Speaker of the House discussion

[The Real timschochet 6,407]

22 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

There was a time and a place for that.  Not now.  Not in the middle of a war, when Jews are literally fighting for their survival.  “You are either with us, or with the terrorists.”

I strongly reject this point of view. I would refer you to our own history to see how much sorrow this type of argument has caused. 

[The Real timschochet 6,407]

Also let’s be clear: the Israelis are NOT fighting for their survival. Hamas caused a lot of terror and managed to kill several thousand Israelis. But Hamas cannot destroy Israel or even come close. They don’t have the means. 

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

It sounds cooler

It is pretty sweet.  I may have to cahnge my screen name to E.G. the Hun.

[jerryskids 6,558]

3 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Reminder with the same majority the clueless Rs have now, dems passed the Inflation Reduction Act, American Rescue Plan, Infrastructure Package, gun safety laws, PACT Act, CHIPS Act, and reauthorized VAWA.

How many bills has Gym Jordan authored that were passed in the last 10+ years of his "service"?

They also managed to bring the inflation Trump caused with his reckless spending, that added $8T to the debt in just four years, under control.

Now the dems need to bring spending down or they're at risk of approaching how much Trump added to the debt, albeit with much higher interest due to massive rate increases needed to bring down Trump inflation.

Who in their right mind would vote for a republican at the national level again?

Bunch of clowns. 

Well, if there was any doubt that you are Wade Garrett and all his simpleton other aliases, it is gone with this post.  Only they (and now you) are so stupid to continue this debt idiocy when I have repeatedly shown how Trump had his final year (CoVID emergency) of increased spending/debt, whereas Biden continues and builds off of it despite the non-existence of such an emergency.

You will probably respond, like you historically do, with a Spinal Tap "But this one goes to 11" statement about how Trump raised the debt, not capable of understanding what I'm saying.  

[shadrap 220]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, if there was any doubt that you are Wade Garrett and all his simpleton other aliases, it is gone with this post.  Only they (and now you) are so stupid to continue this debt idiocy when I have repeatedly shown how Trump had his final year (CoVID emergency) of increased spending/debt, whereas Biden continues and builds off of it despite the non-existence of such an emergency.

You will probably respond, like you historically do, with a Spinal Tap "But this one goes to 11" statement about how Trump raised the debt, not capable of understanding what I'm saying.  

doesn't matter to him what happened or what the statistics show.   Dem good-Republican real bad.  can't engage with someone that entrenched, unhinged & stupid.  Wade fits that to a tee.

he argues like a 14 year old & I'm starting to think that is his age.  his utter rage at anything Trump or republican has him over the edge.  way too far gone for any discussion...

[thegeneral 2,892]

Trump is against the latest guy because he said the election was legit.

Probably will ruin his chances.

Neat party, GOP.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

I’m very proud of the republicans. Shows that they don’t tow the party line like the libtards. The normal people in the democrat wing of the house, what’s left of them anyway, are spineless cowards that would never Buck the system. That’s why we have open borders and poo in the streets of our cities. 

[jerryskids 6,558]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m very proud of the republicans. Shows that they don’t tow the party line like the libtards. The normal people in the democrat wing of the house, what’s left of them anyway, are spineless cowards that would never Buck the system. That’s why we have open borders and poo in the streets of our cities. 

Why are you proud?  What end of this clown show is a win?  Who is the uber awesome speaker that makes it worthwhile for Republicans to look like incompetent buffoons to independents?

[Bill E. 703]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Also let’s be clear: the Israelis are NOT fighting for their survival. Hamas caused a lot of terror and managed to kill several thousand Israelis. But Hamas cannot destroy Israel or even come close. They don’t have the means.

Not yet but Hamas may be the first and weakest part of a full scale attack.  They may be softening them up for Hezbollah and Iran.  We will see.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why are you proud?  What end of this clown show is a win?  Who is the uber awesome speaker that makes it worthwhile for Republicans to look like incompetent buffoons to independents?

It will all work out in the end. I’ve been around long enough to know this is a blip on the radar. I prefer dissent to obedience when obedience has shown itself to be the wrong path.  McCarthy should have kept his word. What he agreed to was not anything radical and he still wouldn’t do it.  So get mad at him. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

11 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Well, if there was any doubt that you are Wade Garrett and all his simpleton other aliases, it is gone with this post.  Only they (and now you) are so stupid to continue this debt idiocy when I have repeatedly shown how Trump had his final year (CoVID emergency) of increased spending/debt, whereas Biden continues and builds off of it despite the non-existence of such an emergency.

You will probably respond, like you historically do, with a Spinal Tap "But this one goes to 11" statement about how Trump raised the debt, not capable of understanding what I'm saying.  

