The Bears have the worst coaching I've ever seen.

[weepaws 2,986]

2 hours ago, purplengold47 said:

BINGO! called it!

So the Bears might have defeated KC if it wasn’t because of that coach? 

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

21 hours ago, weepaws said:

So the Bears might have defeated KC if it wasn’t because of that coach? 

some early Fields QB drafters upset with their worthless investment early on this season....  

Caleb Williams would look good in a Bears uniform.... 

[LaChup 212]

I've always said, if you can't be good, you might as well suck. That way you can still be the best at something.

[seafoam1 2,492]

THAT, was awesome!! 

Up by 21 in the 4th quarter to what some consider the worst team in football, and they lose! This is too good.

[Gepetto 1,186]

The Bears tied 28 - 28 could have kicked a short field goal, but instead went for it on 4th and failed. Broncos went down and kicked a field goal. Justin Fields best game (335 yards passing and 4 passing TDs) but he threw an interception at midfield to end the game.

[seafoam1 2,492]

52 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

The Bears tied 28 - 28 could have kicked a short field goal, but instead went for it on 4th and failed. Broncos went down and kicked a field goal. Justin Fields best game (335 yards passing and 4 passing TDs) but he threw an interception at midfield to end the game.

And they go to Washington on Thursday. Let's see if Fields can repeat that performance. Cause he's going to have to start doing that against decent teams if he wants to keep a job. The Bears should sell high this week. 

[weepaws 2,986]

[Chickie 73]

8 hours ago, plasma george said:

This could be ugly for Raiders

anyone benching Adams ?  For who ?

I’m really thinking of starting Nacua with a very nice matchup 

 

 

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

And they go to Washington on Thursday. Let's see if Fields can repeat that performance. Cause he's going to have to start doing that against decent teams if he wants to keep a job. The Bears should sell high this week. 

Fields on a short week isn’t promising.

[Ray_T 716]

2 hours ago, Gepetto said:

The Bears tied 28 - 28 could have kicked a short field goal, but instead went for it on 4th and failed. Broncos went down and kicked a field goal. Justin Fields best game (335 yards passing and 4 passing TDs) but he threw an interception at midfield to end the game.

Ouch.   Obviously the Stellar Denver D played a role in this passing Bonanza.

[seafoam1 2,492]

31 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

Ouch.   Obviously the Stellar Denver D played a role in this passing Bonanza.

Same for that incredible pass rush they been showing off this year. Just ask Tua, he can attest. 

[DocNiner 57]

On 9/18/2023 at 9:08 AM, seafoam1 said:

It's just surreal. They will not win a game this year. They have better players yet are worse than last year. 

Fields is not getting an extension. He better not. He looks like crap for all the hype about his "incredible work ethic". Dude can't drop back in the pocket any quicker than current day Joe Namath could. 

Chase Claypool came out and said after the game that he doesn't know the plays. He doesn't know if it's a run play or pass play on any given down. 

Yesterday 1 safety was ill and couldn't take the full load, the other got hurt and was taken out. No one can generate any pass rush.

They have a stud RB in Roschon Johnson but the only handed the ball off to him 4 times for 32 yards. Their other stud player is DJ Moore but only targeted him 7 times for 6 grabs while they target Chase focking Claypool 8 times for 3 whole catches.

They spent $30 million on a right guard who can't get on the field. Their left OT is worse this year than he was last year. Regression is the name of the coaching tactics it seems. 

They have some kind of ability to put together the best opening drives of the game for scores but then can't do shlt for the rest of the game.

If they get a top 2 pick next year they will take a QB and turn him into Justin Fields. There is nothing to look forward to with this team. Nothing.

So, I agree with a lot you've said and I wanted to ask a.question. I have a chance to start the Washington Commandets Defense this week at home against the Bears. I also have the Dallas defense but don't want to start them against my 49ers this Sjnday night. How do you think the Commandets defense will do against the Bears this Sunday? I know Fields is talented and can definitely run the ball when plays break down. He did have 4 tds against the Broncos last week but the Vears lost that one. Yeah I get that the Broncos defense socks right now after giving up 70 points to the 'Phil's and Washington was able to best Denver in week 1. The Commanders do have some good players on defense and gave Philly all they wanted last week only to lose on a FG in overtime. Will that loss to Philly piss off the Washington defense and will they come out this Thursday night and take that chip out on the Bears offense? I appreciate your input. Thanks.

[seafoam1 2,492]

30 minutes ago, DocNiner said:

So, I agree with a lot you've said and I wanted to ask a.question. I have a chance to start the Washington Commandets Defense this week at home against the Bears. I also have the Dallas defense but don't want to start them against my 49ers this Sjnday night. How do you think the Commandets defense will do against the Bears this Sunday? I know Fields is talented and can definitely run the ball when plays break down. He did have 4 tds against the Broncos last week but the Vears lost that one. Yeah I get that the Broncos defense socks right now after giving up 70 points to the 'Phil's and Washington was able to best Denver in week 1. The Commanders do have some good players on defense and gave Philly all they wanted last week only to lose on a FG in overtime. Will that loss to Philly piss off the Washington defense and will they come out this Thursday night and take that chip out on the Bears offense? I appreciate your input. Thanks.

Fields and that offense have had a solid 3 quarters of offensive football (all in one game), over the last 14 games they played. And it was against what many consider the worst team in the league. Definitely the worst defense.

Both Dallas and San Fran are good teams. But San Fran is #2 in total yards per game so far this year. 

Defense is always a crapshoot, but, man, ya gotta go with Washington don't you? They are the play over any defense going against McCaffrey, Aiyuk, Kittle, Samuel....

Like I said and you know it too, defense is the biggest crapshoot next to kickers, but I would not in second consider playing Dallas this week over Washington. Make the Bears really prove it first. And if they do prove it, then that's just fantasy football for you. All you can do put out the best odds based on history of the team/player and hope for the best. 

The Bears are falling apart at the seams after that loss. Claypool has been told to stay home on game day again this Thursday, and the Bears had conflicting stories from the coach, the GM, and one of the players. They are a mess. 

And if the Bears score on the first drive, that's their M.O. Also their M.O. is that's about it for the game. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

The only thing I'll enjoy about the Bears this year is either Fields starts showing he is an elite passer, or the Bears lose all 17 games.

[kilroy69 1,157]

45 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

The only thing I'll enjoy about the Bears this year is either Fields starts showing he is an elite passer, or the Bears lose all 17 games.

I think the latter is more likely. Fields is not an elite passer. He just had the best of the best surrounding him in college. He would be an awesome backup. Someone who could come in and really mess with defenders with his speed when they were geared up for a pocket passer. Other than that he is not a big boy qb.  All that being said I hope they sign him to a massive contract as a lions fan. I want to see everyone else in the division struggle

 

 

[seafoam1 2,492]

56 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I think the latter is more likely. Fields is not an elite passer. He just had the best of the best surrounding him in college. He would be an awesome backup. Someone who could come in and really mess with defenders with his speed when they were geared up for a pocket passer. Other than that he is not a big boy qb.  All that being said I hope they sign him to a massive contract as a lions fan. I want to see everyone else in the division struggle

 

 

If he doesn't come through this year, no chance they give him a massive contract. That has been the narrative all of last year leading into this one. Can he do it, or not. Very clear cut. If he continues to not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds (which he didn't have to in the Denver game), then he won't get the contract. I bet there are a couple coaches in this league that would be able to make a big success out of him with high quality coaching and game planning. He's really talented, just can't process quick enough or read defenses at the line of scrimmage all that well. And I'm sure there are plenty other coaches with the arrogance that think they can make this dude a star, so maybe the Bears can actually get something for him if he continues down the same road he's been on the past year with the Bears.

[kilroy69 1,157]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

If he doesn't come through this year, no chance they give him a massive contract. That has been the narrative all of last year leading into this one. Can he do it, or not. Very clear cut. If he continues to not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds (which he didn't have to in the Denver game), then he won't get the contract. I bet there are a couple coaches in this league that would be able to make a big success out of him with high quality coaching and game planning. He's really talented, just can't process quick enough or read defenses at the line of scrimmage all that well. And I'm sure there are plenty other coaches with the arrogance that think they can make this dude a star, so maybe the Bears can actually get something for him if he continues down the same road he's been on the past year with the Bears.

Get something for him? How? This is the last year of his rookie contract. He is not going to get the 5th year extension. His value depends on him flipping the switch which I just can not see.  The only team he would be successful on is the ravens. The Ravens have a team set up for a crappy qb. They are going to run the ball 600 times a year between 4 people and use the short passing attack with a top flight TE. Not a lot of teams out there can do that. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

28 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Get something for him? How? This is the last year of his rookie contract. He is not going to get the 5th year extension. His value depends on him flipping the switch which I just can not see.  The only team he would be successful on is the ravens. The Ravens have a team set up for a crappy qb. They are going to run the ball 600 times a year between 4 people and use the short passing attack with a top flight TE. Not a lot of teams out there can do that. 

I guess we'll see. I bet if not on the Bears, he'll be a starting QB somewhere else next year. He won't be a back up. 

[kilroy69 1,157]

12 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I guess we'll see. I bet if not on the Bears, he'll be a starting QB somewhere else next year. He won't be a back up. 

It is so hard for me to believe that any NFL team would give him a chance as a starter unless he plays like he did against the Broncos from here on out. Some people will look at the broncos game and point to that as to what he could potentially do. Problem is he is not going to be able to play against the worst defense in the league each week. One that may be historically bad. The game against the broncos was just like a game for him against ohio state.  We can revisit this when the season starts next year of course but my bet is he has to settle for a backup contract that will still pay him like 5-6 million a year. More than most RBs make and still in the league. 

 

The thing is that until proven otherwise ohio state Qbs can not be counted on to produce in the NFL. My suspicion is that the level of competition they face each year is just not good enough to force their qbs to advance past what amounts to go routes and reading basic coverages.  Once they move on to the NFL they start to face athletes that are as fast as they are and coverages they never dreamed of seeing. All with having to get the ball out in under 3 seconds. Something they likely never had to do at Ohio state because the teams they play are typically not getting to the QB. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

6 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

It is so hard for me to believe that any NFL team would give him a chance as a starter unless he plays like he did against the Broncos from hear on out. Some people will look at the broncos game and point to that as to what he could potentially do. Problem is he is not going to be able to play against the worst defense in the league each week. One that may be historically bad. The game against the broncos was just like a game for him against ohio state.  We can revisit this when the season starts next year of course but my bet is he has to settle for a backup contract that will still pay him like 5-6 million a year. More than most RBs make and still in the league. 

 

The thing is that until proven otherwise ohio state Qbs can not be counted on to produce in the NFL. My suspicion is that the level of competition they face each year is just not good enough to force their qbs to advance past what amounts to go routes and reading basic coverages.  Once they move on to the NFL they start to face athletes that are as fast as they are and coverages they never dreamed of seeing. All with having to get the ball out in under 3 seconds. Something they likely never had to do at Ohio state because the teams they play are typically not getting to the QB. 

Stroud is breaking that mold in his rookie year.

[kilroy69 1,157]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Stroud is breaking that mold in his rookie year.

He may be the outlier. He seems to be able to read coverage. I hope he does well. 

[Chickie 73]

Not only their coaching staff but apparently their front office. They paid a #2 (33rd pick) in the 2023 draft for Claypool and now the school of thought is an outright release. Never majored in business but it sure looks like a piss poor investment. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

16 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

Get something for him? How? This is the last year of his rookie contract. He is not going to get the 5th year extension. His value depends on him flipping the switch which I just can not see.  The only team he would be successful on is the ravens. The Ravens have a team set up for a crappy qb. They are going to run the ball 600 times a year between 4 people and use the short passing attack with a top flight TE. Not a lot of teams out there can do that. 

How did the 49ers get a 4th round pick for Trey Lance after he was beat out by Sam Darnold for the focking backup role? Fields and him were both drafted in the 2021 draft. So you really think no one would take a chance on Fields if he were on the trade block? 

