Trump INDICTED

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

It's easier to put it in the witch hunt category since it's #3. 

It's a weak indictment, especially 2.5 years later. That's not a little suspicious? 

There's a lot others who need to be indicted first. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

A - There is a good chance it get's thrown out before even getting to trial

B - President Trump’s Attorney John Lauro:

Start with 51 "experts" that signed off on the laptop as Russian dis-information, then every state voting law that was changed/suspended in the name of Covid, next suppression of twitter/facebook and through every one of the 73 or 93 indictments  This thing won't be over before the 2028 election.

Lol. Good luck with that Lauro. It’s not getting thrown out, and this judge won’t allow endless subpoenas either. 

[BuckSwope 654]

6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

It's a weak indictment, especially 2.5 years later. That's not a little suspicious? 

There's a lot others who need to be indicted first. 

What do you think is suspicious- how long it took? 

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol. Good luck with that Lauro. It’s not getting thrown out, and this judge won’t allow endless subpoenas either. 

Oh the fix is in?  Some libby black woman or something?

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

There is truth in this.  I've long said that there was no intent to actually convict Trump prior to the election, but rather to space out the charges to keep him negatively in the news.  It is a siege, not a blitzkrieg, the purpose of which is to generate and maintain Trump fatigue for the independent voters through the election.  And I suspect it is working.  

After they put their corpse back into office, I'm not really sure what the DNC's plan is.  They'll probably actually push to convict him, to throw some red meat to their TDS sycophants.

You think they’re just going to drop all these indictments? Not likely.

I will say, I don’t think they intend to actually imprison him. That would be a bridge too far, especially considering his advanced age 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

14 minutes ago, League Champion said:

It's a weak indictment, especially 2.5 years later. That's not a little suspicious? 

There's a lot others who need to be indicted first. 

I can assure you it is not a “weak indictment.” The underlying crimes can be difficult to prove, but the indictment is quite solid. 45 focking pages and no fluff. Most indictments are two pages 

[seafoam1 2,855]

9 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Oh the fix is in?  Some libby black woman or something?

 

I bet she doesn't know what a woman is either.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

13 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You think they’re just going to drop all these indictments? Not likely.

I will say, I don’t think they intend to actually imprison him. That would be a bridge too far, especially considering his advanced age 

Harvey Weinstein never thought he’d be imprisoned either. But now he’s rotting in jail. Too bad, so sad. 

[RogerDodger 797]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

45 focking pages and no fluff.

How's this for fluff:

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On November 11, 2020, the Defendant publicly maligned a Philadelphia City Commissioner for stating on the news that there was no evidence of widespread fraud in Philadelphia. As a result, the Philadelphia City Commissioner and his family received death threats.

Trump said something negative about someone so it's his fault they received death threats.   

Schumer's comments and the attempt on Kavanaugh's life comes to mind.  But, that's not how it works.  100% fluff.

 

[jonmx 2,425]

Can anyone take our DOJ, FBI, and CIA serious anymore?   It is complete Banana Republic.  I have no faith in our justice system today, especially at the federal level.   

[seafoam1 2,855]

Just now, jonmx said:

Can anyone take our DOJ, FBI, and CIA serious anymore.   It is complete Banana Republic.  I have no faith in our justice system today, especially at the federal level.   

They are as crooked as it gets.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,107]

27 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Oh the fix is in?  Some libby black woman or something?

 

Yup. Same from law firm that Hunter “worked” at.  

[League Champion 1,896]

34 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I can assure you it is not a “weak indictment.” The underlying crimes can be difficult to prove, but the indictment is quite solid. 45 focking pages and no fluff. Most indictments are two pages 

It's weak, there's nothing there that can stick 

[League Champion 1,896]

Even Liberal Buck would agree 

[KSB2424 3,148]

[jerryskids 6,641]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

It won’t surprise you that I disagree. 
 

First off I don’t think there’s any plan at all. Each of these cases is moving along at its own speed. The delay, IMO, was mostly due to Garland hesitating before appointing the independent prosecutor; he knew that any action against Trump would be viewed as highly political. But in the end the bulk of evidence forced his hand. 
 

Second I think this latest indictment will result in a trial prior to the election. 

Oh, there may be a trial.  I said conviction.  That being said, it would be fairly ballsy to have him on trial during the election.

1 hour ago, BuckSwope said:

And I disagree that any of this would negatively effect Trump's chances in the first place, so if it was the plan it's a dumb one.   This "witch hunt" sh1t is gold for his base - they eat it up, and it's a reason they rally behind him.   It's just more proof of the weaponization of the DOJ to them.  

What does Trump's base have to do with it?  They would vote for Trump if he clubbed a baby seal with a baby human.  I said independents, the ones who decide elections.  The DNC knows they are throwing up a corpse on their side, they need an opponent worse than a corpse.

[BuckSwope 654]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Oh, there may be a trial.  I said conviction.  That being said, it would be fairly ballsy to have him on trial during the election.

What does Trump's base have to do with it?  They would vote for Trump if he clubbed a baby seal with a baby human.  I said independents, the ones who decide elections.  The DNC knows they are throwing up a corpse on their side, they need an opponent worse than a corpse.

Oh, 0 argument there.   They should run someone else too, but IMO the dems are in a much worse position than the Ds are as far as having an electable person.   I THINK they thought Pete or Harris could be the future, but both failed miserably.  

His base represents a large % of the GOP voters, so that's what they have to do with it.  I was also responding to him, so the point of the independents was lost a little in that response. 

[Fnord 2,125]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Oh, there may be a trial.  I said conviction.  That being said, it would be fairly ballsy to have him on trial during the election.

What does Trump's base have to do with it?  They would vote for Trump if he clubbed a baby seal with a baby human.  I said independents, the ones who decide elections.  The DNC knows they are throwing up a corpse on their side, they need an opponent worse than a corpse.

I think we determined that the electorate preferred the corpse over the conman. And that was before the many indictments, the second impeachment, and an unfit man running on a platform of making himself more powerful. 

And I don't GAF about having the trial while he's running. The mofo is only running to stay out of prison.

[jerryskids 6,641]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I think we determined that the electorate preferred the corpse over the conman. And that was before the many indictments, the second impeachment, and an unfit man running on a platform of making himself more powerful. 

And I don't GAF about having the trial while he's running. The mofo is only running to stay out of prison.

Biden was less dead in 2020, and 2.5 years of the Biden reign has been less than encouraging.  Even if you believe Biden got 81 million votes last time around, his odds of repeating it are not good.  

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[thegeneral 3,048]

“You’re too honest” -DJT to Pence when trying to convince him to keep him in power.

“Just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen” -DJT to the acting AG

This dummy says this stuff out loud

[jonmx 2,425]

Good thing the slam dunk case against the open and felonious acts of the Bidens are being swept under the rug on a plea deal on what amounts to a traffic ticket.   Instead we are pushing out the most massive political prosecution of anyone on the right who dares to speak.

F-you all dumbasses who does not see how corrupt the entire executive branch and all their agencies have become.   This is no longer America. 

[BuckSwope 654]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Biden was less dead in 2020, and 2.5 years of the Biden reign has been less than encouraging.  Even if you believe Biden got 81 million votes last time around, his odds of repeating it are not good.  

Jfc, you too? 

[jonmx 2,425]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

“You’re too honest” -DJT to Pence when trying to convince him to keep him in power.

“Just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen” -DJT to the acting AG

This dummy says this stuff out loud

Joe Biden:  "give my son millions and I can get you billions in aid"   

[Fnord 2,125]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Biden was less dead in 2020, and 2.5 years of the Biden reign has been less than encouraging.  Even if you believe Biden got 81 million votes last time around, his odds of repeating it are not good.  

I'm guessing he'll get more. Do you really think independent voters will look at the two of them comparatively and come to the conclusion that Trump and the clown/shlt show he brings with him, criminality and all, is preferable to an old fogey? Especially if the knobs in congress try to impeach Biden between now and then? Assuming of course that no charges are brought against Biden in the meantime...

[thegeneral 3,048]

Just now, jonmx said:

Joe Biden:  "give my son millions and I can get you billions in aid"   

Jon playing the whatabout blues!

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

Jfc, you too? 

I tried to stick up for you, Liberal Buck. 

Ever been to Georgia? If so then you know there's NO CHANCE that Biden won that State. 

[jerryskids 6,641]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm guessing he'll get more. Do you really think independent voters will look at the two of them comparatively and come to the conclusion that Trump and the clown/shlt show he brings with him, criminality and all, is preferable to an old fogey? Especially if the knobs in congress try to impeach Biden between now and then? Assuming of course that no charges are brought against Biden in the meantime...

You are proving my point; the "clown/sh1t show, criminality and all" is what the DNC is doing to maintain or even grow the vote.   

Also I don't know how the independent crowd will respond to a Biden impeachment; it probably depends what comes out of it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,107]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm guessing he'll get more. Do you really think independent voters will look at the two of them comparatively and come to the conclusion that Trump and the clown/shlt show he brings with him, criminality and all, is preferable to an old fogey? Especially if the knobs in congress try to impeach Biden between now and then? Assuming of course that no charges are brought against Biden in the meantime...

You’re right. The situation at the border and the illegals sleeping on the street and cites forking over billions to house and feed them could never , ever be described as a shitt show. Also Afghanistan was a smooth operation. Mean tweets and blue hairs screaming is much more troubling. 

[thegeneral 3,048]

Who are the unnamed co-conspirators 

- Rudy

- John Eastman

- Sydney Powell

who else?!

[BuckSwope 654]

8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I tried to stick up for you, Liberal Buck. 

Ever been to Georgia? If so then you know there's NO CHANCE that Biden won that State. 

Uh oh, disagree on something? Flaming lib!! 

Eta: no, I haven't been to GA recently.   I just can't get on board with wholesale widespread voter fraud effecting the election that much.   Yes, it's healthy to have skepticism, both when you are being told on all sides and through the courts you lost, well..  

[thegeneral 3,048]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I tried to stick up for you, Liberal Buck. 

Ever been to Georgia? If so then you know there's NO CHANCE that Biden won that State. 

Republican Gov and AG of GA disagree. Don’t be a loon, LC!

[jerryskids 6,641]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Jfc, you too? 

I'm not saying he didn't get it; I'm saying we'll never know.  This was adjudicated on this site probably before you got here, but basically all of the states that added untested methods of voting had, by design, no accurate way of disproving fraud.  I'm something of a systems expert FWIW.  Remember the Iowa caucus app debacle?  Now imagine brand new methods on a national scale. 

Again, I'm not saying there was election-changing fraud, just that there is no way to tell.  So I kinda laugh at all of the pseuds who buy the "most secure election evah!" pablum.

[Reality 3,121]

47 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Right, about sums it up.

Also, for the rest of you, especially you new dispshlts.  I see worms is back...

If he's offering up legal advice or opinion, I'd highly recommend assuming the opposite is true. That dude has a horrible track record concerning anything related to law. No matter the subject.

You've been warned.

[thegeneral 3,048]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not saying he didn't get it; I'm saying we'll never know.  This was adjudicated on this site probably before you got here, but basically all of the states that added untested methods of voting had, by design, no accurate way of disproving fraud.  I'm something of a systems expert FWIW.  Remember the Iowa caucus app debacle?  Now imagine brand new methods on a national scale. 

Again, I'm not saying there was election-changing fraud, just that there is no way to tell.  So I kinda laugh at all of the pseuds who buy the "most secure election evah!" pablum.

Has any election ever had more scrutiny, recounts, lawsuits, etc than 2020 across multiple states? Maybe 2000 in Florida approached it. 

[squistion 2,031]

I think Trump would actually like this as he could use the booking photo/mug shot for fundraising.

 

[supermike80 1,852]

2 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Come, on - like this is a quantifiable thing we could argue about.  It's just opinion which side does it more or a larger %. 

You are reasonable, can we at least agree that anybody believing him after the multiple court cases and people from his own team telling him he lost is probably going on feels, including the man himself? 

You should probably see the other posts I made in regards to this opinion before you spout off.

[RogerDodger 797]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm guessing he'll get more. Do you really think independent voters will look at the two of them comparatively and come to the conclusion that Trump and the clown/shlt show he brings with him, criminality and all, is preferable to an old fogey? Especially if the knobs in congress try to impeach Biden between now and then? Assuming of course that no charges are brought against Biden in the meantime...

I don't think most people, including independents, vote with their feelings like you seem to do. 

Now that they've experienced 3 years of Biden's woke groomer raise taxes to give handouts agenda they will see Trump is superior in terms of policy. America first, law and order, secure boarder and tax breaks.  

[jerryskids 6,641]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Has any election ever had more scrutiny, recounts, lawsuits, etc than 2020 across multiple states? Maybe 2000 in Florida approached it. 

I trust our ability to count ballots, that's not rocket surgery.  The question is the integrity of what went into the ballots.

But again, that's not a hill I'll die on.  The more obvious impacts on the election were things like unconstitutional changes to voting procedures in places like PA, the media and Feds holding back the Hunter laptop, and the holding back of Covid vaccine approval until just after the election.

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

You should probably see the other posts I made in regards to this opinion before you spout off.

Fair.