At 13 Baltimore City high schools, zero students tested proficient on 2023 state math exam

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The latest round of state test results is raising alarm in Baltimore City Schools. Project Baltimore found that 40% of Baltimore City high schools, where the state exam was given, did not have any students score proficient in math. Not one student.

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Last school year, Baltimore City Schools received $1.6 billion from taxpayers, the most ever. The district also received $799 million in Covid relief funding from the federal government. And still, not a single student tested at 13 City high schools scored proficient on the state math test.

“So, it's not a funding issue. We're getting plenty of funding,” said Rodriguez.“I don't think money is the issue. I think accountability is the issue.”

So Rodriguez is correct, but perhaps not exactly in the manner intended.  They are putting plenty of money into the system, the people teaching and leading it are working hard and trying their best......but the kids are not putting in the effort. It's just that simple.  These kids are not stupid, they are not incapable.....they are focking lazy....   So these people will assiduously avoid the problem at all costs.... rather than call out the fockin malaise toward education in the city....they will pretend it is anything else.....and THAT is why this continues...and gets worse.

These families are broken, these communities are then by extension also broken....when you fix the home you fix the kid....

 

 

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

So after this came out a few years ago, it's not surprising that there has been ZERO improvements.

[thegeneral 3,214]

Sad and embarrassing. A nation of dopes and getting dumber. 

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Sad and embarrassing. A nation of dopes and getting dumber. 

But completely fixable.   We cannot fix them in school, that is not the move, it has to be at home.  We fix that and the rest falls neatly into place. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

But completely fixable.   We cannot fix them in school, that is not the move, it has to be at home.  We fix that and the rest falls neatly into place. 

I mean anything is fixable in theory but we got a lot of problems. Also a lot of great stuff here but there are some serious issues building that I don’t see getting fixed. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I mean anything is fixable in theory but we got a lot of problems. Also a lot of great stuff here but there are some serious issues building that I don’t see getting fixed. 

Agreed.  They won't get fixed because that would be racist and we can't discuss how to fix them.

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I mean anything is fixable in theory but we got a lot of problems. Also a lot of great stuff here but there are some serious issues building that I don’t see getting fixed. 

In order to fix this problem, we might have to hurt some feelings.  We may have to admit that the problem, even though it might feed a "trope", is centered on the people and their behaviors.   There are some hard truths to be discussed, frankly and completely...and yes the community will have to accept some level of culpability....

Once we can discuss the problem frankly, change and improvement is possible.

[BuckSwope 654]

Easy fix - lower the standards so they all pass.   America!! 

[BuckSwope 654]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

But completely fixable.   We cannot fix them in school, that is not the move, it has to be at home.  We fix that and the rest falls neatly into place. 

Yes/no.   Sorry, but for the kids in school right now, we can't educate their parent or make them care.   It's an important part of the equation for sure, but I tire of that being the only solution presented on the right.    

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Thirteen, why that's almost a dozen percentagrams.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

4 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Yes/no.   Sorry, but for the kids in school right now, we can't educate their parent or make them care.   It's an important part of the equation for sure, but I tire of that being the only solution presented on the right.    

The best way to solve a problem is to solve it at it's inception.  So yes, that is the best way to handle it.  It's why leftist's tire of it.

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

Actually, it was at 22 Baltimore schools, the article was written by a Baltimore H.S. graduate.   

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The best way to solve a problem is to solve it at it's inception.  So yes, that is the best way to handle it.  It's why leftist's tire of it.

Ok, so then explain it to me what you are specifically wanting to be done about the family, and how will that affect the children in school currently?  

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Ok, so then explain it to me what you are specifically wanting to be done about the family, and how will that affect the children in school currently?  

 

Parents need to be talked to by the elected officials and by the schools and tell them that they need to be more involved in their child's education.  Why wouldn't parents listen to them?  Their ears are in full operation when they're told that they're oppressed.  Their ears are in full operation when they're told "the system is against them".  Why wouldn't they listen when their told by those same people to make sure their kids are doing their school work?

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19 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Easy fix - lower the standards so they all pass.   America!! Equity! 

 FYP for accuracy. 

[MDC 7,427]

12 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The best way to solve a problem is to solve it at it's inception.  So yes, that is the best way to handle it.  It's why leftist's tire of it.

I tire of these conversations because they’re always started by suburbanites who only give a shiit if it allows them to make a partisan point. Same with gun violence, drugs and every other urban issue.

[BuckSwope 654]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Parents need to be talked to by the elected officials and by the schools and tell them that they need to be more involved in their child's education.  Why wouldn't parents listen to them?  Their ears are in full operation when they're told that they're oppressed.  Their ears are in full operation when they're told "the system is against them".  Why wouldn't they listen when their told by those same people to make sure their kids are doing their school work?

Because many parents don't care, don't have the ability to help, etc.  That's a huge reason you are seeing the results you currently are.    So your solution is to what, have school officials go door to door and ask pretty please pay attention to your kids education?      

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

I tire of these conversations because they’re always started by suburbanites who only give a shiit if it allows them to make a partisan point. Same with gun violence, drugs and every other urban issue.

It's the "I can do it, why can't everybody else??!!" mentality too many conservatives have.     

 

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5 minutes ago, DonS said:

 FYP for accuracy. 

Largely the same thing now.  

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Largely the same thing now.  

Sad but true.

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7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Because many parents don't care, don't have the ability to help, etc.  That's a huge reason you are seeing the results you currently are.    So your solution is to what, have school officials go door to door and ask pretty please pay attention to your kids education?      

So you're saying it's a culture thing?

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The parents are as stupid as the kids. The only way to fix it is to stop the losers from having  kids. Good luck with that. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

This is the Republican governor of Virginia's fault.

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

I tire of these conversations because they’re always started by suburbanites who only give a shiit if it allows them to make a partisan point. Same with gun violence, drugs and every other urban issue.

Of course you tire of these conversations.  It's because it's the answer you refuse to look at because it proves your beliefs wrong, it other words, it's a partisan point.  Ironic, isn't it?

[BuckSwope 654]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

So you're saying it's a culture thing?

Yes - poor, uneducated parents largely fall behind on providing kids with the foundation to care about their education.   Most are uninvolved for a variety of reasons.   I don't believe asking them nicely will largely change the situation for their children.  

So, you are saying it's a race thing? 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Wait a minute.   Most funding ever? A billion and a half?  So people can't use the excuse that education isn't a priority and urban schools are behind the 8 ball? 

Come out to the rural communities and see how much funding they get.  Yet they can read.  

These urban schools get all the money.  My tax dollars clear across the state mostly go down to NYC.  

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Wait a minute.   Most funding ever? A billion and a half?  So people can't use the excuse that education isn't a priority and urban schools are behind the 8 ball? 

Come out to the rural communities and see how much funding they get.  Yet they can read.  

These urban schools get all the money.  My tax dollars clear across the state mostly go down to NYC.  

I would wager that much of that money isn't going to direct education of the kids.   I would also love to see where what all that money went to. 

More armed security guards and bulletproof windows?   

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10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Of course you tire of these conversations.  It's because it's the answer you refuse to look at because it proves your beliefs wrong, it other words, it's a partisan point.  Ironic, isn't it?

You have no idea what my opinions are on this issue, but you tipped your hand immediately in this thread, Sparky.  

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Make it a rule for recieving AFDC that aid will be curtailed unless the kids qualifying the household for aid are enrolled in scholl and maintaining a 2.2 graqdpoint average in core subjects and they are on path to graduate in a timely fashion.

 

AFDC, easy as 1, 2, 4, 6. Come on, sing it with me!

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36 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Yes/no.   Sorry, but for the kids in school right now, we can't educate their parent or make them care.   It's an important part of the equation for sure, but I tire of that being the only solution presented on the right.    

Fixing adults who have been subsumed already is an entirely different problem to attack.

What I am asserting is that we need to catch it now, and that means providing some services to families as soon as possible. We have to stem the tide, deal with the problems we have allowed to foment, and also help the people who have suffered within a sick culture. 

All three can and should be dealt with, but unless we can start admitting some hard truths, it really wont matter what we do. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

4 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

It's the "I can do it, why can't everybody else??!!" mentality too many conservatives have.     

 

What's wrong with that mentality? Taking personal responsibility actually works in places that implement it.

Why is Baltimore the conservative's fault? Need I point out that Baltimore schools are 100% run by liberals and their teachers' union allies. If this is systemic racism, the left has controlled Baltimore since the beginning of the republic. They're solving imaginary problems.  Baltimore is 100% your fault, 0% ours. Don't throw it on our plate.

[BuckSwope 654]

Just now, Voltaire said:

What's wrong with that mentality? Personal responsibility actually works in places that implement it.

Why is Baltimore too is the conservative's fault? Need I point out that Baltimore schools are 100% run by liberals and their teachers' union allies. If this is systemic racism, the left has controlled Baltimore since the beginning of the republic.  This is 100% your fault, 0% ours, don't throw it on our plate.

IMO it often comes with a lack of empathy.    

I said nothing for personal responsibility.  I am all for that.   Notice I said nothing about it being the fault of Rs or Ds, or said a thing about systemic racism.   That's on you.  

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Just now, BuckSwope said:

I would wager that much of that money isn't going to direct education of the kids.   I would also love to see where what all that money went to. 

More armed security guards and bulletproof windows?   

Where does the fraction of funding that rural school get in comparison go?  My school growing up was a dump.  Mid 2000s and basically all of our stuff was still there from the 70s and 80s.  Yet we had good people in the community that gave a shlt so we didn't end up too bad. 

Cities hardly have those people.   They just get funding and throw it at the wall with zero results.

More funding than ever why are they going backwards? All the new funding is security? Oooook.  

These inner city schools get more funding than ever before.  We spend more on social programs.  Yet our kid's results are going down and we have more mental illness now than we did years ago.

But lets all pretend that we need more funding for this crap.  Throw money at these issues and not only don't see results, we are actually going backwards.   

Hmmmm

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7 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Where does the fraction of funding that rural school get in comparison go?  My school growing up was a dump.  Mid 2000s and basically all of our stuff was still there from the 70s and 80s.  Yet we had good people in the community that gave a shlt so we didn't end up too bad. 

Cities hardly have those people.   They just get funding and throw it at the wall with zero results.

More funding than ever why are they going backwards? All the new funding is security? Oooook.  

These inner city schools get more funding than ever before.  We spend more on social programs.  Yet our kid's results are going down and we have more mental illness now than we did years ago.

But lets all pretend that we need more funding for this crap.  Throw money at these issues and not only don't see results, we are actually going backwards.   

Hmmmm

Focking A -  did all of go to school in Balt too?   That was tongue in cheek, hence the little winky face because you righties can't tell the difference and jump on any tidbit like that, I also never said ALL.  Lighten up a little.  

Did I say a thing about throwing more money at it?   About the most I said was it would be interesting to see where the funding went.  I advocate for effective use of money and government, not more of it.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Urban schools failing at alarming rates.  Totally ran by Dems.  Yet Dems are said to be the ones who care about education.  Hilarious. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

Focking A -  did all of go to school in Philly too?   That was tongue in cheek, hence the little winky face because you righties can't tell the difference and jump on any tidbit like that, I also never said ALL.  Lighten up a little.  

Did I say a thing about throwing more money at it?   About the most I said was it would be interesting to see where the funding went.  I advocate for effective use of money and government, not more of it.  

So you are basically saying nothing.  

Yeah would be interesting to see how these Dem controlled districts use their funding.  We should ask them.

Oooor.....it ain't a funding problem.  

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5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

So you are basically saying nothing.  

Yeah would be interesting to see how these Dem controlled districts use their funding.  We should ask them.

Oooor.....it ain't a funding problem.  

LOL, I said this same thing, dipsh1t.    Yes, we should ask them what they are doing with the funding.  

Sorry, I guess I didn't use enough "IT'S THE DEMS FAULT!!!!" for your partisan virtue signaling brain to understand I am agreeing with you on that point.  

[Voltaire 5,316]

4 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

IMO it often comes with a lack of empathy.    

I said nothing for personal responsibility.  I am all for that.   Notice I said nothing about it being the fault of Rs or Ds, or said a thing about systemic racism.   That's on you.  

Alright, other liberals here reflexively blame the invisible and ethereal "systemic racism" rather than themselves for their own failed policies. You didn't, your transgression was to disregard the solution and tossed it in the garbage. "I can do it" is what Baltimore students need to hear rather than endless excuses that are 60 years old about whitey keeping them down but, fair enough, you didn't make the second point, only the first.

 

[crackattack 520]

They're to busy trying to figure out the definition of a woman. They don't have time for math and English. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

28 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Yes - poor, uneducated parents largely fall behind on providing kids with the foundation to care about their education.   Most are uninvolved for a variety of reasons.   I don't believe asking them nicely will largely change the situation for their children.  

So, you are saying it's a race thing? 

Then pay them.  It's the Leftist way.  When you can't fix something (because you never address the problem), you throw more money at it.  So just do that.  Fix it by paying them.  Oh, wait, that doesn't work either.  That's ok, throw more money at it.  That'll fix it.

It's by and large a race thing.  Not across the whole race, but it's more prevalent among black folks... but it stems from a culture issue and a culture that has listened to Democrats for 70 years.