5-Points 3,387 Posted September 27, 2023 7 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Well historically the definition of racism was the belief that one race is superior to another, and has grown to include minority or oppressed status. What you're describing is discrimination, and affirmative action has not been considered racist (except by whites) and only recently been ruled as discrimination. Calling this racist is just a reaction by white people sick of hearing black people talk about racism and wanting to turn the tables. In a workplace setting, preferential or discriminatory treatment, based on race, is racism and has been declared illegal (unless it's detrimental to whites). One can not be racist against gheys or trannies. That's ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, 5-Points said: In a workplace setting, preferential or discriminatory treatment, based on race, is racism and has been declared illegal (unless it's detrimental to whites). One can not be racist against gheys or trannies. That's ridiculous. You're confusing racism with discrimination and general bigotry. It's the same problem lots of people have, accusing everything as being racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted September 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You're confusing racism with discrimination and general bigotry. It's the same problem lots of people have, accusing everything as being racist. Oh, GTFO you dumb shiat. You're the first m'fer in here screaming racism whenever whites outnumber blacks by ONE person in some group. Now suddenly you want to slow down and say it's not always racism when the races are reversed? You're an absolutely TERRIBLE person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted September 27, 2023 White People with low self esteem like to say things like “white guys complaining”. It makes them feel better about themselves and forget their inadequacies. But it ‘s only temporary. They know deep down that they wouldn’t give up anything of importance for those they simp for. That’s for the other guy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You're confusing racism with discrimination and general bigotry. It's the same problem lots of people have, accusing everything as being racist. Discrimination based on race is racism, is it not? If I don't hire a guy because he's fat and I think fat people are lazy, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a woman because I don't think women should be in the workplace, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a guy because he's black and I don't want black employees, that is both discrimination and racism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted September 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Discrimination based on race is racism, is it not? If I don't hire a guy because he's fat and I think fat people are lazy, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a woman because I don't think women should be in the workplace, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a guy because he's black and I don't want black employees, that is both discrimination and racism. Check and Mate. GutterPedo, you ignorant slut. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: White People with low self esteem like to say things like “white guys complaining”. It makes them feel better about themselves and forget their inadequacies. But it ‘s only temporary. They know deep down that they wouldn’t give up anything of importance for those they simp for. That’s for the other guy. Don’t forget “toxic masculinity” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Discrimination based on race is racism, is it not? If I don't hire a guy because he's fat and I think fat people are lazy, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a woman because I don't think women should be in the workplace, that is discrimination but it isn't racism. If I don't hire a guy because he's black and I don't want black employees, that is both discrimination and racism. Yes, you finally get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Don’t forget “toxic masculinity” Yeah I know right? Treating women with respect is such bullsh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted September 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Don’t forget “toxic masculinity” Oh yeah. Anyone that uses that phrase got lots of wedgies and spent a lot of time alone playing video games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted September 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Yeah I know right? Treating women with respect is such bullsh1t. No. But a grown ass man running round proclaiming "toxic masculinity" is ghey as fok. 4'5" tall wearing a dress kind of ghey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,559 Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Kilroy provided one example. If we were to believe him, it's still one example. Is there a systemic issue in corp America where HR departments are told not to hire white people across the board? I would be shocked if that's true and would need to hear from more than just Kilroy. It still would not constitute oppression, since we're simply talking about jobs, and whites still hold the majority of jobs, and the unemployment rate of whites is lower than other minorities. So it's a real stretch to say that some selective hiring is causing systemic oppression of whites. 10 hours ago, nobody said: You might not even realize it if you're part of a corporate entity. I have a very close friend of the family that was head of HR for a very large hotel chain, and her direction was to "hire anyone but white males," so her team weeded out all of those applicants before forwarding to hiring managers. I know you won't believe that, but I can only tell you what she told me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Yes, you finally get it. So, not hiring white people, because they're white and I dont want white employees, is discrimination and racism. Glad we agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted September 28, 2023 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not racist to hire more black people even if it means that white people are discriminated against. Context is everything. We do not live in a color blind society; we never have, even if that is the ultimate goal. We live rather in a society in which black people have suffered over 400 years of slavery, Jim Crow, and unequal treatment under the law. Even now white privilege is a very real thing and the systemic racism against blacks by our police and justice system continues. Under this context it’s almost impossible for a white person to be subject to racism. If you’re one of the tiny handful of white people who has ever lost out on a job due to diversity hiring practices (and it really is a minuscule number of actual people by percentage) chalk it up to being privileged with whiteness in every other aspect of your life: you don’t have to fear being stopped by police for no justifiable reason, or being watched with suspicion every time you shop, or having to suffer thousands of other indignities on a daily basis. Call it unfair if you want based on your personal situation, and move on to all of your other advantages in this society. But don’t you dare call it racism. Tim, this may be the dumbest thing you have ever written. Wake up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Beaker15 said: Tim, this may be the dumbest thing you have ever written. Wake up. To be fair, he's set the bar pretty high in his short time here. But yeah, this one is a contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted September 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, 5-Points said: To be fair, he's set the bar pretty high in his short time here. But yeah, this one is a contender. Real Tim is the most selfish person I have ever seen post here. He only cares about himself and his self perception. He’s a fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You better believe if the races were swapped GutterPedo would have been in here screaming OMG!!! SYSTEMATIC RACISM!! without holding the brakes like he is now. What a douche. He and his hypocrisy can GTFO. Yes, of course. You see there are those people who see AA’a as lesser because of their skin color…. So they treat them as lesser….that is what people like gutter do 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: So, not hiring white people, because they're white and I dont want white employees, is discrimination and racism. Glad we agree. Except the majority of the employees are white, so the reason that they don't want white employees doesn't make sense, since they are the majority, so that's not the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yes, of course. You see there are those people who see AA’a as lesser because of their skin color…. So they treat them as lesser….that is what people like gutter do Go fock yourself douche bag Pot kettle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Except the majority of the employees are white, so the reason that they don't want white employees doesn't make sense, since they are the majority, so that's not the reason. 13 hours ago, 5-Points said: How many definitions of racist do you need? Preferential or discriminatory treatment, based on skin color, is racist. If you need any other definition than that, you're trying to disguise your own racism. We've already determined that discrimination, based on race, is racism. Why does the reason matter now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 699 Posted September 28, 2023 14 hours ago, GutterBoy said: I guess it depends on your definition of racism. anything based on skin color is racist If that's not how you define racism....you are a pandering douchenozzle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, 5-Points said: We've already determined that discrimination, based on race, is racism. Why does the reason matter now? No, what we determined is that discrimination based on race when you don't want a specific race working for you is racism. If you have 50 black employees and you want to add a white person to the team to diversity, thats not being racism. If you have 50 black employees and you refuse to hire a white, that's racism. Context and intent matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: anything based on skin color is racist If that's not how you define racism....you are a pandering douchenozzle. You sound like a flaming liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: No, what we determined is that discrimination based on race when you don't want a specific race working for you is racism. If you have 50 black employees and you want to add a white person to the team to diversity, thats not being racism. If you have 50 black employees and you refuse to hire a white, that's racism. Context and intent matters. So contextual racism is cool? If you refuse to hire the most qualified candidate, based solely on the race of that candidate, it is racism. Full stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: So contextual racism is cool? If you refuse to hire the most qualified candidate, based solely on the race of that candidate, it is racism. Full stop Anyone who says "full stop" is a douche bag But I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 699 Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: So contextual racism is cool? If you refuse to hire the most qualified candidate, based solely on the race of that candidate, it is racism. Full stop If it's in his defined context it is. He can even twist racism into an acceptable practice.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Anyone who says "full stop" is a douche bag But I agree with you. I didn't want to trigger you by saying "period". I know you don't have those anymore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,387 Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: If it's in his defined context it is. He can even twist racism into an acceptable practice.... Clearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: If it's in his defined context it is. He can even twist racism into an acceptable practice.... Racism is not acceptable. Keep twisting yourself fock face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 699 Posted September 28, 2023 59 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Racism is not acceptable. Keep twisting yourself fock face. I guess it depends on your definition of fock face..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: No, what we determined is that discrimination based on race when you don't want a specific race working for you is racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 28, 2023 9 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Go fock yourself douche bag Pot kettle. What I would expect from somone such as yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted September 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: What I would expect from somone such as yourself Your talk of how this isn't racism and we accuse people of racism too quickly was short lived. Proves yourself a hypocrite as usual. A complete joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Your talk of how this isn't racism and we accuse people of racism too quickly was short lived. Proves yourself a hypocrite as usual. A complete joke. Pretending your depiction of AA's as being lesser and needing the help of white people exposes you for the racist you are, you can deflect all you want. You see them as being unable, incapable and lesser.....it defines modern liberalism and you suckle at that teat. Look, its fine, pretend you are some champion helping the less capable all you want. But I assure you, they are not less capable at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted September 28, 2023 9 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Anyone who says "full stop" is a douche bag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted September 28, 2023 9 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Racism is not acceptable. Keep twisting yourself fock face. And yet here you are in here, arguing for exactly that - racism and being acceptable. All you had to do was twist the definition of what racism was. When you can't stand on your merits, change the definitions I guess. You f****** racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Nomad99 said: I guess it depends on your definition of fock face..... He's going by the "traditional" definition of fock face, which is some meaning that no one ever uses. In the dictionary it's usually the 10th definition down the list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: He's going by the "traditional" definition of fock face, which is some meaning that no one ever uses. In the dictionary it's usually the 10th definition down the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted September 28, 2023 9 hours ago, 5-Points said: So contextual racism is cool? If you refuse to hire the most qualified candidate, based solely on the race of that candidate, it is racism. Full stop Exactly what he's saying. Racism is ok in the name of diversity. Not based on merit, but diversity. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted September 28, 2023 Weird how leftists have such low expectations for African Americans. They seem to think in lockstep that they can’t succeed in school without dumbing down the curriculum, can’t get into college without adjusting the standards, can’t get a job without applying affirmative action, can’t get drivers licenses to vote. It’s the fault of systemic racism which is ironic because the left controls all of these racist systems. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites