Trump vs DeSantis

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I suspect you might be right but I hope you’re wrong. 
Haley IMO would represent something new for Republicans. A young woman of immigrant stock, competent, with centrist leanings. I would strongly consider voting for her. 

Nobody actually good has a shot. That’s why we end up with candidates like Hillary, Biden and Trump. And they just keep getting worse. In 20 years you’ll be nostalgic for the time when great statesmen like Bush and Gore ran for POTUS. 

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

WTF does ABT mean?  We're not all teenage girls like you!  Help an adult out.

Anybody But Trump

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Just now, MDC said:

Nobody actually good has a shot. That’s why we end up with candidates like Hillary, Biden and Trump. And they just keep getting worse. In 20 years you’ll be nostalgic for the time when great statesmen like Bush and Gore ran for POTUS. 

100%. 

We get what we deserve.  If Kim Kardashian ran for POTUS she would win in a landslide.  That's where were at.  Yeah, that's where were at.

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Trump will not win the General Election !  So if you Repubs want a Repub POTUS, you better get off the Trump train and you better do it NOW !

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I started hating Trump 30 years ago when he was still a Democrat.  You do know that he was a Democrat.  He swuitched parties when it was obvious that Dems would NOT vote for his ass.

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2 minutes ago, kozmiq said:

I started hating Trump 30 years ago when he was still a Democrat.  You do know that he was a Democrat.  He swuitched parties when it was obvious that Dems would NOT vote for his ass.

Which is weird because they ended up voting for Hillary Clinton who is 1000x worse.

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2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Which is weird because they ended up voting for Hillary Clinton who is 1000x worse.

Hillary is Bill and he won twice, blow job or not.  Hillary scares weak men.

Wanna know what Trump said about Hillary years ago .. he said damn she's smart !

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2 minutes ago, kozmiq said:

Hillary is Bill and he won twice, blow job or not.  Hillary scares weak men.

Which is why she is 1000x worse - she has no redeeming qualities of her own.  Her entire life has been spent riding Bill's coattails and using it to enrich herself.

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17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

100%. 

We get what we deserve.  If Kim Kardashian ran for POTUS she would win in a landslide.  That's where were at.  Yeah, that's where were at.

My older daughter would vote for her. I know she would. 

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Which is why she is 1000x worse - she has no redeeming qualities of her own.

Many of Bill's qualities were actually hers.

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

My older daughter would vote for her. I know she would. 

Sorry, Tim.  Sometimes they just go astray.  

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36 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

DeSantis should just stay in Florida because the rest of you don't even matter

You’ve made posts like this several times  You’re a selfish SOB. Share him dammit

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

My older daughter would vote for her. I know she would. 

Not to worry - she'd never get out of the Primaries.

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Just now, kozmiq said:

Many of Bill's qualities were actually hers.

Bill was a vapid, selfish, carpetbagging c#nt?

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42 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't think things will ever improve as long as people keep having a mindset like this.  People are no longer voting for the right candidates, they're voting to spite the other side.

People have the mindset that the politicians created, not the other way around.  Get rid of the problem politicians, get rid of the problem.  If it takes getting the nut jobs to leave, then so be it.

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Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Bill was a vapid, selfish, carpetbagging c#nt?

Two time winning POTUS.  You were just on the wrong side.

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1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

no hes not.  the liberals are bullies.   and you know you bullies are.  they attack nonstop but as soon as one of the targets strike back, the liberals turn into pussiess and claim their target is being mean.  the whole point of that is get you to cower in fear of the bully. 

Oh, I agree.  But that doesn't mean that Trump isn't a d-bag.

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7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Which is why she is 1000x worse - she has no redeeming qualities of her own.  Her entire life has been spent riding Bill's coattails and using it to enrich herself.

Hillary was a good and highly competent Senator. She was an excellent and highly competent Secretary of State. Her politics were centrist and pro-business. She would have made an excellent President. 
I believe she lost, both in 2008 and 2016, because she is an unlikable person, pompous and arrogant, with too much disregard for the personal touch needed in today’s politics. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hillary was a good and highly competent Senator. She was an excellent and highly competent Secretary of State. Her politics were centrist and pro-business. She would have made an excellent President. 
I believe she lost, both in 2008 and 2016, because she is an unlikable person, pompous and arrogant, with too little disregard for the personal touch needed in today’s politics. 

Can't argue / won't argue.

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1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

no hes not.  the liberals are bullies.   and you know you bullies are.  they attack nonstop but as soon as one of the targets strike back, the liberals turn into pussiess and claim their target is being mean.  the whole point of that is get you to cower in fear of the bully. 

Who are you kidding ?  Trump is the biggest bully in the history of EVER EVER EVER !!!

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Hillary’s career follows a pattern of great Americans: Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, William Jennings Bryan, Douglas MacArthur, Adlai Stevenson, Barry Goldwater: all of these were highly competent patriots who achieved greatness but could never gain the love of the majority of the American people because they were simply too arrogant, too unlikable. All of them believed they deserved the Presidency, none were able to achieve it. 

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Boy leftist's are delusional.

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If Gavin Newsom ran with Michele Obama as his VP, he'd win against Trump and maybe against anybody.

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Boy leftist's are delusional.

Hillary was a good SOS. It’s incredible that it can be said with a straight face.  

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hillary was a good SOS. It’s incredible that it can be said with a straight face.  

She was your Senator .. did u vote for her ?    

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14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Boy leftist's are delusional.

How about girl leftists? 

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11 minutes ago, kozmiq said:

If Gavin Newsom ran with Michele Obama as his VP, he'd win against Trump and maybe against anybody.

Michele wouldn’t need Newsom. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Michele wouldn’t need Newsom. 

There's still a lot of men scarred of women .. yes, even on the Left.

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3 minutes ago, kozmiq said:

There's still a lot of men scarred of women .. yes, even on the Left.

I know. But she, or Nikki Haley, would overcome that and win. 
A Michele vs Nikki race would be awesome and America would be the better for it no matter how it ended up. I can only dream. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I know. But she, or Nikki Haley, would overcome that and win. 
A Michele vs Nikki race would be awesome and America would be the better for it no matter how it ended up. I can only dream. 

Boy, those women would take a lot of abuse  .. and that's just from Trump.

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Tim Scott would be another excellent choice.

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On 1/29/2023 at 3:01 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

I easily would take DeSantis over Trump, but I'm hoping Republicans wise up and put a more moderate candidate on the 2024 ballot. 

But even if that happened, Trump likely would run as an independent, split the ticket and hand the election to Biden or whoever.

You just described my nightmare scenario.    

WTF are we doing that this is even a realistic possibility? 

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29 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

You just described my nightmare scenario.    

WTF are we doing that this is even a realistic possibility? 

Trump just wants to be president again, and he views any Republican who runs against him as an enemy and traitor, because he's arrogant and entitled like that. If he doesn't get the nomination, he'll run as an independent just to spite the party, because that's what he does. He's vindictive like that.

H. Ross Perot did the same thing for different reasons. Even though he shared Republican values, he didn't want to see 16 years of Republican presidents, so he came in as an independent knowing he was going to fock Bush out of the presidency. 

There was a point at which Perot looked like he could win the damn thing, which he didn't want, so he ended his campaign, a self-inflicted wound just deep enough to kill his chances but plenty enough to split the Republican vote, if I remember all this correctly.

The 2024 primaries are going to be a nasty, bloody mess for the Republicans, because Trump is going to just unleash attacks, often false ones, on his opponents. The acrimony will push centrists and some moderate Republicans to vote Democrat.

If Trump gave a rat's ass about the Republican Party, he'd throw his support behind the nominee if it's not him. 

But he won't. His ego won't stand for it.

 

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2 hours ago, kozmiq said:

If Gavin Newsom ran with Michele Obama as his VP, he'd win against Trump and maybe against anybody.

It would take a lot more than Michele Obama to get Newsom elected as president.  

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Trumps base is as fervent as any voters in history, but he will never amass more than 43%ish again

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7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Trumps base is as fervent as any voters in history, but he will never amass more than 43%ish again

Trump's base mistakes noise and energy for growing popularity. 

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17 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Trumps base is as fervent as any voters in history, but he will never amass more than 43%ish again

But they still might be enough to get him the nomination. 

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If it is trump, desantis, and a moderate republican then trump and desantis will split the maga crowd possibly allowing a more moderate a chance to win.

In theory this is great, however in practice there will probably not be a moderate candidate. It will probably be a retread like Cruz, etc. That is also in the final 3.

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Not really sure that Nimrata "Nikki' Randawa Haley would make in very far on the national Republican stage.  She already has a couple of strikes against her with those voters.

 

Trump winning kills DeSantis national political career. He needs to strike now.  If wins the R nomination in 24...he'd probably win the General; even though the EC vote breaks horribly for the Right.  

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2 hours ago, crackattack said:

Tim Scott would be another excellent choice.

How to tell me you know nothing about the Republican base without telling me you know nothing about the Republican base.