Georgia grand jury recommends multiple indictments in Trump election probe

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s very frustrating that so many Americans still believe this. There’s absolutely no evidence of it. Every accusation of fraud has been debunked- every one. And yet you guys still believe it. 

No evidence? Literally HUNDREDS of Trumoers signed affidavits saying they saw things they couldn’t prove! And as we know the jails are full of people who made frivolous claims.

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There's not a bigger idiot on the planet than that stupid thing right now.

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1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

You know that argument goes both ways, right?

Not when they unconstitutionally implemented mail in balloting, ballot harvesting and no signature verifications while simultaneously pouring a billion dollars of financing into swing state urban areas. Go suck it. 

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Zuckerberg sure put his 400 million dollars in the right places. I remember when liberals were against money in politics. 

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4 hours ago, Strike said:

This is untrue, but no one here is going to try to change your mind.  You've been presented proof numerous times over the years and just dismiss it.   But that's ok.  You're entitled to your opinion.  It would just be nice if, at some point, you allowed other people that right as well.

How do you explain Trump-appointed judges, right up to the Supreme Court, kicking his frivolous fraud lawsuits to the curb?

MAGAtards can't seem to get that through their thick skulls.

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9 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

How do you explain Trump-appointed judges, right up to the Supreme Court, kicking his frivolous fraud lawsuits to the curb?

MAGAtards can't seem to get that through their thick skulls.

You have a weird belief that if somebody appoints a judge, that judge becomes that person's lackey for life.  I presume you would consider Roberts a conservative lapdog?  Souter? Kennedy?

What a sad pretend moderate conservative world you live in.   

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You have a weird belief that if somebody appoints a judge, that judge becomes that person's lackey for life.  I presume you would consider Roberts a conservative lapdog?  Souter? Kennedy?

What a sad pretend moderate conservative world you live in.   

They think Christopher Wray was looking out for Trump. Miley too. 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

You have a weird belief that if somebody appoints a judge, that judge becomes that person's lackey for life.  I presume you would consider Roberts a conservative lapdog?  Souter? Kennedy?

What a sad pretend moderate conservative world you live in.   

The point being that despite zero evidence of widespread voter fraud on a scale that would have changed the election outcome and every one of Trump's frivolous fraud cases getting kicked out, MAGAs still claim the election was stolen. 

Do you seriously think Roe V. Wade still would have been overturned if the Supreme Court was decisively liberal?

Come on, bro.

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

The point being that despite zero evidence of widespread voter fraud on a scale that would have changed the outcome and every one of Trump's frivolous fraud cases getting kicked out, MAGAs still claim the election was stolen. 

Do you seriously think Roe V. Wade wouldn't have been overturned had the Supreme Court not been decisively conservative?

Come on, bro.

RBG thought it was bad law and had a good chance of being overturned if it got to the SC. Most legal scholars did as well. The gals on the view didn’t tell you that? 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

RBG thought it was bad law and had a good chance of being overturned if it got to the SC. Most legal scholars did as well. The gals on the view didn’t tell you that? 

So the five justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade weren't Republican-appointed conservatives.

Gotcha!

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

So the five justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade weren't Republican-appointed conservatives.

Gotcha!

So RBG didn’t say that? 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So RBG didn’t say that? 

I very strongly doubt RBG would have voted to overturn it. 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So RBG didn’t say that? 

Oh, so you're saying judges, regardless of who appointed them, make fair and impartial decisions, which means they made fair and impartial decisions in tossing every last one of the Trump election-fraud lawsuits, meaning election deniers can suck it and shut the fock up.

Thanks!

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I very strongly doubt RBG would have voted to overturn it. 

This is classic HT trying to derail the point, only to go on and prove my point.

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3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The point being that despite zero evidence of widespread voter fraud on a scale that would have changed the election outcome and every one of Trump's frivolous fraud cases getting kicked out, MAGAs still claim the election was stolen. 

Do you seriously think Roe V. Wade still would have been overturned if the Supreme Court was decisively liberal?

Come on, bro.

This is a MSNBC and CNN lie. Many of the unconstitutional election rules changes during the 2020 election like ballot harvesting and ballot postmarking have been overturned by either the appeals or state supreme courts as well as the us sc. 
 

