The Bidenomics Thread : Please Post Your Examples

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Funny too seeing people cry crocodile tears over child poverty being up when the credit for it being down was the stimulus payments and everything they continually criticize and recognize as a factor in inflation.

 

Mental disconnect for them I'm sure....spinning their targets on a whim

[RLLD 4,143]

12 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- strong stand for you to take for people to vote for perception and not reality. 

I'm sure you will be very level headed about this in the next election regarding many issues. 

Ignoring what is happening seems less like facing reality, not sure.  Moreover, lets not forget that the WH themselves have essentially stopped doing this now since the people living that reality are turning away because of the gaslighting....so.....

But hey, I am with YOU on this. I want this message sent.  I think it should be blasted every day, I am happy to see it parroted constantly. So you and I are effectively in lock step  

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[thegeneral 2,889]

another amazing day.

The Fed announces they will be in position to lower borrowing rates next year perhaps.

Next Prez set up nicely in that regard. 

[League Champion 1,896]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

The Fed announces they will be in position to lower borrowing rates next year perhaps.

"Perhaps"?

And this is cause for celebration?

 

[thegeneral 2,889]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

"Perhaps"?

And this is cause for celebration?

 

Markets seem to think so.

This also indicates they feel confident the “soft landing” was hit. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

 

 

Now lets await the irrelevant and obscure economic measure, being misused, to suggest all of these lived experiences are false....

[edjr 6,578]

 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

$7 billion dollars were used to “build EV chargers” 2 years ago. Wanna know how many EV chargers were built with that money? You guessed it: a big fat ZERO 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[ROCK BOTTOM 58]

I liked it better when we had financial security and mean tweets.

[Mike Honcho 5,093]

On 12/12/2023 at 5:24 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Child poverty way up under Biden. But hey, the Dow. 

Greatest Economy Ever!

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

Greatest Economy Ever!

Yeah. "Great economies" cause massive homelessness. Good on Lucy. 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Prices fell last month for the first time since April 2020. Sales rose slightly for last month which is not what people were predicting.

Additionally there was a story this week that some polling seems to indicate fear of a recession has dropped among the public.

Minimal positive movement for the economy, its health, and perception....but positive nonetheless. (cue 20 posts about "Well what about...", more stuff not responding to the actual facts here, and League Champion posting non sequitur nonsense from his pea brain)

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Grocery prices in Mass. among highest in country this holiday season. Here’s what got more expensive

“Consumer Affairs also published a list of items that have seen noteable hikes in price between October 2022 and October 2023:”

Baby formula: (17.5%)

Candy/gum: (9.7%)

Pet food: (8.5%)

Cookies/Crackers: (+6.6%)

Beverages: (+6.5%)

Seasonings/Sauces: (+5.7%)

Snacks: (+5.6%)

Condiments/Spreads/Dressing: (+5.2%)

Fruit/vegetables: (+4.9%)

Cereal: (+4.8%)

Baby food: (+3.6%)

Bakery: (+3.4%)

Baking: (+3.4%)

Grains/Beans/Pasta: (+1.5%)

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

4 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Grocery prices in Mass. among highest in country this holiday season. Here’s what got more expensive

“Consumer Affairs also published a list of items that have seen noteable hikes in price between October 2022 and October 2023:”

Baby formula: (17.5%)

Candy/gum: (9.7%)

Pet food: (8.5%)

Cookies/Crackers: (+6.6%)

Beverages: (+6.5%)

Seasonings/Sauces: (+5.7%)

Snacks: (+5.6%)

Condiments/Spreads/Dressing: (+5.2%)

Fruit/vegetables: (+4.9%)

Cereal: (+4.8%)

Baby food: (+3.6%)

Bakery: (+3.4%)

Baking: (+3.4%)

Grains/Beans/Pasta: (+1.5%)

October comes directly before December?

Interesting. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,919]

6 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Grocery prices in Mass. among highest in country this holiday season. Here’s what got more expensive

“Consumer Affairs also published a list of items that have seen noteable hikes in price between October 2022 and October 2023:”

Baby formula: (17.5%)

Candy/gum: (9.7%)

Pet food: (8.5%)

Cookies/Crackers: (+6.6%)

Beverages: (+6.5%)

Seasonings/Sauces: (+5.7%)

Snacks: (+5.6%)

Condiments/Spreads/Dressing: (+5.2%)

Fruit/vegetables: (+4.9%)

Cereal: (+4.8%)

Baby food: (+3.6%)

Bakery: (+3.4%)

Baking: (+3.4%)

Grains/Beans/Pasta: (+1.5%)

Nice. Child poverty rates way up under Biden and food for babies is also way up. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just posting this again:

 

Funny too seeing people cry crocodile tears over child poverty being up when the credit for it being down was the stimulus payments and everything they continually criticize and recognize as a factor in inflation.

 

Mental disconnect for them I'm sure....spinning their targets on a whim

[Reality 3,092]

10 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Grocery prices in Mass. among highest in country this holiday season. Here’s what got more expensive

“Consumer Affairs also published a list of items that have seen noteable hikes in price between October 2022 and October 2023:”

Baby formula: (17.5%)

Candy/gum: (9.7%)

Pet food: (8.5%)

Cookies/Crackers: (+6.6%)

Beverages: (+6.5%)

Seasonings/Sauces: (+5.7%)

Snacks: (+5.6%)

Condiments/Spreads/Dressing: (+5.2%)

Fruit/vegetables: (+4.9%)

Cereal: (+4.8%)

Baby food: (+3.6%)

Bakery: (+3.4%)

Baking: (+3.4%)

Grains/Beans/Pasta: (+1.5%)

This is pretty simple, anybody that's been to the grocery store knows prices are way up. People aren't happy about it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-food-prices-democrat-biden/676901/

Grocery prices increased by 11.8 percent in 2022, far ahead of the overall rate of inflation, which was 6.5 percent. And unlike with housing, few ordinary Americans benefit from higher grocery prices. Everyone buys groceries, but unless your last name is Kroger or Walton, you probably don’t sell them.

Or maybe it isn’t much of a puzzle at all. We haven’t seen inflation like this since the 1980s; food prices in particular haven’t risen so fast since the late ’70s. The models, in other words, have been trained on four decades of low inflation. Asking them to accurately predict what happens when prices finally, suddenly jump doesn’t make a lot of sense. “Collectively, there’s still this coming to grips with the idea that we’re never going back to 2019,” Joanne Hsu, the director of consumer surveys at the University of Michigan, told me. “We’re in a new normal now, and we’re still adjusting to what that new normal feels like.” In this unfamiliar post-inflationary territory, people seem to care more about how much things cost than about how much money they have, even if economists insist that those things are symmetrically important.

[Ape Deceased SUV 22]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nice. Child poverty rates way up under Biden and food for babies is also way up. 

This poverty nonsense again. Define poverty. No one has to steal to eat in America. No one is freezing or not being educated. Everyone has a smart phone for gods sake. We had a war on poverty. We won. Less isn’t impoverished. If your basic needs, and then some, are taken care of you are not impoverished. I defy you to go to a low income area with restaurants all over the place and cars double parked and tell me about poverty. It’s lower income , not poverty. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, Ape Deceased SUV said:

This poverty nonsense again. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

6 minutes ago, Reality said:

This is pretty simple, anybody that's been to the grocery store knows prices are way up. People aren't happy about it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-food-prices-democrat-biden/676901/

Grocery prices increased by 11.8 percent in 2022, far ahead of the overall rate of inflation, which was 6.5 percent. And unlike with housing, few ordinary Americans benefit from higher grocery prices. Everyone buys groceries, but unless your last name is Kroger or Walton, you probably don’t sell them.

Or maybe it isn’t much of a puzzle at all. We haven’t seen inflation like this since the 1980s; food prices in particular haven’t risen so fast since the late ’70s. The models, in other words, have been trained on four decades of low inflation. Asking them to accurately predict what happens when prices finally, suddenly jump doesn’t make a lot of sense. “Collectively, there’s still this coming to grips with the idea that we’re never going back to 2019,” Joanne Hsu, the director of consumer surveys at the University of Michigan, told me. “We’re in a new normal now, and we’re still adjusting to what that new normal feels like.” In this unfamiliar post-inflationary territory, people seem to care more about how much things cost than about how much money they have, even if economists insist that those things are symmetrically important.

You guys are simpletons....I said very clearly "Prices fell last month for the first time since April 2020." That means in November of 2023- for the first time since April 2020- the price was lower for groceries overall than the previous month.

The response is "Well here was the prices in October 2023." Or "Anyone who has been to the grocery store sees prices are way up." and then posting a story about grocery prices at the end of 2022- almost a full year ago.

It's like you people have comprehension and logic issues. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

25 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Just posting this again:

 

Funny too seeing people cry crocodile tears over child poverty being up when the credit for it being down was the stimulus payments and everything they continually criticize and recognize as a factor in inflation.

 

Mental disconnect for them I'm sure....spinning their targets on a whim

Trump doubled the child tax credit. So we’ve established that you can’t do basic math and you do not understand grade school level economics yet you teach children? 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Trump doubled the child tax credit. So we’ve established that you can’t do basic math and you do not understand grade school level economics yet you teach children? 

9 million people were out of child poverty because of the stimulus

2017- 18%

2018- 18%

2019- 17%

2020-  no official numbers...looks to be anywhere from as low as 5% up to 12% (again the stimulus monies were a large part of this). But some official words- "Without the American Rescue Plan’s Child Tax Credit expansion (but with the stimulus payments and other relief measures in place), the child poverty rate would have dropped from 9.6 percent in 2020 to 8.1 percent in 2021. With the Child Tax Credit expansion also in place, the rate fell to 5.2 percent." Again- factors people here about.

2021- 17%

2022- 16%

[RLLD 4,143]

59 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

9 million people were out of child poverty because of the stimulus

2017- 18%

2018- 18%

2019- 17%

2020-  no official numbers...looks to be anywhere from as low as 5% up to 12% (again the stimulus monies were a large part of this). But some official words- "Without the American Rescue Plan’s Child Tax Credit expansion (but with the stimulus payments and other relief measures in place), the child poverty rate would have dropped from 9.6 percent in 2020 to 8.1 percent in 2021. With the Child Tax Credit expansion also in place, the rate fell to 5.2 percent." Again- factors people here about.

2021- 17%

2022- 16%

I hope someone puts this on a billbaord somewhere.  I want this posted on every street cornder....everywhere.....

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Yes- we should blast everywhere that even at our lowest we could only get it to 16%...and when we had it below 10% a bunch of dopes on both sides cried because of free money going out or some other perceived reason so kids could go hungry....

 

Well done America- partisan BS has led to chaos..maybe people here on both sides will see the issues and stop trying to score points by pretending their side is the only righteous one. 

[thegeneral 2,889]

More good news happening with the economy. The Fed looking like all the pain they inflicted has been effective.

Bad news for the haters…they’ll wish it wasn’t working. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,919]

Joe Biden made gas prices rise when he ended the XL pipeline on day one. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,919]

80 pct of households are in a worse financial situation than before Covid. You know, when Trump was president. But the GDP is up slightly! 

[League Champion 1,896]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

More good news happening with the economy. The Fed looking like all the pain they inflicted has been effective.

Bad news for the haters…they’ll wish it wasn’t working. 

 

LET'S CELEBRATE

It's working so well that my Wife and I are helping about 10 families right now who can't afford Christmas or Christmas dinner for their kids. 

How about you stop reading and use your eyeballs. IT'S BAD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW! Hard working families are barely if getting by at all. 

So STOP YOUR "EVERYTHING IS FINE" BS and go help someone!!! 

[The Psychic Observer 495]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Joe Biden made gas prices rise when he ended the XL pipeline on day one. 

False. The Keystone XL crude oil pipeline wasn’t yet operational when it was canceled in 2021, and wasn’t expected to be running until 2023. Rather, experts say gas prices are high due to other factors such as the global spike in the cost of crude oil and increased demand after pandemic lockdowns ended.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,919]

8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

False. The Keystone XL crude oil pipeline wasn’t yet operational when it was canceled in 2021, and wasn’t expected to be running until 2023. Rather, experts say gas prices are high due to other factors such as the global spike in the cost of crude oil and increased demand after pandemic lockdowns ended.

Wow. So stupid. Do you know a guy named Gutterboy? 

[thegeneral 2,889]

53 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

LET'S CELEBRATE

It's working so well that my Wife and I are helping about 10 families right now who can't afford Christmas or Christmas dinner for their kids. 

How about you stop reading and use your eyeballs. IT'S BAD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW! Hard working families are barely if getting by at all. 

So STOP YOUR "EVERYTHING IS FINE" BS and go help someone!!! 

Good for you. 

[thegeneral 2,889]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

LET'S CELEBRATE

It's working so well that my Wife and I are helping about 10 families right now who can't afford Christmas or Christmas dinner for their kids. 

How about you stop reading and use your eyeballs. IT'S BAD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW! Hard working families are barely if getting by at all. 

So STOP YOUR "EVERYTHING IS FINE" BS and go help someone!!! 

Here is some good news for you to read:

LINK

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

LET'S CELEBRATE

It's working so well that my Wife and I are helping about 10 families right now who can't afford Christmas or Christmas dinner for their kids. 

How about you stop reading and use your eyeballs. IT'S BAD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW! Hard working families are barely if getting by at all. 

So STOP YOUR "EVERYTHING IS FINE" BS and go help someone!!! 

You are looking at this incorrectly.  Look at how drstically the polling has swung since they started this gaslighting nonsense.... in fact, it got so bad they stopped talking about Bidenomics entirely.

No sir, we WANT this message trotted out far and wide, every voter needs to have this messaging repeated, prefferably hourly....

[League Champion 1,896]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

You are looking at this incorrectly.  Look at how drstically the polling has swung since they started this gaslighting nonsense.... in fact, it got so bad they stopped talking about Bidenomics entirely.

No sir, we WANT this message trotted out far and wide, every voter needs to have this messaging repeated, prefferably hourly....

Gasoline gets under $3 a gallon and the liberals want a friggin metal and a parade. 

Ain't that some typical Liberal shizz? Meanwhile you buy 4 things at the grocery store and you need a second mortgage to pay for it. 

WIN!!!

[League Champion 1,896]

On 12/13/2023 at 3:35 PM, thegeneral said:

Prez set up nicely in that regard

You mean like Biden was??