Fireballer 2,643 Posted April 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She's not promoting tampon use among trans women, in fact she doesn't even say she uses them, and she's not endorsed by tampax. Also your supply and demand hypothetical is really odd. There aren't enough trans women to drive up demand, and certainly manufacturers can increase supply without it affecting price. Does Dylan Mulvaney Have a Partnership With Tampax According to another video that Mulvaney posted, she does not have a partnership with Tampax. In response to the confusion, Mulvaney took to TikTok to clarify that the tampons are not for her personal use. She explained that while in a public restroom, a woman once asked her if she had any tampons, and since she didn’t, she decided to always carry them in case another woman needed them. She believes in women supporting women,and this is her small way of doing so. Despite the backlash, Mulvaney has also had to defend herself against accusations of promoting Tampax, a feminine hygiene brand. She clarified that she has never worked with the company and has never made a dollar off of feminine hygiene products. The only interaction she had with Tampax was when they reportedly sent her a box of tampons in April 2022 to give to women in need. As she puts it, “You come over to my house and we are having a glass of wine, I got a tampon for you. 4 am in the club and we go to the bathroom together, I have a tampon for you. If people quit saying stupid shat like the bolded, the attention drawn to trans people would go waaay down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,226 Posted April 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Not sure if you have any kids, but the letter people are still the outcast weird kids. They are not the popular kids. "If you want children to speak out today, I'm your child to do it. If this is an agenda, why would I choose to be gay? Why would I subject myself to being called a f*** in the bathroom everyday at school...I'm here on my own volition Satan is not getting at me." Adam Mintzer on Twitter: ""If you want children to speak out today, I'm your child to do it. If this is an agenda, why would I choose to be gay? Why would I subject myself to being called a f*** in the bathroom everyday at school...I'm here on my own volition Satan is not getting at me." https://t.co/a62TRStbgW" / Twitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: "If you want children to speak out today, I'm your child to do it. If this is an agenda, why would I choose to be gay? Why would I subject myself to being called a f*** in the bathroom everyday at school...I'm here on my own volition Satan is not getting at me." Adam Mintzer on Twitter: ""If you want children to speak out today, I'm your child to do it. If this is an agenda, why would I choose to be gay? Why would I subject myself to being called a f*** in the bathroom everyday at school...I'm here on my own volition Satan is not getting at me." https://t.co/a62TRStbgW" / Twitter Brave of that dude. Yeah I don't think trans kids enjoy being attacked by old white dudes on social media, in their schools, in the media, etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,085 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Brave of that dude. Yeah I don't think trans kids enjoy being attacked by old white dudes on social media, in their schools, in the media, etc. Then why sre they shooting young Christian kids and attacking young girls who don't want guys competing in girls sports? It's called mental illness. Brave my ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted April 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She's not promoting tampon use among trans women, in fact she doesn't even say she uses them, and she's not endorsed by tampax. Also your supply and demand hypothetical is really odd. There aren't enough trans women to drive up demand, and certainly manufacturers can increase supply without it affecting price. Does Dylan Mulvaney Have a Partnership With Tampax According to another video that Mulvaney posted, she does not have a partnership with Tampax. In response to the confusion, Mulvaney took to TikTok to clarify that the tampons are not for her personal use. She explained that while in a public restroom, a woman once asked her if she had any tampons, and since she didn’t, she decided to always carry them in case another woman needed them. She believes in women supporting women, and this is her small way of doing so. Despite the backlash, Mulvaney has also had to defend herself against accusations of promoting Tampax, a feminine hygiene brand. She clarified that she has never worked with the company and has never made a dollar off of feminine hygiene products. The only interaction she had with Tampax was when they reportedly sent her a box of tampons in April 2022 to give to women in need. As she puts it, “You come over to my house and we are having a glass of wine, I got a tampon for you. 4 am in the club and we go to the bathroom together, I have a tampon for you. Regardless of Dylan's motivations, I don't think that she's a great spokesperson. If it is indeed because she carries tampons for others, fine. Keeps them at her house, fine. I guess it's sort of like keeping spare toothbrushes or floss if you have a guest that needs to brush their teeth. At any rate, having a spokesperson promoting your brand will always create additional affects that they didn't expect. Now dudes are buying tampons to just kind of "keep just in case" a girl needs one. Ok. If that's the angle we're taking, cool. I always have one with me anyways. I've never had to ask a stranger or a friend for one. Maybe us women just need to make sure we are always at the ready for the monthly visitor. It's just what I was taught to do anyways. That said, why wouldn't Tampax send free boxes to biological men to keep at their places or in their pockets/backpacks/man-purse for women in need? I mean, if I needed one that bad and no transfemales or biofemales were around, would a normal dude keep them for me? (I am just being a jerk, no need to answer this). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: She's not promoting tampon use He, it's a He. Can you just say it already. It's Not a Woman, it's a Man!