Hardcore troubadour 14,940 Posted August 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: No, dumbass. https://www.gasbuddy.com/go/gas-prices-surge-as-heat-hits-refinery-output But our hard-working, God-loving oilfield workers are employed. Of course, you'd rather pay $1.50 a gallon and they be out of work, because it's all about you, and then you'd blame Biden for them being out of work. Oh. Thanks for showing my point about the strategic oil reserves was correct. Imagine we could use that if something happened, like a refinery outage? But we can’t. The mid terms were more important. What a moron. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,940 Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Can you read? Your link supports exactly what HT said. And you want to pay double or tripple in gas to employ oil workers. WTF is wrong with you. HTDS. It’s real. I own this fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: No, dumbass. https://www.gasbuddy.com/go/gas-prices-surge-as-heat-hits-refinery-output But our hard-working, God-loving oilfield workers are employed. Of course, you'd rather pay $1.50 a gallon and they be out of work, because it's all about you, and then you'd blame Biden for them being out of work. Wow. You are really stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted August 1, 2023 MAGAturd logic: I don't want to pay $3.25 a gallon. I don't want oilfield workers unemployed: I don't want our oil reserves depleted to offset high gas prices: MAGAturd just wants to . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: MAGAturd logic: I don't want to pay $3.25 a gallon. I don't want oilfield workers unemployed: I don't want our oil reserves depleted to offset high gas prices: MAGAturd just wants to . For the last 8 years....TRUMP!!! You should get a hobby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: No, dumbass. https://www.gasbuddy.com/go/gas-prices-surge-as-heat-hits-refinery-output But our hard-working, God-loving oilfield workers are employed. Of course, you'd rather pay $1.50 a gallon and they be out of work, because it's all about you, and then you'd blame Biden for them being out of work. This. Pimps playing chess, while morons like Hardcore struggle with Tic Tac Toe. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 Calling a politician a liar is redundant. Of course he is, just like pretty much all of them. Luckily for him, he proclaims to be a Democrat, so its all good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: Calling a politician a liar is redundant. Of course he is, just like pretty much all of them. Luckily for him, he proclaims to be a Democrat, so its all good. I think Trump is the most honest of all of them. That's what makes him a feelers hurting meanie. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,838 Posted August 1, 2023 15 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Sigh. Again, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO ANY OF THEM. We've known this for years. Nobody cares because it's not Trump. Remember Trump was impeached because he asked about this. NewGirl is correct. Nothing will happen to any of them... other than Trump. He'll probably get impeached again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: We've known this for years. Nobody cares because it's not Trump. Remember Trump was impeached because he asked about this. NewGirl is correct. Nothing will happen to any of them... other than Trump. He'll probably get impeached again. I do not believe this point is dwelled on enough yet. I always wondered why they reacted to virulently to something so insignificant.....now it makes sense. Trump was attempting to close in on what is more than likely corruption that extends past even the Bidens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I do not believe this point is dwelled on enough yet. I always wondered why they reacted to virulently to something so insignificant.....now it makes sense. Trump was attempting to close in on what is more than likely corruption that extends past even the Bidens. ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 Gotta laugh at the clowns here.... Archer testifies that Biden never talked business....BUT WE GOT HIM!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, zsasz said: Gotta laugh at the clowns here.... Archer testifies that Biden never talked business....BUT WE GOT HIM!!!!!!!! BIDEN VOTER 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, League Champion said: BIDEN VOTER OK? Nail him to the wall then. IF this is the BOMBSHELL!!!!! Y'all are claiming it to be...I'm sure we'll have a Joe Biden perp walk video coming up in the near future. Hell, if it's the END ALL BE ALL horrible thing you want people to think it is......I'd applaud the perp walk. We all know It ain't going to happen, Chewbacca..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, zsasz said: OK? Nail him to the wall then. IF this is the BOMBSHELL!!!!! Y'all are claiming it to be...I'm sure we'll have a Joe Biden perp walk video coming up in the near future. Hell, if it's the END ALL BE ALL horrible thing you want people to think it is......I'd applaud the perp walk. We all know It ain't going to happen, Chewbacca..... FULLY TRIGGERED BIDEN VOTER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, zsasz said: Gotta laugh at the clowns here.... Archer testifies that Biden never talked business....BUT WE GOT HIM!!!!!!!! Let's ponder this question. Joe Biden lied about his awareness and involvement with his sons business dealings. Why? Why would Joe seek to avoid being associated with his sons business actions? What would be the motivation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,964 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Let's ponder this question. Joe Biden lied about his awareness and involvement with his sons business dealings. Why? Why would Joe seek to avoid being associated with his sons business actions? What would be the motivation? You’d sure think any normal father would be proud of his son and interested in what his business affairs entail. Shouldn’t that be cool and exciting to hear about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,612 Posted August 1, 2023 A politician lying? Isn't that what they are supposed to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted August 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gladiators said: You’d sure think any normal father would be proud of his son and interested in what his business affairs entail. Shouldn’t that be cool and exciting to hear about? He should be very very proud of Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,097 Posted August 1, 2023 The gulf between what is actually known from the Archer interview and the 'facts and conclusions' by those in this thread are pretty vast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Gladiators said: You’d sure think any normal father would be proud of his son and interested in what his business affairs entail. Shouldn’t that be cool and exciting to hear about? Perhaps. But he clearly sought to portay his "involvement" in a way where he was "apart". Now, one could make the argument that knowing his son was involved in foreign deals Joe was simply seeking to ensure he was not observed in a compramising situation, that is fine.... And yet, the evidence on hand suggests he was rather well-engaged. So he could have been hiding it to avoid uhhmmm, "misperceptions". Lets not forget how Democrats insisted that Trump not keep his business connections to avoid this very thing......and yet here, no concern at all....hmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Let's ponder this question. Joe Biden lied about his awareness and involvement with his sons business dealings. Why? Why would Joe seek to avoid being associated with his sons business actions? What would be the motivation? Did he lie? Archer testified that Joe never talked business with Hunter's business partners; only casual conversation with those various people. If he's not aware of the business nature of Hunter's relationship with those people....is he lying? To be fair, I'd wager that Joe knew was flexing on Hunter's behalf by just walking into the situation;. The motivation for not being involved with Hunters business actions is that he knows what Hunter is; an immature,conniving, half a con-man, child of privilege; to whom Biden will give a certain amount of leniency to Hunter to use the "Biden" name...but who won't get directly into bed with him. Think Jason Robards and Tom Hulce in the Steve Martin movie Parenthood or Giovani Ribisi and his fathers relationship in the movie Boiler Room. Sucessful father has an idiot, half a conman son who he still loves and wants to help...to a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, zsasz said: Did he lie? Archer testified that Joe never talked business with Hunter's business partners; only casual conversation with those various people. If he's not aware of the business nature of Hunter's relationship with those people....is he lying? To be fair, I'd wager that Joe knew was flexing on Hunter's behalf by just walking into the situation;. The motivation for not being involved with Hunters business actions is that he knows what Hunter is; an immature,conniving, half a con-man, child of privilege; to whom Biden will give a certain amount of leniency to Hunter to use the "Biden" name...but who won't get directly into bed with him. Think Jason Robards and Tom Hulce in the Steve Martin movie Parenthood or Giovani Ribisi and his fathers relationship in the movie Boiler Room. Sucessful father has an idiot, half a conman son who he still loves and wants to help...to a point. I submit that he did, numerous times over the years. There was no reason to hide all this, unless Biden felt that it was wrong. He could have said all along that he was familiar with his sons business, had participated in calls etc. But he hid that......there was no reason to hide it, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, RLLD said: I submit that he did, numerous times over the years. There was no reason to hide all this, unless Biden felt that it was wrong. He could have said all along that he was familiar with his sons business, had participated in calls etc. But he hid that......there was no reason to hide it, right? But per Archer...he wasn't familiar with his sons business nor did he participate in business calls. He talked to guys about things that weren't related to business. If you have proof that Biden was engaged in talking business with Hunter Biden's business partners....then you shouldn't be talking to me right now. You should be running to D.C. ETA: Is Archer not credible? Do you think he's hiding something? Wouldn't it have made sense for Archer to come clean over the whole thing if there was something to come clean over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, zsasz said: But per Archer...he wasn't familiar with his sons business nor did he participate in business calls. He talked to guys about things that weren't related to business. If you have proof that Biden was engaged in talking business with Hunter Biden's business partners....then you shouldn't be talking to me right now. You should be running to D.C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, zsasz said: But per Archer...he wasn't familiar with his sons business nor did he participate in business calls. He talked to guys about things that weren't related to business. If you have proof that Biden was engaged in talking business with Hunter Biden's business partners....then you shouldn't be talking to me right now. You should be running to D.C. So Joe has steadfastly asserted for years that he knew nothing about his sons business, never spoke to him about his business etc.... And now we can see that he DID know about his business and was on the phone more than 20 times when Hunter was speaking to his business associates.... Therefore, Joe's earlier statements were lies. More recently his admin is reframing all this, apparently they knew what Archer was going to out him, so they changed how they represented it. Look, defend Biden all you want, of course. But I see enough information to want to know more. I want congress to treat this situation as if it were Trump, that is all I ask. I feel that Trump has faced the right amount of scruitiny, now do Biden. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, zsasz said: OK? Nail him to the wall then. IF this is the BOMBSHELL!!!!! Y'all are claiming it to be...I'm sure we'll have a Joe Biden perp walk video coming up in the near future. Hell, if it's the END ALL BE ALL horrible thing you want people to think it is......I'd applaud the perp walk. We all know It ain't going to happen, Chewbacca..... What ever you say Francie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 361 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: So Joe has steadfastly asserted for years that he knew nothing about his sons business, never spoke to him about his business etc.... And now we can see that he DID know about his business and was on the phone more than 20 times when Hunter was speaking to his business associates.... Therefore, Joe's earlier statements were lies. More recently his admin is reframing all this, apparently they knew what Archer was going to out him, so they changed how they represented it. Look, defend Biden all you want, of course. But I see enough information to want to know more. I want congress to treat this situation as if it were Trump, that is all I ask. I feel that Trump has faced the right amount of scruitiny, now do Biden. I don't really have a problem with Congress looking further into this. At the end of the day though, Archer's testimony isn't a good thing for the Republicans...as he explicitly says there's no talk of business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, zsasz said: I don't really have a problem with Congress looking further into this. At the end of the day though, Archer's testimony isn't a good thing for the Republicans...as he explicitly says there's no talk of business. Wrong. It proves Biden has been lying all these years. And he called into the business meeting on speaker phone just to say hi? "Hey everyone it's been a couple weeks, just want to say hi, love you Hunter, bye!" I have lake front property to sell morons like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, zsasz said: I don't really have a problem with Congress looking further into this. At the end of the day though, Archer's testimony isn't a good thing for the Republicans...as he explicitly says there's no talk of business. Ok, I asserted before he ever sat with them that this would be the case, so looks like I predicted this one as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,097 Posted August 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: So Joe has steadfastly asserted for years that he knew nothing about his sons business, never spoke to him about his business etc.... And now we can see that he DID know about his business and was on the phone more than 20 times when Hunter was speaking to his business associates.... Therefore, Joe's earlier statements were lies. More recently his admin is reframing all this, apparently they knew what Archer was going to out him, so they changed how they represented it. Look, defend Biden all you want, of course. But I see enough information to want to know more. I want congress to treat this situation as if it were Trump, that is all I ask. I feel that Trump has faced the right amount of scruitiny, now do Biden. The information from Archer was that Joe/Hunter called each other frequently after Beau's death. Hunter(while others were in the room) put Joe on speaker, but the oonversations were "niceties". Quote Reps. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) and Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) confirmed Archer’s remarks to lawmakers during a closed-door interview. According to Hunter Biden's former longtime business partner, the phone calls happened roughly 20 times over 10 years. “Hunter spoke to his father every day, and approximately 20 times over the course of a 10-year relationship, Hunter may have put his father on the phone with any number of different people. And they never once spoke about any business dealings. … It was all casual conversation, niceties, the weather, what’s going on,” Goldman told reporters. So where are the lies that he talked about his businesses? They aren't there from any reporting so far - you and others are completely spinning this out of whole cloth. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: The information from Archer was that Joe/Hunter called each other frequently after Beau's death. Hunter(while others were in the room) put Joe on speaker, but the oonversations were "niceties". So where are the lies that he talked about his businesses? They aren't there from any reporting so far - you and others are completely spinning this out of whole cloth. I think you are being manipulated and you do not even realize it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,097 Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think you are being manipulated and you do not even realize it. Well that was easy, you have no proof or evidence to support your claims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted August 1, 2023 Suppose I accept the premise of this thread without question or doubt. Shouldn’t I still vote for Joe Biden? His opponent lies more than Joe does, is more corrupt than Joe is, is far less competent, and favors policies I strongly disagree with. Given the choice between these two guys I would still eagerly vote for Joe Biden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Well that was easy, you have no proof or evidence to support your claims. When you are in a meeting with nefarious people paying you millions of dollars for no reason, is it normal behavior to put your Vice President father on speaker phone when you call him to talk about the weather or, would most people say excuse me I have to go call my father to talk about the weather right at the moment we are discussing the millions you’re paying me. I’ll be right back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Suppose I accept the premise of this thread without question or doubt. Shouldn’t I still vote for Joe Biden? His opponent lies more than Joe does, is more corrupt than Joe is, is far less competent, and favors policies I strongly disagree with. Given the choice between these two guys I would still eagerly vote for Joe Biden. Well, you have already proven you are a liberal idiot. Why do you need to confirm it yet again with that mess of a statement? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites