jonmx 2,429 Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: “Going through a door”. Lol. JUDGE: "too dangerous to release!". This guy is a menace to society. Going through doors, following police, saying prayers. Where does the havoc and destruction stop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Going thru a door someone else knocked down clearly a death sentence If you watched the video, the point was that he claimed police waved him into the building. Which the video shows is a lie. The clip was before his guilty plea, which was to a single felony count: obstruction of an official proceeding. The BS with him in the Senate chamber using a bullhorn is all they need for that, and his lawyer took 3 years instead of going to trial and risking 20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: If you watched the video, the point was that he claimed police waved him into the building. Which the video shows is a lie. The clip was before his guilty plea, which was to a single felony count: obstruction of an official proceeding. The BS with him in the Senate chamber using a bullhorn is all they need for that, and his lawyer took 3 years instead of going to trial and risking 20. Sounds like justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, jonmx said: JUDGE: "too dangerous to release!". This guy is a menace to society. Going through doors, following police, saying prayers. Where does the havoc and destruction stop? Before, weren’t you claiming he has mental illness, so they should be nice to him? Wouldn’t that mental illness make it dangerous to release him? That flagpole had a spear on the end of it too, if anybody noticed. I still don’t get why so many people are defending these thugs. Only thing I can figure: you wish you had been there that day but you were too much of a puss to get out of your recliner and take on the cops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, jonmx said: JUDGE: "too dangerous to release!". This guy is a menace to society. Going through doors, following police, saying prayers. Where does the havoc and destruction stop? What about him "influencing" the wearing of bison headdresses? That species has not been hounded close enough to extinction already? Clearly a monster. Clearly not a Vegan, the approved pansy eating regimine of the woke. Maybe if he wore a broccoli, kale, and spirolina headdress he could have recieved some leniency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said: What about him "influencing" the wearing of bison headdresses? That species has not been hounded close enough to extinction already? Clearly a monster. Clearly not a Vegan, the approved pansy eating regimine of the woke. Maybe if he wore a broccoli, kale, and spirolina headdress he could have recieved some leniency. F around, find out. He will be finding out what happens in federal prison for the next few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, dogcows said: If you watched the video, the point was that he claimed police waved him into the building. Which the video shows is a lie. The clip was before his guilty plea, which was to a single felony count: obstruction of an official proceeding. The BS with him in the Senate chamber using a bullhorn is all they need for that, and his lawyer took 3 years instead of going to trial and risking 20. It most certainly does not. While it fails to corroborate it does not contradict. The Cop waiving them in could simply be out of frame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: F around, find out. He will be finding out what happens in federal prison for the next few years. I may f around, but not like these clowns did. I believe in the calm, cooperative, and voluntary transfer of power. I believe if there were a legitimate grip (Which I do see sufficient evidence of) the grip should have been handled by the courts. Finally, I would never allow myself to be compromised for the likes of Donald Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: It most certainly does not. While it fails to corroborate it does not contradict. The Cop waiving them in could simply be out of frame. You can watch a fuller clip, in which you see no police anywhere nearby that could have been doing anything such as waving people in. https://www.businessinsider.com/court-releases-two-videos-debunking-qanon-shamans-60-minutes-claim-2021-3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, dogcows said: You can watch a fuller clip, in which you see no police anywhere nearby that could have been doing anything such as waving people in. https://www.businessinsider.com/court-releases-two-videos-debunking-qanon-shamans-60-minutes-claim-2021-3 And that, then would be a better argument. Not definitive, but better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted March 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, dogcows said: If you watched the video, the point was that he claimed police waved him into the building. Which the video shows is a lie. The clip was before his guilty plea, which was to a single felony count: obstruction of an official proceeding. The BS with him in the Senate chamber using a bullhorn is all they need for that, and his lawyer took 3 years instead of going to trial and risking 20. Yep the world isn’t safe with that guy on the streets. Meanwhile actual criminals out on no bail committing more crimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, dogcows said: You can watch a fuller clip, in which you see no police anywhere nearby that could have been doing anything such as waving people in. https://www.businessinsider.com/court-releases-two-videos-debunking-qanon-shamans-60-minutes-claim-2021-3 I must say those videos do not change matters for me notr do the put the lie to the shaman's claim. What they show is he is capable of getting to the top of scaffolding and he can walk through a door he, himself, did not open. The tape certainly does not capture him being waived in, but neither does it disprove that he was. Threr simply is not a relevant view from that video, or those videos. All they establish is he was on scene, and then in the Capitol. Again, this is not to try to mitigate what he did. I am simply interested