Here is just one of many -

U.S. Supreme Court reverses Pennsylvania mail voting law decision

“The justices vacated a decision in May by the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that had said mail-in ballots without a required date on the return envelope had to be counted in a 2021 Pennsylvania judge race.”

“The lower court had said state election law’s requirement of a date next to the voter’s signature on the outside of return envelopes was “immaterial.” That lower court had said it found no reason to refuse counting the ballots that were set aside in the Nov. 2, 2021, election for common pleas judge in Lehigh County.”

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Here is what RBG actually said about Roe: 

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

Her criticism, like so much of her thoughts, was nuanced. She believed that it stopped momentum of women’s rights and that it gave doctors more freedom, not women. I’m not sure I agree with her on either count. But anyone who tells you that she opposed a woman’s right to an abortion and would have ever voted to overturn Roe is full of sh!t. 

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

This is classic HT trying to derail the point, only to go on and prove my point.

No, the point is you act like a bad law getting overturned is purely politics. There are many laws that judges on both sides have disagreed with politically that have not been overturned. You just got caught with your thumb up your ass again. You live on what would happen in your mind instead of knowing what has happened.  Simple  Jack 

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2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

This is a MSNBC and CNN lie. Many of the unconstitutional election rules changes during the 2020 election like ballot harvesting and ballot postmarking have been overturned by either the appeals or state supreme courts as well as the us sc. 
 

Here is just one of many -

U.S. Supreme Court reverses Pennsylvania mail voting law decision

“The justices vacated a decision in May by the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that had said mail-in ballots without a required date on the return envelope had to be counted in a 2021 Pennsylvania judge race.”

“The lower court had said state election law’s requirement of a date next to the voter’s signature on the outside of return envelopes was “immaterial.” That lower court had said it found no reason to refuse counting the ballots that were set aside in the Nov. 2, 2021, election for common pleas judge in Lehigh County.”

What does that have to do with the election being stolen? For an election to be stolen votes have to falsified, not “harvested”. Where are the falsified votes? 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is what RBG actually said about Roe: 

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

Her criticism, like so much of her thoughts, was nuanced. She believed that it stopped momentum of women’s rights and that it gave doctors more freedom, not women. I’m not sure I agree with her on either count. But anyone who tells you that she opposed a woman’s right to an abortion and would have ever voted to overturn Roe is full of sh!t. 

No one said that she would, strawman. You win many of the arguments you have with yourself. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

What does that have to do with the election being stolen? For an election to be stolen votes have to falsified, not “harvested”. Where are the falsified votes? 

12 million harvested ballots through mass mailings in urban county swing states with no signature verification and no post mark dates. That doesn’t sound like the most secure election ever. 

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, the point is you act like a bad law getting overturned is purely politics. There are many laws that judges on both sides have disagreed with politically that have not been overturned. You just got caught with your thumb up your ass again. You live on what would happen in your mind instead of knowing what has happened.  Simple  Jack 

OK, so one judge after another threw out Trump's bad fraud lawsuits.

Let's move on.

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MAGA: The election was stolen! 

RUSTY: Every judge, including Trump-appointed judges right up through the Supreme Court, tossed out his election-fraud lawsuits.

JERRYSKIDS: Judges are fair and impartial and don't vote based on their conservative or liberal beliefs!

RUSTY: They voted along those lines to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

MAGA: No! Judges are fair and impartial and don't vote based on their conservative or liberal beliefs! They know bad things when they see them!

RUSTY: Oh, OK, so all those judges rightly threw out the election-fraud lawsuits.

MAGA: The election was stolen! 

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22 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You see that as him trying to conspire to get votes illegally, because that's what you want it to be.  I see it as him talking as an in-general statement.  You know, like when you're watching a game and say "Common guys, I need you to score a TD".

I try hard not to say things like 'that's the stupidiest thing I've ever heard'.

I try very hard not to say 'that's the stupidiest thing I've ever heard'.

And so I won't say 'THAT'S THE STUPIEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD' !

But, I am tempted to say 'THAT is the stupidest thing I've ever heard' !

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12 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

12 million harvested ballots through mass mailings in urban county swing states with no signature verification and no post mark dates. That doesn’t sound like the most secure election ever. 

And yet every expert who studied it says it was the most secure ever. But if you have evidence of falsified votes, where is it? 

