GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)

[RogerDodger 797]

24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Saying that anorexia, bulimia and cutting are just confused teens looking for attention just proves you don't know what you're talking about 

Tiny going all literal again.  It's ok to characterize mental illness with confusion.   Notice he didnt say "just".  Your tiny brain did that.  

[Gepetto 1,327]

12 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

A select few extremists?  Where the fock have you been... China?  Do you know what the "T" means in LGBTQ.....?  The month of June, along with the homosexual community, the entire Democrat base is supporting, showing "Pride", and encouraging the "T"ransgender community.  It's also supported in academia at every level, including sports.

State governments, including school boards (elected officials), as well as medical institutions want to specifically protect trans students and even go as far as providing PHYISICAL medical "treatment", without the parents not just being uninformed, but also denying them intervention.

Exactly the new Apple iPhone OS update has special Pride background art choices.  The word Pride has been ruined as has the rainbow and bright colors in general.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Exactly the new Apple iPhone OS update has special Pride background art choices.  The word Pride has been ruined as has the rainbow and bright colors in general.

WAAAAAAAAAAAA

[seafoam1 2,858]

On 6/4/2023 at 8:21 PM, GutterBoy said:

That kids pageant sh1t is gross.  Republicans live it.

That idiot blue horseshoe thinks the boy is the problem in that video.

Talk about out of touch...

[seafoam1 2,858]

4 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

WAAAAAAAAAAAA

Year 8 and it's still TRUMP!!!! .

[seafoam1 2,858]

4 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Exactly the new Apple iPhone OS update has special Pride background art choices.  The word Pride has been ruined as has the rainbow and bright colors in general.

I'm surprised it's not illegal yet to be proud of being white, straight, in shape, having a clean criminal record and being financially successful. 

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

19 hours ago, RLLD said:

Perhaps. I find that I am focusing on what is more impactful and problematic. I am not suggesting that human nature is not present every where. But when I look across the liberal spectrum I see character assassination and the designation of opponents as "evil" is more prevalent, allowed and often encouraged.  Again, we have liberals calling this problem out as well.

The main problem I have with it is the way people are labeled.  If we label someone as evil, it removes too much from the table. And people are not automatically evil because they disagree. 

Just to speak anecdotally- I've been called a "groomer" and a "child rapist" more in the past year here than ever in my life....and I'm pretty sure you'd agree that utilt99, reality, and HT are not liberals by any stretch.

Politics has become a game of "Here is my position.....any one who does agree with my position 100% is evil and needs to be vilified to the nth degree." The left does it, the right does it.....it's all stupid and it leads nowhere productive. 

[Voltaire 5,273]

5 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

I'm surprised it's not illegal yet to be proud of being white, straight, in shape, having a clean criminal record and being financially successful. 

They are still needed to do all the work, pay taxes, and provide children to be converted into trannies. Not everyone in society can be a useless, whining victim.

[Engorgeous George 2,236]

22 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

It's not laughable.  Just because science changes as we learn more, doesn't mean we reject the current science based on what we know, because it could change in the future.

Psychiatry and psychiology are not sciences.  They are a loose collection of theories and opinions that they do try to confirm using the scientific method.  unfortunately they cannot, by the very nature of the endeavor control for all variables and so though they try, they ultimately must fail.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Just to speak anecdotally- I've been called a "groomer" and a "child rapist" more in the past year here than ever in my life....and I'm pretty sure you'd agree that utilt99, reality, and HT are not liberals by any stretch.

Politics has become a game of "Here is my position.....any one who does agree with my position 100% is evil and needs to be vilified to the nth degree." The left does it, the right does it.....it's all stupid and it leads nowhere productive. 

Are you saying I called you a child rapist? Please back that up. 

[Reality 3,121]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Are you saying I called you a child rapist? Please back that up. 

Another dude who just says stuff, doesn't matter if it's true or not. Typical left wing clown.

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Are you saying I called you a child rapist? Please back that up. 

Definitely have implied and/or outright said I was grooming kids or some nonsense like that. 

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

Another dude who just says stuff, doesn't matter if it's true or not. Typical left wing clown.

It's true- you did it too so you can piss right off. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

28 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Psychiatry adn psychiology are not sciences.  

Come on bro.  Be serious.

[Engorgeous George 2,236]

21 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

My pomposity pales compared to you stubbornness: 

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/21963-transgender-ensuring-mental-health

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria
 

https://www.gob.mx/salud/prensa/a-study-made-in-mexico-proves-that-the-transgender-is-a-condition-not-a-mental-disease
 

I could go on and on and on. I got these from the first page of googling: “is transgender a mental illness?” There is page after page of this stuff, all from medical experts, all saying no. The only ones who say yes these days are those with a conservative political agenda, such as yourself. Just as your kind has done with climate change and Covid 19, you are literally opposing the scientific truths of our age because it doesn’t fit your preconceived views. 

But it’s OK. We will progress as a society despite your resistance. Eventually you will come to realize your errors and change your mind, though I doubt you’ll ever acknowledge it. You’ll simply move on to furiously resisting the next inevitable change. 

 

My kind.  

 

My kind took the vaccinations and the boosters.  My kind doubted the efficacies which were touted, but still saw some value.  My kind wanted to seperate the medical science from the politics and the business profits of an industry which rarely seeks cures but finds treatments highly profitable.

My kind recognizes anthroprogenic global warming.  My kind wants to reduce the impacts of humans on the environment not just on this issue but on clean water, air and soils.  My kind, however, asks questions as to costs and as to future ramifications of current trends.  We ask will electric vehicles improve matters or will they just shift the damage from one zone to another.

My kind reads the articles you posted, articles which were not studies but simply assert conclusions, based, hopefully, on sound academic study, but realizing that psychiatry and psychology are far from science and are little more than the current fashionable hypothesis.  My kind has synpathy for those who suffer and has no problem with them getting treated as best as they might.  My kind, however, does not presume the current treatments provide anything more than hope.  I am fine with providing that hope, especialy when I and my money are left out of it.   My kind, however do not feel we have to actively participate in the mental health of others nor do we have to embrace presenting transgenderism or transsexuality as normal to children so as to bolster the self esteem of those suffering.  I welcome all to the public sphere.  I do not welcome all to the early education sphere as there are coercive laws forcing us to support public education and to send our children there.  In the coerced attendance sphere I advocate leaving socialization to the parents rather than to "educators", basically the lowest common denominator of college grads, indoctrinees themselves.  In elementary school I want children to be given the tools of thought, not to be indoctrinated.  I don't want them pledging their allegiance to the flag nor the republic for which it stands as they don't understand those terms nor do I want them pledging their allegiance to transgenders, antisemites, racists of any strip, or to any political philosophy.  I and my kind would not have those with an agenda push the ten commandments.  We want reading, writing arithmatic, rhetoric, introduction to science and the scientific method, art, music taught, not the orthodoxy of either current political side.

You laughably refer to experts in matters you do not understand.  Googling for titles of articles where then titles but not the content seem to support your political view is not being well-informed, it is reinforcement of your preconcieved views, views which have our most sanctimonious sanctuary cities and states turning their views, views which have our cities and towns flooded with homeless doing drugs on the streets and degrading neighborhoods and impeding business, views which have criminals operating without fear or consequence.  The closer we get to liberal utopia the more it looks like hell's gapping maw.    

[Engorgeous George 2,236]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Come on bro.  Be serious.

I am.  Until their results are consistently reproducible they are nothing more than philosophies trying to cloak themselves in the authoritative imprematur of science, the god of the new age.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

16 minutes ago, Reality said:

Another dude who just says stuff, doesn't matter if it's true or not. Typical left wing clown.

Like so many young people today, Mooney is in search of victimhood status.  And he will just make things up in order to achieve it. 

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

21 hours ago, RLLD said:

No, and I never suggested you were.  My conversation, with someone else, was pointedly about this topic. Then you decide to swing in the middle and pretend you were involved, which you were not.  Liberals are the current source of our societal issue from crime, to economy to social unrest. I will continue to point this out, because it is true.  Should it arise that liberals stop hurting this nation and its people, then i will relent. 

I am always ready for debate, and if a liberal were to suddenly abandon the character assassination ploy that might happen. 

There is a sickness in liberal circles, this has already been established. 

 

[Reality 3,121]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like so many young people today, Mooney is in search of victimhood status.  And he will just make things up in order to achieve it. 

Apparently so, I expect nothing less from him though.

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like so many young people today, Mooney is in search of victimhood status.  And he will just make things up in order to achieve it. 

"Victimhood status"? Hardly. You want to deny you have tried to throw all kinds of accusations at me- that's fine. You are a lying sack of sh!t and if you can live with yourself over it so be it. You are also the guy who wished rape on a kid so a parent would learn their lesson. You are garbage. 

1 minute ago, Reality said:

Apparently so, I expect nothing less from him though.

You are just a complete nothing. No value here on the forum. Nothing to add. Most likely a complete zero in the real world so you try to be important on here by posting stuff from Twitter. I hope you find some kind of value in life soon so maybe you can stop sadly living your life on here. 

[seafoam1 2,858]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

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You are just a complete nothing. No value here on the forum. Nothing to add. Most likely a complete zero in the real world so you try to be important on here by posting stuff from Twitter. I hope you find some kind of value in life soon so maybe you can stop sadly living your life on here. 

Mooney thinks he's somebody. 

[RogerDodger 797]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Just to speak anecdotally- I've been called a "groomer" and a "child rapist" more in the past year here than ever in my life....and I'm pretty sure you'd agree that utilt99, reality, and HT are not liberals by any stretch.

Politics has become a game of "Here is my position.....any one who does agree with my position 100% is evil and needs to be vilified to the nth degree." The left does it, the right does it.....it's all stupid and it leads nowhere productive. 

I hope you got lots of tissues in the teachers lounge. 

[Reality 3,121]

4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

I hope you got lots of tissues in the teachers lounge. 

Definitely some sort of breakdown. It happens.

[RogerDodger 797]

It makes sense guys. I mean imagine failing at life and having to come to terms with that.  Take responsibility?  Victimhood falls right in line with that for these effeminates.  

[RLLD 4,179]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Just to speak anecdotally- I've been called a "groomer" and a "child rapist" more in the past year here than ever in my life....and I'm pretty sure you'd agree that utilt99, reality, and HT are not liberals by any stretch.

Politics has become a game of "Here is my position.....any one who does agree with my position 100% is evil and needs to be vilified to the nth degree." The left does it, the right does it.....it's all stupid and it leads nowhere productive. 

I am not isolating this to the activities of a lightly trafficked forearm.

Instead I am looking at political leaders, media, the educational system and even corporations that designate any ideological debate as evil.  Liberal leaders, and to a large extent the rank and file, now happily label and declare conservatives evil or domestic terrorists. 

I mean, I get that this can be effective in silencing opposition, and defending liberal ideas is not easy.....but consider that this move (again far more expansive than this little slice of heaven) is brutally divisive and really pits people against each other. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

20 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

It makes sense guys. I mean imagine failing at life and having to come to terms with that.  Take responsibility?  Victimhood falls right in line with that for these effeminates.  

Imagine being such a vapid human being, that you have to brag on a lightly trafficked message board about how successful of a life you have, how much money you make, how hot your wife is, how masculine you are and call others failures, life losers, effeminate and mentally ill.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

My kind.  

 

My kind took the vaccinations and the boosters.  My kind doubted the efficacies which were touted, but still saw some value.  My kind wanted to seperate the medical science from the politics and the business profits of an industry which rarely seeks cures but finds treatments highly profitable.

My kind recognizes anthroprogenic global warming.  My kind wants to reduce the impacts of humans on the environment not just on this issue but on clean water, air and soils.  My kind, however, asks questions as to costs and as to future ramifications of current trends.  We ask will electric vehicles improve matters or will they just shift the damage from one zone to another.

My kind reads the articles you posted, articles which were not studies but simply assert conclusions, based, hopefully, on sound academic study, but realizing that psychiatry and psychology are far from science and are little more than the current fashionable hypothesis.  My kind has synpathy for those who suffer and has no problem with them getting treated as best as they might.  My kind, however, does not presume the current treatments provide anything more than hope.  I am fine with providing that hope, especialy when I and my money are left out of it.   My kind, however do not feel we have to actively participate in the mental health of others nor do we have to embrace presenting transgenderism or transsexuality as normal to children so as to bolster the self esteem of those suffering.  I welcome all to the public sphere.  I do not welcome all to the early education sphere as there are coercive laws forcing us to support public education and to send our children there.  In the coerced attendance sphere I advocate leaving socialization to the parents rather than to "educators", basically the lowest common denominator of college grads, indoctrinees themselves.  In elementary school I want children to be given the tools of thought, not to be indoctrinated.  I don't want them pledging their allegiance to the flag nor the republic for which it stands as they don't understand those terms nor do I want them pledging their allegiance to transgenders, antisemites, racists of any strip, or to any political philosophy.  I and my kind would not have those with an agenda push the ten commandments.  We want reading, writing arithmatic, rhetoric, introduction to science and the scientific method, art, music taught, not the orthodoxy of either current political side.

You laughably refer to experts in matters you do not understand.  Googling for titles of articles where then titles but not the content seem to support your political view is not being well-informed, it is reinforcement of your preconcieved views, views which have our most sanctimonious sanctuary cities and states turning their views, views which have our cities and towns flooded with homeless doing drugs on the streets and degrading neighborhoods and impeding business, views which have criminals operating without fear or consequence.  The closer we get to liberal utopia the more it looks like hell's gapping maw.    

You’re obviously a very smart guy. You’re also clearly angry here- if it’s at me it’s misplaced. 
 

I respect this post and what you’ve written here, but I honestly believe you’re on the wrong side of this issue and I also think your casual dismissal of  the vast majority of medical opinion is wrongheaded. But I’m afraid we’ll have to leave it at that at least for now because I’m completely tied up with work today and will have no further time to post. 
 

I always enjoy reading your posts as you are, IMO, one of the most thoughtful people here who post on a regular basis. Yet I do sense a growing hostility between us. If that is due to something I’ve written, then whatever it is I apologize. Nothing that I’ve posted was intended as a personal attack against you. 

 

[RogerDodger 797]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re obviously a very smart guy. You’re also clearly angry here- if it’s at me it’s misplaced. 
 

I respect this post and what you’ve written here, but I honestly believe you’re on the wrong side of this issue and I also think your casual dismissal of  the vast majority of medical opinion is wrongheaded. But I’m afraid we’ll have to leave it at that at least for now because I’m completely tied up with work today and will have no further time to post. 
 

I always enjoy reading your posts as you are, IMO, one of the most thoughtful people here who post on a regular basis. Yet I do sense a growing hostility between us. If that is due to something I’ve written, then whatever it is I apologize. Nothing that I’ve posted was intended as a personal attack against you. 

 

Nobody is angry here.

It's some sort of female defense mechanism to project project emotion when confronted.  Sally.

[RogerDodger 797]

17 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Imagine being such a vapid human being, that you have to brag on a lightly trafficked message board about how successful of a life you have, how much money you make, how hot your wife is, how masculine you are and call others failures, life losers, effeminate and mentally ill.