Not sure why you're babbling about some Wade guy.  Here are the facts:  Trump added $8T to the debt in four years.  Supply chains were crushed under Trump.  Trump bullied the Fed to keep interest rates low.  These all directly led to the inflation the Bidden and the Fed beat back.

Inflation started rising before a dollar of any of Biden's bills had even be spent.  Only the lowest of the low IQ would be so simply to think that Biden could have caused the US to see historic inflation just a few months after taking office.

It's quite laughable actually.  Kind of like blaming the great recession on Obama since it happened shortly after he took office.

You're smarter than that I assume right friend?

[seafoam1 2,799]

2 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Not sure why you're babbling about some Wade guy.  Here are the facts:  Trump added $8T to the debt in four years.  Supply chains were crushed under Trump.  Trump bullied the Fed to keep interest rates low.  These all directly led to the inflation the Bidden and the Fed beat back.

Inflation started rising before a dollar of any of Biden's bills had even be spent.  Only the lowest of the low IQ would be so simply to think that Biden could have caused the US to see historic inflation just a few months after taking office.

It's quite laughable actually.  Kind of like blaming the great recession on Obama since it happened shortly after he took office.

You're smarter than that I assume right friend?

Sure thing wade. 

Keep up the good whine. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Sure thing wade. 

Keep up the good whine. 

Any chance you can dispute any of the above or nah?

[seafoam1 2,799]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

Any chance you can dispute any of the above or nah?

Keep it up wade. 

[jerryskids 6,558]

9 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Any chance you can dispute any of the above or nah?

I've refuted it in the past, but you lack the intelligence to digest it.  Instead you had the Spinal Tap reaction I predicted.

I'm not wasting the time of finding and posting the data again, it's lost on you anyway.

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I've refuted it in the past, but you lack the intelligence to digest it.  Instead you had the Spinal Tap reaction I predicted.

I'm not wasting the time of finding and posting the data again, it's lost on you anyway.

Let's start with the easy stuff then.  Was the debt increased by $8T under Trump?  Did Trump bully the Fed to keep rates low?  (hint the Fed lowered rates during the "booming" year of 2019).  Were supply chains destroyed during Trump's term?

Assuming you're not delusional and agree to the facts above and you still believe that Biden caused inflation.  Please tell me what actions a president can take to cause inflation to start to skyrocket less then 3 months into their term.  Please educate me.

[HellToupee 1,583]

7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Did Trump bully the Fed to keep rates low?

No criticism of Obama bullying the fed amirite?

[HellToupee 1,583]

8 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Were supply chains destroyed during Trump's term?

I believe Bryce Harper calls this a clown comment 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, HellToupee said:

No criticism of Obama bullying the fed amirite?

Obama bullied the Fed?  Got any links to that?  Cause I can give you plenty of links with Trump talking crap about the Fed raising rates.

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, HellToupee said:

I believe Bryce Harper calls this a clown comment 

Supply chains weren't destroyed in 2020?

[jerryskids 6,558]

13 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Let's start with the easy stuff then.  Was the debt increased by $8T under Trump?  Did Trump bully the Fed to keep rates low?  (hint the Fed lowered rates during the "booming" year of 2019).  Were supply chains destroyed during Trump's term?

Assuming you're not delusional and agree to the facts above and you still believe that Biden caused inflation.  Please tell me what actions a president can take to cause inflation to start to skyrocket less then 3 months into their term.  Please educate me.

Already did multiple times in the past, but you are an inane troll.  Carry on.   

[HellToupee 1,583]

14 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Was the debt increased by $8T under Trump?

You. Since GW Bush this has been pointing north

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Already did multiple times in the past, but you are an inane troll.  Carry on.   

Facts are tough to dispute, I get that.

But just maybe do a little research and use some common sense before you draw conclusions like a guy who's been president for less than 3 months somehow caused massive, worldwide inflation.  Like that's even possible.

I'll help, it's not.  Inflation takes a long time to matriculate it's way through the economy and actually begin to impact prices.  Energy prices are different but rising energy prices won't cause massive inflation by themself.

I'm happy to educate you further friend. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

6 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Supply chains weren't destroyed in 2020?

Zero to do with Trump although you will attempt to educate us

[BeachGuy23 642]

2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

You. Since GW Bush this has been pointing north

Obama added $10T in 8 years.  Trump added $8T in 4 years.  Do these seem like they'd have an equal impact on inflation to you?

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, HellToupee said:

Zero to do with Trump although you will attempt to educate us

Never said Trump caused them.  Simply setting the stage for why we saw inflation skyrocket during the beginning of Biden's term.

Although Trump's horrible handling of covid definitely did not help supply chains.  Top ten worst deaths per capita among modern countries in 2020.

Shameful. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

8 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Never said Trump caused them.  Simply setting the stage for why we saw inflation skyrocket during the beginning of Biden's term.

Although Trump's horrible handling of covid definitely did not help supply chains.  Top ten worst deaths per capita among modern countries in 2020.

Shameful. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

Just keep him in this thread if you can. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Never said Trump caused them.  Simply setting the stage for why we saw inflation skyrocket during the beginning of Biden's term.

Although Trump's horrible handling of covid definitely did not help supply chains.  Top ten worst deaths per capita among modern countries in 2020.

Shameful. 

It was very profitable to die with Covid whether it was the cause of death or not. You know that

[The Real timschochet 6,407]

From what I’m reading one of the main stumbling blocks for any potential Speaker is the election of 2020. Trump’s allies oppose Emmer because he acknowledges that Biden won in 2020, and there are enough of them to kill his chances. Other Republicans have stated that they will ONLY vote for a candidate who acknowledges that Biden won, and there are enough of them to kill any vote. 
 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,407]

The establishment types are going to need the Democrats help to elect a Speaker, that means they’re going to have to compromise. Or they can cave to MAGA. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’m reading one of the main stumbling blocks for any potential Speaker is the election of 2020. Trump’s allies oppose Emmer because he acknowledges that Biden won in 2020, and there are enough of them to kill his chances. Other Republicans have stated that they will ONLY vote for a candidate who acknowledges that Biden won, and there are enough of them to kill any vote. 
 

 

Why are you so fixated on Trump and republicans? Why not focus on those you are going to vote for and talk about all their stellar achievements?

[The Real timschochet 6,407]

7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Why are you so fixated on Trump and republicans? Why not focus on those you are going to vote for and talk about all their stellar achievements?

Lots of reasons, among them that Trump is going to be the GOP nominee next year because you guys are such morons, the party of stupid. Nominate somebody else and I’ll stop talking about him. 
 

Another reason is that I want aid to Israel and Ukraine to go through and for the government not to shut down. And for that we need a speaker. But you morons are preventing it. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lots of reasons, among them that Trump!!! 

Got it. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

19 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Why are you proud?  What end of this clown show is a win?  Who is the uber awesome speaker that makes it worthwhile for Republicans to look like incompetent buffoons to independents?

Uh oh looks like somebody didn’t get the memo.

Trump is behind Butthead, I mean Gaetz, and the pedo-supporter Jim Jordan, so you should be too. Sorry, I don’t make the rules  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

From what I’m reading one of the main stumbling blocks for any potential Speaker is the election of 2020. Trump’s allies oppose Emmer because he acknowledges that Biden won in 2020, and there are enough of them to kill his chances. Other Republicans have stated that they will ONLY vote for a candidate who acknowledges that Biden won, and there are enough of them to kill any vote. 
 

 

Imagine refusing to vote for someone for Speaker of the United States House of Representatives because they acknowledge that the results of the last presidential election were what they were.

Republicans are so far gone it’s insane 

[jonmx 2,424]

28 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Imagine refusing to vote for someone for Speaker of the United States House of Representatives because they acknowledge that the results of the last presidential election were what they were.

Republicans are so far gone it’s insane 

What is insane is there is not one Democrat who gives a fuk about freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution.....Worship censorship, deep desire to control guns, hate religious freedom, loves state controlled media, loves controlling access to information, loves using FBI to attack political opponents, loves getting us entangled in useless wars, loves treating races unequally, loves brainwashing children....I hate authoritarian bastards to the core.  

[thegeneral 2,892]

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m very proud of the republicans. Shows that they don’t tow the party line like the libtards. The normal people in the democrat wing of the house, what’s left of them anyway, are spineless cowards that would never Buck the system. That’s why we have open borders and poo in the streets of our cities. 

These idiots have to do something at some point, right? They have to agree on something, they have  to govern. They can’t just pitch fits and do interviews on crazy TV networks and fundraise for their next election. Full on clown show. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

35 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These idiots have to do something at some point, right? They have to agree on something, they have  to govern. They can’t just pitch fits and do interviews on crazy TV networks and fundraise for their next election. Full on clown show. 

We’ll Get there. Not worried. There are much more pressing maters at hand that the executive could address with the swipe of a pen but won’t. That’s the real issue.  Congress never approved of the chaos on the border, yet it’s happening. 

[thegeneral 2,892]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We’ll Get there. Not worried. There are much more pressing maters at hand that the executive could address with the swipe of a pen but won’t. That’s the real issue.  Congress never approved of the chaos on the border, yet it’s happening. 

Don’t hurt your back carrying the water for the collection of dipshets

Must defend the red tire!