Just so we are being honest....

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

For now we can agree to disagree, but the conversation should go on. I surmise there is much I can still learn

If you disagree then tell me which liberal proposals have their roots in Communism or totalitarianism. However, I ask that you please limit your examples to proposals made by liberals in actual positions of leadership like Biden or Pelosi prior to this year. Don’t offer me Bernie or Squad proposals which have no chance of ever being enacted. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If she’s spreading nonsense that is the opposite of what the vast majority of medical experts tell us about transitioning, then I would shun her myself. I can’t speak for others but personally I’m not interested in her “testimony.” 

She said it was a mistake to transition because she was talked into "top surgery" at 13 years old.  When she hit her late teens it hit home that she'd never be able to breastfeed and that sent her into a depression.  

There is no such thing as a medical expert when it comes to children and sex changes.  There isn't a consensus and way too many unknowns this early into a movement like that.  

Your dismissal of her "testimony" without even hearing it is the EXACT thing she was highlighting with the tolerant left. 

[jerryskids 6,799]

29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you disagree then tell me which liberal proposals have their roots in Communism or totalitarianism. However, I ask that you please limit your examples to proposals made by liberals in actual positions of leadership like Biden or Pelosi prior to this year. Don’t offer me Bernie or Squad proposals which have no chance of ever being enacted. 

Biden:  executive order attempt to forgive student debt.  What do I win?

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 hours ago, TK0001 said:

Are you intentionally blurring the line between leftist and liberal?

Conveniently placing the entire group in the same bucket o' crazy works so well when applied to Conservatives. I can't imagine how anyone on the left would take offense to this.

Sup TK?  I'm glad you made this distinction because I very much try to make it when I post, referring to leftists when describing the crazies.  Unfortunately leftism is more than just a fringe thing these days, and it seems that true liberals (like Rogan, Taibbi, Weiss) are more than a little upset about it.  Perhaps you are in this group?

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I consider myself a liberal and I am not for these things. I don’t know any liberals who are for these things. I’ve never heard any liberal politician or personality ever say they are for any of these things. 
 

If you disagree with liberalism so much, how about you criticize what we’re actually about, based on our statements and actions, rather than create a fantasy to demonize against? 

It's typical MAGA mischaracterization and fearmongering. 

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Biden:  executive order attempt to forgive student debt.  What do I win?

You win nothing. That’s communism? Both Republicans and Democrats forgive debt all the time. 

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Sup TK?  I'm glad you made this distinction because I very much try to make it when I post, referring to leftists when describing the crazies.  Unfortunately leftism is more than just a fringe thing these days, and it seems that true liberals (like Rogan, Taibbi, Weiss) are more than a little upset about it.  Perhaps you are in this group?

 

I wouldn’t categorize any of the 3 you mention as liberal. 

[RLLD 4,230]

58 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of the three items you mention here, the only one that is the real threat to modern day America is nationalism, and that’s not coming from Democrats. 

I do not see nationalism as even in the top 15 threats to this nation, despite the attempted rhetoric to establish it as one. 

[RLLD 4,230]

57 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I still can't believe the democrats got rid of federal protection of abortion.  Facists.

Hmmm, that is an interesting point.  You would support the misuse of law to harm others. That does sound familiar....

[RLLD 4,230]

57 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you disagree then tell me which liberal proposals have their roots in Communism or totalitarianism. However, I ask that you please limit your examples to proposals made by liberals in actual positions of leadership like Biden or Pelosi prior to this year. Don’t offer me Bernie or Squad proposals which have no chance of ever being enacted. 

Forgive me for being lazy, but I am going to redirect you to Here

[jerryskids 6,799]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You win nothing. That’s communism? Both Republicans and Democrats forgive debt all the time. 

You said communism or totalitarianism.  It was an attempt to overreach the powers of the executive branch.  There are lots of other examples of this, like weaponizing OSHA for vaccine mandates, but I figured I'd start with an easy one.  Color me shocked that you disagree.

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I wouldn’t categorize any of the 3 you mention as liberal. 

Funny, because they would, and they would be correct by the definition of "liberal" until perhaps recently.  Are you advocating that liberals are continuously moving towards leftism?  I think our new poster @TK0001 might disagree.

[squistion 2,202]

3 hours ago, jonmx said:

Today's Liberal:

1.  Fully supports a fascist alliance between the federal government and huge monopolistic corporations to suppress the 'spread of misinformation', previously known as free speech and a free press.

2.  Fully supports a hierarchy structure of citizens where rights, benefits and legal protection are purely based on race and gender identity.  

3.  Fully supports the state being the primary authority on the raising of your children.  

4.  Fully supported state run universities in in their purge of all dissenting non-leftist ideologies from its ranks and supports the current effort to do the same within federal government bureaucracies.  

 

As a self-described liberal or progressive, I don't support any of that, nor do I know any liberals that do.  

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Forgive me for being lazy, but I am going to redirect you to Here

Wow, second post in that thread from mid 2021:

NV knew things.  Also I miss him.   

[RLLD 4,230]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Wow, second post in that thread from mid 2021:

NV knew things.  Also I miss him.   

There is a predictability to this.  This behavior of modern day liberals is not new, there is a template for what they are doing. Mao in particular did the same stuff, said the same stuff.....

[GutterBoy 2,899]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmm, that is an interesting point.  You would support the misuse of law to harm others. That does sound familiar....

Sure, you do the same thing.

[MDC 7,428]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

There is a predictability to this.  This behavior of modern day liberals is not new, there is a template for what they are doing. Mao in particular did the same stuff, said the same stuff.....

Don’t forget Hitler!

[GobbleDog 996]

Ever go to a party and meet that guy who takes politics way too personally? 

"The liberals are ruining this country! It's us against them! There's gonna be a civil war!"

"Great, so do ya like the beer?" 

 

We seem to have a lot of those guys around here.  They aren't converting anyone, just annoying everyone.

[MDC 7,428]

1 minute ago, GobbleDog said:

Ever go to a party and meet that guy who takes politics way too personally? 

"The liberals are ruining this country! It's us against them! There's gonna be a civil war!"

"Great, so do ya like the beer?" 

 

We seem to have a lot of those guys around here.  They aren't converting anyone, just annoying everyone.

At least they have each other, at the GC. 

[jonmx 2,429]

25 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

As a self-described liberal or progressive, I don't support any of that, nor do I know any liberals that do.  

But you do.  Everytime you pull the lever for D, because that is where they have taken us and will take us. 

[squistion 2,202]

20 minutes ago, jonmx said:

But you do.  Everytime you pull the lever for D, because that is where they have taken us and will take us. 

Nope they haven't taken us there, nor will they ever despite your delusions.

It is rants like this that make it hard for anyone to really take anything you have to say seriously (or perhaps that is the point). 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Today’s American Left is a huge threat to the core principles this country was built on, mainly individualism and freedom.  They have already conquered the cities, and in the process turned them into sh!t-holes.  They will never reign in freedom loving people in rural areas.  A lot of these people are deeply committed to conservative principles, and they are armed to the teeth.  I think what will happen in the next 10 to 20 years is that conservatives will work to build a firewall around their communities.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

I live in a rural conservative community in a liberal state, and in the past there have been liberals that have managed to win elections on the Town Council and Board of Ed.  Nobody paid much attention to it.  Then, one of these libtards decided to kneel during the Pledge of Allegiance.  It woke up a lot of Conservatives in town, and since then I don’t think one single Democrat has been elected.  And there isn’t any tolerance for liberal nonsense, either.  In the past a lot of conservatives would be amused and dismiss it as a nuisance and interesting sideshow.  Not so anymore.

[jerryskids 6,799]

45 minutes ago, MDC said:

Don’t forget Hitler!

Quote

The Four Olds or the Four Old Things (simplified Chinese: 四旧; traditional Chinese: 四舊; pinyin: sì jiù) was a term used during the Cultural Revolution by the student-led Red Guards in the People's Republic of China in reference to the pre-communist elements of Chinese culture they attempted to destroy. The Four Olds were: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Olds

I imagine you'll say this isn't being attempted by Leftists.   

[TK0001 99]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Sup TK?  I'm glad you made this distinction because I very much try to make it when I post, referring to leftists when describing the crazies.  Unfortunately leftism is more than just a fringe thing these days, and it seems that true liberals (like Rogan, Taibbi, Weiss) are more than a little upset about it.  Perhaps you are in this group?

 

I don't really consider myself in any group. I think most people in this country straddle the line between left and right, extending into one side or another to varying degrees on certain subjects, but largely staying in the middle.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

47 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Ever go to a party and meet that guy who takes politics way too personally? 

"The liberals are ruining this country! It's us against them! There's gonna be a civil war!"

"Great, so do ya like the beer?" 

 

We seem to have a lot of those guys around here.  They aren't converting anyone, just annoying everyone.

Ding! They represent the radical end of the conservative spectrum and generate a lot of noise and hate over what represents the small, radical end of the left spectrum. 

They're like a bunch of women who work together daily and wind up having the same menstrual cycles.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I don't really consider myself in any group. I think most people in this country straddle the line between left and right, extending into one side or another to varying degrees on certain subjects, but largely staying in the middle.

I have placed you in a group of dead sexiness.

[TK0001 99]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Funny, because they would, and they would be correct by the definition of "liberal" until perhaps recently.  Are you advocating that liberals are continuously moving towards leftism?  I think our new poster @TK0001 might disagree.

You do know who I am, right?

I would definitely categorize Rogan as left-leaning. I believe that's how he categorizes himself, too. I don't know enough about Taibbi or Weiss to form an opinion.

In fact, Rogan had a live broadcast during the 2016 election in which he and all his buddies were sh!tting all over Trump, and they were shocked he started winning. They predicted how focked up the country would become because of Trump. Hardly the rantings of a conservative.

[TK0001 99]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I have placed you in a group of dead sexiness.

I would place you on a hill of red ants and then set fire to the hill.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, TK0001 said:

I would place you on a hill of red ants and then set fire to the hill.

I'd like that.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I would place you on a hill of red ants and then set fire to the hill.

DADBLAMIT! What is this here pain on my buttsor!

[RLLD 4,230]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Sure, you do the same thing.

I am rubber and you are glue

[TK0001 99]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

DADBLAMIT! What is this here pain on my buttsor!

MAMA! GIT THE DAT-BLAMMED FIRE HOSE I FELL ON TOPPA BY-GUM FAHR ANT HILL ON FAHR AGIN!

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am rubber and you are glue

No, we're both glue.  Try and keep up.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

No, we're both glue.  Try and keep up.

Sticks and stones...

[jonmx 2,429]

3 hours ago, RLLD said:

We obviously see the world differently, and that is of course just fine.  Everyone has a voice, an opinion, and some value to contribute in terms of their perspective.

On the evidence, reason and compromise are not welcome within the Democrat party. We saw this with Manchin, Gabbert, Sinema and others.  Democrats are intolerant, in part because they have boxed themselves into that status. Their move to garner votes through fear by assigning the notion of "evil" to the Republicans effectively removes their ability to compromise and fed the rise of the "squad".

It is common for Democrats to impetuously grab at the immediate gratification and ignore the wider consequences, as they have demonstrated over and over....and not just because the areas they have controlled for decades have become hell holes. it is the other actions that create that circumstance more so. 

1.  Fully supports a fascist alliance between the federal government and huge monopolistic corporations to suppress the 'spread of misinformation', previously known as free speech and a free press.
 - proven through their inadvisable collaborations with Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and media outlets. 

 

"Inadvisable collaborations"????  GTFO.   It was federal agents using their influence over the big tech monopolies which altered the outcome of the 2020 election.   It is our own government who overturned the election.  The same jackarses who are throwing grandma in jail for walking inside the Capitol.   

And the sad part is, the Twitter files barely scratch the surface of the online censorship directed by government.  I get censored on YouTube constantly by government agents who troll comments and get comments hidden that oppose the official story, especially on "conspiracy theory" topics.   I am constantly being asked if I deleted a comment, but no it just magically disappears where I can still see it but no one else can.   The fact that our government has the resources to bother watching and censoring me is outrageous.  

I know Tim don't give one rats ass about government censorship.  He hate alternative media with a passion and you support the idea of like-minded elitist worshipers like yourself being the gatekeepers of information.  We are well beyond '1984' level of fascism.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Sticks and stones...

You're such an annoying douche bag

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

6 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

I would place you on a hill of red ants and then set fire to the hill.

When I was around 16, I was out joyriding in my mom's white Cadillac in Galveston. 

It had rained a bunch, and I was on some rutted caliche road that had some water on it. Water was splashing onto the car, and I was concerned it was going to get pretty dirty, so I moved a little to the right, but it turned out to be a water-filled ditch, and the back end of the car got stuck in it.

I was barefoot and needed to walk somewhere to use a phone and call a wrecker.

During heavy rains, fire ants come out of their mounds and form floating mats for survival.

I accidentally stepped into one of those mats and wound up with 50-60 fire-ant bites on each leg. I'm lucky I didn't have some prophylactic reaction.

My parents were pretty  about the car, which wasn't damaged, but the fire-ant attack on my legs somewhat lessened their ire.

It didn't help that later in the day I launched a paper airplane from the beach-house loft. It floated around the room and then struck my mom in the forehead, which made her   . 

That day at the beach wasn't anything but a day at the beach.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

You're such an annoying douche bag

Projection.....well done....

[GutterBoy 2,899]

8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I'm lucky I didn't have some prophylactic reaction.

Like growing condoms on your feet?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Like growing condoms on your feet?

I intentionally used that word instead of anaphylactic, silly goose.