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted April 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Brave of that dude. Yeah I don't think trans kids enjoy being attacked by old white dudes on social media, in their schools, in the media, etc. The “attacks” are towards you and the rest of the enablers of this bullshit. I don’t see anyone attacking the kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, League Champion said: He, it's a He. Can you just say it already. It's Not a Woman, it's a Man!!!! Why are you letting labels bother you so much. Dude wants to be called a woman, a she, who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Why are you letting labels bother you so much. Dude wants to be called a woman, a she, who cares? Because that's the most fundamental thing we have. A man is a Man and a Woman is a Woman. Why would it be ok?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,142 Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, League Champion said: Instead of telling them "hey, you have a problem", the Libs tell everyone that it's normal make up your gender. The encourage little kids to change their gender. It's sick and perverted. You make a good point. So here goes. You have a problem. Get help. Don't let your obsession take over your life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Fireballer said: We’ve popularized being oppressed or having an ailment. Being a victim gives you status 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: You always tell me I don't care about anything unless it affects me personally, which is of course wrong, but it's just one of many things you say wrong about me. My question was how does it affect others. You can answer if you like, or you can answer how does it affect society. I honestly don't see how it does, so please enlighten me. Hard to answer how it affects others, as it is so patently obvious. How does rape affect others or society? Well, it causes physical, emotional, and psychological pain, which we as society have deemed a bad thing even if it doesn't directly affect you. Similarly, popularizing victimhood, in this case trans, can cause people without gender dysphoria but with complementary social discomfort issues like anxiety, autism, hormonal confusion during puberty, low general self-esteem, and homosexuality to mistakenly self-identify as a popular victim status of trans. This can lead to physical (particularly if medical changes are pursued), and emotional and physical (for not addressing the underlying problems) issues. Hopefully this enlightens you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, squistion said: No, liberals aren't saying that it's normal to make up your gender. They, and a majority of psychologists and psychiatrists are saying that an individual has the freedom to determine their own gender identity and it is OK to do so if they wish. I haven't really seen much, if any, of what I would call "encouragement of little kids" to change their gender but more along the lines of acceptance of those who already think of themselves with a different gender identity from which they were assigned at birth. Do you have a link with actual data to support this? A position statement from lobbying/social organizations doesn't count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Hard to answer how it affects others, as it is so patently obvious. How does rape affect others or society? Well, it causes physical, emotional, and psychological pain, which we as society have deemed a bad thing even if it doesn't directly affect you. Similarly, popularizing victimhood, in this case trans, can cause people without gender dysphoria but with complementary social discomfort issues like anxiety, autism, hormonal confusion during puberty, low general self-esteem, and homosexuality to mistakenly self-identify as a popular victim status of trans. This can lead to physical (particularly if medical changes are pursued), and emotional and physical (for not addressing the underlying problems) issues. Hopefully this enlightens you. OK, so you're saying that being trans is damaging to people, and you're worried that people that are not trans will think they are trans, and thus inflict additional damage on themselves. Therefore we need to put a stop to trans people to avoid their spread, and thus the overall self inflicted damage on everyone. Did I get that right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: OK, so you're saying that being trans is damaging to people, and you're worried that people that are not trans will think they are trans, and thus inflict additional damage on themselves. Therefore we need to put a stop to trans people to avoid their spread, and thus the overall self inflicted damage on everyone. Did I get that right? No, I said practically none of this. I bolded the accurate part. The rest, you made up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,226 Posted April 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Do you have a link with actual data to support this? A position statement from lobbying/social organizations doesn't count. Not that I can put my fingers on at the moment. But from what I've read the last few years, that is the position of a majority of mental health experts that deal with this issue. Much of what I said was paraphrasing from this article on types of gender identity which summarized most of what I was already familiar with. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/types-of-gender-identity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, I said practically none of this. I bolded the accurate part. The rest, you made up. OK, so then I assume you would support actual trans people but not fake trans people? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,595 Posted April 12, 2023 If the liberals on this board could have seen their posts from present day 10 years ago, they would say that their accounts were hacked. It’s so strange what has happened to that side. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, squistion said: Not that I can put my fingers on at the moment. But from what I've read the last few years, that is the position of a majority of mental health experts that deal with this issue. Much of what I said was paraphrasing from this article on types of gender identity which summarized most of what I was already familiar with. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/types-of-gender-identity That article listed its sources, see below. Quote How we reviewed this article: SOURCES Medical News Today has strict sourcing guidelines and draws only from peer-reviewed studies, academic research institutions, and medical journals and associations. We avoid using tertiary references. We link primary sources — including studies, scientific references, and statistics — within each article and also list them in the resources section at the bottom of our articles. You can learn more about how we ensure our content is accurate and current by reading our editorial policy. Coming out: A handbook for LGBTQ young people. (n.d.). https://www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Coming-Out-Handbook.pdf Differences in sex development. (2019). https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/ Gender and genetics. (n.d.). https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html Glossary. (2020). https://lgbtqia.ucdavis.edu/educated/glossary LGBTQIA resource center glossary. (2020). https://lgbtqia.ucdavis.edu/educated/glossary Moleiro, C., et al. (2015). Sexual orientation and gender identity: review of concepts, controversies and their relation to psychopathology classification systems. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.01511/full Sex and gender identity. (n.d.). https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity The spectrum. (n.d.). https://www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Spectrum-B.pdf Understanding gender. (n.d.). https://genderspectrum.org/articles/understanding-gender Understanding gender identities. (n.d.). https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/understanding-gender-identities/ Víllora, B., et al. (2021). Gendered nature of digital abuse in romantic relationships in adolescence. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/gender-identity What are gender roles and stereotypes? (n.d.). https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/what-are-gender-roles-and-stereotypes Not a whole lot of sciency-sounding sources, and certainly nothing which supports your assertion about the majority of psychologists and psychiatrists. I often find this with liberal "science" -- articles with circular references to each other vs. actual underlying science. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: OK, so then I assume you would support actual trans people but not fake trans people? Depends what you mean by "support," but I'll give a qualified yes. I said so several times recently to @squistion in his assertion that not all trans people have gender dysphoria, and called those who don't "fake trans." He hasn't responded, because there really isn't a good response except to define gender as "whatever you want to call yourself today." I support all people to get the help they actually need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Depends what you mean by "support," but I'll give a qualified yes. I said so several times recently to @squistion in his assertion that not all trans people have gender dysphoria, and called those who don't "fake trans." He hasn't responded, because there really isn't a good response except to define gender as "whatever you want to call yourself today." I support all people to get the help they actually need. Me too. Sounds like we're somehow on the same page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: OK, so then I assume you would support actual trans people but not fake trans people? What's the difference between an actual Trans and a fake one??? The hardware is the same and they're both fake, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Therefore we need to put a stop to trans people Except for maybe one or two idiots here, you know that no one is saying to “stop” trans people, what ever that means. What needs to be quelled is the idiotic products of the trans ideology. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,226 Posted April 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Depends what you mean by "support," but I'll give a qualified yes. I said so several times recently to @squistion in his assertion that not all trans people have gender dysphoria, and called those who don't "fake trans." He hasn't responded, because there really isn't a good response except to define gender as "whatever you want to call yourself today." I support all people to get the help they actually need. What was I supposed to respond to, that you think that those trans people who don't have dysphoria are "fake trans"? If so, probably because I can't take that statement seriously. It is documented that not all trans folks experience dysphoria, and it is absurd to claim that those self identifying as trans who claim they haven't experienced it are somehow not real transexuals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, League Champion said: What's the difference between an actual Trans and a fake one??? The hardware is the same and they're both fake, no? The difference, as we've been discussing, is that a small subset of current trans people actually have gender dysphoria, and those IMO deserve different treatment than the people who self-identify as trans. IMO the inability of some folks to acknowledge that there are a few actual trans folks is why we can't have a productive conversation on the topic. This doesn't mean we let them into women's prisons or sports, but they do exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,836 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: What was I supposed to respond to, that you think that those trans people who don't have dysphoria are "fake trans"? If so, probably because I can't take that statement seriously. It is documented that not all trans folks experience dysphoria, and it is absurd to claim that those self identifying as trans who claim they haven't experienced it are somehow not real transexuals. I asked you what the bolded means, you never responded, so I looked it up and determined the answer. If your documentation is a list of articles like the sources above who define gender as how you feel that day, then I agree there are some absurd claims going on, but not the ones you are thinking of. If I'm wrong and you have a different documentation, please advise. I'm beginning to think that when you use strong language like "majority of experts" and "documented," what you really mean is "I read a Lefty article which told me." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,226 Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, jerryskids said: I asked you what the bolded means, you never responded, so I looked it up and determined the answer. If your documentation is a list of articles like the sources above who define gender as how you feel that day, then I agree there are some absurd claims going on, but not the ones you are thinking of. If I'm wrong and you have a different documentation, please advise. I'm beginning to think that when you use strong language like "majority of experts" and "documented," what you really mean is "I read a Lefty article which told me." I would like to see proof that a majority of psychologists or psychiatrists don't have this viewpoint. And there is no study I have ever seen that says 100% of self identified trans people have gender dysphoria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,478 Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: I would like to see proof that a majority of psychologists or psychiatrists don't have this viewpoint. And there is no study I have ever seen that says 100% of self identified trans people have gender dysphoria. That's not how it works. You don't get to make a claim and then ask people to disprove it. I have a dragon in my garage, prove me wrong! It's your claim, back it up or GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,493 Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, squistion said: I would like to see proof that a majority of psychologists or psychiatrists don't have this viewpoint. And there is no study I have ever seen that says 100% of self identified trans people have gender dysphoria. I am not super familiar with all the new nomenclature because I’m old, but … if gender dysphoria means discomfort with the sex one was born with … and transgender people were led to be trans due to their discomfort with the sex they were born with … wouldn’t that mean all trans people have or at least had GD at one time? Not a leading question. I sincerely assumed this to be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said: If the liberals on this board could have seen their posts from present day 10 years ago, they would say that their accounts were hacked. It’s so strange what has happened to that side. Men can menstruate. Now be a good person and play along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Me too. Sounds like we're somehow on the same page. And on another note. Why do Drag Queens crave an audience of Children? Has anyone ever thought of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted April 12, 2023 My gender identification is that of a male, 1820's norweigian lumberjack. I've been lumberjackin it for my whole life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: She's not promoting tampon use among trans women, in fact she doesn't even say she uses them, and she's not endorsed by tampax. Also your supply and demand hypothetical is really odd. There aren't enough trans women to drive up demand, and certainly manufacturers can increase supply without it affecting price. Does Dylan Mulvaney Have a Partnership With Tampax According to another video that Mulvaney posted, she does not have a partnership with Tampax. In response to the confusion, Mulvaney took to TikTok to clarify that the tampons are not for her personal use. She explained that while in a public restroom, a woman once asked her if she had any tampons, and since she didn’t, she decided to always carry them in case another woman needed them. She believes in women supporting women, and this is her small way of doing so. Despite the backlash, Mulvaney has also had to defend herself against accusations of promoting Tampax, a feminine hygiene brand. She clarified that she has never worked with the company and has never made a dollar off of feminine hygiene products. The only interaction she had with Tampax was when they reportedly sent her a box of tampons in April 2022 to give to women in need. As she puts it, “You come over to my house and we are having a glass of wine, I got a tampon for you. 4 am in the club and we go to the bathroom together, I have a tampon for you. She? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said: She? Exactly…just part of the stupidity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said: She? She, it, surgical split. Take your pick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: She? That's the problem right there. Even it doesn't know what the hell it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted April 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, League Champion said: And on another note. Why do Drag Queens crave an audience of Children? Has anyone ever thought of that? They necessitate affirmation from young minds that haven’t formulated a world view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted April 12, 2023 They say religious people are stupid for believing in a fairy tale. Those dopes like Gutterboy are participating in one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, Fireballer said: They necessitate affirmation from young minds that haven’t formulated a world view. These Liberals are sick perverts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,478 Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: The difference, as we've been discussing, is that a small subset of current trans people actually have gender dysphoria, and those IMO deserve different treatment than the people who self-identify as trans. IMO the inability of some folks to acknowledge that there are a few actual trans folks is why we can't have a productive conversation on the topic. This doesn't mean we let them into women's prisons or sports, but they do exist. I think I like where you're going, but, I'm not so sure that we aren't 180 degrees from each other. It's hard to tell. There isn't any doubt that trans exist, you see them in the wild. And there are many reasons they exist that I don't think classify as true gender dysphoria: Young teens acting out. Caitlyn Jenner wanting to stay relevant. Fat, ugly, socially challenged men who have zero heterosexual activity find they suddenly get the attention the desire if they dress up as a woman. I suspect that true gender dysphoria exists too, but, I bet it's the exception not the rule. I think it's just being used as a crutch right now to let people dodge the obvious scientific and psychological truths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, League Champion said: That's the problem right there. Even it doesn't know what the hell it is. I don't need to see a birth certificate or do a genital inspection. The person wants to be referred as she, so I did. It's not hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites