Ray_T 740 Posted July 26, 2023 Chiefs WR Kadarius Toney has knee surgery and faces several weeks out but is 'determined' to make first game of new NFL season on Sept. 7 | Daily Mail Online they say he will be back by week 1 but I am skeptical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted July 26, 2023 Arthroscopic surgery, a month and a half about? That's doable if it's not too complex, but I'm still quite skeptical, I would knock him down a notch or two on draft day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 981 Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, polecatt said: That's doable if it's not too complex, but I'm still quite skeptical, I would knock him down a notch or two on draft day Toney fell more than "a notch" in the 12 team mock this morning... taken round 11. That's probably where he should be drafted, but ya know somebody will pull the trigger much earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted July 26, 2023 I have removed him from my list. I’ll focus on S Moore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted July 26, 2023 to add to this, if he had shown to camp looking healthy I think he would have been drafted by now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 27, 2023 He can't walk to his refrigerator without getting hurt. I traded his ass in 2 dynasty leagues. I should be in jail for robbery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted July 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, League Champion said: He can't walk to his refrigerator without getting hurt. I traded his ass in 2 dynasty leagues. I should be in jail for robbery. For? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 27, 2023 3 hours ago, weepaws said: For? Trading Toney for 1st round dynasty picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted July 27, 2023 Hard pass, I don’t think this guy is ever going to pan out. But then who, out of KC, is the question. Skyy Moore was awful last year but he was a rookie. Valdes-Scantling is a jag and just a one note deep threat at that. I guess you gotta go Moore and hope he takes a big step forward. Anybody have an informed belief on whether that will occur? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted July 27, 2023 If I am able to draft Moore, it will be based on hope. But darn he’s going to play with a good Qb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, League Champion said: He can't walk to his refrigerator without getting hurt. I traded his ass in 2 dynasty leagues. I should be in jail for robbery. Thats not true. He did it yesterday. but then got an infection by means of a papercut when he signed his contract. really bad luck for this guy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ray_T said: Thats not true. He did it yesterday. but then got an infection by means of a papercut when he signed his contract. really bad luck for this guy..... I've never seen anything like it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, weepaws said: If I am able to draft Moore, it will be based on hope. But darn he’s going to play with a good Qb. Yup, Sky Moore is looking better and better. Maybe a WR1 before it's all done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 3:06 PM, weepaws said: I have removed him from my list. I’ll focus on S Moore. OMG!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted July 29, 2023 Rashee Rice could be the WR to have if he can get up to speed early…big if. He’ll also need to show consistent effort. He tended not to show up at times in college, but impressed when he gave the effort. Hopefully preseason will shed some light on the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted July 29, 2023 Read an article that said Rice was on the field with the first unit during workouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 67 Posted July 30, 2023 Yes, I think Rice is a guy tokeep.an eye on through camp and see where he slots in the pecking order come.week 1. Maybe a good late round bench stash if your drafts are.close to.the season opening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 228 Posted July 30, 2023 If Travis Kelce pans out, he could be a decent pick up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted July 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, LaChup said: If Travis Kelce pans out, he could be a decent pick up. He’s going to need to show me something in the preseason before I’m buying in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted July 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, JagFan said: He’s going to need to show me something in the preseason before I’m buying in. I don't know, seems like a bad teammate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted July 30, 2023 Kelce ADP is way to low. I’ll pass, and two others owners in my two leagues deal with catching up at rb&wr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted July 31, 2023 9 hours ago, jrokh said: I don't know, seems like a bad teammate. I don’t really keep up with TEs, but this guy is never going to make it in the NFL acting like this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 102 Posted August 1, 2023 With Pacheco on the PUP list etc. to start the season, CEH might have sneaky value. They might miss JSS and Hardman more than they know this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted August 1, 2023 Agree about CEH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 1, 2023 CEH is definitely good value (though I’m sure he’ll climb up boards now), but let’s not forget he’s never amounted to much before. The only reason Pacheco (a 7th round pick) could even take the job was CEH wasn’t up to the task Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 10:56 AM, LaChup said: If Travis Kelce pans out, he could be a decent pick up. A late round flier at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: CEH is definitely good value (though I’m sure he’ll climb up boards now), but let’s not forget he’s never amounted to much before. The only reason Pacheco (a 7th round pick) could even take the job was CEH wasn’t up to the task So do you think his current adp is due to judgement of his previous work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, weepaws said: So do you think his current adp is due to judgement of his previous work? I think it’s mostly due to the fact that he’s a backup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: I think it’s mostly due to the fact that he’s a backup Due to his previous work, or is it because his coach simply doesn’t like him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted August 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, weepaws said: Due to his previous work, or is it because his coach simply doesn’t like him? I feel like CEH & Pacheco are pretty much the same guy, especially in that offense. Both are replaceable JAGS in my opinion. Neither one does anything great but they're just good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 981 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 8:27 PM, League Champion said: I feel like CEH & Pacheco are pretty much the same guy, especially in that offense. Both are replaceable JAGS in my opinion. Neither one does anything great but they're just good enough. Probably right. But Pacheco will get an opportunity to prove he's more than a jag. Clyde already blew his chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 6:27 PM, League Champion said: I feel like CEH & Pacheco are pretty much the same guy, especially in that offense. Both are replaceable JAGS in my opinion. Neither one does anything great but they're just good enough. well, this is the kind of offense where a JAG can put up decent numbers. but they are not the same guy. CEH is mostly a pass catcher. Pacheco is more a runner. and at 4.9 yards per carry hes not doing badly at that. I think there is definitely some upside there. 830 yards rushing and he was barely used in the first half of the season. I have to believe that with a little experience he should improve as time goes on. To that end, I think there is something there. if going zero RB in your draft, he is a nice candidate given where he is ranked in most publications (including fftoday) sure the injury thing is concerning but you cant argue the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted August 19, 2023 Sadly he is a must add if you go zero rb early, I would rather go after a rb , and a high profile wr, then rotate best available to avoid needing to draft Pacheco. I could draft him as a rb3-4 and not a rb1-2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 981 Posted August 19, 2023 43 minutes ago, weepaws said: I could draft him as a rb3-4 and not a rb1-2. Nobody's wants Pacheco as their rb 2. But everyone has to make sacrifice at some position. Ya can't have it all. The Rb 2 sacrifice results in Pacheco and his ilk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted September 4, 2023 They're good to go and they're taking it day by day are kind of conflicting statements. Maybe they're good and Reid forgot he was supposed to lie for a second? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted September 4, 2023 well, I got Toney for $2 in my auction league. at that price I think hes well worth the risk for a potential WR1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,010 Posted September 4, 2023 12 hours ago, nobody said: They're good to go and they're taking it day by day are kind of conflicting statements. Maybe they're good and Reid forgot he was supposed to lie for a second? Yeah why come out minutes later with somewhat conflicting info? If anything, doesn't sound like he'll miss much time at first, which is encouraging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