 

[kilroy69 1,157]

7 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

How did the 49ers get a 4th round pick for Trey Lance after he was beat out by Sam Darnold for the focking backup role? Fields and him were both drafted in the 2021 draft. So you really think no one would take a chance on Fields if he were on the trade block? 

 

Not as a starter. Not at all. Fields has shown what he is. A one trick pony. He is fast. Which is great if you are a RB. As a QB he is going to have to read coverages and make the throw. in 15 games last year he was held to UNDER 200 yards passing in 13 games. He has one 300 yard passing game IN HIS CAREER and it is against what may be the worst defense ever. In 3 of his 4 this year he had yet to go over 216 yards passing till the broncos game. Who is going to trade for that?   If they do pick him up off waivers (no one is trading for a qb on his 4th year who the team is not going to pick up his 5th year option. No one.) he certainly will not start. This year is the end of Justin Fields days as the primary starter. He may come in as the starter for an injured QB but he will never be a starter again. There is always going to be room for a fast QB as a backup so he will likely have a job till his speed starts to sap from hits or age but he is going to be playing for a few million a year. Not starters money.

As a point of reference,  It is likely that Brock Purdy will come close to having more career passing yards through this year  than fields will in his entire career as a starter.  Fields has 31 starts for 4,973 yards and 9 wins.   Purdy has 10 starts for 2,393 yards with 9 wins.  When you compare Fields to other QBs he comes in at the back end of the league and would not even be a starter at this point if not for the fact the cupboard is bare in in Chicago. There IS no other option. The bears leadership backed themselves into bad draft pick. The only thing they can do to get out of it is NOT sign him to a long term deal like the giants did with jones 

 

To be sure a team WILL sign him as a backup. Likely Baltimore where he would fit in perfectly. The Falcons could bring him in as a backup but he would want more than the starter gets. Ridder is only on a 5 mil dollar 4 year deal so the are likely to keep trying to develop him. There is always a QB coach out there that thinks he is the QB whisperer and will want to take him on to play with like a toy. Look at Josh Rosen , He got bounced around like a tennis ball. The idea that Fields is going to hold any value is not realistic based on his career performance. 

 

But look at the bright side. You will get the number one pick next year and you never employed Matt Patricia as a coach. 

[Ray_T 716]

22 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

He may be the outlier. He seems to be able to read coverage. I hope he does well. 

well, it also makes me wonder how much of this is QB play and how much is coaching.

I'm sure it is some combination of the two.  at times he showed flashes of looking like a player only to regress and then progress and regress again.

its like every time the bring in a new OC they have to start from square one with him.

[jrokh 596]

12 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

well, it also makes me wonder how much of this is QB play and how much is coaching.

Agreed Ray. You put Fields in SF and Purdy in Chicago and things would look a whole lot different...

[seafoam1 2,492]

2 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

Not as a starter. Not at all. Fields has shown what he is. A one trick pony. He is fast. Which is great if you are a RB. As a QB he is going to have to read coverages and make the throw. in 15 games last year he was held to UNDER 200 yards passing in 13 games. He has one 300 yard passing game IN HIS CAREER and it is against what may be the worst defense ever. In 3 of his 4 this year he had yet to go over 216 yards passing till the broncos game. Who is going to trade for that?   If they do pick him up off waivers (no one is trading for a qb on his 4th year who the team is not going to pick up his 5th year option. No one.) he certainly will not start. This year is the end of Justin Fields days as the primary starter. He may come in as the starter for an injured QB but he will never be a starter again. There is always going to be room for a fast QB as a backup so he will likely have a job till his speed starts to sap from hits or age but he is going to be playing for a few million a year. Not starters money.

As a point of reference,  It is likely that Brock Purdy will come close to having more career passing yards through this year  than fields will in his entire career as a starter.  Fields has 31 starts for 4,973 yards and 9 wins.   Purdy has 10 starts for 2,393 yards with 9 wins.  When you compare Fields to other QBs he comes in at the back end of the league and would not even be a starter at this point if not for the fact the cupboard is bare in in Chicago. There IS no other option. The bears leadership backed themselves into bad draft pick. The only thing they can do to get out of it is NOT sign him to a long term deal like the giants did with jones 

 

To be sure a team WILL sign him as a backup. Likely Baltimore where he would fit in perfectly. The Falcons could bring him in as a backup but he would want more than the starter gets. Ridder is only on a 5 mil dollar 4 year deal so the are likely to keep trying to develop him. There is always a QB coach out there that thinks he is the QB whisperer and will want to take him on to play with like a toy. Look at Josh Rosen , He got bounced around like a tennis ball. The idea that Fields is going to hold any value is not realistic based on his career performance. 

 

But look at the bright side. You will get the number one pick next year and you never employed Matt Patricia as a coach. 

You mentioned that no team would give up any draft capital for him. Yet Lance drew a 4th rounder and he isn't as good as Fields. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

I think Sam Fran would give their collective left nut for Fields. 

[kilroy69 1,157]

10 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You mentioned that no team would give up any draft capital for him. Yet Lance drew a 4th rounder and he isn't as good as Fields. 

Lance is not in the last year of his rookie contract which fields would be. The bears may pick up his 5th year option but only as a fill in for the Qb they are going to draft this year.  It would make literally no sense for any team to trade for Fields knowing that he is A. not a good QB and B. the bears are going to have to move on from him either this year or next year with his progress. 

Look. I feel you. You want to get SOME type of return for a QB that will end up being someone's backup. It is just not going to happen. The BEST thing that could come from this is the bears just cutting ties with him. Not sinking any more money into a lost cause and not being forced into making the same mistake the giants made. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

6 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Lance is not in the last year of his rookie contract which fields would be. The bears may pick up his 5th year option but only as a fill in for the Qb they are going to draft this year.  It would make literally no sense for any team to trade for Fields knowing that he is A. not a good QB and B. the bears are going to have to move on from him either this year or next year with his progress. 

Look. I feel you. You want to get SOME type of return for a QB that will end up being someone's backup. It is just not going to happen. The BEST thing that could come from this is the bears just cutting ties with him. Not sinking any more money into a lost cause and not being forced into making the same mistake the giants made. 

I don't really care if the Bears don't win a game unless Fields starts throwing for 250+ consistently. I only want one or the other. Fields to prove to be really good, or the Bears to tank. 

My only comment on it is that I do think the Bears would get at least something mid round for him if they put him on the trade block right now. 

[Ray_T 716]

46 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You mentioned that no team would give up any draft capital for him. Yet Lance drew a 4th rounder and he isn't as good as Fields. 

I think when he said nobody will give them anything for him.... I think he meant relative to the price they initially paid for him

if they trade him for a 4th round pick, thats the price you pay for a backup QB or a washed up #1 QB (which is likely what hed be treated as in the event of a trade)

while its not nothing, its also not a lot.

[Ray_T 716]

16 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I don't really care if the Bears don't win a game unless Fields starts throwing for 250+ consistently. I only want one or the other. Fields to prove to be really good, or the Bears to tank. 

My only comment on it is that I do think the Bears would get at least something mid round for him if they put him on the trade block right now. 

honestly, his value has already depreciated.  I dont see them getting a whole lot less for him at the end of the season as compared to today.   so might as well hold and see if he can be the player they hope he can be.

like you said, if he cant cut it, they will inevitably get a high draft pick and select another QB.

This is the way.

[seafoam1 2,492]

37 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

honestly, his value has already depreciated.  I dont see them getting a whole lot less for him at the end of the season as compared to today.   so might as well hold and see if he can be the player they hope he can be.

like you said, if he cant cut it, they will inevitably get a high draft pick and select another QB.

This is the way.

Honestly, if Fields is still being Fields in a couple weeks, I would love to see them give Bagant a shot at a game or two. The big news on that guy is his ability to process the defense before the snap of the ball. They did a big piece on him along with an interview and some video of the guy and he is sharp as a tack. 

And I get it, when your QB is not playing well everyone's favorite player is the backup QB, but that said, this guy showed it off first in practice this summer, then in preseason he looked good enough to move up into the #1 backup role, and now his chance to see what he can do in a real game would intrigue me. Hell, Tony Romo was an UDFA if I remember correctly. Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant, and there were others. Why not this guy if Fields continues to falter and be a slow processor of defenses? 

[Ray_T 716]

2 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Honestly, if Fields is still being Fields in a couple weeks, I would love to see them give Bagant a shot at a game or two. The big news on that guy is his ability to process the defense before the snap of the ball. They did a big piece on him along with an interview and some video of the guy and he is sharp as a tack. 

I am gonna check out his scouting report.  if what you say is true this feature alone makes him likely better than a chunk of starters currently playing.   Knowing what the defese is doing is half the battle.   but that isnt everything.   Leftwich was a QB who famously was good in this way but his super slow throwing motion largely negated any advantage he got from this.    but it is one of the talents that the elite QB's all seem to have.

guys like Manning or Brady knew what the defense was doing maybe even before the defense did.     it didnt seem to matter what the defense did.   they'd fake the blitz then they'd fake the fake and then fake themselves out.   fun to watch those guys play against top defenses and still lite them up anyways.

anyhow that said, if this kid is good in that way I'm surprised they have not already given him a shot.   he could be the next Brady.

[seafoam1 2,492]

8 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

I am gonna check out his scouting report.  if what you say is true this feature alone makes him likely better than a chunk of starters currently playing.   Knowing what the defese is doing is half the battle.   but that isnt everything.   Leftwich was a QB who famously was good in this way but his super slow throwing motion largely negated any advantage he got from this.    but it is one of the talents that the elite QB's all seem to have.

guys like Manning or Brady knew what the defense was doing maybe even before the defense did.     it didnt seem to matter what the defense did.   they'd fake the blitz then they'd fake the fake and then fake themselves out.   fun to watch those guys play against top defenses and still lite them up anyways.

anyhow that said, if this kid is good in that way I'm surprised they have not already given him a shot.   he could be the next Brady.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the guy. 

[Ray_T 716]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the guy. 

I will check his scouting reports and see if I can find some game tape on him and I'll let you know.

problem with game tape is its only as good as the person putting it together.   some people will conveniently not put in the tape that contradicts what they are saying about the guy and can taint the results a bit.

[seafoam1 2,492]

1 minute ago, Ray_T said:

I will check his scouting reports and see if I can find some game tape on him and I'll let you know.

problem with game tape is its only as good as the person putting it together.   some people will conveniently not put in the tape that contradicts what they are saying about the guy and can taint the results a bit.

True. It's like audition videos almost. 

[seafoam1 2,492]

23 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

I will check his scouting reports and see if I can find some game tape on him and I'll let you know.

problem with game tape is its only as good as the person putting it together.   some people will conveniently not put in the tape that contradicts what they are saying about the guy and can taint the results a bit.

Here's hs first preseason game with comments. Both the good and bad. You also have to remember how bad the Bears are when watching. Dude has a quick release. 

Just from preseason the one thing I see that he has that Fields doesn't is he gets through his progressions quickly.

 

[Ray_T 716]

impressive.   and this kid wasnt drafted at all?

I'm guessing thats because of where he played college but hes shown more on that tape than what I've seen on most of the backup QB's in the league.

I saw the ability to throw his WR open, I saw going to the checkdown and throwing the ball away to avoid the pick/sack.

sure there was one or two bad throws in there but you will get that even with a guy drafted in the first round.

I see your point.   Kid has some moxie.  I'll check out the scouting report to see what that says but I can see the bears giving this kid a shot if things go sideways.   if they dont, they should.

[ZeroTolerance 583]

Rather than starting another Bears thread...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38577860/-butkus-hall-fame-linebacker-chicago-bears-dies

 

Butkus, arguably the fiercest Monster of the Midway, has died at age 80, the team announced Thursday.

Butkus became a Chicago Bears legend and Pro Football Hall of Famer in his nine-year career, which started in 1965. The middle linebacker was a vicious tackler whose sense of intimidation put some players on their heels before the ball was even snapped.

In a statement released through the Bears, Butkus' family said he "died peacefully in his sleep overnight" at his home in Malibu, California.

[josh wiley 30]

Fields will roll tonight because no one thinks he will. Very scientific of me