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4 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Blasphemy!

Better Call Saul actually had characters you could like. Breaking Bad had a total of zero characters you could like. 6-7 seasons, or whatever, of truly disgusting characters. All of them. 

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16 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Better Call Saul actually had characters you could like. Breaking Bad had a total of zero characters you could like. 6-7 seasons, or whatever, of truly disgusting characters. All of them. 

Jesse was a likable character cause you felt bad for him later in in the series.

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Just now, BeenHereBefore said:

Jesse was a likable character cause you felt bad for him later in in the series.

I liked Ruth better in Ozark.

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3 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I liked both.

Ok. In Better Call Saul, likable characters:

Kim

Jimmy on and off

Mike on and off

Nacho

And others...

Great villians in ....

Howard off and on

Chuck

Lalo

Hector

Manuel and others.

 

Clear definition between good and bad. Breaking Bad? All characters needed to die.

 

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Ok. In Better Call Saul, likable characters:

Kim

Jimmy on and off

Mike on and off

Nacho

And others...

Great villians in ....

Howard off and on

Chuck

Lalo

Hector

Manuel and others.

 

Clear definition between good and bad. Breaking Bad? All characters needed to die.

 

So you would kill the crippled kid ?

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Just now, BeenHereBefore said:

So you would kill the crippled kid ?

Yes. He would be the first to go. I focking hated him.

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Have to disagree, Breaking Bad was better.  I enjoy complex characters who are not easily placed in the good or bad category; it was what led me to George R R Martin's books ages ago when they first came out.  IMO Jimmy became a bit of a caricature including his ... behavior at the very end (I don't know if we are going into spoilers here, maybe add that to the title?).

Chuck was probably closest to that type of character.  

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10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Have to disagree, Breaking Bad was better.  I enjoy complex characters who are not easily placed in the good or bad category; it was what led me to George R R Martin's books ages ago when they first came out.  IMO Jimmy became a bit of a caricature including his ... behavior at the very end (I don't know if we are going into spoilers here, maybe add that to the title?).

Chuck was probably closest to that type of character.  

I think Jimmy was just tired at the end and wanted to do something for Kim, who was a real influence in his life. He looked old and haggard. He probably didn't want to go to jail for 7+ years and go back to the same life that much older. 

I guess if you start getting old after a life of crime you may just want some peace. Even it it means prison.

He was a multi-millionaire at one point. Then he went back to scraping the bottom.

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Season 6 was stellar.

So much better than Breaking Bad. 

Have always said this, too.

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Better Call Saul actually had characters you could like. Breaking Bad had a total of zero characters you could like. 6-7 seasons, or whatever, of truly disgusting characters. All of them. 

Are you just quoting my previous comments on these two shows 🤣

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

I liked Ruth better in Ozark.

Ruth is awesome. 

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59 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Ok. In Better Call Saul, likable characters:

Kim

Jimmy on and off

Mike on and off

Nacho

And others...

Great villians in ....

Howard off and on

Chuck

Lalo

Hector

Manuel and others.

 

Clear definition between good and bad. Breaking Bad? All characters needed to die.

 

Don’t you talk about Mike like that :mad:

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Love both shows. I like BCS more. 

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7 minutes ago, dain11279 said:

Don’t you talk about Mike like that :mad:

Great character. I hated Chuck though. :wall:

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What happen? 

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No spoilers. @weepawswatch it or google it if you want to know. I've seen Breaking Bad but still need to watch all 6 seasons of Better Call Saul. Better Call Saul is considered top 10 show all time.

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

No spoilers. @weepawswatch it or google it if you want to know. I've seen Breaking Bad but still need to watch all 6 seasons of Better Call Saul. Better Call Saul is considered top 10 show all time.

Do it. Take time off work to sit back and enjoy it.

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32 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Love both shows. I like BCS more. 

This and BCS, largely a prequel, pulling off an ending to the series that was perfect.  Lots of underwhelming finales to great series out there.

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I would disagree with the seafoam take.  I felt like the character development in Breaking Bad was fantastic.  Walter went from a likable character (albeit somewhat unbelievable..think Fugue State..at first) to a hated sociopath. Jesse's character did the exact opposite.

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3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

This and BCS, largely a prequel, pulling off an ending to the series that was perfect.  Lots of underwhelming finales to great series out there.

"Perfect".

Gotta admit I was a bit confused whether things were past or future in the last few episodes. But easy to figure out and awesome. What a great ending. 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"Perfect".

Gotta admit I was a bit confused whether things were past or future in the last few episodes. But easy to figure out and awesome. What a great ending. 

I struggled with this watching BCS as well. Both great shows.

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I liked both! 

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Liked them both but BB > BCS

BB Saul was more entertaining than BCS Saul.  Mikewas great in both though. 

The ending of BB was great.  The ending of BCS sucked imo.  Jimmy had one speed in both shows and he ended so out of character.   It ended up being another in the list of shows that could not stick the lading. 

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

"Perfect".

Gotta admit I was a bit confused whether things were past or future in the last few episodes. But easy to figure out and awesome. What a great ending. 

Hated the ending.  Who was that guy?  Jimmy would not have given it all up for nothing. 

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Just now, Bill E. said:

Liked them both but BB > BCS

BB Saul was more entertaining than BCS Saul.  Mikewas great in both though. 

The ending of BB was great.  The ending of BCS sucked imo.  Jimmy had one speed in both shows and he ended so out of character.   It ended up being another in the list of shows that could not stick the lading

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25 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

Hated the ending.  Who was that guy?  Jimmy would not have given it all up for nothing. 

He was old and tired dude. Living life has effects on a person. Do you disagree?

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36 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

He was old and tired dude. Living life has effects on a person. Do you disagree?

I'm trying to word this without spoilers:  what he did that led to the ending was the opposite of being old and tired; it shows that he was re-invigorated.

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1 hour ago, Bill E. said:

Liked them both but BB > BCS

BB Saul was more entertaining than BCS Saul.  Mikewas great in both though. 

The ending of BB was great.  The ending of BCS sucked imo.  Jimmy had one speed in both shows and he ended so out of character.   It ended up being another in the list of shows that could not stick the lading. 

You dont understand his character very well if you think that.  The entire last two seasons were full of Jimmy starting to second guess Saul.  Lalo almost blew..........no spoilers.  

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1 hour ago, Bill E. said:

Hated the ending.  Who was that guy?  Jimmy would not have given it all up for nothing. 

He didnt give it up all for nothing.  Here is an article that explains it really well that spoiler guys dont have to click on. 

https://screenrant.com/better-call-saul-courtroom-testimony-plea-change-explained/#:~:text=In reality%2C Saul never intended,be recognized as James McGill.

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"Breaking Bad" is the G.O.A.T., followed by "Sopranos."

I'd rank a lot of shows ahead of BCS: "The Wire," "Seinfeld," "The Office," "Cheers," "M.A.S.H.," "All in the Family," "Mary Tyler Moore" and "Ozark," to name a few.

I didn't really like the way BCS ended, kind of like "Game of Thrones." And it seemed kind of slow in spots.

I don't understand this whole "likeable" aspect. "Breaking Bad" had GREAT characters. 

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10 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

He was old and tired dude. Living life has effects on a person. Do you disagree?

Spoilers ....

 

 

 

No but if I was that miserable I would kill myself before purposefully going to prison for the rest of my life. 

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8 hours ago, RogerDodger said:

You dont understand his character very well if you think that.  The entire last two seasons were full of Jimmy starting to second guess Saul.  Lalo almost blew..........no spoilers.  

Spoilers...

 

 

Yea I get the character.  But going to prison for the rest of your life on purpose??  Jimmy, Saul, me you... who does that?  

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3 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

No but if I was that miserable I would kill myself before purposefully going to prison for the rest of my life. 

Could you really kill yourself?

Dude just lived through all that and is simply tired and wants to make a final gesture towards the love of his life. Easy peasy 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Could you really kill yourself?

No but Sentencing myself to prison for life.  Could not do that either. 

I liked the series especially Mike but just not the ending.

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1 minute ago, Bill E. said:

No but Sentencing myself to prison for life.  Could not do that either. 

Are you taking into account the life he led? Or the life you lived?

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