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22 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You see that as him trying to conspire to get votes illegally, because that's what you want it to be.  I see it as him talking as an in-general statement.  You know, like when you're watching a game and say "Common guys, I need you to score a TD".

No, it's more like a Coach in the 4th quarter of losing a game 21 - 0 telling the referee and scorekeeper to go back and find 24 points for his team in the 1st quarter.

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And yet every expert who studied it says it was the most secure ever. But if you have evidence of falsified votes, where is it? 

They saw some tiktok video on Infowars showing election workers carrying around boxes, with Alex Jones jumping up and down like a deranged rock ape and screaming that these were make-believe votes, even though it was just election workers carrying around boxes of legitimate votes.

They can't legitimize judges throughout the land tossing more than 60 election-fraud lawsuits, whose taxpayer price tag was around $500 million.

 

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1 minute ago, kozmiq said:

No, it's more like a Coach in the 4th quarter of losing a game 21 - 0 telling the referee and scorekeeper to go back and find 24 points for his team in the 1st quarter.

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41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

RBG thought it was bad law and had a good chance of being overturned if it got to the SC. Most legal scholars did as well. The gals on the view didn’t tell you that? 

She did not think it was a bad law, she did say she wasn't of a fan of it's reasoning.  Big difference.

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“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

“Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

12 million harvested ballots through mass mailings in urban county swing states with no signature verification and no post mark dates. That doesn’t sound like the most secure election ever. 

This occurred where?

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22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And yet every expert who studied it says it was the most secure ever. But if you have evidence of falsified votes, where is it? 

The lack of chain of custody would contradict whatever “the experts” claim. 

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12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

This occurred where?

All the swing states.

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10 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

This occurred where?

In The Upside Down, where the Deep State and its cabal of Satanists traffic children so The Mind Flayer can tickle their pickles.

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Just now, Dizkneelande said:

All the swing states.

How come none of the judges in those states accepted Trump's fraud lawsuits?

Were they seduced by  ... The Deep State?

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2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

All the swing states.

 

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31 states had laws requiring signature matching, including some key battlegrounds where Trump and his allies disputed the results. The 31 are Arizona, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington and West Virginia.

Are you referring to some other swing states?

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A lot of election laws were changed to allow people to safely vote during a pandemic. Gotta hand it to those Democrats to be able to fake a pandemic then make laws where only one party could take advantage of them by cheating.

 

Delusional. What if the tables were turned and Biden pulled the same garbage Trump has? The right wingers would sure sing a different tune then.

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58 minutes ago, kozmiq said:

No, it's more like a Coach in the 4th quarter of losing a game 21 - 0 telling the referee and scorekeeper to go back and find 24 points for his team in the 1st quarter.

...and you had the nerve to post this before typing that?

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46 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

Are you referring to some other swing states?

Let’s ignore my other complaints and just focus on signatures. Who’s verifying the signatures when the harvester can forge them like in this situation? 
 

https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/taking-action/ag-shapiro-announces-charges-against-philadelphia-man-for-orchestrating-the-forgery-of-signatures-on-election-nomination-petitions-in-municipal-primary-races/

“An investigation by the Office of Attorney General found that in 2019, multiple candidates hired Crews to help them obtain the requisite amount of signatures needed for their nomination petitions for the Democratic primary races. Crews recruited individuals to help with the petition work, bringing them to a hotel room and asking them to write names, addresses, and forged signatures on multiple petitions. Crews then had these petitions notarized and filed with the Pennsylvania Department of State on behalf of his clients.”

Or this?

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-crime-arizona-presidential-election-2020-d465a854ddec56ea48f9a5a291c5adc3

“Authorities say Fuentes, a former San Luis mayor, ran a sophisticated operation using her status in Democratic politics in the Arizona border city to persuade voters to let her gather and, in some cases, fill out their ballots.”

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59 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

Are you referring to some other swing states?

If Arizonas signature verification process was secure, why did a bipartisan group of lawmakers just pass specific minimum requirements for signature verification?

https://www.azleg.gov/press/house/56LEG/1R/230223KOLODINHB2322.pdf

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1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

If Arizonas signature verification process was secure, why did a bipartisan group of lawmakers just pass specific minimum requirements for signature verification?

https://www.azleg.gov/press/house/56LEG/1R/230223KOLODINHB2322.pdf

You said they didn't exist "in all the swing states"---so far you have provided ZERE evidence to back up your claim.