Triggered by reality.  

[seafoam1 2,858]

Just now, RogerDodger said:

Nobody is angry here.

It's some sort of female defense mechanism to project project emotion when confronted.  Sally.

All the liberals do it. It's their calling card. Bunch of phags. All of them.

[jerryskids 6,649]

13 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Saying that anorexia, bulimia and cutting are just confused teens looking for attention just proves you don't know what you're talking about 

Quote

Eating disorders are not uncommon among teens. Take "Kerri" (not her real name) for example. Upset with a sudden weight gain, the 15-year-old forced herself to throw up after eating her school lunch. It seemed harmless. After all, most of the kids at her lunch table had done it before, and they seemed OK.

Then, after doing it five times, Kerri had a new ritual of vomiting right after eating. She did it at school and then again at home. No one knew -- until Thanksgiving. She had eaten more than usual and told her parents she felt sick. She tried to vomit but couldn't even gag. Suddenly, there was a tap on the bathroom door. Kerri's parents were standing outside the door, asking how long she'd been throwing up her food.

"Mason," 14, was also obsessed about his weight. Short and chunky most of his life, Mason had a growth spurt. Now tall and thin, he was determined to never to be "the fat kid" again. Mason hated throwing up. So, he started eating salads with no dressing, running miles each day, and taking laxatives to keep his weight down.

It worked. He looked trim and athletic. But he felt exhausted, fatigued, and irritable. In the middle of the night last winter, Mason became violently ill with stomach cramps and a high fever. His doctor admitted him into the hospital and began running tests to figure out his mystery illness.

Weight obsession affects millions of teenagers today, especially girls. At any given time, one out of every seven women has or is struggling with an eating disorder. One study a few years ago found that 36% of adolescent girls - more than one out of every three -- believed they were overweight, while 59% were trying to lose weight.

More than 90% of people with an eating disorder are girls. Teenage boys, though, also have body image concerns. Many boys strive for the perfect body by dieting or by doing compulsive exercise.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/understanding-eating-disorders-teens

Perhaps instead of confusion, we can call it "an unhealthy reaction to displeasure with their body."  I think the parallels with transgenderism are clearer.   

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/understanding-eating-disorders-teens

Perhaps instead of confusion, we can call it "an unhealthy reaction to displeasure with their body."  I think the parallels with transgenderism are clearer.   

Well you proved my point, they aren't looking for attention, they have real problems.  They are disorders. 

And trans kids aren't looking for attention.  If you know any trans kids, they are usually bullied.  Due to acceptance, they are bullied less and just kinda ignored now, which is progress.  But they shouldn't be told they are wrong or bad or forced to live a certain way that is emotionally damaging.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

Mooney Blassey Ford

[GutterBoy 2,898]

 

[seafoam1 2,858]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

 

Do you even have a point? 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

53 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Do you even have a point? 

Yes, Jordan Peterson is a jack ass.

[RogerDodger 797]

On 6/4/2023 at 1:32 PM, MDC said:

There’s a warning on the website about nudity:

Link

That’s on the parents.

Yeah, that's some warning there groomer.  

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This exhibition shows some explicit anatomical elements and partial nudity scenes. We recommend that children be accompanied by adults to guide them in their visiting experience and start a dialogue on gender diversity. 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

11 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Yeah, that's some warning there groomer.  

 

Any parent that brings their kid to a pride parade should know what to expect for focks sake.  You gotta be pretty dumb to be shocked that there is outrageous behavior at one of these things.

[MDC 7,223]

13 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Yeah, that's some warning there groomer.  

 

It would be enough for me not to take my kid to the event.

That’s your job as a parent. 

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Any parent that brings their kid to a pride parade should know what to expect for focks sake.  You gotta be pretty dumb to be shocked that there is outrageous behavior at one of these things.

Parade?

You gotta be pretty dumb to think we were talking about a parade.