jerryskids 6,799 Posted August 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m betting it occurred to Trump. And look how some of his fans are reacting: https://www.aol.com/news/trump-prosecutor-fani-willis-faces-165556144.html Trump fans are not Trump. So now your premise is that Trump is a thoughtful, creative social media poster who crafted an entire message around the election being rigged so he could end with the word "riggers", because of course of his long history of hating black people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted August 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Trump fans are not Trump. So now your premise is that Trump is a thoughtful, creative social media poster who crafted an entire message around the election being rigged so he could end with the word "riggers", because of course of his long history of hating black people. No. I think he thought of it at the spur of the moment and decided to use it as a coded message. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,272 Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Trump fans are not Trump. No. But he knows goddam well that they will pick up the rubbish he leaves behind for them. He knows they will act on his words, to the point of violence, even when the intent behind them is veiled. And he loves it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I didn’t challenge the conversation. And no Solomon got nothing right about the Trump-Russia connection. Nothing. Total hack according to Tim Solomon has received a number of awards for investigative journalism, among them the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award and the Society of Professional Journalists' National Investigative Award, which he won together with CBS News' 60 Minutes for Evidence of Injustice;[59] in 2002, the Associated Press's Managing Editors Enterprise Reporting Award for What The FBI Knew Before September 11, 2001, and the Gramling Journalism Achievement Award for his coverage of the war on terrorism;[60] in 1992, the White House Correspondents' Association'sRaymond Clapper Memorial Award for an investigative series on Ross Perot.[61] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Total hack according to Tim Solomon has received a number of awards for investigative journalism, among them the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award and the Society of Professional Journalists' National Investigative Award, which he won together with CBS News' 60 Minutes for Evidence of Injustice;[59] in 2002, the Associated Press's Managing Editors Enterprise Reporting Award for What The FBI Knew Before September 11, 2001, and the Gramling Journalism Achievement Award for his coverage of the war on terrorism;[60] in 1992, the White House Correspondents' Association'sRaymond Clapper Memorial Award for an investigative series on Ross Perot.[61] Complete and utter hack: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/19/hill-john-solomon-failed-disclose-details-115976 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted August 16, 2023 Is Trump some out and out racist. Of course not. He just needs their votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 16, 2023 It is remarkable the baseless contempt so many hold for Trump, and in contrast the cognitive dissonance when it comes to Biden. Its no wonder the powerful get away with so much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: It is remarkable the baseless contempt so many hold for Trump, and in contrast the cognitive dissonance when it comes to Biden. Its no wonder the powerful get away with so much. Baseless contempt? That motherfocker has more than 90 charges against him, not the least of which includes charges of interfering in our election system in an attempt to stay in office and brainwashing his cultists into thinking he's the victim here. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Complete and utter hack: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/19/hill-john-solomon-failed-disclose-details-115976 Yeah you fail again the only hack in that article is the author Kyle Cheney. Now which facts about the collusion hoax did he get wrong and who got them right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: Baseless contempt? That motherfocker has more than 90 charges against him, not the least of which includes charges of interfering in our election system in an attempt to stay in office and brainwashing his cultists into thinking he's the victim here. I understand the tactical and strategic approach to malign him ahead of an election. But I am disinclined to allow myself to be so easily manipulated. It would seem that the only person we apparently care about when it comes to election discourse is Trump. And franky, I really dont care that many others of done the same thing. They have every right to challenge the outcome of elections. I am just not going to pretend its only Trump, or he is somehow worse or any of that nonsense...... When you overdo something, it can be counter productive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: It is remarkable the baseless contempt so many hold for Trump, and in contrast the cognitive dissonance when it comes to Biden. Its no wonder the powerful get away with so much. Baseless? I would argue that, discounting his politics and the state of his legal issues, he’s a contemptible human being and has been since long before he was involved in politics. I think that there has to be a certain level of corruption that you have to have to reach the levels of power that Biden has reached, but again, discounting politics and the state of his legal issues, Ifind Biden less contemptible. Cue all the “But he’s a kiddy sniffer” posts in 3-2-1… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, WatsonRules said: Baseless? I would argue that, discounting his politics and the state of his legal issues, he’s a contemptible human being and has been since long before he was involved in politics. I think that there has to be a certain level of corruption that you have to have to reach the levels of power that Biden has reached, but again, discounting politics and the state of his legal issues, Ifind Biden less contemptible. Cue all the “But he’s a kiddy sniffer” posts in 3-2-1… He has a long history of vindictiveness, being a crapass businessman, focking over people, womanizing and all sorts of contemptible behavior, not to mention his toxic self-love and vows to become a power-grabbing dictator if elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, WatsonRules said: Baseless? I would argue that, discounting his politics and the state of his legal issues, he’s a contemptible human being and has been since long before he was involved in politics. I think that there has to be a certain level of corruption that you have to have to reach the levels of power that Biden has reached, but again, discounting politics and the state of his legal issues, Ifind Biden less contemptible. Cue all the “But he’s a kiddy sniffer” posts in 3-2-1… Agree. I am confident I would find him to be entirely distasteful as a person. But when it comes to leaders, effectiveness is what matters, not likeability. And in terms of effectiveness, I am rather pleased. If accountability were being evently applied, I might be more supportive....but it is not....and the timing of things, the over pursuit....I mean, if they could at least be less obvious.... or....if they could be as interested in Biden as they are in Trump, I would like that as well... Wouldnt it be great if those in our legal system were as intersted in ANY other politician.....as they are in Trump.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Yeah you fail again the only hack in that article is the author Kyle Cheney. Now which facts about the collusion hoax did he get wrong and who got them right? Wow this is hilarious all you did was google a negative article about Solomon, found one written by one of the biggest partisan hacks in the corporate media and , didn’t even bother to read it . You should have just linked Maddie This part is gold. No, neither of these two are credible sources of the corrupt dealings the Biden’s were pulling in Ukraine - “Those include, most notably, two former Ukrainian prosecutors — Yuriy Lutsenko and Victor Shokin — who were the principal sources behind unsupported allegations of corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 No one can explain the Bidens wealth. The only thing that adds up is corruption. And a lot of it. Now That’s contemptible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, RLLD said: I understand the tactical and strategic approach to malign him ahead of an election. But I am disinclined to allow myself to be so easily manipulated. It would seem that the only person we apparently care about when it comes to election discourse is Trump. And franky, I really dont care that many others of done the same thing. They have every right to challenge the outcome of elections. I am just not going to pretend its only Trump, or he is somehow worse or any of that nonsense...... When you overdo something, it can be counter productive. Challenging elections? Like scores of failed lawsuits? Where is the line? Trying to supplant legal electors with fake electors? Pressuring state govts to toss out or find votes? Stealing voting machines? You can't really be serious, right? Would you please point out some actions of "others that have done the same thing"? What Trump and his court of advisors did was way more serious than merely challenging election results. I guess we'll now see if it was illegal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Challenging elections? Like scores of failed lawsuits? Where is the line? Trying to supplant legal electors with fake electors? Pressuring state govts to toss out or find votes? Stealing voting machines? You can't really be serious, right? Would you please point out some actions of "others that have done the same thing"? What Trump and his court of advisors did was way more serious than merely challenging election results. I guess we'll now see if it was illegal. If it arises that they find Trump guilty then.....he is found guilty....and so what.....what do I care if someone in power is taken down? I care not at all....I am not some sychopant to Trump or a political party, unlike so many others.... So many who apparently care so very deeply......so DEEPLY.....when it comes to Trump.......and yet make allowances for others. If only a fraction of this.....this DEEP and abiding concern for fairness,.....and-and, well....the rule of law....were applied to say, Biden....just imagine. But alas, I only get what I want if the letter next to the politician suits people...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No one can explain the Bidens wealth. The only thing that adds up is corruption. And a lot of it. Now That’s contemptible. Now do Jared and Ivanka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 The DA in Georgia has to fight so hard to not sound like ghetto trash. I give her credit for trying. But it’s still there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 I'm all for Biden having to face the music if and when his corruption is proven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Now do Jared and Ivanka Jared can be put under the prison for all I care. They should go after him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: If it arises that they find Trump guilty then.....he is found guilty....and so what.....what do I care if someone in power is taken down? I care not at all....I am not some sychopant to Trump or a political party, unlike so many others.... So many who apparently care so very deeply......so DEEPLY.....when it comes to Trump.......and yet make allowances for others. If only a fraction of this.....this DEEP and abiding concern for fairness,.....and-and, well....the rule of law....were applied to say, Biden....just imagine. But alas, I only get what I want if the letter next to the politician suits people...... Is there not an ongoing investigation in both the DOJ and Congress of the Bidens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The DA in Georgia has to fight so hard to not sound like ghetto trash. I give her credit for trying. But it’s still there. Does that bother you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Does that bother you? Just an observation. Doesn’t it bother you when white politicians like Hillary and Biden try to sound like that when they speak to black people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Just an observation. Doesn’t it bother you when white politicians like Hillary and Biden try to sound like that when they speak to black people? I never noticed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,281 Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 10:28 AM, Dizkneelande said: The recount only counted total votes and didn’t forensically analyze the ballots. Biden won by less than 11k votes. Georgia’s mail-in ballot rejection rate in 2020 was low at about 0.24%. The historical average is 3%. It’s not a crime to ask to look into severe irregularities in ballot processes. Stop getting your news from Facebook memes and Trump Quote Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Georgia rejected “almost zero” ballots in the 2020 election and around 4% in the previous election years. The claim, echoed on Twitter by President Trump, is untrue. Examples can be seen here and here .This claim was posted by President Donald J. Trump on Facebook and Twitter on Nov. 19, 2020 here and here . Georgia Secretary of State (SoS) shared in a Facebook post and on its website the numbers for rejected absentee ballots in 2016, 2018 and 2020, visible here and here . The Facebook post by the Georgia SoS says that in the 2016 Presidential election, 580 out of 246,621 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for “missing or inaccurate oath information” with a rejection rate of 0.24% (here). In the 2018 general election, 454 out of 284,393 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15% (here). In 2020, 2,011 out of 1,322,529 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%. Both 2018 and 2020 has the same rejection rate of 0.15% for signature issues, the Georgia Secretary of State said. (here) The claim that almost zero ballots were rejected in Georgia this year is false. 2,011 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for signature related issues. The claim that around 4% of ballots were rejected in Georgia in previous election years is also false. The Georgia Secretary of State said that 580 ballots in 2016 and 454 in 2018 were rejected. These numbers make up ballot rejection rates of 0.24% in 2016 and 0.15% in 2018. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Stop getting your news from Facebook memes and Trump Facts don't matter when you refuse to accept them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Stop getting your news from Facebook memes and Trump You think this bored is lightly trafficked now, I can't imagine what it would be like if this was a rule here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, paulinstl said: Facts don't matter when you refuse to accept them. Facts all come with points of view. Facts don't due what I want them to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, paulinstl said: I never noticed it. I guess you didn’t notice when Biden was talking to a group of professional black people and he told them in his shuck and jive voice “they gonna put y’all back in chains”. You must have missed it. Now you know. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I guess you didn’t notice when Biden was talking to a group of professional black people and he told them in his shuck and jive voice “they gonna put y’all back in chains”. You must have missed it. Now you know. Thoughts? I don't care at all. On the surface, it sounds cringe-worthy, but who cares? As far as the Atlanta DA, would you prefer her to talk "ghetto"? I guarantee if she did, you'd post about that too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, paulinstl said: I don't care at all. On the surface, it sounds cringe-worthy, but who cares? As far as the Atlanta DA, would you prefer her to talk "ghetto"? I guarantee if she did, you'd post about that too. Maybe. But it would be real. Not phony. I wonder if Biden would get in front of a bunch of Irish professionals and slip into a brogue and say “ They’re gonna put you all back in the Paddy Wagon”. See, he wouldn’t. He wouldn’t treat that group like unserious people he was trying to scare with nonsense. Or do you think he would tell a Jewish group that they were going to “put you back in the camps” in an exaggerated Jewish voice? No. He would never do that. It would be highly disrespectful. But it’s ok to treat black people like that. Did you say something about contemptible earlier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted August 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Maybe. But it would be real. Not phony. I wonder if Biden would get in front of a bunch of Irish professionals and slip into a brogue and say “ They’re gonna put you all back in the Paddy Wagon”. See, he wouldn’t. He wouldn’t treat that group like unserious people he was trying to scare with nonsense. Or do you think he would tell a Jewish group that they were going to “put you back in the camps” in an exaggerated Jewish voice? No. He would never do that. It would be highly disrespectful. But it’s ok to treat black people like that. Did you say something about contemptible earlier? So, your original post about the DA was about her trying not to sound ghetto. What does the Biden thing have to with your original post? What was your point in posting about it? Was it that she is black and by trying to speak a certain way, she is not real? Why do you care what she sounds like? What's wrong with someone trying not to: sound ghetto"? How is her speech pattern insulting anyone? I can't for the life of me understand how the two examples are even remotely similar. Are you saying she only talks non-:ghetto" around whites? Does she go back to shuckin' and jivin' when she's around other blacks. It's crazy that you find that this is worth posting about. There has to be something deeper that you're hinting at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Stop getting your news from Facebook memes and Trump The numbers don’t matter. Net/Net the rejection rate for mail in ballots in 2020 were lower than 2018 and 2016. With a record number of mail in ballots that is a major discrepancy. https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots In 2020, voters cast 70,550,699 absentee/mail-in ballots in the general election. Of these, 560,177 (0.8%) of which were rejected. By comparison, absentee/mail-in ballot rejection rates in 2018 and 2016 were 1.4% and 1.0%, respectively.[1] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, paulinstl said: So, your original post about the DA was about her trying not to sound ghetto. What does the Biden thing have to with your original post? What was your point in posting about it? Was it that she is black and by trying to speak a certain way, she is not real? Why do you care what she sounds like? What's wrong with someone trying not to: sound ghetto"? How is her speech pattern insulting anyone? I can't for the life of me understand how the two examples are even remotely similar. Are you saying she only talks non-:ghetto" around whites? Does she go back to shuckin' and jivin' when she's around other blacks. It's crazy that you find that this is worth posting about. There has to be something deeper that you're hinting at. Just commenting on politicians being phony. Any thoughts on Biden disrespecting black people like I pointed out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: The numbers don’t matter. Net/Net the rejection rate for mail in ballots in 2020 were lower than 2018 and 2016. With a record number of mail in ballots that is a major discrepancy. https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots In 2020, voters cast 70,550,699 absentee/mail-in ballots in the general election. Of these, 560,177 (0.8%) of which were rejected. By comparison, absentee/mail-in ballot rejection rates in 2018 and 2016 were 1.4% and 1.0%, respectively.[1] You’ll never convince the election fraud deniers of it. Their guy “won”. And he’s doing a great job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,428 Posted August 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: The numbers don’t matter. Net/Net the rejection rate for mail in ballots in 2020 were lower than 2018 and 2016. With a record number of mail in ballots that is a major discrepancy. https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots In 2020, voters cast 70,550,699 absentee/mail-in ballots in the general election. Of these, 560,177 (0.8%) of which were rejected. By comparison, absentee/mail-in ballot rejection rates in 2018 and 2016 were 1.4% and 1.0%, respectively.[1] Well that proves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, MDC said: Well that proves it. It’s kind of does doesn’t it? With a record number of mail in ballots the number of rejections shouldn’t decrease. It’s weird that the New York Times would agree with me no? NYT 2012 - Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted August 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’ll never convince the election fraud deniers of it. Their guy “won”. And he’s doing a great job. I get that I just like pointing out hypocrisy to hypocrites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites