Fascist attacks on Individuals and Speech

[iam90sbaby 2,604]

15 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

IGNORANCE: CATCH IT!

Lol

[The Real timschochet 6,731]

Fascism is a right wing ideology and 100% of the fascist attacks these days are coming from the right. Every judge involved in the Trump indictments has received numerous death threats. Same for the prosecutors and investigators. Same for the members of the grand juries whose names have been revealed. Those in the last 3 categories who are African-American have been the targets of hate speech as well to go along with the death threats. The goal is to terrify these people into withdrawing their pursuit of Donald Trump. 
 

And this is not new. Mitt Romney wrote in his book that more than one Republican senator voted to acquit Trump during both impeachments due to fear for their families after death threats had been issued. This is what Fascism is all about. 

[RLLD 4,215]

32 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You can squawk all you want about it, but fascists, Nazis, neo-Nazis, skinheads, the KKK, nationalists and all that are on the far right of the political spectrum. You don't get to redefine the term and its place in history just because it's an ugly, unflattering term. You can't relocate purple to the left from right on the light spectrum just because you don't like purple.

Incorrect.  This has been rather well-evaluated and we know that Hitler was actually something else entirely, now if you were to instead assert that he enjoyed support from conservatives then you would be more in line with reality.    Social Stratification and 'Right-Wing Extremism' ,  Seymour M. Lipset, The British Journal of Sociology Vol. 10, No. 4 (Dec., 1959), pp. 346-382 (37 pages)

No, Hitler was not "right" or "conservative", but neither was he really "left". Now if we look at Stalin, he was considered (at least by his contemporaries at the time) to be more right-leaning. example

Socialism is, well, "socialism".  It is a leftist/progressive movement. Socialists today look back and say...."no, that is not real socialism" or "no, that is conservatism"  to try to explain away the consistent failures.  They even look at early Marxism and refer to it as "ugly" Marxism....

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Fascism is a right wing ideology and 100% of the fascist attacks these days are coming from the right. Every judge involved in the Trump indictments has received numerous death threats. Same for the prosecutors and investigators. Same for the members of the grand juries whose names have been revealed. Those in the last 3 categories who are African-American have been the targets of hate speech as well to go along with the death threats. The goal is to terrify these people into withdrawing their pursuit of Donald Trump. 
 

And this is not new. Mitt Romney wrote in his book that more than one Republican senator voted to acquit Trump during both impeachments due to fear for their families after death threats had been issued. This is what Fascism is all about. 

Straight out of the Hitler playbook, and they're even hating on Jews. It's history repeating itself. Don't like the way the election turned out? They attack the Capitol to derail the process. Don't like minority voting power? They redistrict to their advantage. Don't like a peaceful movement to raise awareness of policy brutality? They label all of those in the movement as terrorists. Don't like books containing material with which they disagree? Get rid of the books. All this done as they remain blindly devoted to a clown facing 91 felony indictments. Don't like that? They call it a witch that the left orchestrates.

All of this is fascist behavior, and they will not stop until they get a country that looks like Gilead from "Handmaid's Tale" and get to oppress women, minorities, Jews, the LGBTQ community and anything else their clown leader tells them to, including his critcs.

[Baker Boy 1,698]

31 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Mussolini was a socialist.  Hitler was a socialist.  They morphed socialism with corporate nationalism to create a fascist state....it is the exact same path Democrats are going down.   They are not commies, they are f-ing fascist bastards.  

Nationalsozialismus (National Socialism, later shortened to Nazi)

[jonmx 2,429]

16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Nationalsozialismus (National Socialism, later shortened to Nazi)

Yes, they called themselves 'nationalists' but they had globalist intent.  Just like the authoritarian bastards you support.  You may change the meaning of words, but the actions of Democrats and desire for elitist power controlling all the people of the world is exactly the same as every evil authoritarian dictator.   Whatever name it is you want to attached to them, you are supporting evil authoritarian bastards who want to strip individuals of all their rights.  Own it you bootlicking idiot..

[Fnord 2,257]

Jonmx peacocking his slide into domestic terrorism hard today. He's been shown time and again that his support of Trump runs 180 degrees counter to what he rails against, an overly powerful Chief Executive. 

This

And this cover it nicely. 

But everyone ELSE is a bootlicking fascist browncoat. The entire foundation of MAGA is projection of its own ends onto that of their enemies. Democracy and freedom are the enemies of MAGA.

[TBayXXXVII 2,541]

17 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

IGNORANCE: CATCH IT!

Wow!  The irony is astounding... and to think, some board members think that the Democrats are the "educated" group.

[seafoam1 2,989]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Jonmx peacocking his slide into domestic terrorism hard today. He's been shown time and again that his support of Trump runs 180 degrees counter to what he rails against, an overly powerful Chief Executive. 

This

And this cover it nicely. 

But everyone ELSE is a bootlicking fascist browncoat. The entire foundation of MAGA is projection of its own ends onto that of their enemies. Democracy and freedom are the enemies of MAGA.

biden supporters....liberal cacksuckers destroying cities across the US. And you come up with that load of shlt about Trump and make america great again?

This is some great "democracy and freedom" exhibited by you retarded liberals. 

 

[jonmx 2,429]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Jonmx peacocking his slide into domestic terrorism hard today. He's been shown time and again that his support of Trump runs 180 degrees counter to what he rails against, an overly powerful Chief Executive. 

This

And this cover it nicely. 

But everyone ELSE is a bootlicking fascist browncoat. The entire foundation of MAGA is projection of its own ends onto that of their enemies. Democracy and freedom are the enemies of MAGA.

I never claimed Trump has the answers.  He got the first part correct, those agencies need to be gutted.   Bring in different people will help in the short term, but without transparency and individual accountability it will revert back to being corrupt.  There needs to be fundamental structural changes including a way to police the executive branch and all its employees.  

[zsasz 368]

17 hours ago, jonmx said:

The Fascist establishment has really ramped up their attacks on individuals who dares stands up the their power structure.  

- FBI raids on anti-establishment media Project Veritas with dubious warrants based on a possession of a diary left behind by Hunfer's daughter.  

- Russell Brand being hit with a hit piece with four anonymous women with a couple claims of rape and a couple claims of abusive behavior from over a decade ago.  YouTube deplatformimg Brand based on these unscrunized stories.

- On-going arrests nearly three years later of anyone even remotely involved in January 6th storming of the Capitol, which more and more looks like it was a staged setup by the FBI.

- Justice Deaprtment's letter threatening parents with the FBI of those who dare stand up to school board on issues relating to COVID lockdowns or transgender policies being promoted in schools behind parents backs.

- The most popular TV news host Tucker Carlson axed by FoxNews shortly after playing tapes of January 6th which showed a much different story of what happened than the official establishment story which is based on the worst 5-minutes of tape they could piece together.

- James O'Keefe losing his CEO position at the media company he created, Project Veritas, because of some very dubious reason including an odd story of stealing an employees sandwich and renting black SUVs when teavelling for work.  

- The Democratic party rigging the primary process to make it impossible for RFK jr. to compete including stripping him off the ballot in some states, making him pay for the cost of primaries and altering other rules making it easier for insiders to control the votes.

- Trump being maliciously prosecuted for minor violations which are being flipped I to major felonies during the mist of an elections.

The shenanigans that went on with social media during the 2020 elections of auppressing anti-Biden stories to influence the election is nothing comparied to what is going on today.  More and more government and corporations are targeting people who expose the corruption of the establishment.  They are getting bolder and bolder with their tactics and the mainstream media instead of being the watchdog is cheering the abuses along.  

This has ceased being America.   We are in the beginnings of becoming a Fascist society where government and huge corporations are protected and individuals are nothing but servants.   Congrats you authoritarian bastards.  You are too f-ing ignorant to acknowledge these abuses because you think the Fascists are on your side.   Sorry, but they don't give a crap about you, they are using you to gain power.  Power which we will never get back.

[Fnord 2,257]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I never claimed Trump has the answers.  He got the first part correct, those agencies need to be gutted.   Bring in different people will help in the short term, but without transparency and individual accountability it will revert back to being corrupt.  There needs to be fundamental structural changes including a way to police the executive branch and all its employees.  

BS. In another thread you claimed Trump was the only option because he was a political outsider, or some such drivel. And you'll still vote for him, fully aware of his intentions, because "libruls bad." This liberal just flat told you I believe in the same things you do. But I'm the enemy.

[Mike Honcho 5,257]

6 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Who the fock thinks that free speech is the greatest threat to America? :

shut the fock up you trolling ass douche.

Don Quixote

[jonmx 2,429]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

BS. In another thread you claimed Trump was the only option because he was a political outsider, or some such drivel. And you'll still vote for him, fully aware of his intentions, because "libruls bad." This liberal just flat told you I believe in the same things you do. But I'm the enemy.

I said said I would vote for Trump or RFK jr because they are both anti-establishment and would at least shake things up and expose corruption.  Unfortunately none if them really understand the roof of the problem.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

28 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I said said I would vote for Trump or RFK jr because they are both anti-establishment and would at least shake things up and expose corruption.  Unfortunately none if them really understand the roof of the problem.  

 

Timothy McVeigh was staunchly anti-establishment.

Just because one is a loud braggart who spews misinformation doesn't make one a good anti-establishment type.

[seafoam1 2,989]

2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

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Just because one is a loud braggart who spews misinformation doesn't make one a good anti-establishment type.

At least you are self aware. 

[jonmx 2,429]

26 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

 

Timothy McVeigh was staunchly anti-establishment.

Just because one is a loud braggart who spews misinformation doesn't make one a good anti-establishment type.

Jeffery Dahmer was a leftist Democrat.  Kind of a bad example, he does makes a good leftist Democrat type.  

[Baker Boy 1,698]

8 hours ago, jonmx said:

Yes, they called themselves 'nationalists' but they had globalist intent.  Just like the authoritarian bastards you support.  You may change the meaning of words, but the actions of Democrats and desire for elitist power controlling all the people of the world is exactly the same as every evil authoritarian dictator.   Whatever name it is you want to attached to them, you are supporting evil authoritarian bastards who want to strip individuals of all their rights.  Own it you bootlicking idiot..

You seem very confused

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

5 hours ago, jonmx said:

Jeffery Dahmer was a leftist Democrat.  Kind of a bad example, he does makes a good leftist Democrat type.  

I said Timothy McVeigh, not Jeffery Dahmer, dipsh!t.

I'm starting to think you can out-moron them all in this forum.

[jonmx 2,429]

10 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I said Timothy McVeigh, not Jeffery Dahmer, dipsh!t.

I'm starting to think you can out-moron them all in this forum.

Duh, you moron.  I was making a counter-example and I was doing it as a joke.   

[jonmx 2,429]

So the media instead of doing a huge investigation into how the COVID viruses was developed, how the US illegally outsourced the research to China, and how it got released out of the lab resulting in millions of dealths....let's spend a year digging into Russell Brand and his sexual exploits some 10 to 15 years ago and put out a documentary.   Then have the British Parliament send letters to all the social media platforms to have him cancelled.   

We live in terrible times where our government and corporations have become the enemy of the people.  

[Dizkneelande 1,096]

Tell us again who the fascists are -

47% of Dems say free speech should be legal 'only under certain circumstances.

34% of Dems say Americans 'have too much freedom'

75% of Dems say government has a responsibility to censor 'hateful' social media posts

Only 31% strongly agree with the statement, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/real_clear_opinion_research/poll_is_censorship_a_partisan_issue_149790.html

[Hardcore troubadour 15,368]

On 9/21/2023 at 9:08 PM, jonmx said:

So the media instead of doing a huge investigation into how the COVID viruses was developed, how the US illegally outsourced the research to China, and how it got released out of the lab resulting in millions of dealths....let's spend a year digging into Russell Brand and his sexual exploits some 10 to 15 years ago and put out a documentary.   Then have the British Parliament send letters to all the social media platforms to have him cancelled.   

We live in terrible times where our government and corporations have become the enemy of the people.  

Well, it’s not  hard to explain really. When every other commercial you see is a paid for by a pharmaceutical company, media isn’t going to bite the hand that feeds them. We like to complain about bias in the media politically, but this is the real bias. And it’s dangerous. Mainstream journalism is dead. 

[RLLD 4,215]

41 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Tell us again who the fascists are -

47% of Dems say free speech should be legal 'only under certain circumstances.

34% of Dems say Americans 'have too much freedom'

75% of Dems say government has a responsibility to censor 'hateful' social media posts

Only 31% strongly agree with the statement, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/real_clear_opinion_research/poll_is_censorship_a_partisan_issue_149790.html

But there is no one around, save for a few media outlets, who will call out the lies..... the majority od media is now so tightly aligned to liberal government policies and players they will not acknowledge the truth, just regurgitate the lie.

[jonmx 2,429]

30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

But there is no one around, save for a few media outlets, who will call out the lies..... the majority od media is now so tightly aligned to liberal government policies and players they will not acknowledge the truth, just regurgitate the lie.

I wish they were liberal policies.   They are authoritarian leftist.  Liberalism died in the 70's.   The modern left hates liberal ideas like free speech and privacy.

[RLLD 4,215]

Chilling Threats to Trump's 'Targets' Revealed in Court Filing

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A"pattern" of threats made to the "targets" of former President Donald Trump has been outlined in a federal court filing asking for a gag order against the ex-president.

 

[Fnord 2,257]

5 hours ago, RLLD said:

Chilling Threats to Trump's 'Targets' Revealed in Court Filing

 

I'm assuming that you believe this is an example of Trump's free speech being stifled?

[squistion 2,180]

On 9/24/2023 at 7:32 AM, jonmx said:

I wish they were liberal policies.   They are authoritarian leftist.  Liberalism died in the 70's.   The modern left hates liberal ideas like free speech and privacy.

Not if you are on the same planet I'm living on. 

[RLLD 4,215]

19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm assuming that you believe this is an example of Trump's free speech being stifled?

Nah, I don't much care about that. I get why they want him quiet.....its hurts his ability to run for office.  Is it wrong? Sure....but whatever.

What bothers me more is the pattern part, and going after the political right using the mechanism of the DOJ.    That is out of hand.  Right now you probably see it as a net "good", but later....if the Republicans can clean out the DOJ of the partisans....it could become true that the script flips, and they start doing this to Democrat candidates......and if that happens, you will be rightly angry, and I will be right there with you....because it is wrong regardless of who is doing, to whom it is being done....or why....

[Herbivore 1,128]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Nah, I don't much care about that. I get why they want him quiet.....its hurts his ability to run for office.  Is it wrong? Sure....but whatever.

What bothers me more is the pattern part, and going after the political right using the mechanism of the DOJ.    That is out of hand.  Right now you probably see it as a net "good", but later....if the Republicans can clean out the DOJ of the partisans....it could become true that the script flips, and they start doing this to Democrat candidates......and if that happens, you will be rightly angry, and I will be right there with you....because it is wrong regardless of who is doing, to whom it is being done....or why....

they have done worse, by impeaching Clinton over a bj. Trump can talk about his campaign all he wants. He shouldn't be attacking judges and staff, and cause death threats to those people. "They just want him quiet"..my ass. 

[seafoam1 2,989]

16 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

they have done worse, by impeaching Clinton over a bj. Trump can talk about his campaign all he wants. He shouldn't be attacking judges and staff, and cause death threats to those people. "They just want him quiet"..my ass. 

Look how conveniently the liberals forget that Clinton lied under oath. 

Another liberal troll strikes again. 

[shadrap 228]

39 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

they have done worse, by impeaching Clinton over a bj. Trump can talk about his campaign all he wants. He shouldn't be attacking judges and staff, and cause death threats to those people. "They just want him quiet"..my ass. 

if he admits the BJ he doesn't get impeached.  he wasn't impeached for what he received.

[Herbivore 1,128]

16 minutes ago, shadrap said:

if he admits the BJ he doesn't get impeached.  he wasn't impeached for what he received.

go have your childish discussion with seaturd

[shadrap 228]

39 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

go have your childish discussion with seaturd

what I typed is the facts & not a discussion.  I can't help it if you don't like the truth.

[Fnord 2,257]

3 hours ago, RLLD said:

Nah, I don't much care about that. I get why they want him quiet.....its hurts his ability to run for office.  Is it wrong? Sure....but whatever.

What bothers me more is the pattern part, and going after the political right using the mechanism of the DOJ.    That is out of hand.  Right now you probably see it as a net "good", but later....if the Republicans can clean out the DOJ of the partisans....it could become true that the script flips, and they start doing this to Democrat candidates......and if that happens, you will be rightly angry, and I will be right there with you....because it is wrong regardless of who is doing, to whom it is being done....or why....

I'm really not upset that they're opening an impeachment inquiry into Biden, although I think it's nothing more than political theater.  If he's done what he's accused of he should be removed.

You and I will not agree on the validity of the Trump impeachments; that's been established. But to think the DOJ is acting strictly in a political capacity WRT Trump’s various legal entanglements is farcical. And there is ZERO chance that your hyperpartisan compadres in the GC wouldn't be losing their collective minds if a Democratic POTUS had done half the shlt Trump has, and continues to do. And I fully expect the whole situation to spiral uncontrollably if we are stupid enough as a nation to re-elect the most divisive person in US history. Trump has not been secretive about his intentions to bring the entire government under his direct control.

[RLLD 4,215]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm really not upset that they're opening an impeachment inquiry into Biden, although I think it's nothing more than political theater.  If he's done what he's accused of he should be removed.

You and I will not agree on the validity of the Trump impeachments; that's been established. But to think the DOJ is acting strictly in a political capacity WRT Trump’s various legal entanglements is farcical. And there is ZERO chance that your hyperpartisan compadres in the GC wouldn't be losing their collective minds if a Democratic POTUS had done half the shlt Trump has, and continues to do. And I fully expect the whole situation to spiral uncontrollably if we are stupid enough as a nation to re-elect the most divisive person in US history. Trump has not been secretive about his intentions to bring the entire government under his direct control.

I think we agree on plenty, time will tell (I hope) whether one of us is on the right track.

[RLLD 4,215]

2 hours ago, Herbivore said:

they have done worse, by impeaching Clinton over a bj. Trump can talk about his campaign all he wants. He shouldn't be attacking judges and staff, and cause death threats to those people. "They just want him quiet"..my ass. 

100% and I completely disagreed with that Clinton nonsense....what a load of crap that was.

They want him quieted to impede his ability to sway voters.  All of this is pointedly a scheme to prevent him from being elected.

[Fnord 2,257]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think we agree on plenty, time will tell (I hope) whether one of us is on the right track.

Everyone here agrees on a shlt ton of things, we just don't talk about what we agree on because it's more edifying to argue. Ultimately,  I think we're all fuked, regardless of political leanings.

[shadrap 228]

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

go have your childish discussion with seaturd

childish is saying someone is childish when they speak the truth.  it's history now.  feel free to look it up under "history".

[Herbivore 1,128]

3 hours ago, RLLD said:

100% and I completely disagreed with that Clinton nonsense....what a load of crap that was.

They want him quieted to impede his ability to sway voters.  All of this is pointedly a scheme to prevent him from being elected.

he has a stage, and he is using it. he is not quieted on the election. getting people death threats is not swaying voters. while some people have some kind of vendetta, I don't see a scheme.