in the form, style, and substance of the argument you are relying upon, not the ultimate conclusions you or the Judge made. Myself, I have conclusions and suppositions, but were I the Judge in this matter I might have confined myself to the evidence on the record, in court, not on supposition and really, poor logic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted March 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, dogcows said: You can watch a fuller clip, in which you see no police anywhere nearby that could have been doing anything such as waving people in. Or preventing people from entering? After the events of Jan. 6, Pelosi called for then-Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund to step down. Sund's resignation became effective on Jan. 16. In February, acting Chief Yogananda Pittman announced an internal investigation of 35 members of the Capitol Police. Two officers were suspended the week after the riot for taking selfies with insurrectionists and wearing pro-Trump paraphernalia, USA TODAY reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 11, 2023 I am waiting the Woke trotting out their LGBTQandrogynous Shaman. I suspect it will be Sam Brinton in a particularly jaunty headdress, like something a Matron would wear at the kentucky Derby. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, dogcows said: Before, weren’t you claiming he has mental illness, so they should be nice to him? Wouldn’t that mental illness make it dangerous to release him? That flagpole had a spear on the end of it too, if anybody noticed. I still don’t get why so many people are defending these thugs. Only thing I can figure: you wish you had been there that day but you were too much of a puss to get out of your recliner and take on the cops. This post makes so little sense. Mental illness is not a reason to keep people in prison. He got admonished by the judge for lying about police letting him in doors, but that is exactly what happened. The reason people defend these people is that we believe in a justice system where all people are treated equally and fairly under the law. I understand you don't get it, because you are a fascist who believes all non-fascist should be rounded up and shot for having different beliefs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, jonmx said: This post makes so little sense. Mental illness is not a reason to keep people in prison. He got admonished by the judge for lying about police letting him in doors, but that is exactly what happened. The reason people defend these people is that we believe in a justice system where all people are treated equally and fairly under the law. I understand you don't get it, because you are a fascist who believes all non-fascist should be rounded up and shot for having different beliefs. He pled guilty. His choice. He could have gone to trial and let a jury decide. He admits his guilt. Why are you all defending him when he admits he committed a felony? Case closed. Unlike all his “supporters,” he owned what he did and is serving the time for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, dogcows said: He pled guilty. His choice. He could have gone to trial and let a jury decide. He admits his guilt. Why are you all defending him when he admits he committed a felony? Case closed. Unlike all his “supporters,” he owned what he did and is serving the time for it. Lol...the feds had a gun to his head. He either pleads guilty or the feds throw the book at him with trumped up charges which could lead to 25 plus years in prison. The feds were going to throw every resource available at him and had control over all the evidence. He entered the building so there was a level of 'guilt' there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: Thanks for showing the reverse angle. He watched rioters break the windows, then smash the door open from the inside and then went in. Why didn’t Tucker show this? Gee, I wonder. Next week Tucker will show video of Chansley helping an old lady across the street in another attempt to show what a nice guy he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,023 Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: Thanks for showing the reverse angle. He watched rioters break the windows, then smash the door open from the inside and then went in. Why didn’t Tucker show this? Gee, I wonder. Next week Tucker will show video of Chansley helping an old lady across the street in another attempt to show what a nice guy he is. OMG!!! A broken window then a bunch of camera phones being wielded!!! Let's compare with just a glimpse into the liberal 2020 riots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: OMG!!! A broken window then a bunch of camera phones being wielded!!! Let's compare with just a glimpse into the liberal 2020 riots. You know if you break those camera phone they produce sharp glass which could be used as a weapon. See they were armed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted March 12, 2023 14 hours ago, squistion said: There we go. Video that actually enlightens the situation unlike the completely inconclusive video previously posted. The narrative above the video may make an attribution to the shaman which is a bit presumptuous, but this is a good portion of video with a perspective on the moment letting us view the cops at the key moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,023 Posted March 12, 2023 14 hours ago, jonmx said: You know if you break those camera phone they produce sharp glass which could be used as a weapon. See they were armed! Ouch. You could get a good scratch on your skin with that. No bueno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted March 12, 2023 15 hours ago, squistion said: For those who want to know what was going on, and under what circumstances the Shaman entered the Capitol, this video is conclusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 70 Posted March 12, 2023 16 hours ago, League Champion said: I have noticed that you always post negative reports against African-American peoples. I never see you bring attention to racial inequity or police brutality. But that's fine. That's you. Now as far as your STUDY ( NOUN :The devotion of time and attention to acquiring knowledge on an academic subject, especially by means of books: ) It is reported here by WION News which is owned by Zee Media and Zee Media Corporation (if you care to look them up) reports: The network has been involved in several controversies and has broadcast fabricated news stories on multiple occasions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,023 Posted March 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, kozmiq said: I have noticed that you always post negative reports against African-American peoples. I never see you bring attention to racial inequity or police brutality. But that's fine. That's you. Now as far as your STUDY ( NOUN :The devotion of time and attention to acquiring knowledge on an academic subject, especially by means of books: ) It is reported here by WION News which is owned by Zee Media and Zee Media Corporation (if you care to look them up) reports: The network has been involved in several controversies and has broadcast fabricated news stories on multiple occasions. Maybe it's because of a very good reason. Stop trying to make everything racist. When the truth is spoken, the liberals cry "RACISM!!! " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted March 12, 2023 Pence says Trump endangered him, his family and Congress. https://news.yahoo.com/pence-says-trump-endangered-family-032241007.html Quote "President Trump was wrong," Pence said during remarks at the annual white-tie Gridiron Dinner attended by politicians and journalists. "I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted March 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Pence says Trump endangered him, his family and Congress. https://news.yahoo.com/pence-says-trump-endangered-family-032241007.html Quote “Tourists don’t injure 140 police officers by sightseeing,” Pence said. “Tourists don’t break down doors to get to the Speaker of the House or voice threats against public officials.” Pence chastised Republicans who minimized the insurrection, days after Fox News host Tucker Carlson aired new security footage from inside the Capitol on January 6 in an attempt to defend the mob. “Make no mistake about it, what happened that day was a disgrace, and it mocks decency to portray it in any other way,” Pence said at the dinner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, paulinstl said: But muh BLM and Antifa! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 70 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: Maybe it's because of a very good reason. Stop trying to make everything racist. When the truth is spoken, the liberals cry "RACISM!!! " ME ? Racism ? ME ? I'm replying to the jerk ahead of me who always screams racist remarks. And then sends his aliases to defend his garbage. THAT crap ahead of me wasn't truth ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: Pence says Trump endangered him, his family and Congress. https://news.yahoo.com/pence-says-trump-endangered-family-032241007.html He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He refused to testify against Trump because he probably doesn’t want to be seen as “helping” the Democrats. But now he’s supposedly REALLY MAD at Trump for being mean to him. Well, you had the chance to testify against him and maybe get him banned from elected office for life. But you didn’t. So quit whining. What a spineless wimp. His pathetic wimpy-ness is exactly why Trump picked him as a non-threatening VP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted March 12, 2023 22 hours ago, dogcows said: He watched rioters break the windows, then smash the door open Something like this???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Something like this???? Why can't both be wrong? Stupid people broke the law in both of these cases. How come so many people won't agree that both were bad? I have yet to see anybody here downplay the race riots like MAGAs do Jan 6. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why can't both be wrong? Stupid people broke the law in both of these cases. How come so many people won't agree that both were bad? I have yet to see anybody here downplay the race riots like MAGAs do Jan 6. Was she charged with inciting a riot or anything else for that matter? That's the difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why can't both be wrong? Stupid people broke the law in both of these cases. How come so many people won't agree that both were bad? I have yet to see anybody here downplay the race riots like MAGAs do Jan 6. The people on Jan 6 that did violence and destruction are feeling the full weight of the FBI and the courts. Others who acted like idiots are also feeling that weight. That’s fine for the first part, the second not as much. The ones that did much more violence and destruction for months are not feeling that weight, or anything close to it. Are you going to disagree with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why can't both be wrong? Stupid people broke the law in both of these cases. How come so many people won't agree that both were bad? I have yet to see anybody here downplay the race riots like MAGAs do Jan 6. You must have missed the entire two years of mainstream media broadcasts before that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted March 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why can't both be wrong? Stupid people broke the law in both of these cases. How come so many people won't agree that both were bad? I have yet to see anybody here downplay the race riots like MAGAs do Jan 6. The mostly peaceful ones ? They were downplayed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted March 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, jonmx said: You must have missed the entire two years of mainstream media broadcasts before that. Were any charges filed against Waters for inciting riots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted March 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, League Champion said: Were any charges filed against Waters for inciting riots? That's so three years ago. Time to move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites