conditioned to embrace certain things, and it does them no good to confuse them with identity questioning gay/trans issues that have no place in an elementary school or kindergarten. I'd also point out that since the LBGTA agenda is the culture's mainstream agenda embraced by the federal government, media, and education establishment, it is them who want to impose their values on parents and their children not the other way around. The actual people trying to impose their values are the ones that force-feed gay trans issues into TV programming aimed at children and in elementary schools where this stuff should not be addressed. The real bully wanting to inflict "your normal," as always, is your side. Our side just wants to be left alone. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Mooney, you literally espouse the cornerstone verbiage of the wacko progressives. Have you learned the chant yet...how does it go? "We won't succumb to the (insert offense) of the Western white patriarchy"!!! Obviously, in this case the offense is instiling societal norms. You can't turn back now. Youre the worst type of progressive...the useful idiot that doesnt know it. Just go back into your ivory tower of faux moral superiority and let us adults run things. Yawn. A bunch of words you heard from your overlords and you put together into phrases to try to seem smart. Find a new line dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: Jerry's position is that young children are particularly impressionable, they can be conditioned to embrace certain things, and it does them no good to confuse them with identity questioning gay/trans issues that have no place in an elementary school or kindergarten. I would add that the actual people trying to impose their values are the ones that force-feed gay trans issues into TV programming aimed at children and in elementary schools where this stuff should not be addressed. I'd also point out that since the LBGTA agenda is the culture's mainstream agenda embraced by the federal government, media, and education establishment, it is them who want to impose their values on parents and their children not the other way around. The real bully wanting to inflict "your normal," as always, is your side. Our side just wants to be left alone. Thank you. This is too deep for Sean, but I appreciate the effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites